Of recent, whenever people try to learn web development, I see comments desisting the person and telling them the field is over saturated and they should try things like data science and machine learning.

I feel its hogwash. With regards to Nigeria, the field of web development is honestly a 7 year old career to be realistic. The tech industry didnt start gaining any waves till like 5 years ago when a lot of funding went to the industry alongside the huge paystack exit. As of 2013, how many programmers even existed in Nigeria. Things were so bad that when Andela launched, they were paying people to learn to code. I mean people were being paid to learn to code. 80k alongside a brand new MacBook alongside many other benefits. Most of the people who were smart enough to take advantage of such opportunities are out of the country now as senior or mid-level devs or running very successful tech startups in Nigeria eg the founder of Eden life.

So how is a 7-year-old thing saturated? Its like people think web development is all about downloading pirated WordPress themes and installing them and you can call it a day. There are so many parts of web development that there arent even any developers in Nigeria for. Like they dont even exist. Even the so called wordpress how many people dive into the deep end?

What a lot of people are yet to understand is that the internet as we all use it is less than 30 years old. Big tech giants controlling the globe today like Amazon, Google and Netflix are less than 28 years old. Imagine what will happen when the whole wide world has the same internet access that the west has. Imagine what will be built and who will build them? Web developers. Just look at india, Bangalore (india's sillicon valley) salaries are matching those of sillicon valley now. People are earning six figure dollar incomes. The same thing is going to happen in africa, I am not optimistic about the continent sha and with the advent of remote work, your location does not stop you from earning a good income. A lot of sillicon valley startups are removing location based pay. So if you in Nigeria manage to get job with them you will be earning the same thing with your counterparts there. Imagine earning 150k USD a year in one village in osun state.

If people want to see saturation they should talk about engineering. Fields like Mechanical, Electrical, Chemical and petroleum engineering. Jobs dont exist in this fields now. Things are so bad that even with a very good first class, its still very tough getting a job except you want to go and do a Masters and PHD and end up lecturing. What of the field of law, teaching? Web developers can work anywhere in the world. Aside remotely, a lot of visa sponsorship jobs exist catering to web developers. You cant get this in engineering.

We can also take a look at linkedin jobs. I will post the picture of petroleum engineering a supposedly hotcake engineering field which a lot of people are dying for and believe in getting a big oil company job and just wordpress which a ton of people hate. Petroleum engineering has just 2000 available vacancies worldwide with most jobs having over 50 applicants while wordpress has over 30000 vacancies online. Wordpress is like the lowest hanging fruit in just web development. If I start to mention the gazillion amount of jobs in other places eh

Please web development is not saturated at all. That is a lie.

Op, How many people are WordPress developer in Nigeria? I am not saying ,you go to one website get template and start telling people you are a developer, I am saying develop your template and plugin from a scratch, we are very few. I don't know what they meant by saturation , it cannot, except you are not good at it .

supportnija:
Op, How many people are WordPress developer in Nigeria? I am not saying ,you go to one website get template and start telling people you are a developer, I am saying develop your template and plugin from a scratch, we are very few.

That's it o. I haven't even entered Magento, shopify, servicenow and all. What of even normal web stacks.

Op nice one jare .. although I am into game and software dev I key into your vision for the future of African devs.

I always look forward to your post, and you don't disappoint.
Thank you for educating us more on, web development.

I’ve started learning python on SoloLearn and I’m done with the Python for beginner class. I want to go further by coding on my computer but I don’t know what software to download for it. So please how do I go about it @ tensazangetsu20?

I am learning it on my phones, plus abeg, I need mentorship

Citygal:
I’ve started learning python on SoloLearn and I’m done with the Python for beginner class. I want to go further by coding on my computer but I don’t know what software to download for it. So please how do I go about it @ tensazangetsu20?

I am learning it on my phones, plus abeg, I need mentorship

Download visual studio code on your computer. Then you can look up on Google how to run python on visual studio. I don't do python and I will never ever do it. There's also some python specific ides from jetbrains.

tensazangetsu20:

Download visual studio code on your computer. Then you can look up on Google how to run python on visual studio.I don't do python and I will never ever do it. There's also some python specific ides from jetbrains.

