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ifeness:
That has got nothing to do with equality. That doesn't mean women are inferior to men. A man may chose to sleep around but certainly must not see women as inferiors

Even if you sleep around since you have lost your moral figure God, using SMASH and HOES to describe the female gender is not only sexist and derogatory, but also shows a man that consider them as object of sexual fantasy, that can be smashed and passed frustration to on bed. When I told you to stop boasting, you didn't hear.

GOOD MOVE BEFORE THEY TARNISH THE ALREADY POOR IMAGE WE HAVE IN THE OUTSIDE WORLD.

Truth be said, I fear for Buhari.

ifeness:
And not to forget that your book claimed your God never change,certainly his(as you think he is a male) views on women cannot change. Certainly this Male God's is against the rise of women power. I encourage every lady out there to boycott anything associated to the Bible God.

I'm good,yourself ?
My very good friend recently got scammed by a lady he married from Nigeria. She only
married him for the passport. The moment she got her UK passport,she started behaving
funny,she eventually left him with three kids. FVVVK marriage! It ain't worth it at all. I
would rather smash these hoes....

Sounds like a man who loves 'equality'.

ifeness:
Listen man,those stories belonged to the Sumerians before they were written in the Bible. The stories of Enki and Enlil were cleverly omitted. Make more research on Enki and Enlil you will find out more.

How do they tally with the book of Job? What correlation do they have?

ifeness:
Exodus 21:7: "And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do." A father could sell his daughter as a slave. Even though a male slave is automatically given his freedom after 6 years, a female slave remained a slave forever.

Numbers 3:15 shows that a census counted only male infants over the age of one month, boys and men. "Number the children of Levi after the house of their fathers, by their families: every male from a month old and upward shalt thou number them." Females were not considered worthy of being included.

Deuteronomy 25:11: If two men are fighting, and the wife of one of them grabs the other man's testicles, her hand is to be chopped off. There is no penalty if a male relative were to grab the other man. "When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets. Then thou shalt cut off her hand..."

For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

ifeness:
Go ahead and source out some posts. Did you just say Dinosaurs and Ice age in the Bible? Please lets be honest here,Dinosaurs and the Pyramid of Egypt predates the Bible. You don't want me to go Bible bashing on this thread do you?

Leviathan and Behemoth are dinosaurs, as for ice age, this is the link https://www.nairaland.com/2111380/another-proof-evolution-flawed-earth

Fayose's downfall is eminent, his bed space in Kirikiri has been specially prepared.

ifeness:
My wife and I are equals. She is no subject to me. You are still wrong and confused with Mythology.

What I'm trying to say that if a myth book tallies this much with reality, then you should give it a try. In Bible, you have dinosaurs, ice age, volcanoes, division of languages, division of continents, mass extinction of animals(mammoths, dinosaurs) , large piles of sedimentary rocks, history of nations, that moon uses reflected light, gives accurate reasons why we have the present population frame, wonders of Egypt, modern science, even feminism!
Don't pretend as if you are rights advocate cos I might be forced to source out some posts.

Glory be to God

Cool story

World's richest President.

Ajimobi is in trouble.

I will read one line per day till I finish reading, then I will modify my post, replacing it with something meaningful.

johnydon22:
it can not be attributed to one specific reason. it takes years of skepticism.

When you start comparing Reality to fairy tales and wishful thinking.

It might take years for you to finally turn ur back on all your beliefs but when you finally realize it was all wishful thinking and fairy tale crap.

When you finally port to atheism it feels like "Aaaaaaaaaaaah relaxing and wonderful "

If it were relaxing and cool, you won't stock your library with so much books and visit the religion section just to curse the invisible Myth everyday. I have never seen a book well written as the Bible, it touches every aspect of human life, compressing history of nations and mankind and the role God played in it in a simple book. Teaching us how it is applicable in our present world and the promise of eternal bliss with the Sons of God, where there will never be weeping nor morning.

God brought His Son to die and be tortured, that he may be bond so that we can be free, He doesn't care about your sins, neither does he need your money. We been sinners, He promised us a home of bliss where we will live till eternity, where we will be slaves of righteousness , JERUSALEM. Requiring only that you believe.


What I know surely is that even knowing full well that He doesn't exist, believing removes no good from you, all the book of myth seeks for you is happiness, genuine happiness.

And He said to the woman, "I will increase your trouble in pregnancy and your pain in giving birth. In. spite of this, you will still have desire for your husband, yet you will be subject to him. "



Another reason to believe in Bible @ ifeness

plaetton:
@misogynist2014,
What exactly is the point of this bible quotation?

What matters is the evidence is there that Yahweh commanded Saul to commit acts of murder, war and genocide againsts other human beings, including women and children.

Thanks for supporting me with your scriptures.

