I have thought about this for a while now and I am Finally signing off from this Okun Mopo exposure to Nairalanders https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-348021.0.html and probably will not come back to Nairaland again to expose people to any other hidden Land Treasures around Lagos that are cheap, affordable and legally sound. Its very difficult to swallow most of these wicked things posted here when i spent my money, sweat and blood to go deep into these places to find these places, negotiate favourable deals that would interest Nairalanders, go to Alausa for weeks to verify and confirm the documents till i was satisfied and still come back to Nairaland and be accused of being a fraudster and a person that scams people through fraudulent posts. It really really hurts. I never forced anyone to buy, rather i continue to preach that you must do your own investigation to reconfirm mine in case i missed something.

I agree i dont know any Nairalander and we are all in cyber space and entitled to write all sorts of rubbish we feel like but when a person has gone out of his way to help people that he doesnt know and you then stab that person at his back, then i guess it is always a clarion call to leave the scene quietly. There is a very big difference between criticisms and saying slanderous and libelous things to assasinate someone's character when you dont even know that person or attempted to verify that person or what he/ she is introducing to you.

I have always strived to be a perfectionist in what i do and be exemplary in all things. The first time i posted a detail exposure about Okun Ajah https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-325201.0.html , i made sure i did it differently by posting the documents and almost 30 pictures to show everyone what Okun Ajah is. Nobody on Nairaland properties has ever gone this far to be transparent to post pictures and show relevant documents to back it up but i did it, not for my own gain but for the benefit of Nairalanders.

I even stopped encouraging people to buy in Okun Ajah briefly because the owners were getting greedier and demanding more money because of the exposure i have given the place. If i was as greedy as them, i would have forcefully encouraged more Nairalanders to buy because of the commission i ought to have recieved from them but thats not the way i operate. I think of my fellow man first before myself and when Okun Ajah was going over board (Before they came back to their senses) i advised people to stay away and went out to look for a cheaper alternative with the same benefits only for me to find that one in Okun Mopo with the Help of 3 other Nairalanders and at the end of all the hard work we put into it, what do you get : Ingratitude and being called a scammer.

After learning the hard way, i will resort to the crude method of doing things in Nigeria and on Nairaland. This will be the last time in a very very long time Nairaland Properties will see something this detailed. If you want to buy your land please be ready to do the running around from the land you intend to buy, Down to Alausa, Down to the Omoniles, Down to the Solicitor and Surveyor. No more Freebies. All the free searches, pictures, detailed Information and documentation i put on Nairaland for Free costs thousands of Naira to get and research and i never asked for a single penny from anyone or demand fuel money from anyone because i believe Information is power but then again, i have learnt the hard way that Information in Nigeria is Money and i have been very very slow to learn that because i wanted to make a difference . So being a Moderator on The Property Forum, these are the few rules i will like to abide with for us to live peacefully from now on.

1.As a moderator, i will no longer spear head the campaign for pictures to be posted on Nairaland properties anymore and encourage posters to do like wise because at the end of the day, its only ridicule and malicious comments the owner of the post will recieve from Nairalanders. If you want to know where the place is, spend your money and go there yourself to investigate so that after you have been bled thoroughly dry by everyone involved in the land transaction you would know how excruciating it is for someone to get all the information you require without demanding a single Naira. So when an Agent says he has a property for sale in Lakowe, Mopo Ibeju, Owode Egba, Ijebu Gbo dont expect any Agent to provide pictures, documents and description to that place for you. Go and do your own search and dont expect it to be done freely anymore. You have to learn to pay for it since you want it and crave for more information so that you wont call it a fraud anymore or call the Agent a fraudster anymore .Hundreds of Nairalanders have called me out of the blues for land advice and Property consultation and i have done it for 85% of you freely without demanding a single cent because i dont want you to be defrauded by anyone claiming to be a land guru not knowing there would be a time when i would be tagged a scammer and fraud for helping people out. I can't count how many times i have gone to do searches for Nairalanders freely traveling from one state to the other or one extreme to the other without collecting a single Dime just to make sure Nairalanders are safe and happy they are purchasing something legal. Well i have learnt my lesson and every good thing must come to an end.

2. If you need any land information, please go to Alausa directly to get it. Dont expect it to flow freely on Nairaland anymore. Maybe because you have been spoon fed by me and some Property professionals on Nairaland, you have forgotten what it means to obtain the tiniest Information from Alausa or any Land Bureau Office of your state and how much you will spend and cost you to just know whether "Oga is on seat or not". At least i can save all my tips money and Alausa Contact money and use it to buy 1 block at a time for my Okun Ajah land. Funny enough, i just obtained the new Governor's consent Rules including the calculation for every area in lagos and Approved Building plan list from Alausa and i was planning to post it as usual for everyone's benefit. Thank God i have been put in my place and reminded what my role is on Nairaland. If you want it, you go to Alausa, struggle past the Bureaucracy and pay for it.