Thank you, but why? @the bolded, please I want to know if it isn’t going to be so useful let me switch to something better I’m still at the beginning stage.

Citygal:


Thank you, but why? @the bolded, please I want to know if it isn’t going to be so useful let me switch to something better I’m still at the beginning stage.

Python has its use cases in data science and machine learning but it's not just python. You would need to learn other statistical tools and then statistics. There's very few jobs in data science in Nigeria it's still a new field so one might learn all this and be unemployed. For web development you can build websites with python frameworks like Django or flask but there's very few jobs using it so it's like a waste at the end at least to me.

I'm not saying what op is saying is totally wrong, but it's not totally right either

OP, you failed to put some things into consideration.

Why don't u tell us the number of application per jobs for those 30000 WordPress jobs.
I remember a nairalander that said he applied for over 300 jobs before getting just one. Just one out of 300+

As an upworker myself, I can boldly tell you that upwork is a lot more competitive these days than post covid (early 2020). Though I noticed technical jobs get very lesser bids than simple tasks as someone noted above that being very good is key but u need to take years to be that good no matter how fast a learner you are.

You also forgot that for those international/remote job, there are people in that stack in their own country as well as from other countries especially those indias (with their population) applying for that single job.

Personally, I don't discourage that wants to go into programming, what I'll say that it is not a quick rich scheme at all, you'll need to take a lot of time to be very very good (which would make u unique among the crowd) before you can be earning thousand of dollars from programming.

ReactGA:
I'm not saying what op is saying is totally wrong, but it's not totally right either

OP, you failed to put some things into consideration.

Why don't u tell us the number of application per jobs for those 30000 WordPress jobs.
I remember a nairalander that said he applied for over 300 jobs before getting just one. Just one out of 300+

As an upworker myself, I can boldly tell you that upwork is a lot more competitive these days than post covid (early 2020). Though I noticed technical jobs get very lesser bids than simple tasks as someone noted above that being very good is key but u need to take years to be that good no matter how fast a learner you are.

You also forgot that for those international/remote job, there are people in that stack in their own country as well as from other countries especially those indias (with their population) applying for that single job.

Personally, I don't discourage that wants to go into programming, what I'll say that it is not a quick rich scheme at all, you'll need to take a lot of time to be very very good (which would make u unique among the crowd) before you can be earning thousand of dollars from programming.

A lot of jobs with no applicants. Most are less than 20 applicants honestly and that's just linkedin. I never enter indeed and other job hunting sites. For the petroleum engineering the least job applicants is 56. Most jobs have over 200 applicants and that's even in advanced nations o. I can't even imagine how many people will apply to an engineering opening in Nigeria.

Programming is not a get rich quick scheme I agree but if you compare it to the alternatives. You will thank God.

tensazangetsu20:
Of recent, whenever people try to learn web development, I see comments desisting the person and telling them the field is over saturated and they should try things like data science and machine learning.

I feel its hogwash. With regards to Nigeria, the field of web development is honestly a 7 year old career to be realistic. The tech industry didnt start gaining any waves till like 5 years ago when a lot of funding went to the industry alongside the huge paystack exit. As of 2013, how many programmers even existed in Nigeria. Things were so bad that when Andela launched, they were paying people to learn to code. I mean people were being paid to learn to code. 80k alongside a brand new MacBook alongside many other benefits. Most of the people who were smart enough to take advantage of such opportunities are out of the country now as senior or mid-level devs or running very successful tech startups in Nigeria eg the founder of Eden life.

So how is a 7-year-old thing saturated? Its like people think web development is all about downloading pirated WordPress themes and installing them and you can call it a day. There are so many parts of web development that there arent even any developers in Nigeria for. Like they dont even exist. Even the so called wordpress how many people dive into the deep end?

