Jeromejnr:


Do you have comprehension issues at all?

I have noticed that with a lot of people here.

Did I say or advise Nigerians to go back to Nigeria. I gave an example of someone and also some people who enjoy Nigeria better.

Understand this, some people have valid reasons..okay?

No one is arguing about masses suffering. If you are suffering leave for a better place. Shikena.

Many Nigerians are even suffering in the U.S and would love to come back but they can't. Whether you believe that or not is up to you.

There you go again with your factual inaccuracies. Which Nigerians? How do you know this? Because someone told you? Did you experience this 1st hand? An argument has to be critical in order to come to a logical conclusion. All I'm hearing are assumptions, wishful thinking, and conjectures.

Mike Adenuga or even Adeleke they all were living in america before they left America to come to nigeria to build multi /milliin dollar company.

It would be almost impossible to do so in america.

Truth is some ppl go make am for america and some in nigeria.

if ur destiny dey nigeria and u are in monaco u go jones till u die. some ppl maybe na germany dem destiny dey if dem go UK dem go jones die

Even Uk sef go victoria station for London u go see naija ppl dey man toilet

is that life?

Jeromejnr:


I believe a millionaire in Abuja enjoys his money better than someone earning over 2000k dolls in the U.S.

Even citizens recently are complaining of the new tax policies by the new administration. What do you want to enjoy there that you can't enjoy in a place like Abj? Is it light, road e.t.c.

Everyone has their own preferences. Not everyone has to think like others who see the U.S as heaven.

When I make my examples I use saner places in Nigeria not places and slums like lagos.

If u are wealthy n established in Nigeria, I see no reason why u should relocate. because if u do, ur standard of living will most likely drop.
But comparing nigeria to any developed country makes no sense in all ramifications.
Ordinary road traffic accident can mess u up in that country...despite all your money. Even ur President wouldn't trust his health with nigerian hospitals.

Btw the op comparison of dollar earning to naira spending is very foolish. That goes to show his level of i.q

USA, UK and other European countries are good for you to make your money. On the other hand, spending your money in Africa or Asian gives you more value. if Nigeria desend into chaos I will build my house in another African or Asian country and retire in peace.

banmee:


There you go again with your factual inaccuracies. Which Nigerians? How do you know this? Because someone told you? Did you experience this 1st hand? An argument has to be critical in order to come to a logical conclusion. All I'm hearing are assumptions, wishful thinking, and conjectures.

Mumu question...I first said I know someone (a girl)..then also said others...then mentioned a future in law of mine and also mentioned myself in previous posts.

You're talking assumptions.

Lol some of you on this Nairaland are funny I observed. In a bid to try to sound intelligent, you guys employ words like "logical conclusion" "factual inconsistencies" "assumptions" "conjectures" e.t.c without even knowing when to apply those terms and what they even mean. Do you think you are a scientist now or a professor

Your sentence was not even grammatically correct based on the points you were arguing against.

You don't use the words "factual inaccuracies" and "assumptions" and "conjectures" to argue against someone's experience. Neither do you try to employ strawman tactics if you want your debate to be logically correct.

Also, "many" is not equal to "All"...I said I know many people people...I never said All Nigerians. I even have Nigerians enjoying and living better lives in the U.S. I personally do not like the U.S anymore as I use to. Thays my preference. I must not bow to you or people who assume U.S is heaven on earth.

I prefer other countries I would love to move to soon. And that is because I am a lover of adventure and beautiful nature with sane people. Not everything is money, money.

EKONGKING:
America should conduct a IQ test when granting a visa to immigrants .Thats one way to stop stupid morons from bringing down the IQ levels of America.
If america deports this slowpoke ,he will start speaking in tongues and becomes overnight gay to stop deportation .

a billion likes. Spot on

Jeromejnr:


Mumu question...I first said I know someone (a girl)..then also said others...then mentioned a future in law of mine and also mentioned myself in previous posts.

You're talking assumptions.

Lol some of you on this Nairaland are funny I observed. In a bid to try to sound intelligent, you guys employ words like "logical conclusion" "factual inconsistencies" "assumptions" "conjectures" e.t.c without even knowing when to apply those terms and what they even mean. Do you think you are a scientist now or a professor

Your sentence was not even grammatically correct based on the points you were arguing against.

