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Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by Areaboy2(m): 1:00pm On Jun 17, 2012
Uyi Iredia:

There is certainly a God. BTW, the Bible is not contradictory but complementary (like the interesting mini-stories of Taoist scripture). People sucha s yourself tend to overlook the simple fact that the Bible is an anthology of qorks that span many epochs, thousand of years. It is always wise to ponder upon the historical context of whatever part of the Bible you are reading. I have undertaken to study most casws of confliction in the Biblr and upon scrutiny I find that they don't hold up. God's existence is simple and equally espoused by other religions eg Zoroastrainism, Hinduism & Islam which also evolved from paganistic schools. All these religions from the wonders of Nature and the obviously unique place man occupies in it. I remain supremely confident that God is considering two things in humanity. One: )our acknowledgement of Him as the Creator of Nature which you are priviliged to partake of as a living person. Two: Your character towards your fellow man and yourself (IOW your morality). Realize that atheists stubbornly refuse to see these simple facts simply because of the presence of evil. But the fact remains
That evil arises feom man's inhumanity to man: A thing everyone is guilty of to a greater or lesser extent.

quit bashing the theory of evolution mate! is that all you got against atheists? So if that theory was flawless you'll be an atheist?? undecided


@purist LOL I did.. fck i'm still sleepy!!!
Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by Purist(m): 1:01pm On Jun 17, 2012
^^^ lol. I think you just quoted the wrong person. cheesy

EDIT: It's fine now. grin

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Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by means(m): 1:24pm On Jun 17, 2012
Atheists are intelligent people. To me, they'll make better hubby than most of these bunch of hypocrites who hide under religion to deceive people. Am a xtian, but I must admit that the atheist have a logicallly consistent and superior argument than some xtain folks who are only noseled by their pastors.

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Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by alpontif(m): 2:26pm On Jun 17, 2012
sauer:
This is the dostoyevskyian argument, which in itself is not bad. You are however missing the possibility of man's inclination to further use this "god" to perpetrate even more evil acts. And how many examples exist in history and in today's world? Is it the crusades? or suicide bombings? or the Spanish inquisition? I bet if man lived without "god", we may have indeed less evil than if he lived with "god". Well, at least we have not tried that. But records (the closest we have) from the least religious countries (Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Iceland, etc) show that less religion could mean more happiness in life.

It is simple: Religion causes problems, Your belief in the EXISTENCE of a God doesn't. The most important thing is to believe God exists, and strive to live a morally and ethically balanced life. Religion complicates things with the rituals and all,I choose what I believe in religious doctrine, if it doesn't make sense, I don't do it..(tithes and the rest). It makes sense to believe a God exists, on a logical level I accept that, on a spiritual level I do. It makes sense to believe in Jesus's Christ message,on a moralistic level I accept his teachings, on a spiritual level I believe in the power in his name through faith, logicians don't do faith, I am deliberately illogical in this sense. I don't bother myself with other religious crap. Getting to heaven or hell is not by believing in God alone, but by living a morally just life. So many Christians will end up in hell, where many Muslims, pagans and animists are making heaven, it is not about the religion , it is about the life you are living.
Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by Nobody: 3:29pm On Jun 17, 2012
means: Atheists are intelligent people. To me, they'll make better hubby than most of these bunch of hypocrites who hide under religion to deceive people. Am a xtian, but I must admit that the atheist have a logicallly consistent and superior argument than some xtain folks who are only noseled by their pastors.
grin grin grin
You fcking brown-noser.
Fine, a number of atheists are intelligent and logical and whatever, but it's certainly not all of them. Most atheists are actually of average (and below average) intelligence, I should know cos I've been in arguments with them before.
Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by queensmith: 3:39pm On Jun 17, 2012
I think it's silly to tie intelligence with religious beliefs. I've met many brilliant christians muslims, pagans, atheists. It doesn't make you any more or any less intelligence when you are born to a religion (or lack of one).
Those that think they are intelligent simply because they turned to atheism are still under the same spell, their quest for some sort of hierarchy, the same way we mirror reality into religion.
It's not as if the atheists here are answering any questions, they are just asking them. Any old fool can ask questions, how many people can provide answers.
Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by ayobase(m): 4:07pm On Jun 17, 2012
Area_boy:

quit bashing the theory of evolution mate! is that all you got against atheists? So if that theory was flawless you'll be an atheist?? undecided


@purist LOL I did.. fck i'm still sleepy!!!