3. If you are looking for to know whether a property is free or has no wahala on it whether Omonile or Government problem on it, please by- pass most of us on Nairaland and most especially me and learn to wake up very early in the morning, drive in the thick traffic for hours, go hundreds of Kilometres whether it is Mowe/ofada or The depths Lekki/Epe to meet charms wielding and voodoo thinking people called Omoniles that want to sell another person's land to you and you must learn to follow up this visits 3 or 4 more times personally or better still hire a lawyer to do it for you and get ready to open your wallet deeply.

4. If your looking for the latest Information from Alausa in respect of new laws for the governor's consent, C/O or Approved Building plan, better learn to plant your own mole in Alausa to be giving you the latest update every second in exchange for a monthly salary. Nothing is free. Nairalanders has thought me that.

5. Due to my wide expose and travel in respect of property issues and matters especially in Lagos, whenever i used see a property being advised on Nairaland that has K-Leg, i will immediately remove it, advise against it or caution the poster and buyer about the potential harzards of that property either because of its inherent legal problems, Document wahala or Omonile issues but from now own, its operation siddon look. Your free to buy whatever you want, its not my business to tell you the problem even if i see its so dangerous that venturing into it is potentially finacially dangerous. I have learnt to shut my mouth effectively. I dont want any wahala anymore.

They say in Life you don't appreciate something until you lose it and start paying for it and honestly Nairaland Property has just lost me. I am only going to do my job as a Property moderator only which is to update topics and moderate comments and nothing more. Its Operation Siddon Look from now on and it has been a pleasure meeting some of you on a personal level and i hope during that time i have always remained honest, loyal and helpful whenever you needed me.

I now know why alot of People Give up helping people and on Nigeria!

No #1 problem in hindering advancement and growth whether in a business or in a country's development is

The LACK OF TRUST. We seem to trust foreigners than we do ourselves.

@lawyer

Oga no do that o na fight, it true Information is: “knowledge gained through study, communication, research, instruction, etc.; factual data”. You probably don’t know majority on these forum, but some as benefited either directly or indirectly from your well presented findings. Nobody said information has to be free, on this side of the ocean people pay heavily for what you dispense here freely; perhaps you should have a website and charge consultation fee (be an infoprenuer).

You should know even if you stand by babatunde fashola, sign document, show on TV, radio people will still rubbish and doubt it. I guess that’s what makes the rich different to others the ability to take opportunity when it presents itself. Yes we have some bad eggs in our society, but show me the society that is 100% perfect and I’ll move there right away. So for the few who still believe there honest people in 9ja find a way to communicate new opportunities.

Regards

@ Lawyer, I must say, am dissappointed in you that you could consider the doing the above, even though I haven't not had a dealings with you, was of a firm belief that when am ready to do any property related transactions in lagos you would be my contact, and i believe other people share these thoughts as well, why, because I like the informative approach you have followed, as your approach being different makes you stand out, and it will be a shame if you go back on the change you have started, because of a few knocks, Also I expect those who had dealt with you to come out as state their opinions against the naysayers as they saying goes that evil men thrives when the good one keep quiet,

Dont give up,

I agree with everything you said. I rarely post on the property section but I read it a lot and understand that you have not taken this decision lightly. I experience the same issues you mentioned in my field to. Maybe not as extreme but I have an idea what you have gone through. There is a lot of money in property. Where there's money, there are thugs. And in Nigeria they'll do everything to crush someone like you.

What I would say is not to give up. Take some time out. There is still a lot of value you can give. Maybe you should reassess how you do it so you don't become a martyr. You can still do the good work but maybe now you will do it more on your own terms.

Whatever decision you make, thank you for the good work you have put in so far. But don't give up because it means the others have succeeded in there goal. Which is to silence people like you.

All the best.

@Lawyer,

Maybe I am also a bit disappointed that you are taking this decision. From the very first time I read your posts here on Nairaland, I knew you are different. You are a selfless person and that is easy to see in your postings. The truth is you find fulfilment in being who you are. Don't force yourself to be who you are not.

I am not too sure you remember me. I wanted some information about registering a company and all that a while ago and we exchanged some mails. I was amazed at the extent to which a person can go to satisfy someone he never knew without asking for a dime, just by meeting on the web, even though I don't reside in Lagos. I concluded within me that there is hope for this country with such selfless people still around.

I am not too sure you came to Nairaland in the first place because you want adulation from people. More like you want to be of service. Why then would you allow the opinions of a few to discourage you from doing what you want to do? A lot of people must have learnt one or two things from your sound and informative posts in Nairaland Properties, yours truly inclusive. That they are not coming out to say that should not deter you. You cannot please everybody. It's not possible.

Have a rethink and be yourself. Someone suggests you open a website and make money from the wealth of information you possess. Why not? But on top of that, don't forget to still be of service to people. If you consider the opposition you will end up not doing most things in life.

Cheers.

@lawyer

I was a bit amazed at your earlier outburst because I did not expect you to take every comment made here to heart. I am not sure you visit other sections of NL to see how people exchange insults like they are ready to tear each other apart. It has sadly become the NL norm.

I think I now empathize with you after reading about all you go through to get all this information that we receive from you. No man will go through all that and not be upset with all the negative comments.

I am sure you expected people to grap the Okun Mopo as the great opportunity that it is, I am sure some people already did that, those are your own people, run with them, they trust you, give them the best you have to offer,
maintain that relationship and forget about others. Stop trying to please or convince everyone  if you do not want to get old before your time!

