Emusan:

Now you feel happy because you deactivated that account. At the bold, you think your lies can be covered forever because you deactivated your account. Don't worry, I'll take the step by copying both @Seun and Mods here to reveal your posts on that your old account.

MaxInDHouse:
Next time learn from wise people not your stupid misinformed churchgoer pastors who are as dull as you're.

An adage from my wise tribe says:

"ejó làá kó káa tó bèrè ìjà, nítorí léyìn ìjà ejó làá fií jàre ìjà"
The wisest counselor of all times further expatiate saying:

“Be quick to settle matters with your legal opponent, while you are with him on the way there, so that somehow the opponent may not turn you over to the judge, and the judge to the court attendant, and you get thrown into prison. I say to you for a fact, you will certainly not come out of there until you have paid over your last small coin" Matthew 5:25-26

Why do you stupidly run your mouth without keeping EVIDENCES to back up your allegations?
Well you're associating with fools so how can you be wise? Proverbs 13:20

Emusan:

The @highlight says it all which means you know what I'm saying is true but you think I don't have evidence just because you deactivated that account but one thing I'm assuring you is that I'll get to the root of it.
You'll be shame forever here like your fraudulent organization.

MaxInDHouse:
I'm only responding because your sister in da lord may take my silence for an affirmation of your stupid accusations.
When our teacher stood before your ancestors he just kept quiet and allowed them fooling around in search of EVIDENCES to nail the unblemish!

Now the chief priests and the entire Sanʹhe·drin were looking for false testimony against Jesus in order to put him to death. But they found none, although many false witnesses came forward. Later two came forward and said: “This man said, ‘I am able to throw down the temple of God and build it up in three days.’” With that the high priest stood up and said to him: “Do you say nothing in reply? What is it these men are testifying against you?” But Jesus kept silent
Matthew 26:59-63

That's exactly what i supposed to do but out of empathy for the misinformed lady i decided to speak up. Ordinarily silence is the best answer for a fool! Ecclesiastes 3:7

Emusan:

I'm saying the same thing, you called it false accusation because you know your old account was deactivated NOT that you didn't know you once created a Ponzi scheme thread on this forum.
But I'm assuring you that, your lying mouth will be put to shame once again.

Emusan:

Your hypocrisy is stinking!
Is that the reason why you deleted your first account because of the Ponzi Scheme you're promoting, so that your fraudulent acts won't be revisiting?
Or you think we dont know about your first two posts one your first account, where you're promoting get rich quick scheme?
Instead of you to face the topic at hand or keep quiet, you think by bringing up people's opinions in other thread will safe you.
Hypocrite l!

Emusan:

You want to deny that you didn't create two threads on this forum promoting the likes of invest 5k get ROI of 50k within a week here on your previous moniker @maximum69?
Just just deny it first!

Emusan:

See this lying liar, I know it pains you because your secret is being exposed.
because you know your deactivated account can't be accessed, that's why you're spewing this nonsense.
But this is the challenge (because I know you can't delete a thread on Nairaland), can you write official letter to Nairaland owner Seun Osewa to make your old account @Maximum69 accessible to few people?

Emusan:

Now you feel happy because you deactivated that account.
At the bold, you think your lies can be covered forever because you deactivated your account.
Don't worry, I'll take the step by copying both @Seun and Mods here to reveal your posts on that your old account.

Janosky:


Colossians 1:15
1599 Geneva Bible
15 [a]Who is the (A)image of the invisible God, the first begotten of every creature.

Footnotes
Colossians 1:15 Begotten before anything was made: and therefore the everlasting Son of the everlasting Father"

Is the first born of every child a child?
Bros, what is the meaning of "creature" @ Colossians 1:15?

The truth was revealed in your Trinitarian Bible since 1599 before King James Version DECEIVE una in 1611

Continue DECEIVING yourself.

MaxInDHouse:
@Preaciousgirl.
Please i tender an apology for disturbing your thread jare, but try to preach about your god in peace without calling out no organization.
Each person is free to practice whatever religion of his/her choice!
May you have PEACE!

Proverbs 8:22-24
1599 Geneva Bible
22 "The Lord hath possessed me in the beginning of his way: I was [a]before his works of old.

24 When there were no depths, was I begotten, when there were no fountains abounding with water."
Footnotes
Proverbs 8:22 He declareth hereby the divinity and eternity of this wisdom, which he magnifieth and praiseth through this book: meaning thereby the eternal son of God Jesus Christ our Savior, whom Saint John calleth that word that was in the beginning, John 1:1.

Genesis14:22, Prov 8:22 "Possessed" = create.
Hebrew qanah.

Janosky:

Seconded.

