LordReed:


Enlighten me.

LordReed:
What a boat load of strawman arguments but the central one is that all the things you choose to hang around the atheist neck determine how true the atheist position is. That is if all those positions prove to be incorrect then somehow atheism is as well. Well, I have good news for you, those positions do nothing to affect the validity of the atheist position so you can now retire that strawman safely.

The one thing that will sort us out is for you lot to provide unassailable evidence for your god, I think it is quite a simple proposition. No dogmas, no tenets, no emotional blackmails or threats, just provide us with verifiable evidence for your god and shut us up forever.

felixomor:

Brotherly.
He is not.


How are you

hakeem4:
no the truth is that you guys don’t want to accept the fact that there is nothing after this life. You just want to stick to your god as a coping mechanism.

Shepherd00:

Hi King.

XxSabrinaxX:

I'm game if you are

Shepherd00:

It will say it's because they wish to get away with their sin and not stand Judgement before God. But, alas, dats nat gonna happen

Shepherd00:

Resurrection! Resurrection!! Resurrection!!! KingEbukasblog is back. Wow.

XxSabrinaxX:

LOL. I joined Nairaland as a member this year but i've been roaming the forums as a guest for close to 3 years . I'd have really loved to discuss with the old christian apologists like Kingebukasblog, felixomor, butterflylion, Ishilove & spacetacular.

If any of you chaps want an argument for the last time, i'm game

HappyPagan:
and a divine sugar daddy

Butterflyleo:


I am awesome as you must be able to tell. Saying you have been missed here would be am understatement. However, I hope your spiritual branches and roots have spread further and sunken deeper with the break you took.

You are blessed.

Butterflyleo:


Na who I dey see so?

Where in Gods name have you been oh ye fellow which the deep calleth out to constantly?

danvon:
non theistic isn't atheistic I won't argue this with you

DeSepiero:

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Though I'm irreligious and poke holes in the Christian doctrine for its many outrageous and unfounded claims.
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butterflyl1on:


You are saying two conflicting things.

You say LIFE IS VALUABLE yet you say you would not hesitate to end it all if it becomes unbearable

This means life indeed isn't valuable to you. It's not it's limited nature that makes it valuable and if indeed this limitation makes it valuable why then do you see only pain, selfishness and suicide in it?

Is taking life more valuable than keeping life? You just said taking life (suicide) is more valuable than life itself (under certain conditions).

My worldview says that there is no condition that should be more valuable than life. Suicide is never an option even when all is seemingly unbearable.

You are still declaring the hopelessness in atheism for all to see

Sciencewatch, kingebukasblog, felixomor you need to read this with me o. My eyes have seen my ears.

tintingz:
If you're not a Christian, the question is not meant for you.

Did Jesus Christ preach/teach people to be skeptical? If yes, where in the Bible?

I'm directing the question to Kingebukasblog who said being skeptical is part of christainity.

Then my next question will be, why are we having Christian deists, Christian agnostic and even atheists, what brought out these philosophical ideology today?

urahara:



I swear


I can vividly remember that Ebuka wasn't always in support of evolution

urahara:


Cc kingebukasblog

Amberon11:
That's not the point. You're really beginning to sound like an atheist

Dohgon:


I will admit, you are intelligent but not wise. Knowledge divided by understanding equal Wisdom. Google search (intelligence without a brain) I'm sure you will find many examples.

It is the Universe that is showing us that, not a man in the clouds.

And I never said your god is evil, I said your god is responsible for evil by default having created the devil.

If a pastor comes home to find his wife raped and chopped to pieces should he....
Persevere and thank god for this extreme test of faith?
Blame god for not protecting his wife?
Blame his wife for not believing in god enough so that god would have protected her from evil?

Just a thought but I already know what a god defender will say. "God works in mysterious ways. Its not for us to understand"
Illogical cop-out

dalaman:




So as an atheist , why is murder right or wrong and on what basis did you make your judgement ?

Are you sure your God's actions potray peace, patience and harmony? His actions in the bible says other wise.

"Sa 15:2 - This is what the LORD Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt.
1Sa 15:3 - Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’ ”

If murdering someone isn't an act of love but of hate , violence , wickedness, then what do you consider this injunction of total annihilation of people including infants and animals to be? Where is the patience, peace and harmony in this act? Do you consider the killing of infants an act of patience and love?

I see totalitarian and draconian acts in your God's nature. Acts that are very immoral even by his standard that you listed earlier.

johnydon22:


Says just same thing as your definition of objective morality which i agree with. Let me explain with a question below.



What makes murder wrong?

Is it wrong because God said it is, because it is etched in some kind of universal law or there are certain implications or standards that define the litmus tilt of such action?
Are God's action good because these actions are objectively good and coincides with a definite objective moral definition or are these actions good because they are God's?

TomHagen:
Those mentors of yours did not have the internet.
You do!

johnydon22:


I see you are evolving.

Evolution does not necessarily preclude design.

Just a look down our history will paint a clearer. Humans designed cars and this design have evolved through the years.

Evolution can also be a tool of design and not an opposite.

johnydon22:


All right i am back now.

I wanted to address this since afternoon but i hate typing with my phone.

You have just defined for us what it means to be objective and subjective which is rather good.

But the point of my question was not what it means to be objective but what makes an objective morality objective.

Are there elements or implications that an action will possess before we can quantify such an action as objectively good?

What makes Good to be good?

johnydon22:

No one argues with atheists and still remains the same, the arguments will force you to rethink what you know.

dalaman:


What are the categories? List them lets see.

Classic KingEbukasBlog, jump from Judaism to shinto, to deist later to Hinduism. I saw you play that game with your christian friend by bringing reincarnation into a discussion that has nothing to do with it. He ended up by saying he hopes he understands what you are saying, he clearly doesn't, he just didn't want to drag on with it.

dalaman:


Going to Israel is what sealed my faith and made me a full blown athiest like 4 years ago. I was astonished when I realized that the people weren't christians, they were anti christians. They hate christianity and christians (i.e the practicing Jews). Some of the people were interested in knowing why we left Africa to come and look for evidence of a Jesus that never was, that's the impression I got from those that I interacted with. They felt we should be Jews instead of christians because they had more evidence of their Jewish figures/ history than that of Jesus/ christianity to show us.