What is evil to you might be good to me. You sound like a sexist, men are to be killed and women left alone. At least, you clearly know the reason God did what He did? He gives reasons for his actions. If you are not happy or satisfied with his reasons, charge HIM to court, preferably ICC.

Airforce1:
Cc feminist Vickybee

Trouble maker nneka123

Lalasticlala

Don't let a woman define you as a man. Adam was called Man before he met Eve. I also once bothered about feminism, but you can only see me comment on it mostly if it is on front page or about to hit lalasticlala. As a man, you have to be strong and independent. If you say A and your woman does B, it doesn't mean you are less man but she's disobedient. Feminism is a curse Gen 3:16, it is as old as man and carefully pened down in the Holy Bible, Esther 1 vs 1-22 .

onetrack:
"Sin is an imaginary disease invented in order to sell you an imaginary cure"

He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8

plaetton:
What?
The bible doesn't support violence?
What bible have you been reading?

Is it not your bible god that punished King Saul for daring to show mercy on innocent women and children, refusing to commit genocide as commanded by Yahweh?

How many genocides were comitted by Moses, Joshua, David, Samuel, Elijah and countless other prophets of yahweh, on behalf of yahweh, on direct commands of yahweh?

You must be a bad liar, or you haven't yet read your bible.

Verses continued.....


21 But the people took of the spoil, sheep and oxen, the chief of the things which should have been utterly destroyed, to sacrifice unto the Lord thy God in Gilgal.
22 And Samuel said, Hath the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the Lord ? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.
23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord , he hath also rejected thee from being king.
24 And Saul said unto Samuel, I have sinned: for I have transgressed the commandment of the Lord , and thy words: because I feared the people, and obeyed their voice.
25 Now therefore, I pray thee, pardon my sin, and turn again with me, that I may worship the Lord .
26 And Samuel said unto Saul, I will not return with thee: for thou hast rejected the word of the Lord , and the Lord hath rejected thee from being king over Israel.
27 And as Samuel turned about to go away, he laid hold upon the skirt of his mantle, and it rent.
28 And Samuel said unto him, The Lord hath rent the kingdom of Israel from thee this day, and hath given it to a neighbour of thine, that is better than thou.
29 And also the Strength of Israel will not lie nor repent: for he is not a man, that he should repent.
30 Then he said, I have sinned: yet honour me now, I pray thee, before the elders of my people, and before Israel, and turn again with me, that I may worship the Lord thy God.
31 So Samuel turned again after Saul; and Saul worshipped the Lord .
32 Then said Samuel, Bring ye hither to me Agag the king of the Amalekites. And Agag came unto him delicately. And Agag said, Surely the bitterness of death is past.
33 And Samuel said, As thy sword hath made women childless, so shall thy mother be childless among women. And Samuel hewed Agag in pieces before the Lord in Gilgal.
34 Then Samuel went to Ramah; and Saul went up to his house to Gibeah of Saul.
35 And Samuel came no more to see Saul until the day of his death: nevertheless Samuel mourned for Saul: and the Lord repented that he had made Saul king over Israel.

plaetton:
What?
The bible doesn't support violence?
What bible have you been reading?

Is it not your bible god that punished King Saul for daring to show mercy on innocent women and children, refusing to commit genocide as commanded by Yahweh?

How many genocides were comitted by Moses, Joshua, David, Samuel, Elijah and countless other prophets of yahweh, on behalf of yahweh, on direct commands of yahweh?

You must be a bad liar, or you haven't yet read your bible.

