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Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by MAITEMA(m): 7:09am On Mar 30, 2009
Super Eagles will be doomed if we continually use Mikel as our playmaker. He has simply become a defensive midfielder. Mourihno ruined Nigeria’s opportunity to have a worldclass playmaker by destroying that boy's potential in my opinion. Amodu is technically inept to have made such a woeful decision as using Mikel as our playmaker. If we are to make any serious impact in world football, we need a playmaker in the mould of Okocha/Nwosu/Etim which Mikel is NOT!

With what I saw yesterday, I doubt we will qualify for the World cup, and if we do, we will not get past the preliminary stage. It was embarrassing the way the Mozambicans outplayed, outwitted and bombarded our Eagles for 90mins. We were even lucky the referee disallowed their goals which were disputable and most referees would have allowed.

If nothing serious is done about our central midfield, believe me, we will be doomed. Why on earth are we playing two defensive midfielders (Keita & Mikel) together? This ruined the game for us. A true playmaker/rover like Okocha would have given us creative spark to attack from the middle. In fact I even prefer we manage aged Kanu as playmaker until we find a new one soonest I hope.
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by tosinaded(m): 7:28am On Mar 30, 2009
Siasia playd 2 defensive midfielders in ajilore and keita all tru the olympics and got a silver!
So wut are we sayn?
Amodu has no qualities simple!
Must u av a playmaker to win matches?
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by MAITEMA(m): 11:45am On Mar 30, 2009
@ tosinaded

What I am saying is crystal clear! Every SUCCESSFUL team in the world that I know has a central playmaker. Maybe you should name one that doesnt. Regarding your claims of Ajilore & Keita partnership,I will not join issues with you on that matter because I do not recollect that. However I recollect that Odemwinge played the roving role for that team a couple of times and I know Siasia to be an advocate of delighful attacking football.

I am sure you are a Chelsea fan and indirectly defending Mikel.
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by slimghost(m): 1:16pm On Mar 30, 2009
Mikel is an overrated scumbag simple! His performance was pathetic yesterday.
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by tosinaded(m): 1:24pm On Mar 30, 2009
See urself!
Am an arsenal jst speakn my mind and giving my opinion!
If siasia cld get a silver without a playmaker,then wuts amodu's problem?
Wut hapnd to wingers?
Must u play 4rm the middle?
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by sley4life(m): 9:18pm On Mar 30, 2009
an asshole
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by onyxera(m): 10:40pm On Mar 30, 2009
i dont see any good in mikel both @ chelsea and for nigeria,,,and as 4 amodu i tink i would prefer ladan bosso (lol)
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by showbobo(m): 2:41am On Mar 31, 2009
Mikel is simply worthless. . . . . . . i am 101% sure i can do better than him smiley
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by chidichris(m): 9:03am On Apr 01, 2009
MAITEMA,
1. pls explain to me who a play maker is.
2. the last time nigeria won the african cup of nations, who was their play maker?
3. is this topic about mikel's inabilities or amodu's?
4. did nigeria fail to do well in mozambique because mikel did not play well?
5. from all posts here, mikel is not a good player, will it be right if i say mikel is either bribing all these coaches or using juju on them both at club levels and national team?
6. what do u think is responsible for every commentator to talk about mikel at the end of every match including you?
7. i will be happy to know who is the play maker of england at the moment.
8. what do you think is the problem of nigerian football - mikel?
9. under normal circumstances, can't nigeria win in moputo even with 10 players?
10. is etim among ur list of successful players in nigeria? if yes, pls highlight his achievements.
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by tkb417(m): 9:23am On Apr 01, 2009
Hes got potentials yeah

he should be high up there doing magic on the field but who do we have?
an slowpoke!

back to the game
it wasnt becos Mikel didnt play well that the eagles played badly.
Presently, we have a set of over rated gangsters that cant play footie. Their is a dearth of natural/skillful footballers in the national team

i dont know who to blame but i think the people runnin footie in this country dont know jack
we shld scrap the super eagles and concentrate on age group competitions cos this team will come last in the WCQ campaign.

they cant qualify if threatened with death sef.
assholes
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by chidichris(m): 10:08am On Apr 01, 2009
he should be high up there doing magic on the field but who do we have?
an slowpoke!