What a lot of people are yet to understand is that the internet as we all use it is less than 30 years old. Big tech giants controlling the globe today like Amazon, Google and Netflix are less than 28 years old. Imagine what will happen when the whole wide world has the same internet access that the west has. Imagine what will be built and who will build them? Web developers. Just look at india, Bangalore (india's sillicon valley) salaries are matching those of sillicon valley now. People are earning six figure dollar incomes. The same thing is going to happen in africa, I am not optimistic about the continent sha and with the advent of remote work, your location does not stop you from earning a good income. A lot of sillicon valley startups are removing location based pay. So if you in Nigeria manage to get job with them you will be earning the same thing with your counterparts there. Imagine earning 150k USD a year in one village in osun state.

If people want to see saturation they should talk about engineering. Fields like Mechanical, Electrical, Chemical and petroleum engineering. Jobs dont exist in this fields now. Things are so bad that even with a very good first class, its still very tough getting a job except you want to go and do a Masters and PHD and end up lecturing. What of the field of law, teaching? Web developers can work anywhere in the world. Aside remotely, a lot of visa sponsorship jobs exist catering to web developers. You cant get this in engineering.

We can also take a look at linkedin jobs. I will post the picture of petroleum engineering a supposedly hotcake engineering field which a lot of people are dying for and believe in getting a big oil company job and just wordpress which a ton of people hate. Petroleum engineering has just 2000 available vacancies worldwide with most jobs having over 50 applicants while wordpress has over 30000 vacancies online. Wordpress is like the lowest hanging fruit in just web development. If I start to mention the gazillion amount of jobs in other places eh

Please web development is not saturated at all. That is a lie.

Solid article

This is why I follow you. I'll rather code or die trying

Guy, our mind works together.

I was going to create something like this. Aje!

Job no dey, job no dey but I have two interviews scheduled for next week.

Before now, I have been offered a job without interview right from my town here in Ondo State in Lagos. They couldn't continue with me because I don't reside in Lagos and the work is not 100 percent remote. That same month, I got a call from another recruiter from Abuja and an email from a recruiter in London. They couldn't hire me because of the reason above.

Funnily enough, when I showed a senior developer the CV that got me calls from 3 recruiter, he trashed it. I had to make some important edit. Same CV got me a test with access bank, I guess I didn't do well in the test because I was rejected. Although they didn't show us the test results.

A guy connected via this same NL, wanted an e-commerce store. I charged N500k he priced N100k and I said no. I fuccked up for there sha.

Point is, if there were too much jobs, no one would have looked at my horrible resume.

Granted I have a lot of rejection mails but I'm getting called for interviews and there are web jobs, local and foreign, being posted everyday on LinkedIn, indeed, even jobberman.

Those behind this propaganda are people who have never coded in their life or people who gave up on coding because it's too hard.


Lastly, abeg I get interview no mean say I get job o. I still dey job hunt o.

Karlebolu:
Guy, our mind works together.

I was going to create something like this. Aje!

Job no dey, job no dey but I have two interviews scheduled for next week.

Before now, I have been offered a job without interview right from my town here in Ondo State in Lagos. They couldn't continue with me because I don't reside in Lagos and the work is not 100 percent remote. That same month, I got a call from another recruiter from Abuja and an email from a recruiter in London. They couldn't hire me because of the reason above.

Funnily enough, when I showed a senior developer the CV that got me calls from 3 recruiter, he trashed it. I had to make some important edit. Same CV got me a test with access bank, I guess I didn't do well in the test because I was rejected. Although they didn't show us the test results.

A guy connected via this same NL, wanted an e-commerce store. I charged N500k he priced N100k and I said no. I fuccked up for there sha.

Point is, if there were too much jobs, no one would have looked at my horrible resume.

Granted I have a lot of rejection mails but I'm getting called for interviews and there are web jobs, local and foreign, being posted everyday on LinkedIn, indeed, even jobberman.

Those behind this propaganda are people who have never coded in their life or people who gave up on coding because it's too hard.


Lastly, abeg I get interview no mean say I get job o. I still dey job hunt o.