As for me, I am glad I met you, I will call you as regularly as I like and I am sure we will still do some great stuff together.

Lawyer

I agree with Shinatu, do not let their comments bother you and thanks for all your effort, will be in touch when i'm home in December.

@ lawyer, i feel you. if you are who i think you are, selfless with a good heart then you are bound to be hurt. i once offered free computer training and people were skeptical, it was amazing that people expect everyone to be bad. i tell you there are so many aggressive people here on nairaland that it amazes me what to expect in future in nigeria.

However, please do your best and leave the rest. Sometimes our best is not good enough, then its time to take a bow.

Oga Lawyer,

It's a pity that some pple will call you scam & all sorts of names for all your good deeds. A lot of us have benefited grately from your well research commemts in the past.

On a personal note, I own the house I recently moved into to your credit & advise. In case you have forgotten, remember I solicited your assistance in selling my property in Ikorodu sometime last year. We had a meeting in my office in Ilupeju, you went to Ikorodu & saw the property & did other search concerning it without asking for a dime from me. At the end, you advice that I should either complete it & move in or hold on to it as you forsee a boom in Ikorodu property prices soon. Initially, I thought you were not interested in selling the property but later I saw the sense in your position.

In April this year, my Landlady in Surulere came up with all sorts of stories to kick us (tenants) out. After an initial search for another place in Surulere, I remembered your advise & promptly pump my cash into finishing my Ikorodu place instead of paying the ridiculous rents that I was offered for a new place that will run out in no time. I move into my place 31st Oct 2009 & you can't imagine the peace I have enjoyed in the last 2 weeks.

Also about 2 months ago I called you again to assist a friend in Dangote that want to sell his property in Sango Ota, you promptly swung into action by reaching out to your contact there (since Ota was outside your jurisdiction) to assist. I later saw pictures of the property on nairaland for sales & my friend is almost sealing the deal.

I am sure there are many of these kind of testimonies of your immerse assistance without enjoying any economic gains among nairalanders.

Good deeds will always outshine evil ones.

I am still trying to settle down but be rest assured that I will be inviting you soon to my place for a drink because I appreciate what you did for me & still want more, lol.

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!!

Saying BUYERS BEWARE has never hurt anyone who is not too proud. If you read well, all you would have seen is BUYERS BEWARE.

You have a bloated opinion of yourself and that is the problem. I think you don't bother reading other sections of NL or insults won't hurt you the way you claim it did. You may have many enemies on NL but many of us are not your enemies.

The matter would not have gotten out of hand the way it did if you had not started badmouthing people and even offering dictionary definitions of the insults you were dishing out.

You made jest of out fears, not realising how much some of suffered over land and how cautious we have become.  You can choose to trim down your pride especially when dealing with people who don't know you well or burst yourself in your anger like the proverbial cricket roasting over fire.

Sweeten your speech with sugar while selling, I also have stuff I sell but I have learnt to let the customer exhaust all his worry and fears and then give every assurance rather than cut him off halfway with abuses.

Change a bit and leave off a little of your pride.

I will rebuke anyone who is about to make our lawyer go into hybernation because of some ill bred set of people on Nairaland. This is a young man i have met and i am extremely honored to say i know him and i am proud of knowing one of the few Nigerians i can point to as a reasonable honest man and extremely helpful without having the aura of demanding money for what he does. The truth is that he genuinely loves to help people and i am a living witness.

At first glance its puzzling to understand why Lawyer would want to behave like this all of a sudden because of a few crazy people but then again when you look at the kind of things that have been said against this Young Man's reputation that has been helping thousands of Nigerians world wide unknowingly, you will realise that its only Inhuman people that won't feel bad and un appreciated with these kind of posts.

I went to the Okun Mopo post that is the genesis of this bad blood and its not hard to find the reasons. Here are a couple of things said about Lawyer and the post.

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« #20 on: November 07, 2009, 03:42 PM »

Lawyer and some handful of people are about the only people who can post their adverts on nairaland.
I dont know why people who have better and much reasonable offers adverts are pushed down the debris.
It makes me wonder where is the love in this country if someone as educated as whoever moderates the property section allows people to advertise crap like old naira notes to post their properties yet hide invaluable information posted from established real estate agents like myself.
I have heard several complaints. I could only say: nairaland is owned by people from Ogun state. They are all the same. Hateful scums.

Can you believe a rational Human being wrote this?

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« #26 on: November 07, 2009, 06:30 PM »

My advice is that this advert should be presumed as fraudulent until proven otherwise; I am not being cynical, just keeping it real. We all know how things roll in Nigeria.

How he came to the conclusion that the post is fraudulent without visiting it or investigating it is only left for aliens to comprehend

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@poster
Am sure you are posting this info. in good faith. However, i heard from a reliable source that there are problems at OKUN MOPO. I heard the families (Land Owners) are fighting over the said area. This is from one of the people mitigating the issue.