tkb417 ,
if mikel is an example of ur knowledge of slowpoke, please i will like to be one.
most of the commentators here calling mikel names represent regrets in their various homes.
it is funny when a two legged man who is created with no form of disabilities can do nothing but condem others.
have u for once asked urself why u are not playing or why is amodu not mentioning ur name.
pls i do not mean insult, have u ever asked urself or even seat back one day to compare ur achievements with the so called slowpoke. if u have done that and confirm that the slowpoke in question has done more for himself, his family, community, state and nigeria as a whole, it will not be bad to say or conclude that u are less than an imbe,
sometimes i look at the number of comments on yar adua and compare it with comments on mikel. mikel is fast growing too popular that everybody wants to talk about him.
he has become too important to be ignored.
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by Dotman01(m): 10:28am On Apr 01, 2009
-FYI mikel has played under 4 different world class coaches at club level.
-Was he d only one dat didnt play very wel on sunday?
-Using 2 defensive mid fielders at a time doesnt nt mean u're goin to loose, essien nd makelele played 2geda.
-Avin d ability to defend nd attack is a big plus to a footballer.
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by Dotman01(m): 10:49am On Apr 01, 2009
@maitema look at u, u're brining club into dis, u sed tosin was defendin mikel cos of chelsea? Dat shows dat u're criticisin mikel because he's nt playin 4 d club u support.
@tbk417 u sed mikel's an slowpoke?
-He's d only naija player sure of playin in d CL every year.
-He's d only naija playa in d top 4 clubs in epl
-He's one of d highest paid naija currently.
Is dat ur definatn of an slowpoke? Dat means u do nt exist
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by tkb417(m): 12:36pm On Apr 01, 2009
@tbk417 u sed mikel's an slowpoke?
-He's d only naija player sure of playin in d CL every year.
-He's d only naija playa in d top 4 clubs in epl
-He's one of d highest paid naija currently.
Is dat ur definatn of an slowpoke? Dat means u do nt exist

cant u speak english to save ur life?
i dont argue with tadpoles. geddit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tkb417 ,
if mikel is an example of ur knowledge of slowpoke, please i will like to be one.
granted!!! ure hereby declared nairaland number 1 resident nincompoop grin

most of the commentators here calling mikel names represent regrets in their various homes.
commentators, regrets in thier homes? u need a home in yaba cos i cant pick ur point

it is funny when a two legged man who is created with no form of disabilities can do nothing but condem others.
have u for once asked urself why u are not playing or why is amodu not mentioning ur name.


are u naturally a retard? do u think everyone plays footie for a living? do u ask urself questions b4 posting?
or are u about to run amok cos u seem not to have any iota of sense

pls i do not mean insult, have u ever asked urself or even seat back one day to compare ur achievements with the so called slowpoke. if u have done that and confirm that the slowpoke in question has done more for himself, his family, community, state and nigeria as a whole, it will not be bad to say or conclude that u are less than an imbe,

i can safely conclude that ure one of the hopeless 9ja remaining on the surface of the earth. get the population reduced by commiting suicide or do sumfn cos 9ja dont need u. kill urself or sumfn

sometimes i look at the number of comments on yar adua and compare it with comments on mikel. mikel is fast growing too popular that everybody wants to talk about him.
he has become too important to be ignored
im sure they produce imbeciles in torrents in ur hood cos u sure cant comprehend simple flow of oyinbo

in ur clan, an slowpoke cannot be poor?
dont be in a hurry to make points cos if ure given a decade to defend ur asinine posts, u wont come back to make sense!

go play with some other retards cos im busy

and for others having difficulties in understanding the word slowpoke
an slowpoke is someone whos above the level of idiocy and whose IQ is between 25 and 50

ok u want synonyms
dolt
blockhead
idiot
stupid
dunce
asshole
retard like chidicrisis
nincompoop and etc

pick the one that suits you grin
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by dayokanu(m): 1:28pm On Apr 01, 2009
If people know they can birth imbeciles like Chidichris, Mindless, weed inspired, gutter side romps would be reduced
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by FBS: 1:48pm On Apr 01, 2009
na wa o. . .so many posts/threads on just one person?
were they playing any better without him or did anyone force amodu to use the guy in the match or any other matches for that matter?
if  you guys have qualms with the guy, take your case to NFF and stop having erections over him.
wtf!??
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by MAITEMA(m): 1:53pm On Apr 01, 2009
@ chidichris & Dotman 01, I assume that you are both sentimental because you are either Mikel sympathizers or Chelsea fans.

