frosbel:

Satan never rests, so we should be on guard and pray that we do not also fall victim to his devices.

frosbel: In the book of Job we’re told by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit that on a certain day the sons of God came to present themselves before Him:

Job 1:6-7 “NOW THERE WAS A DAY WHEN THE SONS OF GOD CAME TO PRESENT THEMSELVES BEFORE THE LORD, AND SATAN CAME ALSO AMONG THEM. 7AND THE LORD SAID UNTO SATAN, WHENCE COMEST THOU? THEN SATAN ANSWERED THE LORD, AND SAID, FROM GOING TO AND FRO IN THE EARTH, AND FROM WALKING UP AND DOWN IN IT.”

As if to emphasize this fact, this record is repeated in Job 2:1-2. Satan was spending his time wandering the earth, making trouble for mankind. Under God’s covenant with mankind today the Holy Spirit through the pen of the Apostle Peter provides us with this warning:

I Peter 5:8 “8BE SOBER, BE VIGILANT; BECAUSE YOUR ADVERSARY THE DEVIL, AS A ROARING LION, WALKETH ABOUT, SEEKING WHOM HE MAY DEVOUR:”

We can be assured that the influence of the devil is alive and well in this world today. In fact we can be absolutely certain of the fact that Satan never rests.

spicy v: @ OP: I am wondering how your subject correlates with the message. How can satan be compared to the Almighty. In any way how much more in power? That book θf job you quoted clearly shows his inferiority to God because he couldn't do beyond what God instructed him to do to job. Please read the scriptures!

Also God is omnipresent. Meaning He is everywhere at all times, satan is not, he only goes to and fro or up and down. Meaning when he is at to, he is not at fro and when he is up, he is absent from down.

Its really funny to me that there could ever be any form θf comparison θf might between God and His creation!

spicy v: @ OP: I am wondering how your subject correlates with the message. How can satan be compared to the Almighty. In any way how much more in power? That book θf job you quoted clearly shows his inferiority to God because he couldn't do beyond what God instructed him to do to job. Please read the scriptures!

Also God is omnipresent. Meaning He is everywhere at all times, satan is not, he only goes to and fro or up and down. Meaning when he is at to, he is not at fro and when he is up, he is absent from down.

Its really funny to me that there could ever be any form θf comparison θf might between God and His creation!

Delafruita:
if satan isnt powerful,why then hasnt he been subdued?mwhy does yahweh,despite all his professed love for man,leave man at the mercy of satan even allowing him roam the earth seeking whom to devour?

MacDaddy01:


I Peter 5:8 “8BE SOBER, BE VIGILANT; BECAUSE YOUR ADVERSARY THE DEVIL, AS A ROARING LION, WALKETH ABOUT, SEEKING WHOM HE MAY DEVOUR:”


You better forget God, Satan is epic according to the bible. Roaring lion....boss

MacDaddy01:

Thank you!

spicy v:

See, the challenge you have is that you do not understand the bible!or should I say use θf english! Let me help you. Now the scripture above says he roams about AS A LION. Meaning he is not a lion, but just goes about acting like a lion. Hahaha counterfeit not the real deal. Christ in whom all believers are joint heirs with is the true lion θf the tribe θf judah! So please do not get confused!

spicy v:

I never suggested that satan wasn't powerful ( your inability to understand grammar comes into play once again) I only stated and I state again, " satan's might is in no measure comparable to God's".

Scriptural backing: " I have given you authority over all θf the powers θf the enemy, nothing shall by any means harm you" just incase you misunderstand as usual, the scripture points out that satan has powers but his powers are subject to the believers authority! Halleluyah!!!

"Wherefore God hath highly exalted Him and given Him a name that is highly exalted above all names in the Heavens, Earth and beneath the Earth that at the mention θf the name Jesus every knee must bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord"!

Satan cannot conquer believers who know the truth! For you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free! He only pounces on your ignorance and messes you up! So seek the truth dear and make yourself free!

Delafruita:
if satan isnt powerful,why then hasnt he been subdued?mwhy does yahweh,despite all his professed love for man,leave man at the mercy of satan even allowing him roam the earth seeking whom to devour?

spicy v:

I never suggested that satan wasn't powerful ( your inability to understand grammar comes into play once again) I only stated and I state again, " satan's might is in no measure comparable to God's".

Scriptural backing: " I have given you authority over all θf the powers θf the enemy, nothing shall by any means harm you" just incase you misunderstand as usual, the scripture points out that satan has powers but his powers are subject to the believers authority! Halleluyah!!!

"Wherefore God hath highly exalted Him and given Him a name that is highly exalted above all names in the Heavens, Earth and beneath the Earth that at the mention θf the name Jesus every knee must bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord"!

Satan cannot conquer believers who know the truth! For you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free! He only pounces on your ignorance and messes you up! So seek the truth dear and make yourself free!

MacDaddy01:


What is the difference between you and a someone telling his/her child that the boogeyman will get them if they act badly?

