Itz on NTA, CNN, AIT, MBI now Senate have pass a resolutions that Jonathan Goodluck shoould be Acting President

Yayy, Our first Middle-Belt president

useless replacing useless / what was his track record when he was assistant governor/governor/vice president

blacksta:

useless replacing useless / what was his track record when he was assistant governor/governor/vice president

What has been your own track record in life?
Ignorant people judging ignorantly

^ who told you to speak my mind?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8505755.stm


Nigerian senators urge Yar'Adua handover
Nigerian President Umaru Yar'Adua - file photo 29 July 2009
President Umaru Yar'Adua has both heart and kidney problems

Nigerian's Senate has passed a motion demanding sick President Umaru Yar'Adua hand power to his deputy, in the latest attempt to break months of deadlock.

The vote, sparked after powerful state governors lobbied senators to pass the motion, was carried live on national television.

The BBC's Ahmed Idris in Abuja says the move among the political elite to back the vice-president is unprecedented.

Mr Yar'Adua has been in hospital in Saudi Arabia since last November.

His absence has sparked legal challenges, cabinet splits and mass protests.

Impeachment plan

Our correspondent says the senate and state governors are usually loyal to the president, and the office of vice-president carries little weight.

But the governors decided last week to back Vice-President Goodluck Jonathan to take over power and have been lobbying senators ever since.

Now that the motion has been approved by the Senate, it needs to be passed by the house of representatives and cabinet and Mr Jonathan could then be sworn in as acting president this week.

But some analysts say such a motion would not be legal - and our correspondent says more court challenges could once again tie up the process.



Separately, the Senate is also expected to consider a move to impeach the president.

Two weeks ago, the assembly asked Mr Yar'Adua to provide a letter confirming he was sick, to allow a formal transfer of power.

But there has been no letter, and anti-Yar'Adua factions are expect to give a Thursday deadline for the letter, or threaten impeachment.

A presidential aide last week told the BBC such a letter would be written soon.

Mr Yar'Adua has not been seen in public since flying to Saudi Arabia for medical treatment in November.

He gave a radio interview to the BBC's Hausa service in early January where he pledged to return to Nigeria as soon as the doctors would allow.

But nothing more has been heard from the leader, who is suffering from an inflammation of the lining around the heart and has long suffered from kidney problems.

opokonwa:

What has been your own track record in life?
Ignorant people judging ignorantly

is he president? lol, get a good parallel. Its true though, Jonathan does not have a track record, but according to law, he is supposed to have been in that seat a long time ago .

blacksta:

useless replacing useless / what was his track record when he was assistant governor/governor/vice president

well said. Nigerians never look at things deep.

1. Mr Obasanjo is back in power, that was his game plan all along.

2. GoodLuck's wife was caught in 2007 with $2million by EFCC; what happened?

3. I expect 'looting for all to start right away.

I will predict here: This is going to be lame-duck VP-President till 2011

The best thing we should have asked for is a call for a new free and fair election right away since we know both Yaradua/GoodLuck are product of same FRAUD.

Its a victory for democracy in Nigeria.

Its a victory for democracy in Nigeria.

opokonwa:

What has been your own track record in life?
Ignorant people judging ignorantly

Fortunately i have not been in government and i can guarantee you i would have placed national interest above my own interests.  I am also happy  to inform you i have done well in life ( all glory to God) and still improving . Made much more movements in comparable to Nigeria.

Yar adua + Jonathan +PDP = A mixture of disaster

blacksta:

Fortunately i have not been in government and i can guarantee you i would have placed national interest above my own interests. I am also happy to inform you i have done well in life ( all glory to God) and still improving . Made much more movements in comparable to Nigeria.

Yar adua + Jonathan +PDP = A mixture of disaster

PDP IS THE DISASTER, AN EARTHQUAKE THAT IS DESTROYING NIGERIA

VOTE OUT PDP ANYWHERE, VOTE ANY OTHER PARTY OF YOUR CHOICE.

barnabasj:


Itz on MBI now

Does that broadcast outfit still exist?

otawa:

well said. Nigerians never look at things deep.