My problem with Mikel in my capacity as a staunch Nigerian football fan is that he is simply not ripe for our no. 10 position and that our coaches should play him as a defensive midfielder and draft a proper Palymaker/schemer to join him because he has deviated from what we saw in his junior days.

I dont hate him, as a matter of fact I know him. I had the opportunity to meet him during the FIFA u-21 in 2005 in Holland. I lost my voice chanting for the team most times and his mesmerizing display portended potentials. When we beat Morocco in the semis most of us survived grievous attacks from humiliated Moroccans and we proudly stood our grounds that night. When we lost the final I was sitting with Mummuni Alao (Complete football) and throughout the match we commended the boy, little wonder he seconded Lionel Messi as best player, little wonder Sir Alex and Chelski scrambled for his signature. Today can you compare Mikel to Messi? When Messi is being considered for World footballer of the year, Mikel is busy bagging red cards for awful tackles.

Back to my point, Mikel is far from the player the world envisaged him to become or better still he has developed into a very good defensive midfielder. Therefore Nigeria should use him as a defensive midfielder  and look for a natural replacement for Okocha. Maybe we should manage aged Kanu or even Oruma, Obodo until we find a real no. 10.

@ chidichris to your questions chronologically;

1. pls explain to me who a play maker is.
Answer: A playmaker is the man that brings in creative spark into his team, initiates attacking forays and wins important matches with moments of brilliance. Examples of players I consider such are Pele, Maradona, Michel Platini, Jay-Jay Okocha, Paul Scholes, Francesco Totti, Cesc Fabregas, Abedi Pele et al.

2. the last time nigeria won the african cup of nations, who was their play maker?
Answer: The last time we (Nigeria) won the Nations cup (Tunisia '94) Jay-Jay Okocha was our playmaker and we also had Thompson Oliha, who is capable and also played the role for the team.

3. is this topic about mikel's inabilities or amodu's?
My topic focused on Mikel because under such an abysmal performance by the Super Eagles the onus normally is on the playmaker to produce one or two class-acts to win the game for the team. Mikel was out of sorts for a “Playmaker” and busy doing his defensive thing.

4. did nigeria fail to do well in mozambique because mikel did not play well?
Answer: Same response as 3 above

5. from all posts here, mikel is not a good player, will it be right if i say mikel is either bribing all these coaches or using juju on them both at club levels and national team?
Answer: Mikel is a good player but has simply fallen below expectation as a Playmaker and metamorphosed into a great no. 4 (Oliseh) instead of becoming a Maradona he had potentials for.  You cannot expect Nigerians to accept less just because you are either sympathetic towards him or a Chelsea fan

6. what do u think is responsible for every commentator to talk about mikel at the end of every match including you?
Answer: If true as you have mentioned that every commentator talks about Mikel after a match, then it is simply because he mostly performs below expectation.

7. i will be happy to know who is the play maker of england at the moment.
Answer: I lived in England for a while and somewhat follow/support their National team (after Nigeria ). They suck!  and they have been so for many years. They couldn't even qualify for the last Euro Championship when all they had to do to qualify was draw against Croatia @ home. They lost!!! Do you know part of the reason they suck? Because in my opinion, they play Lampard & Gerrad (similar players) in their central midfield, no defensive/attacking balance. Also, they believe in established names rather than prospects. Capello is trying to change that and hasn’t even had his way on that.

8. what do you think is the problem of nigerian football - mikel?
Answer: I cannot ascertain the exact problem of Nigerian football but I hold that lack of leadership from a great player is part of it. A charismatic player that gives 100% every time and lifts morale when down. In the past we had leaders in the team like Keshi, Oliseh et al. Right now there isnt any in sight. Kanu should have taken that responsibility but he is too meek, although I respect him for his meekness and humility. Maybe if your Mikel was a world class playmaker by now he would have carried the team.