I like the question lawyer asked him to show proof of the family that was fighting which the poster conviently ignored Our people can be something else atimes to just rubbish people for no just reason or cause

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« #42 on: November 08, 2009, 01:28 PM »

Fraud. 419. Na today? E don te my brothers and sisters. @ original poster, no vex but as Baba 70 talk, dis na case of dead body jam accident. To all Nairalanders, do not be greedy and deceived by SCAMMERS on this website. You will simply lose your money to these fraudsters who keep popping up promising "urgent deals" and "awoof land". Nothing in life is "awoof". Grin CAVEAT EMPTOR a.k.a Shine Your Eyes Well Well!!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked

Now what would cause such a very unguarded statement towards someone you dont know?

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Just noticed that all the people in the so called "pictures" are either facing away from camera or the camera shot is so distant that you cannot make out their faces. Classic fraud tactics. Grin. Haba Allah, Haba Allah and dem go dey do bad bad things. Through Jesus Christ our Lord, Amen, Amen, Amen, by the Grace of Almighty Lord, Amen, Amen, Amen. I say I waka waka waka, I go many places, I see see see!!! Shocked Shocked Ogbeni Lawyer, as I don talk before and many others have said, this scheme you dey try sell to awon boys and girls is FRAUDULENT!!! For AJ City na dis kind thing we dey call, CAVEAT EMPTOR!

Why wont your blood boil at such statements for no just cause

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« #64 on: November 08, 2009, 10:56 PM »

Lawyer, even the legendary Bernie Madoff had people begging, pleading and doing back somersaults to invest in his FRAUDULENT schemes. You sound like a nice guy but no be nice guy we go chop. Omo Onile is a huge problem in Lagos and stop pretending it is not. Peoples lives have been threatened and some people have been killed ontop dis Omo Onile wahala. Like Madam L, I have nothing personal against you but please speak the truth. The best land to buy is Government issued land. All this story of cheap Omo Onile land is FRAUD!!! Again I repeat to fellow Nairalanders, CAVEAT EMPTOR (Buyer beware). Recession dey bite people yansh everywhere, hustlers dey come with new tricks every day!!! Shocked Shocked

Honestly, who wont feel betrayed and unappreciated after such comments when for starters since Lawyer has been on Nairaland, the only thing he has done is help, educate and enrich people's lives? One poster even compared him to Bernie Madooff For a better understanding of this, i will implore people to go and view the thread that caused all this and see whether it is really fair to condemn him like this when he hasnt hurt anyone but rather tried to better the lives of some people? This is quite sad.



@madam L

I have read the posts thoroughly and i dont see where he insulted anybody talkless of you before you began to attack him. Or is the new English he taught you scuttle butt that is upsetting you Please go and buy your own dictionary because he refused to use simple English like rumours or gossiping, you decided to turn it into rough

See madam, i am his number one fan because of what he did for me in getting my land in Ogombo that i am building happily. I lost a lot of money trying to secure a land to live in until i met this man and a day doesnt go by without me saying a quiet prayer for him. You cannot enjoy peace until you have met peace and Lawyer is Peace. I hardly post anything on Nairaland but i will come out as a hound dog against anyone who has something evil to say about this man without them providing proof. They say Evil persist when good men keep quiet and i know so many people this man has impacted their lives positively will never allow people like you destroy the one good thing we enjoy on Nairaland.

Please lawyer come back or else i will come and drag you away from that your office and expose you. There is no hiding place for a gold fish!

@ marmaduke,

Could not have said it any better.

Oga Lawyer,

Your anger is very well justified. Those of us that know and trust you do appreciate your help for us. Due to the level of trust I have for you, I have bought quite some things through you, still buying, and will continue to buy as long as God provides the money. Unfortunately, your post was read by mixed multitude and has similarity with the parable of the sower in the bible   I have met and still meeting Lawyers in my line of business ( this you know),  but you are an exception ( sorry I'm saying this here). You've greatly impacted my life positively, and I do not cease to pray for you. Please, like Marmaduke said, do not abandon us to no one.  Allow your temper to cool down. I recommend you take your  towel and lounge chair to Okun-Ajah or Okun Mopo beach relax, enjoy the beach, breath-in the fresh air, I promise you'll feel better. We'll be waiting here for your next expose of hidden treasure. Hybernation ke? Our own Lawyer? I reject such bad news on this forum

[b]@Lawyer

I hope you're doing well my friend, present state of affairs notwithstanding. I have always known that a day will come when your good deeds will be punished. So, here we are, very unfortunate. But this is the comical law of nature, albeit unfair. PEOPLE ONLY VALUE WHAT THEY PAY FOR, OR SUFFERED TO GET. "You do not take what is meant for kings and give to dogs". NL unfortunately, comprises of the good, the bad and the ugly. It also houses a number of scallywags and scumbags. So, pay them no mind my good friend. My advice to you is this; Create a real estate blog, just like Mr. Omion (I'm sure you're aware of him in this forum) where you'll write down briefs of all the opportunities you come across, and if anyone like it and need details, then CHARGE them a fee (for consultancy, retainership etc). When you do this, you'll then attract only serious minded people to your blog rather than dealing with some of these unsavoury elements prowling a well intended, but unfortunately FREE forum like NL. Mr. Seun should also think of charging membership fee for belonging to NL, I believe this will also help weed out some of these undesirables on NL. Just my 2 cents![/b]

This is amongst the most mature threads---i've seen on NL in a loong time---- 

well thought out responses---and feedback

Marmaduke, no one is out to destroy your lawyer but anyone who dishes out insults and is not able to endure some of it is immature. Like someone pointed out here, he was dealing with a mixed multitude and not all of us are aware of his much touted goodness. In Nigeria, the norm, if you value your money, is to be very cautious.