Bros so long as you are getting interviews, you will get there. When I was job hunting, I used to do an average of 4 interviews every week. I did over 20 to get my first job.

I got a job without interview, albeit it's a contract job but the pay is good. Don't be dissuaded by rumours about saturation, there is a lot of money in this space. Just hone your skills and put yourself out there. Software is the new OIL!

plat0:
I got a job without interview, albeit it's a contract job but the pay is good. Don't be dissuaded by rumours about saturation, there is a lot of money in this space. Just hone your skills and put yourself out there. Software is the new OIL!

As in eh. I remember when I was going to school for marine engineering. They said it's this it's that. It took me a year to get one interview and the job was to work for free for 5 years to get pay. Most of my guys I graduated with no work o. Even if you want to apply to jobs there's no jobs to apply to. At least with programming I go wake up everyday enter linkedin and I fit submit like 40 CVS

You guys should also encourage the females around you to bid for customer support and virtual assistant jobs. I know a couple of ladies making a killing in that niche. Tell them to get basic hubspot certifications.

plat0:
You guys should also encourage the females around you to bid for customer support and virtual assistant jobs. I know a couple of ladies making a killing in that niche. Tell them to get basic hubspot certifications.

Its not just customer support. HTML emails then add the salesforce sales cloud certification and its a different ball game entirely. You arent even writing anything aside HTML and CSS. Theres just too many roles in tech.

tensazangetsu20:
Of recent, whenever people try to learn web development, I see comments desisting the person and telling them the field is over saturated and they should try things like data science and machine learning.

I feel its hogwash. With regards to Nigeria, the field of web development is honestly a 7 year old career to be realistic. The tech industry didnt start gaining any waves till like 5 years ago when a lot of funding went to the industry alongside the huge paystack exit. As of 2013, how many programmers even existed in Nigeria. Things were so bad that when Andela launched, they were paying people to learn to code. I mean people were being paid to learn to code. 80k alongside a brand new MacBook alongside many other benefits. Most of the people who were smart enough to take advantage of such opportunities are out of the country now as senior or mid-level devs or running very successful tech startups in Nigeria eg the founder of Eden life.

So how is a 7-year-old thing saturated? Its like people think web development is all about downloading pirated WordPress themes and installing them and you can call it a day. There are so many parts of web development that there arent even any developers in Nigeria for. Like they dont even exist. Even the so called wordpress how many people dive into the deep end?

What a lot of people are yet to understand is that the internet as we all use it is less than 30 years old. Big tech giants controlling the globe today like Amazon, Google and Netflix are less than 28 years old. Imagine what will happen when the whole wide world has the same internet access that the west has. Imagine what will be built and who will build them? Web developers. Just look at india, Bangalore (india's sillicon valley) salaries are matching those of sillicon valley now. People are earning six figure dollar incomes. The same thing is going to happen in africa, I am not optimistic about the continent sha and with the advent of remote work, your location does not stop you from earning a good income. A lot of sillicon valley startups are removing location based pay. So if you in Nigeria manage to get job with them you will be earning the same thing with your counterparts there. Imagine earning 150k USD a year in one village in osun state.

If people want to see saturation they should talk about engineering. Fields like Mechanical, Electrical, Chemical and petroleum engineering. Jobs dont exist in this fields now. Things are so bad that even with a very good first class, its still very tough getting a job except you want to go and do a Masters and PHD and end up lecturing. What of the field of law, teaching? Web developers can work anywhere in the world. Aside remotely, a lot of visa sponsorship jobs exist catering to web developers. You cant get this in engineering.

We can also take a look at linkedin jobs. I will post the picture of petroleum engineering a supposedly hotcake engineering field which a lot of people are dying for and believe in getting a big oil company job and just wordpress which a ton of people hate. Petroleum engineering has just 2000 available vacancies worldwide with most jobs having over 50 applicants while wordpress has over 30000 vacancies online. Wordpress is like the lowest hanging fruit in just web development. If I start to mention the gazillion amount of jobs in other places eh

Please web development is not saturated at all. That is a lie.

electrical is not saturated.

jesmond3945:
electrical is not saturated.