9. under normal circumstances, can't nigeria win in moputo even with 10 players?
Answer: NO simply because football has changed and they  are no more minnows. You cant expect Nigeria to beat Mozambique with 10 players simply because Nigeria is Nigeria and Mozambique is Mozambique.

10. is etim among ur list of successful players in nigeria? if yes, pls highlight his achievements.
Answer: I am not a fan of Etim Esin’s character but he was a great no. 10. If Mikel had half of his skills now, I (we) wont be complaining.

@ Dotman01, With all my heart I am not criticizing Mikel because I dont support Chelsea. I have met him and have a picture with him, Siasia and Ogbuke together in Holland. It is just that he has disappointed me or lets say Mourihno ruined him.

You are boasting that he is the only Nigerian sure of playing Champions league football and in the top 4 of English Premiership, but have you noticed that Hiddink has dropped him for Essien? Have you wondered why? I imagine its because Essien goes forward and has attacking instincts. Do you think it pleases me that Essien is benching Mikel? How many goals has Mikel scored in his Chelski career? I remember one "all body touch" goal. I dont even know if they awarded it in his name.
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by dayokanu(m): 2:23pm On Apr 01, 2009
@FBS,

Without him we won,
With him we couldnt
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by chidichris(m): 2:43pm On Apr 01, 2009
@ chidichris & Dotman 01, I assume that you are both sentimental because you are either Mikel sympathizers or Chelsea fans.

My problem with Mikel in my capacity as a staunch Nigerian football fan is that he is simply not ripe for our no. 10 position and that our coaches should play him as a defensive midfielder and draft a proper Palymaker/schemer to join him because he has deviated from what we saw in his junior days.

I dont hate him, as a matter of fact I know him. I had the opportunity to meet him during the FIFA u-21 in 2005 in Holland. I lost my voice chanting for the team most times and his mesmerizing display portended potentials. When we beat Morocco in the semis most of us survived grievous attacks from humiliated Moroccans and we proudly stood our grounds that night. When we lost the final I was sitting with Mummuni Alao (Complete football) and throughout the match we commended the boy, little wonder he seconded Lionel Messi as best player, little wonder Sir Alex and Chelski scrambled for his signature. Today can you compare Mikel to Messi? When Messi is being considered for World footballer of the year, Mikel is busy bagging red cards for awful tackles.

Back to my point, Mikel is far from the player the world envisaged him to become or better still he has developed into a very good defensive midfielder. Therefore Nigeria should use him as a defensive midfielder and look for a natural replacement for Okocha. Maybe we should manage aged Kanu or even Oruma, Obodo until we find a real no. 10.

@ chidichris to your questions chronologically;

1. A playmaker is the man that brings in create spark into his team, initiates attacking forays and wins important matches with moments of brilliance. Examples of players I consider such are Pele, Maradona, Michel Platini, Jay-Jay Okocha, Paul Scholes, Francesco Totti, Cesc Fabregas, Abedi Pele et al.

2. The last time Nigeria won the Nations cup (Tunisia '94) Jay-Jay Okocha was our playmaker and we also had Thompson Oliha, who is capable and also played the role for the team.

3. My topic focused on Mikel because under such an abysmal performance by the Super Eagles the onus normally is on the playmaker to produce one or two class-acts to win the game for the team. Mikel was out of sorts for a “Playmaker” and busy doing his defensive thing.

4. Same response as 3 above

5. Mikel is a good player but has simply fallen below expectation as a Playmaker and metamorphosed into a great no. 4 (Oliseh) instead of becoming a Maradona he had potentials for. You cannot expect Nigerians to accept less just because you are either sympathetic towards him or a Chelsea fan

6. If true as you have mentioned that every commentator talks about Mikel after a match, then it is simply because he mostly performs below expectation.

7. I lived in England for a while and somewhat follow/support their National team (after Nigeria ). They suck! and they have been so for many years. They couldn't even qualify for the last Euro Championship when all they had to do to qualify was draw against Croatia @ home. They lost!!! Do you know part of the reason they suck? Because in my opinion, they play Lampard & Gerrad (similar players) in their central midfield, no defensive/attacking balance. Also, they believe in established names rather than prospects. Capello is trying to change that and hasn’t even had his way on that.