Proverbs 8:22-24
1599 Geneva Bible
22 "The Lord hath possessed me in the beginning of his way: I was [a]before his works of old.

24 When there were no depths, was I begotten, when there were no fountains abounding with water."
Footnotes
Proverbs 8:22 He declareth hereby the divinity and eternity of this wisdom, which he magnifieth and praiseth through this book: meaning thereby the eternal son of God Jesus Christ our Savior, whom Saint John calleth that word that was in the beginning, John 1:1.

Genesis14:22, Prov 8:22 "Possessed" = create.
Hebrew qanah.

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As the scriptural evidences continues to multiply, who among her fellow triune pagan deities devotees can defend their Triune pagan idols?
Trinity na scam jare.

johnw47:


[s]Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:


duh, context! know nothing false jw janosky[/s], gen 14:22 and the previous verse are about possession/ownership

Gen 14:21  And the king of Sodom said unto Abram, Give me the persons, and take the goods to thyself. 
Gen 14:22  And Abram said to the king of Sodom, I have lift up mine hand unto the LORD, the most high God, the possessor of heaven and earth,

"the Lord the most high God is the owner/the posessor of heaven and earth

nothing to do with the creation of big lying fool

[s]Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a
murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.[/s]

false jw say:
posessed = create, laugh, u such a dummy janosky, aren't you

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Proverbs 8:22, Geneva Bible ©1599 & Genesis 14:22 have explained & exposed your frustrations.
Continue DECEIVING yourself, mumu Triune pagan deities worshipper.

Janosky:

Hebrew qanah (Strong's 7069).
Create=possessed=possessor=made=Creator

Bible > Genesis > Chapter 14 > Verse 22
◄ Genesis 14:22 ►

New International Version
But Abram said to the king of Sodom, "With raised hand I have sworn an oath to the LORD, God Most High, Creator of heaven and earth,

New Living Translation
Abram replied to the king of Sodom, “I solemnly swear to the LORD, God Most High, Creator of heaven and earth,

English Standard Version
But Abram said to the king of Sodom, “I have lifted my hand to the LORD, God Most High, Possessor of heaven and earth,

Berean Study Bible
But Abram replied to the king of Sodom, “I have raised my hand to the LORD God Most High, Creator of heaven and earth,

King James Bible
And Abram said to the king of Sodom, I have lift up mine hand unto the LORD, the most high God, the possessor of heaven and earth,

NASB 1977
And Abram said to the king of Sodom, “I have sworn to the LORD God Most High, possessor of heaven and earth,

Amplified Bible
But Abram said to the king of Sodom, “I have raised my hand and sworn an oath to the LORD God Most High, the Creator and Possessor of heaven and earth,

Christian Standard Bible
But Abram said to the king of Sodom, “I have raised my hand in an oath to the LORD, God Most High, Creator of heaven and earth,

Holman Christian Standard Bible
But Abram said to the king of Sodom, "I have raised my hand in an oath to Yahweh, God Most High, Creator of heaven and earth,

American Standard Version
And Abram said to the king of Sodom, I have lifted up my hand unto Jehovah, God Most High, possessor of heaven and earth,

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And Abram said to the King of Sadom, “I have lifted my hands to God the Highest the Possessor of Heaven and Earth,

Brenton Septuagint Translation
And Abram said to the king of Sodom, I will stretch out my hand to the Lord the most high God, who made the heaven and the earth,

Contemporary English Version
Abram answered: The LORD God Most High made the heavens and the earth. And I have promised him"

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Proverbs 8:22, Geneva Bible ©1599 & Genesis 14:22 have explained & exposed your frustrations.
Continue DECEIVING yourself, mumu Triune pagan deities worshipper.

johnw47:
Gen 14:21  And the king of Sodom said unto Abram, Give me the persons, and take the goods to thyself. 
Gen 14:22  And Abram said to the king of Sodom, I have lift up mine hand unto the LORD, the most high God, the possessor of heaven and earth, 
Gen 14:23  That I will not take from a thread even to a shoelatchet, and that I will not take any thing that is thine, lest thou shouldest say, I have made Abram rich: 
Gen 14:24  Save only that which the young men have eaten, and the portion of the men which went with me, Aner, Eshcol, and Mamre; let them take their portion. 


the king of sodom wanted to possess the persons
and he wanted abraham to possess the goods

but abraham said by the Lord the most high God posessor of heaven and earth
that he wouldn't possess anything but his own men and the food they ate


u know nothing do you, oh full of gibberish and laughing fool false jw janosky

Joh 8:44 [b]Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a
murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.[/b]

Janosky:


Genesis14:19,22. Proverbs 8:22 issa goal.

Proverbs 8:22-24
1599 Geneva Bible
22 "The Lord hath possessed me in the beginning of his way: I was [a]before his works of old.