You don't use the words "factual inaccuracies" and "assumptions" and "conjectures" to argue against someone's experience. Neither do you try to employ strawman tactics if you want your debate to be logically correct.

Also, "many" is not equal to "All"...I said I know many people people...I never said All Nigerians. I even have Nigerians enjoying and living better lives in the U.S. I personally do not like the U.S anymore as I use to. Thays my preference. I must not bow to you or people who assume U.S is heaven on earth.

I prefer other countries I would love to move to soon. And that is because I am a lover of adventure and beautiful nature with sane people. Not everything is money, money.

Still haven't answered the question. On what premise are you basing you inaccuracies on? Only a computer warrior will comment on issues they have zero knowledge of So where are you getting you facts from?

SIRTee15:


If u are wealthy n established in Nigeria, I see no reason why u should relocate. because if u do, ur standard of living will most likely drop.
But comparing nigeria to any developed country makes no sense in all ramifications.
Ordinary road traffic accident can mess u up in that country...despite all your money. Even ur President wouldn't trust his health with nigerian hospitals.

Btw the op comparison of dollar earning to naira spending is very foolish. That goes to show his level of i.q

I don't agree with the OP on many points.

But just as accidents happen here...also school shootings, cinema shootings etc. Also happen there..I mean even accidents.

How many people do accidents kill on a daily in the suburbs in Nigeria? No where is perfect. Its just the wealthy sometimes have a better way and some opportunities to live better and avoid things that the poor go through on a daily.

And if they have health issues, they jet out if they like. But many of these people still usually come back. Because they feel Nigeria isn't too strict on many things for them.

banmee:


Still haven't answered the question. On what premise are you basing you inaccuracies on? Only a computer warrior will comment on issues they have zero knowledge of So where are you getting you facts from?

I recommend for you just as I did someone else...to go for a comprehension assessment test.

Other people have understood what I said, but your own thinking is still in the bronze age.

It is well. My answers are in my previous comments.

Shalom.

banmee:


There you go again with your factual inaccuracies. Which Nigerians? How do you know this? Because someone told you? Did you experience this 1st hand? An argument has to be critical in order to come to a logical conclusion. All I'm hearing are assumptions, wishful thinking, and conjectures.

Thats all he argues with. He will tell you of one man or obe woman he knows. I have never seen

Jeromejnr:


Mumu question...I first said I know someone (a girl)..then also said others...then mentioned a future in law of mine and also mentioned myself in previous posts.

You're talking assumptions.

Lol some of you on this Nairaland are funny I observed. In a bid to try to sound intelligent, you guys employ words like "logical conclusion" "factual inconsistencies" "assumptions" "conjectures" e.t.c without even knowing when to apply those terms and what they even mean. Do you think you are a scientist now or a professor

Your sentence was not even grammatically correct based on the points you were arguing against.

You don't use the words "factual inaccuracies" and "assumptions" and "conjectures" to argue against someone's experience. Neither do you try to employ strawman tactics if you want your debate to be logically correct.

Also, "many" is not equal to "All"...I said I know many people people...I never said All Nigerians. I even have Nigerians enjoying and living better lives in the U.S. I personally do not like the U.S anymore as I use to. Thays my preference. I must not bow to you or people who assume U.S is heaven on earth.

I prefer other countries I would love to move to soon. And that is because I am a lover of adventure and beautiful nature with sane people. Not everything is money, money.

Mr Man. I thought you were go8ng to watch movies. What happened? Abi NEPA carry light?

Jeromejnr:


I recommend for you just as I did someone else...to go for a comprehension assessment test.

Other people have understood what I said, but your own thinking is still in the bronze age.

It is well. My answers are in my previous comments.

Shalom.

Two re.tarded people agreeing on an issue does not make you right. It just means you are all dumb as phuck and you are so used to suffering and have no choice but to celebrate in your squalor since you do not have a choice or hope for that matter.

Jaqenhghar:
Mr Man. I thought you were go8ng to watch movies. What happened? Abi NEPA carry light?

Oh you're back..I have finished o. Obalende man.

Welcome.

E be like say Naija don really do you shege.