8. I cannot ascertain the exact problem of Nigerian football but I hold that lack of leadership from a great player is part of it. A charismatic player that gives 100% every time and lifts morale when down. In the past we had leaders in the team like Keshi, Oliseh et al. Right now there isnt any in sight. Kanu should have taken that responsibility but he is too meek, although I respect him for his meekness and humility. Maybe if your Mikel was a world class playmaker by now he would have carried the team.

9. My answer is NO simply because football has changed and they are no more minnows. You cant expect Nigeria to beat Mozambique with 10 players simply because Nigeria is Nigeria and Mozambique is Mozambique.

10. I am not a fan of Etim Esin’s character but he was a great no. 10. If Mikel had half of his skills now, I (we) wont be complaining.

@ Dotman01, With all my heart I am not criticizing Mikel because I dont support Chelsea. I have met him and have a picture with him, Siasia and Ogbuke together in Holland. It is just that he has disappointed me or let say Morihno ruined him.

You are boasting that he is the only Nigerian sure of playing Champions league and in the top 4 of English Premiership, but have you noticed that Hiddink has dropped him for Essien? Have you wondered why? I imagine its because Essien goes forward and has attacking instincts. Do you think it pleases me that Essien is benching Mikel? How many goals has Mikel scored in his Chelski career? I remember one "all body touch" goal. I dont even know if they awarded it in his name.

@MAITEMA,
your response here sounds too good to be truth but they contradict the topic of this thread which calls for removal of mikel from the super eagles.
do u think with okocha or etim in the last match nigeria would have won?
whose role is it to choose playing position of a player?
were u aware that mikel have been sick and was not allowed to play that game by chelsea medics?
when did wright philips score his first chelsea goal?
how many cards have mikel gotten this season?
messi was silent in bacelona until ronaldinho's exit-true or false?
if u can say the truth here, did u expect mikel to have played the number of games he has so far played for chelsea?

mikel was not benched for essien rather he was sick that he could only train for 10 minutes hence he was not even on the sub list on the game against spurs.mikel at the moment is not sharing the same wing with essien rather he is on his own as esien is enjoying free role in chelsea now.

before the coming of mikel, nigeria has been playing football hence mikel not coming for a game can never be the problem of nigeria.
that mikel was sick and was forced to play 90 minutes is worth commending rather than condeming. if etim was a professional as he said, he shld know the implications forcing a sick player to remain on the picth for 90 mins.
is anyone talking about sam okwraji till now? the man who died playing for nigeria.
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by MAITEMA(m): 3:05pm On Apr 01, 2009
@ chidichris
Now you are shifting the goal post. My simple conclusion is that joining issues with you is a complete waste of time! You are biased, bigoted and your reasoning is beclouded.

That said, I have answered your initial questions as desired.
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by chidichris(m): 3:14pm On Apr 01, 2009
maitema,
am sorry if i disappoint u. u were out to convince me on how unsuper mikel is. it takes more than 10 questions and answers to convince me. pls do not get angry. just manage to answer my questions above and the few that i will ask afterwards.

in case u are switching off, pls confirm to me that mikel is the best player in nigeria at the moment.
in case u are still interested in convincing me, do let me know if u are still interested in taking another picture with mikel.
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by Meldrick(m): 3:23pm On Apr 01, 2009
@ CHIDICHRIS

I LOVE UR ANALYSIS. DON'T MIND THOSE MIKEL HATERS.

WAS MIKEL THE ONLY ONE ON THE PITCH? WAS HE THE ONLY ONE WHO DIDN'T PERFORM? SO BEACUSE MIKEL PLAYS FOR CHELSEA, HE MUST PERFORM MIRACLES.
@ MIKEL HATERS
GO AND PUT YOUR ANGER ON SOMEONE ELSE. WITHOUT MIKEL, NIGERIA WILL EXIST
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by MAITEMA(m): 4:29pm On Apr 01, 2009
@ chidichris

It is still within my capacity as originator of this thread to properly explain the "real" meaning of this topic: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us. Or better still I will put it in elementary English for you since that may make us understand each other. I mean Mikel is playing below par in the position he is playing for the National team, therefore it will be in our best interest to either draft him to defensive midfield or bench him.