Lawyer ought to know that and so not type big words of abuse when people were just doing no harm by saying shine your eyes. Your lawyer seems to be under the impression he is such a big NL shot that we all know him and are ready to worship at his altar of touted honesty. That is very far from the truth except for those who only check the property threads.

He can choose to be very polite and tolerant if he wants to post for everyone in NL or restrict it to where only his fan club members can see his treasures and snap them up. I have had cause to place a call to one of the property people on NL.

For lawyer, I can only repeat that he learns tolerance or develops a thick skin. If not, he will only find solace in dealing with just the people fawning and praising him as if he is the best thing to happen to this world. He can choose to broaden his horizon by becoming more accommodating or allow the people praising him to high heavens to limit his reach. I repeat, nothing personal against him.

Oga Lawyer,

I have paid attention to some of your write ups especially the Okun Aja and Okun Mopo land. I wouldn't buy those lands but for other reasons that does not have to do with your integrity. I believe that I understand your temperament some bit to conclude that your decision is one big mistake you should avoid, at least for your sake.

(1) You cannot triumph if you run from little issues like name calling and wrong accusations. Fire does not destroy gold, only purifies it!
(2) Does comments change the nature of scorpion? No! Scorpion must sting.
(3) Can you keep somebody down without staying down with him? Don't think so. Are you willing to throw away the follower ship you've built and still building?

Your decision will hurt you more than the people you are trying to help.

I wish you luck.

lawyer cool down, the internet is a worldwide community and in this community you must have various people with different views that differ from yours that is society. so Big up, and dont be-little your self and run, stick around you assist people more than u know.

madam L:

Marmaduke, no one is out to destroy your lawyer but anyone who dishes out insults and is not able to endure some of it is immature. Like someone pointed out here, he was dealing with a mixed multitude and not all of us are aware of his much touted goodness. In Nigeria, the norm, if you value your money, is to be very cautious.

Lawyer ought to know that and so not type big words of abuse when people were just doing no harm by saying shine your eyes. Your lawyer seems to be under the impression he is such a big NL shot that we all know him and are ready to worship at his altar of touted honesty. That is very far from the truth except for those who only check the property threads.

He can choose to be very polite and tolerant if he wants to post for everyone in NL or restrict it to where only his fan club members can see his treasures and snap them up. I have had cause to place a call to one of the property people on NL.

For lawyer, I can only repeat that he learns tolerance or develops a thick skin. If not, he will only find solace in dealing with just the people fawning and praising him as if he is the best thing to happen to this world. He can choose to broaden his horizon by becoming more accommodating or allow the people praising him to high heavens to limited his reach. I repeat, nothing personal against him.

Madam L,

I truly appreciate your advice to Lawyer but I do not understand this parts.
Is it a crime to praise someone for a good deed he has done for you when the situation arises? I observed that almost everyone who praised Lawyer mentioned a specific thing that he did to warant such a praise.

or are you one of those who believe that praising someone for a good deed is not needed so as not to make the person's 'head to swell' unnecessarily? (I could infer that from your post)

My dear Shinatu, I was only saying lawyer forgot that some of us didn't know him before the post. Maybe he is a top shot but I never encountered him before the post. He assumed we all know him and his touted good works.

I didn't say they should not praise him. I am only saying in the last part that if he wants to sell to a larger audience he has to realise that new people sign up daily and so he must have to convince them too. If he is not adviced to show tolerance and patience, he will always have this type of problem since a typical Nigerian greets any money story with suspicion.

I run a biz in which I sell everyday and I know what I take at the hands of customers but that is not enough to pack up and leave. My skin is as thick as that of an elephant now. I don't quite enjoy the hassles but I have learnt to live with them and reach out to even more customers.

The problem is that those his fans are not allowing him to concentrate. That area of town he is selling is a big risk. I truly bought and lost three plots there. Another friend lost ten cool plots. She sold her plots at Crown Estate to pay for the ten. Another lost his own land plus they knocked down a house he had already started building.

Lawyer asked me to name the family and all that but I decided not to when I saw where he implied I must have done something wrong to make them take back the land. That was too annoying. I knew he and his fans will never believe me and will only use the information to abuse me even more since they have already decided I lost the plots due to my stupidity.

Enough said on my part about this matter. Lawyer can decide to win the rest of us or sell to his fans. A lot of new entrants to NL are big buyers and this is an anonymous location so you never can tell who you are addressing and his or her purchasing power. I think he has to know the site is growing and NL is attracting top shots who he can catch with more patience. Me, I am off to my own dear wahala customers.

madam L:

My dear Shinatu, I was only saying lawyer forgot that some of us didn't know him before the post. Maybe he is a top shot but I never encountered him before the post. He assumed we all know him and his touted good works.