1. Mr Obasanjo is back in power, that was his game plan all along.

If u say so,i think the worst of OBJ (which is J.Goodluck)will be far better than the best of Yaradull.

If u say so,i think the worst of OBJ (which is J.Goodluck)will be far better than the best of Yaradull.

and you believe it is this level of incomptences that NIGERIANS should be subjected to?

Anyway, NIGERIANS will get President they deserve!

If Jonathan has a sense of the world around him, he must do a few things in other to be in control. He must make sure he is not a lame duck President even though he has to run the country for only 18 Months then so be it.

1. Replace AGF Aondoaka with Odein Ajumogbia SAN quickly (Aondoakaa has misdirected the Nation enough)

2. Replace NSA Sarki Mukhtar with Gen. Muhamed Abdulahi (Former Chief of Staff to Presidency) or Gen Andrew Owoye Azazi (former Defence Chief, thats if he is interested). Sarki Mukhtar has been busy with unholy activities lately.

3. Ojo Maduekwe to be replaced by Donald Duke

4. Bring El-Rufai into the cabinet if you can probably as Energy Minister to drive home the IPP project.

5. FCT Minister Adamu Aliero should also be shown the way and probably replaced with someone like Adamu Muazu

6. Abba Ruma can remain as Agricultural Minister but he must be badly relegated in the scheme of things.

Yayale Ahmed for VP

otawa:

well said. Nigerians never look at things deep.

1. Mr Obasanjo is back in power, that was his game plan all along.

2. GoodLuck's wife was caught in 2007 with $2million by EFCC; what happened?

3. I expect 'looting for all to start right away.

I will predict here: This is going to be lame-duck VP-President till 2011

The best thing we should have asked for is a call for a new free and fair election right away since we know both Yaradua/GoodLuck are product of same FRAUD.

When Yar'adua was looting the country why did you not call for free and fair elections? we don't have that luxury right now. The elections will be in 2011. You can vote whoever then.

I need a Lawyer to explain to me if the Senate has powers to declare the Vice president as president, and under what section of the constitution can we find such powers. I know the National assembly (senate + House) can impeach a president and the Vice automatically takes over, but the senate alone declaring someone acting president? i honestly do not know.

From my unlearned point of view, i thought the vice would be acting immediately the president informs the senate and the house that he would be indisposed. I do not think the senate can make someone acting president, especially when the president had not informed them officially that he is indisposed. So if the president comes back, the senate would just declare the acting president as vice again to enable Yaradua assume the presidency.

blacksta:

useless replacing useless /  what was his track record when he was assistant governor/governor/vice president

@blacksta; Why don't we try to stick to the issues? The issue with regards to Yar Adua as the president of Nigeria was that he left without being heard from for over 2 months and nothing was done about it, and it took so long till there was a serious concerted move to do what was common sense (leave the Vice President in charge). That is what this is about. If you want to go and open a mthread about how unexperience Jonathan Goodluck is and how they are all birds of thesame feather, then go ahead, but right now such an argument on this thread would make you sound like someone who just moans for the sake of it. So on this issue what would you have been happy with? The country remaining without an acting president??

@poster, my qualms with this now is if there would be moves to fire some people in government who let things get so out of hand for over 2 months, that is the only way this fiasco can be redeemed. The AGF needs to lose his job and so do some others. We should ask why things got so messed up and people should be made to pay for this to send a message. Let's see if the house has balls to do such. This is in no way a victory of any sort so I wonder why people are celebrating. The president of the nation has been missing for over 2 months and finally after over seventy days, power has been handed over to the Vice president? Congratulations and have a cookie. As far as I am concerned it is not a footnote for celebration but an end to stupidity; but of course I can already imagine the parties and thanksgiving services that are going to be held now by people in government for something that is coming 2 months too late. We always knew but now it has been openly confirmed by the way this whole thing played out, that the Vie President is simply a figure head put up there to placate a certain region of the country for votes.

wirinet:

I need a Lawyer to explain to me if the Senate has powers to declare the Vice president as president, and under what section of the constitution can we find such powers. I know the National assembly (senate + House) can impeach a president and the Vice automatically takes over, but the senate alone declaring someone acting president? i honestly do not know.