Now to your questions:

Question: do u think with okocha or etim in the last match nigeria would have won?
Answer:  Yes an "Etim" or an "Okocha" would have made a difference in that match and most likely won it. If you follow football very well as I suspect you do, you will agree with me that the modern game of football is played in the middle of the pack and the cord (link up)from the midfield to the opponent's 18yard box is the life of the game and has to be controlled if you must win a football match. That is where football is played today! Little wonder wingers of the modern game (no. 7 & 11) 90% of the time drive-in from the wings rather than the orthodox crossing of the ball for a powerful no. 9 to finish as it was in the then days with wingers in the mould of Finidi, Elaho, Amuneke, Babangida et al. Instead it is the fullbacks (no. 2 & 3) that have taken over the role of the wingers and do the crossing when necessary. Back to the point, if there is no "Okocha" or an "Etim" in your team to pilot the midfield with a no. 4 as foil for them, then a football team has a 10% chance of winning games.

Question: whose role is it to choose playing position of a player?
Answer:  It is indeed the role of a coach to pick the players, and Amoudu naturally will play Mikel as Nigeria's playmaker because it is assumed that he can. My question is; when last did Mikel play in that position? Amoudu is technically and tactically inept as far as I am concerned. How can he comply with assumption? Just like England continually played Mihael Owen as top striker because on a good day in 2001 in Germany he destroyed the German Machine after his wonder goal against Argentina in France 98. For the records, I NEVER supported Amoudu's return as Eagles coach.

Question: were u aware that mikel have been sick and was not allowed to play that game by chelsea medics?
Answer: I do no know if Mikel was sick as I do not follow Chelski news. I wish him well.

Question: when did wright philips score his first chelsea goal?
Answer: Wright-Phillips should naturally have goals-drought in Chelski because Abramovich's billions lured him from a flourishing career with the Sky-Blues or Citizens (Man City). Against his father's wish he went to Chelski to play rugby-like football under Mourinho. The last time I checked he has started scoring for Man City again after doing the right thing by returning.

Question: how many cards have mikel gotten this season?
Answer: I know Mikel is now renowned for his woeful tackles in England and is always in the news for such and issues with refrees. As for the number of cards, count them and let me know.

Question: messi was silent in bacelona until ronaldinho's exit-true or false?
Answer: Messi has always been playing even when Ronaldinho was in Barca.

Question: if u can say the truth here, did u expect mikel to have played the number of games he has so far played for chelsea?
Answer: Yes I expected Mikel to have played the number of games he has played for Chelsea this season because he is a good defensive midfielder. I even prefer him to Essien in that position.

Question: mikel was not benched for essien rather he was sick that he could only train for 10 minutes hence he was not even on the sub list on the game against spurs.mikel at the moment is not sharing the same wing with essien rather he is on his own as esien is enjoying free role in chelsea now.
Answer: If Mikel's sickness was the reason for not playing against Spurs, then its just a matter of days for us non-Chelski fans to see that. When do you play Newcastle? Saturday or Sunday?

Question: is anyone talking about sam okwraji till now? the man who died playing for nigeria.
Answer: Sam Okwaraji is a National hero and was a great no. 10 nobody has forgotten him just like Cameroun still remembers Mac Vivien-Foe.

Question: pls confirm to me that mikel is the best player in nigeria at the moment.
Answer: I do not know your criteria for determining Nigeria's best player and personally will not pick Mikel ahead of 50% of what we manage to call Super Eagles today.

Question: do let me know if u are still interested in taking another picture with mikel.
Response: I took a picture with him, a co-player and his coach 4yrs ago because it seemed the proper thing to do at that time. I wonder why you are now making an issue of this.

Satisfied with my answers?
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by tosinaded(m): 5:46pm On Apr 01, 2009
All this story dan tire me i swear!
Mikel isnt our problem,our coach is.
They mikel is useless,yet he has played almost all games 4 chelsea,shielding the back four and giving them less work to do!
U think the coaches of chelsea are foolish?