Satan is coming for you! Boo

Oh there's alotta difference! Hahaha!!! No evil can come for me because Christ has been made manifest in my life to destroy the works θf satan! Ohhh the truth is awesome! I revel in it! Its the other way round, all evil has to boo at my arrival! Too much authority!!!

spicy v:

My last post has adequately dealt with the insignificance θf satan's powers in comparison to the Christian's authority. Now on the issue θf your wrong assumption that God left man at the mercy θf satan, I will say that assumption is totally flawed! As I earlier explained, Christ has given the believer full authority to subdue and conquer the enemy,a fact that is very well known to satan! It is now left for the believer to exercise his God given authority over the enemy else the enemy will take advantage θf his ignorance!

This is why scriptures say, " do not be ignorant θf the devices(wiles, schemes, strategies) θf the devil! So you see, his so called power is actually his devices that plays on your ignorance! Once again GO FOR THE TRUTH, KNOW IT AND MAKE YOURSELF FREE!
Shalom!

Delafruita:
seriously,why cant God just delete/erase/destroy/annihilate satan?it'd make things easier for every,even for God himself.satan keeps showing up and destroying God's beautiful plans and keeps getting away with it(at least till he is bound in chain for a thousand years).methinks God gives satan too much room.he should fle his power once in a whiile.he should make the bokoharam boys use the bombs on themselves,he should let hardworking,honest peeps have a good income(its always heartbreaking to see these "soldiers for christ reeking of poverty).God has all the powers,why does satan's peeps keep getting all the wealth(at least christians say illuminati,ogboni,419er,drug baron are satan's peeps).God needs to demonstrate his powers o.na only read we read say elijah command fire from heaven and bible say "God is the same yesterday,today and forever".make God rain fire on bokoharam hideout without delay and i can assure you the entire world will follow him

MacDaddy01:


Satan is the real lion still standing.


The tribe of Judah died. The were conquered. Fake lions

spicy v:

Hahahahaha really funny! Its typical θf man, we always want the easy way out, we never want to take responsibility and always want all the work done for us whilst we lazily enjoy the rewards θf someone else's labour. My dear, if you really are a true child θf God you have a life θf assured victory in Christ Jesus! Mind you, I never said a life devoid θf challenges, just a life θf assured victory but you have got to work hard at exercising those rights! Man himself gave in cheaply to the enemy years ago and sin, evil and wickedness was introduced to the world! The only way out is for man to submit to the Lordship θf Christ and regain his authority over sin and satan! Even at that, you still gotta exercise those rights!

Delafruita:
i marvel at your addiction to the idea of God.however,i believe in everyman to his beliefs

spicy v:

You should marvel at my FAITH in CHRIST JESUS call it addiction if you like. But I really do marvel at your unbelief! I have been living in oblivion to the existence θf people with twisted beliefs about the Almighty as I have seen here this morning and it makes me more resolute in my faith in Christ!

Delafruita:
i happen to be in a half-sleep state so i might not give as good a response as i ought to.however,if you're online when i wake,we could undertake a "bible study" together and we could compare notes.the only difference is you will be amazed at how little you know about the bible and christianity.just a few questions for you to ruminate on
1.do you know why joseph found favour with the pharoah?i know you'd say "because he translated his dream".well the pharoah at that time was ahm te se and there is a reason he favoured joseph.
2.do you realise the isrealites deserved to be enslaved by the egyptians?
3.why is it that christianity was founded by catholics,but today,numerous christians castigate catholics?dont they realise the same catholics they condemn compiled the bible they read,set the date for mas and easter?
4.do you realise that going by the standard of the Bible,almost every christian is going to hell fire?do you realise almost every christian breaks 2 of God's commandment?you ask how.isnt the shabbath supposed to be sunrise till sunset on saturday?didnt God say "keep the sabbath day holy"?why then do christians observe the sabbath on a day chosen by the pope rather than that commanded by God?didnt God also command that the passover feast be celebrated?and the feast of unleavened bread?why did christians replace them with christmas and easter?
5.the isrealites are God's own people.why then does modern day isreal reject christianity and the doctrine of christ?why dont they read the Bible?
sleep is knocking.hope you're ready to learn

Delafruita:

1.do you know why joseph found favour with the pharoah?i know you'd say "because he translated his dream".well the pharoah at that time was ahm te se and there is a reason he favoured joseph.

2.do you realise the isrealites deserved to be enslaved by the egyptians?

3.why is it that christianity was founded by catholics,but today,numerous christians castigate catholics?dont they realise the same catholics they condemn compiled the bible they read,set the date for mas and easter?

4.do you realise that going by the standard of the Bible,almost every christian is going to hell fire?do you realise almost every christian breaks 2 of God's commandment?you ask how.isnt the shabbath supposed to be sunrise till sunset on saturday?didnt God say "keep the sabbath day holy"?why then do christians observe the sabbath on a day chosen by the pope rather than that commanded by God?didnt God also command that the passover feast be celebrated?and the feast of unleavened bread?why did christians replace them with christmas and easter?