Help me bolden the points you made on Saul in the verses below

15 Samuel also said unto Saul, The Lord sent me to anoint thee to be king over his people, over Israel: now therefore hearken thou unto the voice of the words of the Lord .
2 Thus saith the Lord of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
4 And Saul gathered the people together, and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah.
5 And Saul came to a city of Amalek, and laid wait in the valley.
6 And Saul said unto the Kenites, Go, depart, get you down from among the Amalekites, lest I destroy you with them: for ye shewed kindness to all the children of Israel, when they came up out of Egypt. So the Kenites departed from among the Amalekites.
7 And Saul smote the Amalekites from Havilah until thou comest to Shur, that is over against Egypt.
8 And he took Agag the king of the Amalekites alive, and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword.
9 But Saul and the people spared Agag, and the best of the sheep, and of the oxen, and of the fatlings, and the lambs, and all that was good, and would not utterly destroy them: but every thing that was vile and refuse, that they destroyed utterly.
10 Then came the word of the Lord unto Samuel, saying,
11 It repenteth me that I have set up Saul to be king: for he is turned back from following me, and hath not performed my commandments. And it grieved Samuel; and he cried unto the Lord all night.
12 And when Samuel rose early to meet Saul in the morning, it was told Samuel, saying, Saul came to Carmel, and, behold, he set him up a place, and is gone about, and passed on, and gone down to Gilgal.
13 And Samuel came to Saul: and Saul said unto him, Blessed be thou of the Lord : I have performed the commandment of the Lord .
14 And Samuel said, What meaneth then this bleating of the sheep in mine ears, and the lowing of the oxen which I hear?
15 And Saul said, They have brought them from the Amalekites: for the people spared the best of the sheep and of the oxen, to sacrifice unto the Lord thy God; and the rest we have utterly destroyed.
16 Then Samuel said unto Saul, Stay, and I will tell thee what the Lord hath said to me this night. And he said unto him, Say on.
17 And Samuel said, When thou wast little in thine own sight, wast thou not made the head of the tribes of Israel, and the Lord anointed thee king over Israel?
18 And the Lord sent thee on a journey, and said, Go and utterly destroy the sinners the Amalekites, and fight against them until they be consumed.
19 Wherefore then didst thou not obey the voice of the Lord , but didst fly upon the spoil, and didst evil in the sight of the Lord ?
20 And Saul said unto Samuel, Yea, I have obeyed the voice of the Lord , and have gone the way which the Lord sent me, and have brought Agag the king of Amalek, and have utterly destroyed the Amalekites.

Justfollowit:
Misogynist2014, To you is your faith and to them is their faith. Let them be!

Thanks. But without people like me, they will mislead a lot, if my posts were for them, I type in vain.

There is one song atheists cannot sing, the song of HOPE.

Verse 1
Jerusalem on high
My song and city is,
My home whene'er I die,
The centre of my bliss:
Chorus
O happy place!
When shall I be,
My GOD, with Thee,
To see Thy Face?
Verse 2
Thy walls are made of pearls,
My heavenly city bright
The gates are dazzling white,
Thy streets are paved with gold
Chorus
O happy place!
When shall I be,
My GOD, with Thee,
To see Thy Face?
Verse 3
The sun does not light there
Neither is there the moon,
All these are not needed
For Jesus is the light
Chorus
O happy place!
When shall I be,
My GOD, with Thee,
To see Thy Face?
Verse 4
There dwells my Lord, my King,
Judged here unfit to live;
There Angels to Him sing,
And lowly homage give:
Chorus
O happy place!
When shall I be,
My GOD, with Thee,
To see Thy Face?
Verse 5
The Patriarchs of old
There from their travels cease;
The Prophets there behold
Their longed-for Prince of Peace:
Chorus
O happy place!
When shall I be,
My GOD, with Thee,
To see Thy Face?
Verse 6
The LAMB's Apostles there
I might with joy behold;
The harpers I might hear
Harping on harps of gold;
Chorus
O happy place!
When shall I be,
My GOD, with Thee,
To see Thy Face?
Verse 7
The bleeding Martyrs, they
Within those courts are found,
Clothed in pure array,
Their scars with glory crowned:
Chorus
O happy place!
When shall I be,
My GOD, with Thee,
To see Thy Face?
Verse 8
Ah! woe is me! that I
In Kedar's tents here stay:
No place like that on high;
LORD, thither guide my way:
Chorus
O happy place!
When shall I be,
My GOD, with Thee,
To see Thy Face?

johnydon22:
Gotquestions.org is a christian apologetic website, why wouldn't it coincide with what you believe

You have a point, but I don't think the website really matters if they treat the issues raised. Creation.com and answeringislam.org are my best websites because they don't silence the views of the opposition. Answeringislam.org even gives links to those arguments. I have others that I read, like the good link I gave to you yesterday, which mentioned most of the points on wikipaedia (on which I PAINSTAKINGLY read both the 1st and 2nd Timothy arguments). I don't contradict what I write. I remain unshaken in Faith. Come quickly LORD!

dalaman:
Stories of his disciples suffering came hundreds of years later by the church to strengthen the faith of believers at that time. The stories of Jesus were written by Christians who lived at least 40 -100 years after Jesus supposedly died. Non of the authors of the gospels was an eye witness.

You see, history is very easy to twist. If they were not witnesses, why does their account of His resurrection match with ease? How did He fulfill prophecies? To say the Disciples and early christians did not face persecution is a very dry joke that holds no water.

Trustworthiness:
The Quran did not confirm the Bible. The Quran only confirms the true book called Injil given to Jesus by God Almighty and not the bible. That is why, God inform the Muslims in the Quran that, if what you call the word of God, why there is discrepancies in it. That is, if the bible is truly holy and from God, the discrepancies and inconsistencies in the bible won't be there in the bible in the first place.

So, do not use the Quran to justify the misconceptions of you Christians as the Quran and the teachings of Islam is very clear and without ambiguity.

