Revolutnz: Thank God I'm not an Atheist coz if I'm an atheist,I'll be B.A.D. Afterall,for atheist,there's no heaven or hell,by my own extension,there will be no GOOD or BAD.

Revolutnz: I'll do as I like. Eat, drink, smoke,fornicate,lie and steal(remember there is no god),be jealous, envy,pride, lustful,dubious,greedy,disobedient to parents/elders, disrespectful,lazy,arrogant,hostile,selfish,angry,be g.ay, 419,armed robber,commit s.exual immoralities,adultery, murderer,hate men,women & children,hate science,hate history,hate africans, americans, europeans, asians,carribeans,arabs,hate the world in general.Hate all religions.

Revolutnz: If I had my way, I'll want to be the only person living on earth so that nothing will ever make me angry again. I won't have to compete with anyone in order to be rich or get employed or promotion etc.It will just be I, ME and MYSELF.

Revolutnz: For me, these will be a very good reason for being an ATHEIST. What's the point of being nice & doing any good when there's no reward.

Revolutnz: Do you as an atheist believe(note this word) it's good to do good rather than bad? Why?

Martian:

Did you really take some time to think about this topic before creating a thread?

I did

You've just admitted that the only thing keeping you from being "bad" is your fear of god.

Yes, it's the fear of God.

If your god is real, do you think he'll appreciate this kind of thinking?

Remember, I was only thinking like a 'bad' atheist.


lol...........wtf? You are a weak minded fool if this is how you would deal with the realisation that there is no god.

Thanks, strong minded fool.

You need to see a psychologist.

No need. I'm a psychologist.

The only reason to be an atheist is because you don't believe in the supernatural.

Have you watched dynamo kid, the magician. check youtube.What/which power is he using?

Atheism is not an escape from basic personal responsibility like you think, it's an embrace of reality as it is without the addition of the supernatural to give life and existence a meaning.

Says who? What if I chose to be a 'bad/evil' atheist?Is there any repercussion?

It's about doing "good" without expecting a reward in the "afterlife" and you can also abdicate all reason and turn into a "g@y 419 armed robber" like you proposed without having to fear "hell".

So for instance, ATHEIST A on his way to work found ATHEIST B lying on the floor by the road from gun shot wound and took him to the hospital for treatment and also paid for all his bills and he was discharged after 7days. ATHEIST A being a good man invited him to come to his house the next day.

The next day, ATHEIST B showed up with his gang at ATHEIST A's house and bound him with a rope and forced him to watch while they raped his wife and 3 teenage daughters.After taken all his money and belongings, ATHEIST A was shot along with his wife & 3 daughters.

Afterwards, ATHEIST B and his gang live another 65years and died leaving behind their children and grand/great grand children while ATHEIST A has none.

Question: According to you, both ATHEIST A and ATHEIST B's fate are the same? Is this fair?

But I think you need to believe in "God" because that's the only reason you haven't turned into a psychopath.

You are not far from the truth.


I think it's "good" when you realize that we are all individuals trying to make sense of the world and one shpuldn't impose his/her wordlview or religious dogma on anyone. Individual freedom of lifestyle is what is good as long as the collective laws of society ensures personal freedom, safety and right to property.

Doing "bad" is just adding to the absurdities of life, but "bad" is part of life, so I guess we should roll with the punches and let our "good" outweigh our "bad".

Revolutnz: Thank God I'm not an Atheist coz if I'm an atheist,I'll be B.A.D. Afterall,for atheist,there's no heaven or hell,by my own extension,there will be no GOOD or BAD.

I'll do as I like. Eat, drink, smoke,fornicate,lie and steal(remember there is no god),be jealous, envy,pride, lustful,dubious,greedy,disobedient to parents/elders, disrespectful,lazy,arrogant,hostile,selfish,angry,be g.ay, 419,armed robber,commit s.exual immoralities,adultery, murderer,hate men,women & children,hate science,hate history,hate africans, americans, europeans, asians,carribeans,arabs,hate the world in general.Hate all religions.

If I had my way, I'll want to be the only person living on earth so that nothing will ever make me angry again. I won't have to compete with anyone in order to be rich or get employed or promotion etc.It will just be I, ME and MYSELF.

For me, these will be a very good reason for being an ATHEIST. What's the point of being nice & doing any good when there's no reward.