It is well.

banmee:


Two re.tarded people agreeing on an issue does not make you right. It just means you are all dumb as phuck and you are so used to suffering and have no choice but to celebrate in your squalor since you do not have a choice or hope for that matter.

Lol. Ad hominems.

Jaqenhghar:

Thats all he argues with. He will tell you of one man or obe woman he knows. I have never seen

You don start again.

That guy should be deported immediately!!!!

Really

Na wa o... Someone poured out his opinion on why he thinks America is better than Nigeria. Some people called him a fool, someone else said he is a zombie.

The question is... Must we have to insult someone for having a stand point on something?

Bitter hearted Nigerians .... Mtcheeeeew

Jeromejnr:


I don't agree with the OP on many points.

But just as accidents happen here...also school shootings, cinema shootings etc. Also happen there..I mean even accidents.

How many people do accidents kill on a daily in the suburbs in Nigeria? No where is perfect. Its just the wealthy sometimes have a better way and some opportunities to live better and avoid things that the poor go through on a daily.

And if they have health issues, they jet out if they like. But many of these people still usually come back. Because they feel Nigeria isn't too strict on many things for them.

It's like u dont know what's medical emergency. Naija hospital still lag behind in that aspect....pray u don't fall victim, ur money won't safe u.
See how coronavirus disgraced nigerian wealthy elites.
They were just dropping like fowls. Even the presidency wasn't spared.
Despite running to the so called 'world class' hospitals in Abuja or Lagos.

Nigeria is ok to reside if u are wealthy, connected and well established. And that's more than sufficient to compensate for its inadequacy.
This is what u guys should propagate for Nigerians in diaspora. So that those who want to return can weigh the pros and cons
That's more useful to us, than all these fictitious David v Goliath contest.

Jeromejnr:


Oh you're back..I have finished o. Obalende man.

Welcome.

E be like say Naija don really do you shege.

It is well.

Ha fa. Abi generator nor gree work? Fuel don finish for generator ko?

banmee:


You don start again.

No be my fault bros. The guy dey argue anyhow with no facts. Just dey misfire. If you employ that kind person for your unit na death by friendly fire sure pass.

lightest:
The Op that wrote this is idiotic. He forgot to tell us how much he earns per hour and how much Nigerian earn per hour.

He is only doing currency convertion comparison. What I will tell anybody leaving in Nigeria right now is that if u have ur ways, its better u leave and when leaving do ur calculations very well.

I just migrate to UK some months ago and after spending all the spendables, bills food, and some dash to Nigeria, I can tell u am still saving close to 300k Nigerian naira.

Though the hustle is real my people but its still far better that Naija.

Naija dey change once destiny.

Note: u must make sure u have papers in UK but US and Canada enter there u go survive

My piece of advice

Oga please wait and check your position after 5 years. You will then understand the OP.

What about the hot sun in Nigeria ?

blackboy:
a billion likes. Spot on

Life is not all about money. Thats nigerian problem they see everything from money angle.

Poverty mentality

WeNoGoDie:
Please ask him why then is he still remaining in the US.

Pls help me ask the idiot if he has a generator set, when last he bumped into a pot hole, if he drilled his own well, when last his phone was searched randomly, when last he played a bribe to get something...

I remember vividly when I went to a police station at Ogba to report a rape case of a neighbor who happened to be my girlfriend with WhatsApp chat as evidence. I actually when to meet a female police officer who read the chat had promised me justice would be done with the evidence I came with only to ask me to bring money so they will go and arrest the siad culprit. I was so astonished that with all this evidence and being a female officer with children she should be happy and willing to take up the case but reverse was the case, she wanted money. I gave up on Nigeria that very day.

Jaqenhghar:

No matter how insane the US is it can never be as insane as a lawless shithole where nothing works.
A second class citizen in the US lives a far better quality of life than some big men in Niggeria.
You keep talkingnof this many people yet if I probe it will be one or two people you happen to meet.
I believe in facts backed by statistics. Mathematics dont lie. One plus one is 2 anywhere you go. You may not like it but it is what it is.
Its not a coincidence when you see long ass queues outside embassies of countries like US and UK

Why are there no such crowds outside the embassies of countries like Eritrea and Somalia?