Is that how to defend?
Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by Nobody: 4:09pm On Jun 17, 2012
Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by ayobase(m): 4:12pm On Jun 17, 2012
alpontif:

It is simple: Religion causes problems, Your belief in the EXISTENCE of a God doesn't. The most important thing is to believe God exists, and strive to live a morally and ethically balanced life. Religion complicates things with the rituals and all,I choose what I believe in religious doctrine, if it doesn't make sense, I don't do it..(tithes and the rest). It makes sense to believe a God exists, on a logical level I accept that, on a spiritual level I do. It makes sense to believe in Jesus's Christ message,on a moralistic level I accept his teachings, on a spiritual level I believe in the power in his name through faith, logicians don't do faith, I am deliberately illogical in this sense. I don't bother myself with other religious crap. Getting to heaven or hell is not by believing in God alone, but by living a morally just life. So many Christians will end up in hell, where many Muslims, pagans and animists are making heaven, it is not about the religion , it is about the life you are living.


Modified!
Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by ayobase(m): 4:15pm On Jun 17, 2012
As far as Im concerned, marrying an atheist is synonymous to marrying a fool.
''....and a fool says that there is no God''!
Simple!
Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by ayobase(m): 4:18pm On Jun 17, 2012
MsDarkSkin: no.
Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by ayobase(m): 4:25pm On Jun 17, 2012
michelin89:

Atheists in life are reserved and tolerant. they don't talk about their non belief unless they are questioned. unlike what happens on Nairaland, atheists hardly initiate religious debate because they know the implication of starting something that will never end. if the kids choose religion fine, as long as they don't become obnoxious and hypocrites because that's something atheists don't tolerate in religious people. if you can't respect and follow the doctrine, why choose it?

And whats the end of an atheist if there is gonna be a reply?
Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by 2good(m): 4:35pm On Jun 17, 2012
ayobase: As far as Im concerned, marrying an atheist is synonymous to marrying a fool.
''....and a fool says that there is no God''!
Simple!

You seem to be very intolerant and you are as foolish as the Atheist you call fool. Why not marry your church sisters and just shut up. With all the religion and god you people make noise about, what have Nigeria achieved? You Christian brothers are currently involved in a war with the Muslims in Northern Nigeria and you call neutral people fool. You need to have your head examined.

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Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by harakiri(m): 5:36pm On Jun 17, 2012
ayobase: As far as Im concerned, marrying an atheist is synonymous to marrying a fool.
''....and a fool says that there is no God''!
Simple!

A fool says there is no god and your same idiotic bible condemns you to hell for calling someone else a fool.

Ignoramus!!!
Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by harakiri(m): 5:39pm On Jun 17, 2012
ayobase:

And whats the end of an atheist if there is gonna be a reply?

The end of an atheist is same as yours. We live and die. End of! What else do you know about Christianity apart from what you have been spoon fed with from childhood? NOTHING!!! You are a brainwashed buffoon and nothing more. Can you show on single atom of proof that your biblical god exists? Even a shred? If the slave traders hadn't brainwashed your forefathers with Christianity, would you be here talking?

E-diot!!!
Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by ayobase(m): 8:21pm On Jun 17, 2012
luckgames: What about marring people that go to church that are very evil?
Secretive, liar and cheat
Keep information
I will take Atheist over evil church goers

Keep deceiving yourself by saying that everybody smokes just because u do!
Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by ayobase(m): 8:28pm On Jun 17, 2012
^^whats d point arguing with a fool.
@@singing@@
my guy, ur eyes go sharpen because e be like sey e don.............
Look at d way u were just drooling over a simple question being asked.
Is that a way of defend oneself.....u don fail if na debate!
Relax and talk to me like a .....if only u r mature in d first instance.
Y not terminate schooling or ur profession since the white men brought those also!
They rap dey go...wawa!
Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by ayobase(m): 8:36pm On Jun 17, 2012
harakiri:

The end of an atheist is same as yours. We live and die. End of! What else do you know about Christianity apart from what you have been spoon fed with from childhood? NOTHING!!! You are a brainwashed buffoon and nothing more. Can you show on single atom of proof that your biblical god exists? Even a shred? If the slave traders hadn't brainwashed your forefathers with Christianity, would you be here talking?

E-diot!!!
I live by faith and not by sight....and still, u can still see Him via His wondrous works!
So, u wanna tell me u have not been hearing about this I am that I am, the beginning of the end, the author and finisher of our faith, the lion of the tribe of Judah, Elshadai, King of Kings, erujeje ti n gbe eru mi, arugbo ojo, .........
Then,u need to go switch on ur hearing aid!
DAMN.....u r missing so much!
Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by ayobase(m): 8:43pm On Jun 17, 2012
harakiri:

A fool says there is no god and your same idiotic bible condemns you to hell for calling someone else a fool.

Ignoramus!!!