5.the isrealites are God's own people.why then does modern day isreal reject christianity and the doctrine of christ?why dont they read the Bible?
sleep is knocking.hope you're ready to learn

Mr_Anony:
Please do tell


Really? How so?


Wow interesting! I never knew that Christianity was founded by the catholics I always thought it was Jesus Christ. How did you come to this knowledge?


Point of correction, there is a difference between catholicism and christianity. Christianity simply means following Jesus Christ. The passover is a jewish tradition and Christians are not compelled to follow it. Besides, you may want to tell me if Jesus kept the traditional sabbath.


Why do modern day Jews reject Christ and don't read the bible? Simple because they don't want to read it. Besides everyone that accepts Christ is God's own person Jewish or not.
Anyway, I am really interested in learning about this new thing you are proclaiming lol.

Mr_Anony: @Macdaddy, your "logic" keeps getting worse by the day. So according to you, the fact that someone rested and another does not rest automatically makes the restless one more powerful? Your childishness amuses me.

@Delafruita, why doesn't God simply just destroy satan? Simple because God has set apart a day when satan will be judged and sent to hell.
Perhaps you may want to ask: why doesn't God just destroy us both immediately for our sins? Because God has set apart a day for our judgment as well.

@Spicy v, please don't waste your time

spicy v: Let me just give you a lil insight before I ignore you completely:

Joseph was "favored" by the king so you say, you are not aware that it was the dream that God had given to Joseph that was coming to pass? The king had no option but to act out the script that God gave to him( I don't think your understanding is even deep enough to catch this) Besides, the king himself admitted that there is no other man in his kingdom with the spirit θf God as Joseph! Now it takes a deep revelation (the permission from God to know deep spiritual things)to know someoneone in whom Gods spirit lives. And it was based on that revelation that Joseph was "favored" by the king!

Let me ask you a question: why was the gospel preached to gentiles? Answer: because Gods own people the isrealites rejected the message θf salvation through Christ! Please sir! I categorically put it to you that you are still faaaaar!!! You DO NOT know the bible at all! Go and study to show yourself approved, a workman that needs not be ashamed, RIGHTLY dividing the word θf truth!

Stop twisting scriptures out θf a lack θf knowlege! Gbam!

Mr_Anony:
Please do tell


Really? How so?


Wow interesting! I never knew that Christianity was founded by the catholics I always thought it was Jesus Christ. How did you come to this knowledge?


Point of correction, there is a difference between catholicism and christianity. Christianity simply means following Jesus Christ. The passover is a jewish tradition and Christians are not compelled to follow it. Besides, you may want to tell me if Jesus kept the traditional sabbath.


Why do modern day Jews reject Christ and don't read the bible? Simple because they don't want to read it. Besides everyone that accepts Christ is God's own person Jewish or not.
Anyway, I am really interested in learning about this new thing you are proclaiming lol.

Ihedinobi:
I refuse generally to argue Jesus Christ because my understanding is that for argument to be successful between the debating parties, there must be at least a consensus on the basis of argument. If, for instance, I were to defend the Power of God being greater than Satan's and Logicboy were to oppose me, we would at least agree on basing our arguments on reason and the rules of logic. If we did not, the debate would degenerate into a stalemate and utter frustration with neither accepting the merits of the other's arguments. That's what I mean. And my experience so far with arguments on this board is that there is almost always that lack of consensus. And when the inevitable frustration results, cheap insults follow.

Ihedinobi:
However, to the issue at hand. From the arguments you marshalled, Logicboy, it's not consistent to say that Satan is more powerful than God. In fact, is it not more logical to say that the man who is not bothered by another's ranting and raving and threatening is by his disinterest showing signs of greater strength than his adversary? After all, it must be that he is at ease because anytime he chose he could shut the other up. I think it is quite logical to assume so.

Ihedinobi:
As to Delafruita's argument that things would have been easier for everyone, including God (!), if God had squashed Satan, I wonder what you base the assumption on. If all difficulty were removed, what would life be? Without friction, would there be any motion? Without the limitations of gravity, where would trees derive the strength in their wood and of what use would weak wood be? Satan must be allowed to exist until his time is fulfilled because he is instrumental to the maturing of God's children at least. His opposition to God only serves to give greater meaning to God's doings. Without the context of Satan's antagonism, God's benevolence and greatness would be imagined at best.

caezar:
In this I disagree with you; in a sense. Without Satan't antagonism, God's benevolence and greatness would be completely meaningless. What is the value of white without black or any of the other colours? Of wealth without poverty? Of health without illness? For that matter, if evil did not exist, would we have free will? For there is no choice without value and if you eliminate one, then surely you eliminate the other. So in this, I agree with you completely.

caezar: In this I disagree with you; in a sense. Without Satan't antagonism, God's benevolence and greatness would be completely meaningless . What is the value of white without black or any of the other colours? Of wealth without poverty? Of health without illness? For that matter, if evil did not exist, would we have free will? For there is no choice without value and if you eliminate one, then surely you eliminate the other. So in this, I agree with you completely.

Mr_Anony:

@ceazar, you've lost me here, which is it really? agree or disagree?