@poster
u claim mikel bags red cards anyhow,i disagree with dat,how many has he gotn this season?
U claim his tackles are rough,thats the role he plays at chelsea! Av u seen mascherano tackle b4,did u see lukas against manutd? If u did,u wil agree with me dat mikel aint rough.

if our coaches are blind to see that mikel is a 4 and not a 10, that aint his fault,his job is to play the position he is given!

for the records,mikel has scored in two successive nations cup!
I remember he got the 1st goal for nigeria at the last nations cup where every1 was fumbling!
No1 remember's dat!
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by MAITEMA(m): 6:01pm On Apr 01, 2009
@ tosinaded

You are a nitwit. When you pass Elementary English comprehension, get back to read my thread and see that I agre that Mikel is a good defensive midfielder exactly where he plays for Chelsea.
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by tosinaded(m): 6:10pm On Apr 01, 2009
@poster
the average nairaland user can read,write and understand english language!
We re not fools ok.
Take a look at ur topic and tell me wut it implies!

"mikel obi is not a super eagle and using him will ruin us"

to d best of my knowledge of english,that title simply means mikel isnt good 4 d team and shldnt be playn 4 the team
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by Dotman01(m): 9:00pm On Apr 01, 2009
@maitema
1. Firstly, pls answer tosin's questn
2.u agreed dat mikel's a very gud defensive mid fielder dat shows dat he'snt d prob but amodu
3.okocha would av made a difference on sunday? Why didnt 9ja qualify 4 d last wc(okocha was there against angola)
4.again messi's an attacker/winger so we all kno he has d potentials to shine dan a defensive midfielder, so pls dnt compare messi wit mikel.
5. If u cant compare taiwo who was d 3rd best in d wyc wit mikel, i dnt see any reason why anyone shuld be comparin mikel wit messi.
6.rooney,ronaldo,viera also get redcarded 4 makin tackles, its nt a new thin in football.
7.lastly i didnt xpect anyone to single handedly pick mikel cos 9ja didnt play very well. Was he d only one dat didnt play very well.
8.martins lost a glarin one on one wit d goalkeeper nobody talk, was dat mikel's fault .
9. Our defenders could nt do dier job very wel on dat day, was dat mikel's fault also.
10. They win as a team, they draw as a team , dey loose as a team. Period.
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by chidichris(m): 9:11pm On Apr 01, 2009
@ chidichris

It is still within my capacity as originator of this thread to properly explain the "real" meaning of this topic: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us. Or better still I will put it in elementary English for you since that may make us understand each other. I mean Mikel is playing below par in the position he is playing for the National team, therefore it will be in our best interest to either draft him to defensive midfield or bench him.

Now to your questions:

1. Yes an "Etim" or an "Okocha" would have made a difference in that match and most likely won it. If you follow football very well as I suspect you do, you will agree with me that the modern game of football is played in the middle of the pack and the cord (link up)from the midfield to the opponent's 18yard box is the life of the game and has to be controlled if you must win a football match. That is where football is played today! Little wonder wingers of the modern game (no. 7 & 11) 90% of the time drive-in from the wings rather than the orthodox crossing of the ball for a powerful no. 9 to finish as it was in the then days with wingers in the mould of Finidi, Elaho, Amuneke, Babangida et al. Instead it is the fullbacks (no. 2 & 3) that have taken over the role of the wingers and do the crossing when necessary. Back to the point, if there is no "Okocha" or an "Etim" in your team to pilot the midfield with a no. 4 as foil for them, then a football team has a 10% chance of winning games.

2. It is indeed the role of a coach to pick the players, and Amoudu naturally will play Mikel as Nigeria's playmaker because it is assumed that he can. My question is; when last did Mikel play in that position? Amoudu is technically and tactically inept as far as I am concerned. How can he comply with assumption? Just like England continually played Mihael Owen as top striker because on a good day in 2001 in Germany he destroyed the German Machine after his wonder goal against Argentina in France 98. For the records, I NEVER supported Amoudu's return as Eagles coach.

3. I do no know if Mikel was sick as I do not follow Chelski news. I wish him well.

4. Wright-Phillips should naturally have goals-drought in Chelski because Abramovich's billions lured him from a flourishing career with the Sky-Blues or Citizens (Man City). Against his father's wish he went to Chelski to play rugby-like football under Mourinho. The last time I checked he has started scoring for Man City again after doing the right thing by returning.