Do you as an atheist believe(note this word) it's good to do good rather than bad? Why?

lagerwhenindoubt: Why even bother to dignify this thread with a carefully thought-out answer.

lagerwhenindoubt: Why even bother to dignify this thread with a carefully thought-out answer.

Martian: How old are you? So the magic of dynamo kid is supernatural?

[b]LOL! I'm I surprised with your answer? NO
[/b]
About your Atheist A & B, sometimes life turns out like that....

Life turns out...? So we cannot be held responsible?

and sometimes it's the opposite. Sometimes it fair, and sometimes it's cruel.

Some people crawl out of the v@gina of some royal person and they become incredible wealthy and the envy of some e.g Prince Williams of UK
Some are born in a refugee camp in the Baaka Valley and grow up to be Islamic fundamentalists whose sole ambition in life is to blow up jews.
Some are born in Germany where the sysytem of governance they have ensures economic progress and high standard of living.
Some are born in South Sudan and don't know the meaning of "high standard of living".
Idi Amin was a tyrant who died relatively peacefully in Saudi Arabia while Ghadafi never had a chance to escape.You can say its not fair that one died in saudi while the other got sodomized with a knife, but that's just the way things are.

So...

You feel what Atheist B did is not fair and since he was never punished in this world, you feel the need to create a world where he will be punished.

Why are u trying to put words into my mouth? Did I mention anything like that?


So continue to hold on to your faith so that you don't become a "bad" atheist".

Revolutnz:

There we go again. When it comes to discussing atheism with theists, you guys will 'abscond' or start abusing the OP, haba! Okay let's discuss Christianity and islam?

Thank God I'm not an Atheist coz if I'm an atheist,I'll be B.A.D. Afterall,for atheist,there's no heaven or hell,by my own extension,there will be no GOOD or BAD.
I'll do as I like. Eat, drink, smoke,fornicate,lie and steal(remember there is no god),be jealous, envy,pride, lustful,dubious,greedy,disobedient to parents/elders, disrespectful,lazy,arrogant,hostile,selfish,angry,be g.ay, 419,armed robber,commit s.exual immoralities,adultery, murderer,hate men,women & children,hate science,hate history,hate africans, americans, europeans, asians,carribeans,arabs,hate the world in general.Hate all religions.

If I had my way, I'll want to be the only person living on earth so that nothing will ever make me angry again. I won't have to compete with anyone in order to be rich or get employed or promotion etc.It will just be I, ME and MYSELF.

For me, these will be a very good reason for being an ATHEIST. What's the point of being nice & doing any good when there's no reward.

Do you as an atheist believe(note this word) it's good to do good rather than bad? Why?

lagerwhenindoubt:

It is not that at all, this issue is somewhat of a drag-back-er. I am fairly certain you have 60% of the issues nailed down and if you did not, you will find ample information on Nairaland. I think the crime we often commit at the end of a very informative thread is that we do not have a scribe to objectively summarize the thoughts, opinions and open-minded answers dropped throughout the course of discussions (fights, arguments, insults, insight)

There is also a greater crime posters commit when creating threads - it is the crime of UNCLARITY. I think it also has a self-serving purpose which is usually to guide the readers presumptions or opinions towards a path that the poster will reveal during the discussion - American lawyers do that a lot. (Leading the Witness)



This is low even for you - there is such a thing as MORALITY and it does not come from God or Religion
Jerry 17:6 The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?
Gen 6:5 The LORD saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time.



Perhaps I am slow on the uptake, I see very little meaning to this but I'd like to think I have an open mind and can discern meaning in sentences as this one. but please enlighten me



I fear the last statement confirms my fears - this thread has a purpose and it is not as open-minded as the poster presents - I could be wrong but it is a fact that there are rewards for being nice, charitable, tolerant (to ideas, philosophies, religions, ethnicity etc) and it has been proven over history

What I expect from most posters when it comes to discussing anything on the Religion and Politics section (strange bed-fellows ) is to provide CLARITY - clearness or lucidity as to perception or understanding; freedom from indistinctness or ambiguity.
It means I do not presume Muslims, Christians, Theists, Satanists etc to not know what they mean to say or how to say it. I expect at the very least that they present their opinions (however opinionated) with intelligibility, exactness, simplicity.

If you can redact this post in a manner that is devoid of any ambiguity, i am sure it will help theists and non-theists alike - PEACE

Light Reading if you care
https://www.nairaland.com/564882/why-did-god-need-write/1#7341921

Revolutnz:
Classic

Martian:

Yes, if your Atheist B i never caught and brought to justice when he's alive, then that's it.
He is not going to be punished "after death", unless you have some evidence to prove otherwise. If you can't, it's just wishful thinking.

