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Religion / Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:25pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
CoolUsername: Totally unnecessary. You can pass if you are not interested . You are not being forced to take it up 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:04pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
mujahid777: There have been very few atheist thinkers through out the history of mankind . And those few atheist thinkers are not well respected like the theist thinkers are . Over 98 percent of the branches of knowledge have been created by theists . I'm beginning to think that you are referring to atheist thinkers as those who adhere to silly beliefs like there is no God . 1 Like 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:23pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
ScienceWatch: Thanks bro . God bless you 1 Like 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 2:46pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
Dohgon: Not every theist is religious. Not every theist believes in the Adam and Eve story . Stop making any references to the bible or any other religious texts . Pay attention to my rebuttal and see if I mentioned anything about the bible apart from explaining why anthropomorphism is used to portray God. There are non-theistic religions and atheistic religions , so the objective of religion is not to obey the will of God 2) As I said, intelligence needs no host (catch 22) again. Limited logic and perception that Electro-magnetic energy cannot exist unless created by a separate thing. How was the universe created? Electro-magnetic energy. The only dispute is by what means, a big bang or the hand of an illusionart man-like being. Intelligence is the creator but it has nothing to do with how any religion describes it. Intelligence needs no host is a false assertion. Ex nihilo nihil fit - nothing comes from nothing ; if there was nothing, things(abstract or concrete ) like intelligence wouldn't exist. |
Religion / Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 2:39pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
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Religion / Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:26pm On Dec 20, 2017 |
CoolUsername: Yeah |
Religion / Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:26am On Dec 20, 2017 |
butterflyl1on: ... thank you Sir They don't know what awaits them All of them claiming atheism is logical have now been given an opportunity to show how tenable atheist arguments are . See them running away now and some asking God to send email to prove his existence . I guess God@yahoo.com would be the email address. Bunch of jokers ! 3 Likes 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:55am On Dec 20, 2017 |
Dohgon: This has been refuted so many times on this forum . And God having human characteristics is called anthropomorphism and the writers of the bible used it so as make God comprehensible to a human reader . Deists like Xenophanes criticised the use of anthropomorphism in religious texts. Deism also rejects divine revelation or manifestation from God . So impugning God's revelation of Itself to humans isn't really questioning His existence. In maltheism/dystheism , God is an evil being or not totally a good being like other types of theism portray him to be . We have rationalism as a means of obtaining knowledge of things we can't perceive through reason - and this admits empiricism is fallible and limited since our sensory experience only dwells on the physical. Though one can make use of both rationalism and empiricism to obtain knowledge Eg The Cosmological Argument for God's existence allows both empirical evidence and reason through deduction to attain the corollary which is the affirmation of the existence of God God has morally sufficient reasons why he permits evil mainly because of freewill . Every moral agent has the ability to do things on their volition and so if God permits evil , it could because of the expression of freewill . That's why we moral laws that help us freely choose to do good not evil . Evil itself is evidence for God . Why ? Because evil is a departure from good and since God (the epitome of moral goodness) is good , evil is contrary to Its nature . In positive deism, God gives man reason to figure out or discover Its nature . So saying that man expressing this God-given ability to ascertain Its nature is proof that God is a figment of our imagination is ridiculous . 2) I am one who believes that the universe is a single intelligence. Furthermore, my definition of universe is 99% abstract (Energy). To speak of something as substantial is almost illogical like saying; my thoughts are real when you cant see, hear, or feel them. Religion simply attempts to describe that intelligence but in their imagination they always need a (Host), an anthropomorphic representation of their beliefs and morals. The emboldened text has been the foundation for many good arguments for God's existence . 1. Mental states are non-physical , your thoughts can't be felt or touched like you clearly said . And the only logical explanation for an non-physical state is that a non-physical ultimate mind(God) exists. Material objects like your chair , table , don't experience mental states only minds do . And our thoughts could be about something else (intentionality) Eg I can think of the battle in the 1800s between the Zulu warriors and the British soldiers who were about 1400 were decimated. And we have a fine argument that through deduction points to the existence of God . Here is the syllogistic form : 1. If God does not exist , intentional states of consciousness do not exist . 2. Intentional states of consciousness exist 3. Therefore, God exists From premise 1 , materialists deny the existence of intentional states of consciousness. And if intentional states of consciousness do not exist , then a non-physical ultimate mind which is the reason for such nature and experience do not exist From premise 2 , you agree that intentional states of consciousness exist by admitting that thoughts are non-physical Then the obvious conclusion is to affirm the existence of God . 2. In the idealist's world , our thoughts are basically what form our reality . And our ideas mostly are simply of what what we perceive and this includes objects : chairs , tables, etc . So here is an argument in defence of this stance 1. We perceive ordinary objects 2. We perceive ideas 3. Therefore , ordinary objects are ideas. Don't forget ideas are mind-dependent. You need a mind to elicit ideas . And this is the basis of George Berkeley 's Esse Est Percipi - to be is to be perceived. If we should go further , he addresses how this conclusion that objects are ideas prove the existence of an ultimate mind or an ultimate perceiver of things(God) - the reason why objects (which are ideas ) exist even though our finite minds are not there to perceive them . This is how we use reason and sensory experience to obtain knowledge of things beyond our our sensory experience . 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Religion / Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:46pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
NPComplete: I've explained it so many times and I'm still being called a deist . It got so enervating so I decided to stop . There are many types of theology -Natural Theology, revealed theology, transcendental theology etc . I have deep interest in Natural Theology which uses logical arguments and reason to support the existence of God and little of revealed theology. Deists use mostly natural Theology in their discourses but this does not mean any other theist including Christians can't do same . Funny enough it's the atheists not Christians that have mocked and ridiculed my position . They claimed I'm confused . Pay attention carefully , it's mainly the atheist . No single Christian on this forum has called me a deist or denigrated my views . Bottom line is Chris Langan is not a Christian. Then Kamal , a teenager , should rightly be the smartest Christian. His IQ is 231 . He has overtly identified as a Christian 3 Likes 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:32pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