4. I know Mikel is now renowned for his woeful tackles in England and is always in the news for such and issues with refrees. As for the number of cards, count them and let me know.

5. Messi has always been playing even when Ronaldinho was in Barca.

6. Yes I expected Mikel to have played the number of games he has played for Chelsea this season because he is a good defensive midfielder. I even prefer him to Essien in that position.

7. If Mikel's sickness was the reason for not playing against Spurs, then its just a matter of days for us non-Chelski fans to see that. When do you play Newcastle? Saturday or Sunday?

8. Sam Okwaraji is a National hero and was a great no. 10 nobody has forgotten him just like Cameroun still remembers Mac Vivien-Foe.

On your second post, I do not know your criteria for determining Nigeria's best player and personally will not pick Mikel ahead of 50% of what we manage to call Super Eagles today.

I took a picture with him, a co-player and his coach 4yrs ago because it seemed the proper thing to do at that time. I wonder why you are now making an issue of this.

Satisfied with my answers?

maitema,
despite our differences in understanding, i like u at least for having my time to explain things. the truth of the matter is that we may have someother things in our mind while our fingers type differently that is for those who type.
like i said before, all ur explanations are very different from your topic. with my own little understanding of english as a language, ur post is saying that mikel is the problem of nigerian football and continious using of mikel will ruin the country's football  but if inside u that is not what u intended saying, u can still right the wrong.

now if i may ask u, in which position did mikel play in the last game? how do u analyse a team with two defensive midfielders? who do u rate as the best player in nigeria presently? from ur answer as shown in no 2 above, do u still blame mikel or the coach for whatsoever disappointment nigeria had in maputo?

where was okocha when nigeria failed to go to world cup in germany? where was etim when nigeria refused to qualify for world cup in all his days as a footballer? do u know the importance of friendly matches for every team? how many of these friendly matches does nigeria organise for these boys? what do u expect from a team that never play together unless during a competetive match or do u blame mikel for not organising any?
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by FBS: 9:11pm On Apr 01, 2009
@dayokanu,
and you think he is the problem? did he impose himself on the team?
I've said it and will say it again, take your case to NFF.
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by Dotman01(m): 10:36pm On Apr 01, 2009
@Chidi e go beta 4 u, wit ur questns.
@maitema pls add his questns 2 ur list of answers.
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by Dotman01(m): 10:37pm On Apr 01, 2009
@Chidi e go beta 4 u, wit ur questns.
@maitema pls add his questns 2 ur list of answers.
Re: Mikel Obi Is Not A Super Eagle And Using Him Will Ruin Us by dayokanu(m): 5:01am On Apr 02, 2009
messi was silent in bacelona until ronaldinho's exit-true or false?

Messi was already a superstar before Ronaldinho left Barca so stop feeding us lies, He was 2nd and 3rd in European and FIFA award in 2007. Like I told you, You dont know anything about football just stick to licking Mikels scrotum cos thats your area of specialisation.

if u can say the truth here, did u expect mikel to have played the number of games he has so far played for chelsea?

Mikel only got much playing time because Essien was injured. Its so easy to see. Unless from an idiotic point of view you have. Would Diaby/Song get so much playing time if Fabregas was fit?

where was okocha when nigeria failed to go to world cup in germany? where was etim when nigeria refused to qualify for world cup in all his days as a footballer? do u know the importance of friendly matches for every team? how many of these friendly matches does nigeria organise for these boys? what do u expect from a team that never play together unless during a competetive match or do u blame mikel for not organising any?

Only someone suffering from down syndrome like chidichris would say something like this.

Okocha paid his due for the national team at his peak. So asking stupid questions about Okocha is simply senseless.
Nigeria played Jamaica recently and Colombia since your only sport is sucking Camels dciks in Dubai how would you know. All teams in Africa that have many pros hardly play together so Is it only Nigeria that gathers players 3 days to games?

What more can one expect from a retard like chidichris??

@FBS,

Mikel is the problem. one of Nigerias best team in recent times was at the Beijing Olympics where the players played with Speed and aggression and without MIKEL who only passes backwards and sideways.

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