I didn't say they should not praise him. I am only saying in the last part that if he wants to sell to a larger audience he has to realise that new people sign up daily and so he must have to convince them too. If he is not adviced to show tolerance and patience, he will always have this type of problem since a typical Nigerian greets any money story with suspicion.

I run a biz in which I sell everyday and I know what I take at the hands of customers but that is not enough to pack up and leave. My skin is as thick as that of an elephant now. I don't quite enjoy the hassles but I have learnt to live with them and reach out to even more customers.

The problem is that those his fans are not allowing him to concentrate. That area of town he is selling is a big risk. I truly bought and lost three plots there. Another friend lost ten cool plots. She sold her plots at Crown Estate to pay for the ten. Another lost his own land plus they knocked down a house he had already started building.

Lawyer asked me to name the family and all that but I decided not to when I saw where he implied I must have done something wrong to make them take back the land. That was too annoying. I knew he and his fans will never believe me and will only use the information to abuse me even more since they have already decided I lost the plots due to my stupidity.

Enough said on my part about this matter. Lawyer can decide to win the rest of us or sell to his fans. A lot of new entrants to NL are big buyers and this is an anonymous location so you never can tell who you are addressing and his or her purchasing power. I think he has to know the site is growing and NL is attracting top shots who he can catch with more patience. Me, I am off to my own dear wahala customers.

O.K, I get you now.

@madam L,

Quite on the contrary!  Lawyer has been an epitome of patience and tolerance on Nairaland all the while before the insults started coming in because of the Okun Mopo saga. 

What I expected any newbie just coming in to do was to find out a little of who he was before hurling out insults on his person.  That wouldn't have been too difficult to do.  Mere check of his previous posts would have answered their queries.

He has been the one warning buyers to beware before they commit themselves to any property sale by investigating properly.  He championed the introduction of pictures to adverts in that bid to at least confirm the genuineness of such properties, even when other agents were not happy about it.  Moreso, he always told readers to do their investigation.  He provided information that people don't give out freely without charging a dime for it.  The kind of patience he has in attending to various questions repeatedly on NL is amazing.  This was before he was even made the moderator of the property section.  I am sure it was because of his positive influence that he was made a moderator.

I will say it's not civil for people to call someone a fraudster and scammer who they haven't met nor done any business with, nor even cared enough to check his antecedents on NL.  It's okay to warn readers, but very unneccesary to hurl insults, especially when it cannot be substantiated. While I understand your concerns, I think it's a bit too hasty for him to be so crucified.

Nothing personal. Just my opinion. Peace to all.

@ Madam L

Naturally, it is always good to analyse things from both sides of the argument before you pass judgement so i have taken pains to analyse the posts of lawyer and the offensive comments from other people and i can see you personally have a vendatta against lawyer with your comments. It is obvious since lawyer abandoned Nairaland , you have been the only one bashing and battering lawyer ceaselessly even though he hasn't come back to to argue with you and i bet for everytime he is being pressured by people who love him on Nairaland, seeing your unkind and nasty criticisms against him is enough to make him recoil into his shell as you so put it. For the avoidance of doubt, i will show you the nasty things you keep on refering to when he hasnt offended you that much for me to know that you have taken it personal with him contrary to your denials.

You have a bloated opinion of yourself and that is the problem

Was this necessary? Bloated Opinion? And your crying lawyer insulted you while you know how to deliever a worse punch below the belt

The matter would not have gotten out of hand the way it did if you had not started badmouthing people and even offering dictionary definitions of the insults you were dishing out.

What insult because i have run through the article again and all i can see is a man in pain for saying things that are untrue and warning people against rumours and gossips and teaching me a new word i might add (Scuttlebutts) which literary means rumours and if you assume words like that mean insults to you then you are more than hilarious

You made jest of out fears, not realising how much some of suffered over land and how cautious we have become. You can choose to trim down your pride especially when dealing with people who don't know you well or burst yourself in your anger like the proverbial cricket roasting over fire.

What jest? When did go and do your own personal investigation turn into a jest? And besides when did the Article post become a post to debate how you lost your own land. I read the questions he threw to you but you didnt answer them and maybe you were expecting him to sympathize with you hence your caustic remarks and criticisms of lawyer. Your quite an Odd woman tbh I am not a property person but never have i seen a more detailed advertisement including pictures and all questions answered than that article and still yet, you chose to attack, attack and attack him because you said he insulted you Madam na wah for you o!

We thought you have finished and here you continued again this time exchanging tirades with marmaduke:

Marmaduke, no one is out to destroy your lawyer but anyone who dishes out insults and is not able to endure some of it is immature.

I think i would really like to know the precise insults he said to you personally that is making your blood cringe because it shows you have something personal against this man. Its funny how no one else on this forum has said lawyer insulted them but only you carrying it on your head. This shows it is a personal grudge against him.