It is o. No jobs there too. A lot of them are walking the streets unemployed for years upon end. Isn't it this same section a guy abandoned the thing after he was unemployed for 5 years. 2012 to 2017. Engineering is oversaturated. Electrical engineers do some c++ for embedded systems in school but hardly anything is taught to be able to write c++ on a productive level. It's very saturated.

tensazangetsu20:

It is o. No jobs there too. A lot of them are walking the streets unemployed for years upon end. Isn't it this same section a guy abandoned the thing after he was unemployed for 5 years. 2012 to 2017. Engineering is oversaturated. Electrical engineers do some c++ for embedded systems in school but hardly anything is taught to be able to write c++ on a productive level. It's very saturated.

you have scared me, so no hope for engineers like me.

jesmond3945:
you have scared me, so no hope for engineers like me.

It's very hard to get a job as an engineer if you dont have solid connections. If you are still in school, start learning coding now and take it very seriously. I used to spend my time watching movies in school. If I knew about coding then, I would be a senior developer now.

Karlebolu:

Job no dey, job no dey but I have two interviews scheduled for next week.

Aje, cut soap for me.

The reality is obvious, assuming I apply for 100 jobs and eventually I get 1 of these jobs and maybe i get paid 10$ and i work 120 hours per month that's almost 500K but in my prospective line of profession, the top 4 biggest companies doesn't pay Graduate Trainee up to 300K monthly and I have to compete with like 5000 applicants for a the job and guess the numbers of people that'll be employed less than 30 in total. In my opinion that's obviously what qualifies for saturation.
For me, I love to explore and acquire knowledge so assuming I learn coding and didn't make money from it(which is unlikely ) I will be able to stand among my peers and educate them on how Arrays work in JAVASCRIPT. That for me is worth the efforts.

PS: my profession is one that's so streamlined that to move away from the conventional path seem like an impossibility for a hungry looking fresh off the boat graduate. Ohhh I didn't mention, I'm someone who loves my space, I prefer solitude and quietness. Should I decide to join my peers for office 7-9 job, I may likely go nut for the chaos and office politics that revolves around conventional job.

plat0:
You guys should also encourage the females around you to bid for customer support and virtual assistant jobs. I know a couple of ladies making a killing in that niche. Tell them to get basic hubspot certifications.

Exclusive to female?

plat0:
You guys should also encourage the females around you to bid for customer support and virtual assistant jobs. I know a couple of ladies making a killing in that niche. Tell them to get basic hubspot certifications.

Please can you enlighten and put me through?

tensazangetsu20:

Its not just customer support. HTML emails then add the salesforce sales cloud certification and its a different ball game entirely. You arent even writing anything aside HTML and CSS. Theres just too many roles in tech.

Please enlighten me, I have basic knowledge of HTML and CSS.

This days once u watch 2hours video u are programmer , if u know what u are doing in the field trust me , u will never lack in programming at least 7-10million annual profit

Bigshoe2028:

This days once u watch 2hours video u are programmer , if u know what u are doing in the field trust me , u will never lack in programming at least 7-10million annual profit

Anyone can call themselves a programmer but what separates a programmer from non-programmers is the ability to code.

tensazangetsu20:

Python has its use cases in data science and machine learning but it's not just python. You would need to learn other statistical tools and then statistics. There's very few jobs in data science in Nigeria it's still a new field so one might learn all this and be unemployed. For web development you can build websites with python frameworks like Django or flask but there's very few jobs using it so it's like a waste at the end at least to me.

Please don't indoctrinate these folks.

shegzhkn:


Please don't indoctrinate these folks.

It seems you are a pythonista. Anyway it's just my experience. Everyone will eventually make their own choice las las na.

@tensazangetsu20. All these people saying programming is saturated are not doing their findings right. I swear, they should go to LinkedIn, indeed, dice and see jobs full everywhere for them.