What is the meaning of fool in d first place fool!
I need ur answer, and where is it written in the Holy Bible that u shouldnt rebuke someone?
Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by UyiIredia(m): 8:48pm On Jun 17, 2012
Area_boy:

lol.. you are shallow my friend undecided

what part of being virtuous and beautiful is ascribed to Christians only??

Since the answer is NONE, then one can only conclude what you mean is really "There are lots of Christian ladies in these parts" undecided

And where did I strictly ascribe beauty and virtuosity to Christians only ? I understand there are ugly Christian ladies and loose Christian ladies. You need to read properly & stop twisting what I say.
Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by ayobase(m): 8:54pm On Jun 17, 2012
2good:

You seem to be very intolerant and you are as foolish as the Atheist you call fool. Why not marry your church sisters and just shut up. With all the religion and god you people make noise about, what have Nigeria achieved? You Christian brothers are currently involved in a war with the Muslims in Northern Nigeria and you call neutral people fool. You need to have your head examined.

Hmmmm!
Only a coward talks like that!
Look at u.....u r a disappointment!
What is so tormenting about ''...and a fool will say there is no God''?
Are you an atheist?
U wanna share with me the history of this war and the cause?
Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by ghostofsparta(m): 8:55pm On Jun 17, 2012
fellis:
grin grin grin
You fcking brown-noser.
[B] a number of atheists are intelligent and logical and whatever, but it's certainly not all of them. [M] Most atheists are actually of average (and below average) intelligence, I should know cos I've been in arguments with them before.

You are wrong. Anyone brave enough to call himself/herself an atheist is one who have chosen reason and intellectual logic over dogmatic indoctrination. Most atheists bear several intelligent reason for their renunciation...while a Muslim-turned-Christian might say 'I dislike the killings in the name of Allah'

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Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by ayobase(m): 8:58pm On Jun 17, 2012
Logic Mind:

Yes I would. Infact I married one and opened her eyes to the evils of her religion. Even though she has not yet graduated to blaspheming as a real atheist, she has not stepped into a church for a very long time now.

Please I don't have a grudge but you were coming at it aggresively.

How did u open her eyes?
Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by ayobase(m): 9:02pm On Jun 17, 2012
sauer:
Yes, I have met female atheists. I am particularly struck by their sane reasoning, their desire to know, their openness and above all, their impressive world view. Many women atheists I have met can carry on fantastic conversations on philosophy, music, psychology or other highly specialised fields like anthropology. To find such women is rather rare, but in the end very pleasing. Quite a number of "very religious" Nigerian girls (and unfortunately guys) are often too contented with church, Nollywood, cinemas or pommes frites to give a hoot about the world.
I do sense that it's the female atheists who long to change their environment, to preach understanding to their neighbours in the light of these difficulties we face globally. For me, there is nothing more impressive that a woman who is confident, independent and absolutely sure she's as good as any man. A lot of women claim this, but we all know it's a ruse. But then, many female atheists I know or have met are very much like this; this contrasts sharply with the behaviour of their servile, christianly counterparts.

So its a ruse if u r not atheist!
U gat me chuckling!
Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by ayobase(m): 9:05pm On Jun 17, 2012
sauer:
Apparently you are missing the fact that your wife appears to be "forcing your kids" into Islam. A better alternative would be for them to decide what's appropriate after achieving a level of independent reasoning.
Kids who join their parents' religious practices in their very early years might as well be forced into doing what they'd never have opted for!

So, the parents should just tell them ''there is no God, so do as u like and not as I do''!
Na wa o!
''A better alternative would be for them to decide what's appropriate after achieving a level of independent reasoning.''.....like what age, without still asking the parents?
Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by 2good(m): 9:11pm On Jun 17, 2012
ayobase:

Hmmmm!
Only a coward talks like that!
Look at u.....u r a disappointment!
What is so tormenting about ''...and a fool will say there is no God''?
Are you an atheist?
U wanna share with me the history of this war and the cause?

My religious orientation is not your business so stop all the hating. Do what you want to do, mind your business and look for something good to do with your life.
I tire for my fellow black people!
Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by ayobase(m): 9:26pm On Jun 17, 2012
sauer:
Of course, that's not what she's saying! grin Nevertheless, that's not totally impossible. It's on record that one book can change someone's life. And I'd argue you probably have no idea what good Karl Marx and his books have done to this world

So, other books cant do any good to humanity aight?
Ur jumping in to answer this question was suspicious!
Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by ghostofsparta(m): 9:28pm On Jun 17, 2012
ayobase:
I live by faith and not by sight....and still, u can still see Him via His wondrous works!
So, u wanna tell me u have not been hearing about this I am that I am, the beginning of the end, the author and finisher of our faith, the lion of the tribe of Judah, Elshadai, King of Kings, erujeje ti n gbe eru mi, arugbo ojo, .........
Then,u need to go switch on ur hearing aid!
DAMN.....u r missing so much!