24 When there were no depths, was I begotten, when there were no fountains abounding with water."

Footnotes
Proverbs 8:22 He declareth hereby the divinity and eternity of this wisdom, which he magnifieth and praiseth through this book: meaning thereby the eternal son of God Jesus Christ our Savior, whom Saint John calleth that word that was in the beginning, John 1:1.

Genesis14:22, Prov 8:22 "Possessed" = create.
Hebrew qanah Strong's 7069

John W FRAUD.

johnw47:


Ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:

poor confused know nothing false jw janosky, you would have the verses saying:

the king of sodom wanted to create the persons
and he wanted abraham to create the goods

but abraham said by the creator of heaven and earth
that he wouldn't create anything but the food they ate and his own men


ha ha ha you such a mumu false jw
and a habitual liar like your god the devil:

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a
murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.



flase jw janosky:
Possessed = create

big mumu janosky, i possessed a car, so i created that car, laughing

Janosky:

You are the real mumu, John w fraud.
@ Genesis 14:19 & Proverbs 8:22,is Hebrew Qanah an English word?

Janosky:

You are the real mumu, John w fraud.
@ Genesis 14:19 & Proverbs 8:22,is Hebrew Qanah an English word?

quote author=haddeylium post=101662136]

The Basic meaning of 'Firstborn' means 'the one who was born first'so, it is used with that sense everywhere in the Bible(more than 30times) and the meaning has always be the same.
So when applied to Jesus, it means exactly the same.
Simply, he's God's first creation (BEGOTTEN)

Preciousgirl:


Revelation 22:1-3

[1]And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding from the throne of God and of the Lamb.
[2]In the middle of its street, and on either side of the river, was the tree of life, which bore twelve fruits, each tree yielding its fruit every month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
[3]And there shall be no more curse, but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it, [/b]and [b]His servants shall serve Him.

Fools cannot see God and the lamb is One Being...hence the pronoun HIS for God and the Lamb


Glory

You conveniently separated your "One being" with conjunction "And", yet your brain no understand you are wrong

Your education is useless, na which school your teacher teach you "His" refers to 2 persons?

Revelation 1:5-6, 3:12, Jesus the Lamb serves his God and Father.
LYING foolishness claims she is "Precious".
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madegreatbygrace:




I like the fact that you used “basic meaning”. That means firstborn could have a secondary meaning. Even the concordance affirms it can be used figuratively.

quote author=haddeylium post=103018420]

Most people tends to pay attention to what their doctrine says than an actual Bible.

KJV Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
As it is used throughout the scriptures, customary meaning of “firstborn,” indicates that Jesus is the eldest in Jehovah’s family of sons.
The grammar used show he is part of creation.The verse uses the genitive , which means part “of” the group it is associated with.

the expression “the firstborn of” occurs upwards of 30 times in the Bible, and in each instance that it is applied to living creatures the same meaning applies—the firstborn is part of the group.
“The firstborn of Israel” is one of the sons of Israel;
“the firstborn of Pharaoh” is one of Pharaoh’s family;
“the firstborn of beast” are themselves animals.
"Firstborn of all creature" is also a creature

Same with begets

madegreatbygrace:



Oh, I see. Now tell me, how is firstborn used in the scripture below ?

“Also I will make him My firstborn, The highest of the kings of the earth.”
‭‭Psalms‬ ‭89:27‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

This refers to David. You are not going to tell me this is about Christ.

Surely not!

quote author=haddeylium post=103019871]

Even though the verse is speaking prophetically about Jesus that will foreshadow David(1 Tim 6:15; Rev 19:16). But, that's not the discuss.
Firstborn is an honoured position of the oldest son of a Father. A Lastborn can be promoted to that position as well.
But, Be it First or Last, what's common to them is 'Born' which is done by been created

You don't need to argue with me when I say ' He is the firstborn of all my children' would you?

I know you wanted to push 'preeminence' in col 1:15 and that's not going to work. I've addressed that part already.
Jesus is said to be 'part of all creation '. Give 'Firstborn' whatever meaning you desired , you will still land the same way.
'He(Lium) is the 'most superior/smartest' of all my children.
This is just basic English, that does not exclude Lium as someone I birthed .
'of all creature' is still part of the creatures

madegreatbygrace:

Is David the oldest son of a father?

You’ve still not explain the application of firstborn in the foregoing.

I know it’s not going to work because you won’t make it work.

But if we can just yield to reason, it should work.

madegreatbygrace:

Is David the oldest son of a father?

You’ve still not explain the application of firstborn in the foregoing.
I know it’s not going to work because you won’t make it work.
But if we can just yield to reason, it should work.