Of the people leaving the country How many of them really come back? When you calculate numbers of those who go and stay vs those who go and come back what is the ratio? You havent answered that one you are telling me about "some people".
You are talking of holidays as if Niggerians take holidays.
Go to all the popular vacation spots around the world you will hardly see Niggerians there even in the peak of summer.

Please leave Naija first. The suffering has really messed your brain up. You want to gladly be a second class citizen in another man’s country?
All of you just talk absolute rubbish.
No doubt you are a frustrated graduate. Many of you are suffering because you gained your degree from writing exams, higher education without advanced reasoning.

shegzhkn:


Son, never ever try to lecture me about the United States.

This thing still subscribes to the old philosophical idea that Nigeria is a wealthy country, a near failed state.

The same country that spend just a little above 30B USD to run it affairs, a country of about 200M people.

The fact that you are just getting by in that country and you look a lil bit better than millions does not mean everyone likes to live like that.

And yes the US like to develop it economy and they don't really need money from your 'elite' because all the resources they had will almost be equivalent to nothing in the states, South Korea, Germany and our allies are doing just that.

Besides Saudi is pouring billions to support jobs in America the magnitude poor countries like yours will only realize in 10 years selling hydro carbon.

You seems to over estimate the significant of that country and the people who refer to themselves as rich, maybe it blind optimism or stupidity or sheer ignorant who knows ??

What is your point?

ibedun:


Please leave Naija first. The suffering has really messed your brain up. You want to gladly be a second class citizen in another man’s country?
All of you just talk absolute rubbish.
No doubt you are a frustrated graduate. Many of you are suffering because you gained your degree from writing exams, higher education without advanced reasoning.

See this jackass. As a first class citizen in that shithole why dont you tell me one thing you enjoy. One thing you enjoy as a citizen. We start from there then Ill show you whose brain is really messed up

ZINIIBANKS:
He' is simply right but what he ought to say is
THE DISADVANTAGES OF LIVING IN USA .
Cause only a crazy mad human being will say such
Your president issued $1,400 to 85% of her citizens for covid relief. Not a single penny was giving to us here.
So how then is this shithole better than the US ??

ILLITERATE!! STFU

eejo:
USA, UK and other European countries are good for you to make your money. On the other hand, spending your money in Africa or Asian gives you more value. if Nigeria desend into chaos I will build my house in another African or Asian country and retire in peace.

I wish you luck. And you think the locals will just accept you just like that?

Jaqenhghar:

See this jackass. As a first class citizen in that shithole why dont you tell me one thing you enjoy. One thing you enjoy as a citizen. We start from there then Ill show you whose brain is really messed up

I am not arguing with a frustrated uninformed unemployable graduate. You hate Nigeria so much yet your poor dull mind can’t work out an effective plan on how to get out.

You will learn the hard way. Most of you are born to parents who had no plans for you whatsoever, they were simply ffcking and you came along. My parents planned my birth and upbringing.

Jeromejnr:


See as you jumped to conclusion.

You mentioned only two friend's..where do they stay? Is it Chicago or Texas? A Republican state or a Dem state?

You don't sit down and conclude for everyone because of two friends who never jam better problem yet. Just like southerners that didn't care much about the insurgency in the North but now are starting to feel the heat as it is closing up on them.

Many U.S citizens have been reported recently of leaving states like California because of racism and riots. Even a friend of mine married to my babe's sister wants to move from the mumu Dem ruled state he is in to Canada.
I speak on people who have something to lose not people who are still feeding from Mommy and Daddy.

My comment was on a minority and a friend as an example. I never said U.S is more terrible than Naija. Although in some aspects, one would wish he had remained at home.

No be only attention. You don't make arguments on sentiments. Facts don't care about your feelings.

Im telling you what people are saying...these are my colleagues o...young minded persons that are social and know what they want...they rejected naija and are doing well...I still have cousins outside in Germany and they arent complaining like your one friend did. All persons i was referring to are there on their own(not mummy or daddy pocket). so your bored friend left US because of racism and came to naija that is filled with tribal bigotry and xenophobic attacks and you support him...hope she is fulani else if she nears any bush, they'd likely kidnap her. the disadvantages of being in naija outweighs the advantages so far. What she is running away from outside(racism), she will find it here. Also dont sit and conclude for everyone..your friend gave you her opinion and you already allowed her decide for you but want to tell me what to conclude on or not