Glory be to Allah, there are no discrepancies in The injil and Torah, not ONE , which was confirmed and endorsed by the prophet of Allah (peace of Allah be unto him).

wiegraf:
Reading some scarily foolish statements prompted this. Seems many of you seem to think science is subjective. That it's somehow the white man's thing.

........

Na wa

As there might quite a few of you out there, better to address all here

Anyhow, no. It does not rely opinons, faith and so on, therefore claiming science is the white man's thing is as silly as saying the color blue belongs to the white man. See? Folly

It's really simple with science; even when one is at the stage of conjecture or hypothesis, if your claim is not falsifiable, in other words it isn't objectively verifiable, then it isnt science.

The color blue was not created by man (unlike say Jesus or Yahweh), it freely exists in nature. Same thing with scientific theories, obviously. All natural. In fact, that is their very definition as science is a study of the natural. So going about claiming germ theory belongs to the white man is impressively foolish. You might as well go around claiming that 1+1=2 belongs to the white man as well.

I won't elaborate anymore on that. If you can't see the glaringly obvious, then you need a special needs teacher to help you

Now, if we leave the domain of the harebrained a more nuanced and related allegation of faith in science plays out thus; how do you know every cause in the universe is natural? How do you know everything around you is natural?

Simple, logic demands it is so. Call it the logic of something from nothing but it's a bit more than that. And, importantly, history backs it up.

Not once in history has phenomena attributed to supernatural causation been shown to be so. Not once. The reverse is very much untrue. From your grannies assuming an invisible man (usually, sorry females) with a sprinkler system was responsible for rain to those thinking disease was a result of spirits mocking about, history is replete with examples of supernatural causation being pissed all over on by natural, read scientific, explanations with evidence to back them up.


And the claim that the supernatural cannot be verified, perhaps even by definition, is usually off. They largely can be confirmed, eg the giant sprinkler in the sky. Even those more involved, eg prayer.

Tbc

Rest in peace, restless soul.

mankand:
Dude save yourself the stress, he never lived, he never existed. Historians, archaeologists have proved that nothing like him ever lived with documented facts.

He only lived in your mind. None of the characters in the Bible ever lived, the biblical stories were all folklores

You're so funny. All historians and archeologists!? Jesus exists, my dear friend. If He didn't, Christians and even His disciples, except John would not have suffered persecution in vain.

simplex2:
Your response in no way deals with the point I raised. Joseph is a jewish name, why didn't the Greeks substitute it? All the 12 disciples names were all jewish, same as the apostles and others. Why did the Greeks decide to change your messiah's name to one of theirs?

Your last statement is a direct contradiction to your believe. Is the quoran now a standard for confirmation of truth? Can we then go ahead and say that all that is contained in the quoran is the truth, nothing but the truth? Because it will not be right to pick passages from the quoran that supports your claim and throw out the rest.

Please if you're going to quote me, tackle the issues I raised and not raising more issues as we'll end up going around in circles.

A lot of questions can be solved on Google, but maybe its because you see it as a means of chatting. I haven't read this link, but it is one of my most trusted websites http://www.gotquestions.org/Yeshua-Jesus.html

simplex2:
My question remains: Why and how did the Greek version encapsulate the original name? If the Greeks decide to substitute the original name with one of their idol gods called 'Jesus', then you are apparently giving credence to the little Greek god rather than the original messiah you intend to.

Same with the generally accepted picture of your messiah which is actually a pix of someone else.

Same with the Greeks pagan celebration days which has now become traditional christian celebration days too.

How convenient!

The New Testament was written in Greek, even Muhammad in his apparent contradiction of the suras, called the New Testament 'injil' i.e. Good News. I consider the Qur'an as also a confirmation of the Holy Bible.

davien:

Most antiquities scholars think that the New Testament gospels are “mythologized history.”
In other words, they think that around the start of the first century a controversial Jewish rabbi named Yeshua ben Yosef gathered a following and his life and teachings provided the seed that grew into Christianity.



http://www.alternet.org/belief/5-reasons-suspect-jesus-never-existed



The rest are answered here...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwUZOZN-9dc

But you don't doubt the existence of Aristotle and Confucius, even when they Lived before Him. Every myth has a similar tone, why is it that Bible dates its own myth? Even when there are opposition to this link, you hold it true because they say what you wish to hear. Even Jewish Rabbis don't deny His existence.
For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to
sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own
desires and will look for teachers who will tell them
whatever their itching ears want to hear.

simplex2:
Exactly my problem with you folks: let me ask you one question; have you ever wondered how the name 'Jesus' came to be? Of course its not a hebrew nor jewish name. Even in the translated English version of the bible, most hebrew and jewish names were retained; why the chanhge from 'Yeshua' to Jesus?

A little research won't hurt you.

Joshua of Nazareth, whom the Greeks call Jesus, isn't it?