Lawyer ought to know that and so not type big words of abuse when people were just doing no harm by saying shine your eyes. Your lawyer seems to be under the impression he is such a big NL shot that we all know him and are ready to worship at his altar of touted honesty

This comment is just below the belt in my own opinion and very very uncalled for. Your extending your insults to the other Nairaland posters who appreciate him and your here saying he is under the impression that he is such a big shot whereby i have gone through your own posts, and i havent seen anything there to make people want to fawn over you or that you have educated anybody on any issue that is earth shattering. Your just out to continue belittling him and honestly your the one pouring out the insults so far and the one been very immature .

The problem is that those his fans are not allowing him to concentrate. That area of town he is selling is a big risk. I truly bought and lost three plots there. Another friend lost ten cool plots. She sold her plots at Crown Estate to pay for the ten. Another lost his own land plus they knocked down a house he had already started building.

Lawyer asked me to name the family and all that but I decided not to when I saw where he implied I must have done something wrong to make them take back the land. That was too annoying. I knew he and his fans will never believe me and will only use the information to abuse me even more since they have already decided I lost the plots due to my stupidity.

You made an allegation in the previous post and lawyer if i can recall correctly challenged you to provide evidence and because he said you must have done something wrong, you got annoyed. What is so hard in clarifying how they took your lands there and what family did it according to lawyer? At least you were bold enough to post it that someone / somepeople took your lands and you still dont want to show who did it and your afraid Nairalanders will abuse you due to your own stupidity? I find that hard to believe that Nairaland posters will not abuse you due to your stupidity since you refused to clarify your allegations but rather hiding under the shadow of being afraid of being abused.

Some thick skin you got there

The point i am trying to make is that, you dont go about badgering and bludgeoning people ceaselessly to prove a point. I dont know lawyer from anywhere and i rarely visit the property section but i take more interest in the business section where is has been so outstanding to many people requiring information about company formation and doing it for free and seeing someone attacking him ceaselessly trying to prove a point boils my heart especially when he is not here to defend himself is truely annoying. So far so good, alot of people have been praising him for his good works and i am sure he earned it not because he had an over bloated ego of himself as you so cruelly put it but because of his selflessness. I am sure he acknowledges his mistakes atimes because no one is perfect but when you continue to hammer and hammer a person who has ignored both you and the people he has been serving selflessly for a long time, then We know it is not only personal but something deeper and its you that should check your pride and let it go. There are no winners but losers because i doubt if you are ready to step up and continue from where lawyer stopped by providing all these enriching articles for everyone to devour free of charge and if your not going to do it, please, dont put sand in our garri and prevent the good things that we have been enjoying until you came into the picture.

My own is the business blogs and i will be extremely pissed if i dont get my business company formation updates due to you and your unnecessary badering of lawyer. Just let it go and ignore both lawyer and the business and property section. We stand to lose more not having lawyer around than not having you around. There is even no basis for the comparison between you and lawyer. Its a total Landslide. Just free the man abeg

Analytical & Jaguda bob, thanks for saying exactly what I was thinking. I am a passive Nairalander and sometimes visit the Property session to keep abreast of property development in Lagos. I decided to write because having read the thread on Okun Mopo from beginning to end, I don't get where Madam L is coming from at all.

I think Madam L is very out of order in this matter and must have a personal vendetta against Lawyer, otherwise she would have cooled down by now. It is ok to criticise others, but her criticisms/posts seem tinged with malice and a bit over the top for some one who claims to be a newbie to the Property thread.

I have been very informed and educated on property issues by Lawyer's posts till date and very impressed by the depth of information he had presented in various threads. It is a great loss if people like Madam L succeed in the quest to silence Lawyer.

Madam we ask you to please desist from fermenting trouble, criticise if you must, be keep it constructive!!

uhmmmmm, very interesting. as much i wld also have luvd not to comment, i think i need put some words dwn here and may be peeps wld open their eyes moreeeee!

i am a regular visitor on nairaland and my areas are music, autos and politics but regularly visits property section cos of the informative analysis of lawyer. it is thus very bad when vicious attacks are launched against a person you have no proof of wrongdoing against. it is just very unfortunate that envy runs in the veins of some like an overflowing public tap.

madam L to me deserve to be ignored and let her keep crying to the world hw she lost land and her friend lost 10 plots as if we also care? why cant she swallow her pride too and put it in open what actually transpired? i guess as others have deemed, fear of exposing her height of stupidity cant allow her do that. i cant count in the number of sentences lawyer has written ''i suggest you go down there and do your investigations too'' or ''always see what you are buying''. all those accusing lawyer are just bunch of agents who cant brandish documentations to support what they are selling, low-life commission agents.

as i said earlier, i'v never had contact with lawyer but he has been very helpful, if lawyer gets to read this then he'l knw what i'm talking about - this is what he did

a colleague in the office got a land at ogombo from someone who had bought the land and there's been issues about getting it documented and so on, i gave him lawyers number and asked him explain it was given to him by a friend who visits nairaland. they spoke for over 30minutes with lawyer explaining well what he needs to do, which family he should see and who to speak with. this has been helpful as a lot of touting agnets had suggested series of time and money wasting schemes of getting documentation via the back yard. that was enuf for me to knw lawyer really was conversant with the families in all the lekki axis. if lawyer can remember a bamidele who called him over an ogombo land he bought from his sisters friend and certification issues in getting the document registered in his own name, it was me that gave him your number and we really appreciate your free advise, we would hv paid for. its going well now and my colleague has a direction on what to do.