butterflyl1on: Nigga said God should send emails . Imagine him having a debate with the great Plantinga and he mentions that. Just try to imagine 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:30pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
Ranchhoddas: Me not being able to refute the argument shows that I recognize it as a superior argument . But my interlocutor must be to defend his argument very well . |
Religion / Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:18pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
NPComplete: Many websites that mentioned him said he was a Christian . But he does believe in God , heaven and the after-life and he hopes to prove these using mathematics . Maybe he figured it out though reason not religion like the classical deists. I have views that have been termed unChrisrian like the idea of a universe (A cyclic one ) and the spirit undergoing the Samsara with the spirit 'embodying' different intelligent lives (eg a spirit can incarnate as human in a past life and can become an alien in another life ) . This does not stop me from being a Christian and I think this could the same case as Chris . 1 Like 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:01pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
Ranchhoddas: Me ! If I can't refute the argument then you win . Info is in the OP . It's a very simple task . Goodluck if you are interested ! |
Religion / Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:59pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
JackBizzle:What makes the thread dumb ? |
Religion / Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:55pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
butterflyl1on: He is an embodiment of confusion indeed . I wonder if he actually believes the tripe he spews but I find it adorable and funny anyway 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:50pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
NPComplete: The point of the thread is to show shallow atheists that one can be incredibly smart and still maintain his belief in the existence of God or still profess that Christ is the son of God . To shame their ridiculous assertion that intelligence leads to atheism while facts like Chris's case destroys this assertion. I mean , also , we have an atheist lowbrow who claimed reading makes people become atheists while Chris through reading coupled with his high intelligence was able to develop his knowledge about so many fields of study. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:01pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
NPComplete: How modern scientists have inventions and patents to their names? how many modern scientists have had their theories verified ? Take your time o ! |
Religion / Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:56pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
budaatum: Hahaha ... Oga Butterflylion come see oo . Dude is trying to feign ignorance of what he did 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:15pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
budaatum: What about this guy ? He is like 1000 Richard Dawkins
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Religion / Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:10pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
budaatum: Christopher Langan is still smarter than Richard Dawkins . Because someone is a professor and slanders religion does not mean he is incredibly intelligent . I think I even have a higher IQ than Richard |
Religion / Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:07pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
budaatum: Alright . |
Religion / Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:00pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
budaatum: Ok. So are you still interested in taking up the challenge ? |
Religion / Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:57pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
Modo9: Says who ? Is this an objective or a subjective stance ? Is there a consensus to 'there's no evidence of god' ? Let's have a discussion . Anyone who is interested in winning the cash prize knows what to do . 1 Like 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:54pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
ScienceWatch: Yekpa ! 1 Like 1 Share
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Religion / Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:48pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
obinna58: I opened a thread showing that the smartest people in the world are Christians and theists . So no matter the level of intelligence , the belief in the existence of God will always be perfectly logical . I'm very open-minded that's why I accepted that I can concede ; if I cant refute an argument then the cash prize is awarded to the person that provides the argument . I even challenged atheists to refute my own definition of atheism - that's open mindedness right there . 2 Likes 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:08pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
hakeem4: You added two more ? Ah ah . An extra 20k for this addition in case sense is that expensive |
Religion / Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:05pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
obinna58: I have read so many books ; I'm cognizant of many theological/ philosophical positions on God's existence and nature , religions and religious principles and beliefs ; I have argued with so many atheists in four years ; I have knowledge of many arguments on God's existence for/against ; I have developed my own definition of atheism and theism . I'll be fine homie |
Religion / Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:00pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
budaatum: Thank you very much
I'm the judge . This is why atheists who are questioning my ability to reason are not actually smart themselves : Since I lack the ability to reason , then construct an argument that is above my purview and you win the money easily because I lack the intellectual ability to refute it . But una no get sense na ... so I dey look una 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Religion / Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:43pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
hakeem4: Honestly , because of how incredibly shallow and naively constructed these arguments are , I could give you the 100k to buy sense . 10 Likes 3 Shares |
Religion / Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:49pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
budaatum: Lol .Reading makes one an atheist? Ok o And intelligence makes one a theist .No wonder incredibly smart people have always been theists 2 Likes 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:47pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
budaatum:First rule of a Nigerian Theist - Thou shalt verify thy facts ! 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:45pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
butterflyl1on: Nice one sir . See how they are desperately trying to undermine his intelligence and IQ tests. If these was an atheist , they would open numerous threads and call us to come and see . Very very pathetic . Anyway , It does not stop Christians and theists from being incredibly smart people though . |
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