Revolutnz:
Ok, Thanks. Ofcourse, I have hundreds of proofs from my source the Bible to share with you. But before we go on, can you tell me how you came about as a man and not a goat?

Martian:

Lol, I'll pass on sharing anything further with you. I've had my fill.

Revolutnz:

Thanks for your reply lagerbeer Really you weren't far from the truth. I was just bored at work today and decided to pull you guys legs a little. I hardly open threads in this section.

However, what's your take on this:

For instance, ATHEIST A on his way to work found ATHEIST B lying on the floor by the road from gun shot wound and took him to the hospital for treatment and also paid for all his bills and he was discharged after 7days. ATHEIST A being a good man invited him to come to his house the next day.

The next day, ATHEIST B showed up with his gang at ATHEIST B's house and bound him with a rope and forced him to watch while they Molested his wife and 3 teenage daughters.After taken all his money and belongings, ATHEIST A was shot along with his wife & 3 daughters.

Afterwards, ATHEIST B and his gang live another 65years and died leaving behind their children and grand/great grand children while ATHEIST A has none.

Question: Both ATHEIST A and ATHEIST B's fate were the same? Is this fair?

musKeeto:
Since when was life or Yahweh fair?

Revolutnz:

Is that all you've got?

musKeeto:
Yeah. What is fair to you? If you are willing to pull legs, expect to be kicked :-)

Revolutnz: Thank God I'm not an Atheist coz if I'm an atheist,I'll be B.A.D. Afterall,for atheist,there's no heaven or hell,by my own extension,there will be no GOOD or BAD.

I'll do as I like. Eat, drink, smoke,fornicate,lie and steal(remember there is no god),be jealous, envy,pride, lustful,dubious,greedy,disobedient to parents/elders, disrespectful,lazy,arrogant,hostile,selfish,angry,be g.ay, 419,armed robber,commit s.exual immoralities,adultery, murderer,hate men,women & children,hate science,hate history,hate africans, americans, europeans, asians,carribeans,arabs,hate the world in general.Hate all religions.

If I had my way, I'll want to be the only person living on earth so that nothing will ever make me angry again. I won't have to compete with anyone in order to be rich or get employed or promotion etc.It will just be I, ME and MYSELF.

For me, these will be a very good reason for being an ATHEIST. What's the point of being nice & doing any good when there's no reward.

Do you as an atheist believe(note this word) it's good to do good rather than bad? Why?

musKeeto:
Yeah. What is fair to you? If you are willing to pull legs, expect to be kicked :-)

Revolutnz:

Haba, bros you are wicked o.Just because I pulled your legs.

Ok, can you tell me how you came about as a man and not a goat? As for me, my Bible tells me that God Almighty formed(molded) my dad( Adam) from the dust and breathed into him the breathe of life and my dad came to life. And when he sinned, God told him that he shall return to dust for he was made from dust and that the life he (God) gave him when he breathed into him shall return to him (God) for judgement.This is why when someone died and got buried, after some years, his flesh would have turned to dust.

This is how I believe there's judgement after death.

Revolutnz: What if you turn out to be a goat then how will you know that you were supposed to be human?

Are you asking me?

Your masters said after the big bang or is it blast you people call it that, some things just appear out of [b]nothing...some things appear as goats, some as apes, human beings snakes, whales, cat etc. [/b]


.....and why did Almighty 'God' allow man made in his image to sin so he can judge adam?


That is why he's God. He can do or undo. God said in Jeremiah 18:6 that: “Can I not do with you, Israel, as this potter does?” declares the LORD. “Like clay in the hand of the potter, so are you in my hand.

Please which f.ool told you that all atheists believe in evolution?

Revolutnz:

Pray tell, as an atheist,

1. You don't believe that God is the creator of the heaven and earth,

2. You don't believe in evolution,

So what do you believe in? if it's bigbang, then can you pls explain how it happened and how it affects you, in one or two sentences? Thanks

mkmyers45:

Who told you i dont believe in God?

Revolutnz:

If you believe in God Almighty, 'the I am', the creator of heaven and earth, [s]who sent his son Jesus Christ to die for your sins on the cross of calvary in order to have everlasting life,then i say[/s], congrats.