Are your ancestors from Judah? You better Stop eating Amala and Iyan again because FYI those foods bears strong oriki associated with certain Yoruba deities. What most of you Nigerian Christians don't realise is that you are all worshipping God of the Jews (Yaweh). You all need to leave Yorubaland that you have destroyed. What has Christianity benefited us since the missionaries shoved it down the throats of our fore-fathers. No electricty, bad roads, corruption and poverty. Let those at the government starts swearing upon Shango, Ayilala and Ogun whether there won't be 500% transparency. One corruption-loving commenter said something about me believing in 'an absolute reality' I don't blame him sha for misconstruing my simple points.

Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by Nobody: 9:28pm On Jun 17, 2012
ghostofsparta:

You are wrong. Anyone brave enough to call himself/herself an atheist is one who have chosen reason and intellectual logic over dogmatic indoctrination. Most atheists bear several intelligent reason for their renunciation...while a Muslim-turned-Christian might say 'I dislike the killings in the name of Allah'

Wait, first of all what was that [M] and [B] you seem to have added to my post?

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fellis:

You fcking brown-noser.
[B] a number of atheists are intelligent and logical and whatever, but it's certainly not all of them. [M] Most atheists are actually of average (and below average) intelligence, I should know cos I've been in arguments with them before.

Secondly;
grin
You said
Anyone brave enough to call himself/herself an atheist is one who have chosen reason and intellectual logic over dogmatic indoctrination

Then you contradicted yourself by saying;
[size=13pt]Most[/size] atheists bear several intelligent reason for their renunciation

See, not all atheists engage in deep critical thinking before deciding to become atheists.
Most atheists are born as atheists, and told by parents that there is no God and after growing up to see no 'logical' proof of any God, decide to stick with atheism.
Some atheists are just rebellious, butt-hurt, cry babies that concluded that God doesn't exist because their prayers were not answered. grin.
Some atheists are simply atheits cos they cannot fathom how a God can exist and still allow all the evil in the world to happen; they decide that their imagination of how a god should be is not what they get in reality so they jump into atheism.

Inshort there are quite a number of reasons why people become atheists and a lot of these reasons have nothing to do with intelligence.

p.s.
I found the first comic very hilarious.
Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by ayobase(m): 9:28pm On Jun 17, 2012
2good:

My religious orientation is not your business so stop all the hating. Do what you want to do, mind your business and look for something good to do with your life.
I tire for my fellow black people!


Why leaving ur shell initially when u know u cant cope with the weather condition out here!
Lo joko jare!
Pointless u!
Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by ayobase(m): 9:34pm On Jun 17, 2012
queensmith:

I have to admit reading the book absolutely blew my mind! Everything in life is based on the human struggle for hierarchy, and the systems in place have only ever served to benefit the same set of people. No matter how you look at it you always end up worshipping 'the white man' one way or another.

Embracing Christianity is one of them, the book gave me the push. Face it, those of us that are christians can't give any justifiable reason for beleiving in God and Christ. We just do. We can't explain it (i can't obtain it! lol). Alot of us have just been conditioned to think praying to some deity is going to solve all our problems. It's complex and interesting no doubt.

And the prayers are being answered.
U wanna expatiate on that logically?
Re: Will You Marry An Atheist? by Nobody: 9:34pm On Jun 17, 2012
ghostofsparta:

Are your ancestors from Judah? You better Stop eating Amala and Iyan again because FYI those foods bears strong oriki associated with certain Yoruba deities. What most of you Nigerian Christians don't realise is that you are all worshipping God of the Jews (Yaweh). You all need to leave Yorubaland that you have destroyed. What has Christianity benefited us since the missionaries shoved it down the throats of our fore-fathers. No electricty, bad roads, corruption and poverty. Let those at the government starts swearing upon Shango, Ayilala and Ogun whether there won't be 500% transparency. One corruption-loving commenter says 'I believe in absolute reality' I don't blame him sha.

Mr. ghostofsparta, why are you taking Qur'anic verses out of context to prove your point?
That verse, 'Fight the unbelievers . . . . ' in your second picture was directed to Muslims that were going to engage in a war back then, it is not an instruction for all Muslims to keep following till today. You craftily cherry-picked the verse and didn't bother adding surrounding verses that explain it better.
Take another verse of the Qur'an out of context again and I'll bring a barrage of violent verses from your bible for you, you deceitful crook. wink tongue cool

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