please keep up your good work you never knw how manyt people pray and bless you daily or how many you have saved from dupes.

i'm sure madam L is suffering from the pain of not knwoing you before getting her fingers burnt! i dont she's worth anymore replies sef. just focus on what you doing and as usual, keep emphasising your ''buyer beware phrase'' and you have done. a lot of people visiting NL have eyes to read and are not the madam L category of people who would skip those paragraphs and jump on the bad wagon of castigating other peoples good work. why has she not vented her misplaced anger on other obviously suspicious posts of marabouts commission agents on NL selling property they dont even knw location or knw the status of documentation.

abeg make all the bad belle waka pass jare!

Shuo, don't tell me i am the one who needs reading goggles cos except some posts have been deleted, where are the posts insulting Lawyer!!! Apart from the guy Showbobo told off for being incoherent and Roforofo who is having a dig at the omo oniles, who exactly out of the remaining posters with a slight dissenting opinion to Lawyer: namely cvibe, leye and Madam L, abused him? ON A MOBILE DEVICE, WOULD BE BACK later.

@Busy_body


Marmaduke and Jaguda_bob gave a break down in their posts above, you may want to check their posts

@busybody

Personally, haven gone through your posts especially with your previous wranglings with Lawyer, i have come to a conclusion that you have a massive crush on Lawyer. There is no time you would see any Controversial Topic on The property Forum without you having a go at Lawyer. Me thinks you want to have his baby

Anyway that aside, i think you really need googles as thick as Gulder bottles to read the nonsense some people have written castigating Lawyer and i doubt if it was you that was being called Fraudulent especially when your helping people that you will feel happy. You refer to Roforofo having a dig at only Omoniles right? Lets see if you really need those Googles are you so demanded:

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Re: Okun Mopo:Another Nairaland Lekki BeachView Hidden Treasure that is Bloody C
« #57 on: November 08, 2009, 07:43 PM »

Just noticed that all the people in the so called "pictures" are either facing away from camera or the camera shot is so distant that you cannot make out their faces[size=14pt]. Classic fraud tactics[/size]. Grin. Haba Allah, Haba Allah and dem go dey do bad bad things. Through Jesus Christ our Lord, Amen, Amen, Amen, by the Grace of Almighty Lord, Amen, Amen, Amen. I say I waka waka waka, I go many places, I see see see!!! Shocked Shocked [size=14pt]Ogbeni Lawyer, as I don talk before and many others have said, this scheme you dey try sell to awon boys and girls is FRAUDULENT!!![/size] For AJ City na dis kind thing we dey call, CAVEAT EMPTOR

Please Interprete that using your own infinite Intelligence. Where did that roforofo attack Omoniles? Is that not a direct attack on Lawyer that he is a fraud and what he is exposing people too is a fraud? It is so obvious from the pictures that Lawyer is trying to protect the identity of certain people by shooting the pictures from behind because i doubt you will be happy to have your pictures taken on NL without any permission and its so plain to see that these are the same people in all the pictures and easily recognizable.

Why would someone/ group of people go all out to descredit people they dont know and havent done any investigation personally? Its just baffling Anyway, true to your type, i expect you to continue to pound lawyer senseless till your satisfied because that what we all expect you to do and dont dissappoint. Its your Trademark on Nairaland to go after people you secretly admire. My only response to lawyer if he is reading this is to Ignore her and her set of people and continue to do your good work. Like i said, i will soon come and drag you out of your office if you dont come out soon back to Nairaland

Dead post. Who is still discussing this land thing? Una no get other work?

now, why would I need other forms of entertainment when i can tune in to the various nairaland defence squads on the regular?

busy body has a massive crush on lawyer?

and why the sudden appearance of various "one-to-ten/twenty" post nlers on this thread?

what are your other ids and hope you aint the ones attacking others under various monikers?

just wondering!!

Having read all posts so far, i just want to say that everyone has been right about one thing or the other.
i mean, those who called lawyer fraudulent may have their reasons for doing so as madamL mentioned (abi no be naija we dey again?)
heaven knows that the fear of omoniles and all land related goons in naija is the beginning, middle and end of wisdom
but it would have been nice to try and substantiate claims bofore jumping to conclusions.

as for lawyer, i can vouch for him, the guy na one kind kolo guy o (i swear) but him nice well well (hope your head dey swell now )
i've known the guy for like three years now and for those who care to know, we met on n/land. i know am reach house even know him mama (whom incidentally i knew before meeting him)
i can also attest to the fact that everything he says (about land o!) na true him talk. my mama's own land can attest to it.

so my pple make una free the guy make him do wetin him dey enjoy doing make our lives dey better dey go.

finally, let me also say that even if it turns out to be true that this deal is fraudulent, i can safely say that it won't be becos lawyer was involved, it would be because he was a victim of our own naija factor and nobody sabi pass.

my brother like i told u on the phone, do your own and leave the rest. my mama and your mama dey pray for you.

we go catch!