From my unlearned point of view, i thought the vice would be acting immediately the president informs the senate and the house that he would be indisposed. I do not think the senate can make someone acting president, especially when the president had not informed them officially that he is indisposed. So if the president comes back, the senate would just declare the acting president as vice again to enable Yaradua assume the presidency.

You are absolutely right

What they need to do is either impeach the President or liase with FEC to declare him incapacitated following a medical examination.

Really? Let me go confirm it. . .

mikeansy:

If Jonathan has a sense of the world around him, he must do a few things in other to be in control. He must make sure he is not a lame duck President even though he has to run the country for only 18 Months then so be it.

1. Replace AGF Aondoaka with Odein Ajumogbia SAN quickly (Aondoakaa has misdirected the Nation enough)

2. Replace NSA Sarki Mukhtar with Gen. Muhamed Abdulahi (Former Chief of Staff to Presidency) or Gen Andrew Owoye Azazi (former Defence Chief, thats if he is interested). Sarki Mukhtar has been busy with unholy activities lately.

3. Ojo Maduekwe to be replaced by Donald Duke

4. Bring El-Rufai into the cabinet if you can probably as Energy Minister to drive home the IPP project.

5. FCT Minister Adamu Aliero should also be shown the way and probably replaced with someone like Adamu Muazu

6. Abba Ruma can remain as Agricultural Minister but he must be badly relegated in the scheme of things.
Yayale Ahmed for VP

Your analysis is quite good, and I hope that Goodluck will read or get this from good sound advice and not be docile now that he is effectively the C-I-C.

Even the uselsess court that say there is no vaccum, of course there is one.

Abba Ruma should go as well, he is one of those who see the Presidency as that of Yar A'liar, and have been propping him up unneccesarily against the wider interest of Nigeria.

Quote from: wirinet on Today at 01:11:41 PM
I need a Lawyer to explain to me if the Senate has powers to declare the Vice president as president, and under what section of the constitution can we find such powers. I know the National assembly (senate + House) can impeach a president and the Vice automatically takes over, but the senate alone declaring someone acting president? i honestly do not know.

From my unlearned point of view, i thought the vice would be acting immediately the president informs the senate and the house that he would be indisposed. I do not think the senate can make someone acting president, especially when the president had not informed them officially that he is indisposed. So if the president comes back, the senate would just declare the acting president as vice again to enable Yaradua assume the presidency.

You are absolutely right

What they need to do is either impeach the President or liase with FEC to declare him incapacitated following a medical examination.

The resolution i expected the senate to have passed is a motion for impeachment on the grounds of "gross misconduct" as they are empowered to do according to section 143 in the constitution and not accepting a hoax unverifed BBC interview as a replacement for a medical vacation letter as demanded by the constitution

This resolution is likely to be overturned or manipulated in the courts under Mr AGF's evil supervision

The battle is not over yet

Jonathan is the Acting President and believe it or not, he has been acting since the President Yar adua has been away on medical issues. If the President is dead, the national assembly should set in motion the process to swear the Jonathan as President and declare the position of VP. As it is now, Jonathan is constitutionally a vice president allowed by the law to discharge the duties of the president. Let us assume the president is still alive, when Yar adua comes back, if ever coming back, would still remain president.

Lol it appears some pple still prefer a dead Yar'Adua to a living Jonathan.

@sefago LOL, jonathan is Niger Deltan . Middle belt have had their chance at presidency unfortunately it wasn't to a wily fellow who it was handed to.

Yar'adua gone forever

mikeansy:

You are absolutely right

What they need to do is either impeach the President or liase with FEC to declare him incapacitated following a medical examination.

You have written more a like a pseudo-lawyer or a true democratic than ranting based on sentiments.

No body prefers a dead Yaradua to a Jonathan. What people like me is advocating for is obedience to the Laws with which we have agreed to live under. The difference between a civilized society and a unstable one is obedience to the laws, no matter if you agree with it or not.

The Jews held their Torah  which was the Law that regulated their society sacred, and it helped then organize their society for thousands of years.

Also most western Nations hold their laws sacred and every citizen is held accountable to those laws. Here Laws are treated with disdain and the Laws are interpreted according to Tribal, religious, ethnic, class or even personal interests. Such societies cannot survive.

The Nigerian constitution is almost a carbon copy of the American constitution, especially the sections dealing with succession, so why had the type of problem we are having never occurred in the US.
If the US president should disappear for one week without informing anybody, he would be impeached immediately.

and Nigeria gets yet, another unwilling President, another without plan or ambition, like Gowon (thru unplanned coup @ age of 27) Shagari (who wanted Senate but given Presidency) AbdulSalam, Obasanjo who was begged by Northerners to please Yoruba for Abiola's cheating, to Yar Adua who wanted to retire to teaching Chemistry but forced to rule despite ill health.

Nigeria we hail thee. So help us God.

stealth01:

Quote from: wirinet on Today at 01:11:41 PM
I need a Lawyer to explain to me if the Senate has powers to declare the Vice president as president, and under what section of the constitution can we find such powers. I know the National assembly (senate + House) can impeach a president and the Vice automatically takes over, but the senate alone declaring someone acting president? i honestly do not know.

From my unlearned point of view, i thought the vice would be acting immediately the president informs the senate and the house that he would be indisposed. I do not think the senate can make someone acting president, especially when the president had not informed them officially that he is indisposed. So if the president comes back, the senate would just declare the acting president as vice again to enable Yaradua assume the presidency.

You are absolutely right

What they need to do is either impeach the President or liase with FEC to declare him incapacitated following a medical examination.

The resolution i expected the senate to have passed is a motion for impeachment on the grounds of "gross misconduct" as they are empowered to do according to section 143 in the constitution and not accepting a hoax unverifed BBC interview as a replacement for a medical vacation letter as demanded by the constitution

This resolution is likely to be overturned or manipulated in the courts under Mr AGF's evil supervision

The battle is not over yet

The politicians are just confusing everyone. There is a diffrence between political solution and a legal solution. There can be  legal solution but not a plotical one, but it is better for the two to co-exist.

The law require the President to transimt letter to NASS when he is going on vacation or medical to allow him gain his post whenever he comes back. The VP automatically becomes the acting President and commander in chief even f he does not transmit the said letter. It was to protect the President status and not the reverse.  It is like an employee takeing vacation or on medical, for him to come back to his job, he must inform his employers. Yar A'dua on this account is guilty of gross misconduct for not doing that and an impeacheable offence.

Goodluck is the Acting President since the Yar A'dua left in a hurry. It was simple plotics that such has not happen. PDP usual politics cum northern cabals.

Secondly, it is only the FEC that can declare President fit ot unfit, and they shoul have done it with medical report and all of them speaking with the President because it is their constitutional duties not duties owed to Yar A'dua because he appointed them. The did not have a medical report nor have they spoken to him in well over 65days before they had a meeting and said that he is a fit person. absolute liars and dishonest people.

ANYWAY VOTE OUT PDP 2011 AND VOTE ANY OTHER PARTY YOU LIKE. SEND POLITICANS MESSAGES WHO OWNS POWER.

KnowAll:

All that is happening is window dressing. The senate are playing a game, why not impeach Yaradua for AWOL - Absence without leave. That would make sense.

But this one, swearing in an acting President, so it simply means Turai would still be in Aso rock and Jonathan would be at the VP's lodge.

That does not make sense, if Jonathan is sworn in as acting Presdent I dont suppose an acting President would now have an actingthe VP. The whole scenerio is now becoming the more u look, the less u see.  This one naw Abracada - Goverment Magic

Thank you my brother, my people are ever ready to accept pandol in place of Panadol. Declaring Jonathan acting president (unconstitutionally), means we still have a president (and a first lady), even though Yaradua did not tell us he is on holidays - he is simply AWOL.