Saint99:
Go for Civil Engineering. In the nearest future, anyone with a good design software or App can design a building.

just like saying nobody should study pharmacy because every untrained chemist can dispense drugs

bittertongue:
Achitect,they are always recognized as the achitecture of the design,they are always needed till the project is done, engineer leaves after the structural design is done

Civil engineering is more than just building. Architects have nothing to do on a bridge design and construction, Highway design, Dams, Jetties, and other structures civil engineers work on. The only place civil engineers meet architects is on building structures

tensazangetsu20:

Never I said all engineering courses are useless to study in Nigeria except electrical and computer. The people arguing are undergraduates wey body E dey shark them.

Dumb take, I am a civil engineer and I as well as a lot of my colleagues are doing well. Stop projecting your experience on others.

DEADALIVE:

You are the one misleading the guy....the contractor or construction company is incharge of paying everyone....
The architect can not achieve his objectives without the structural engineer if not all his designs will be modified on site as construction proceeds

An architect is the head of a design team. He can also act as the project manager or the contractor. This is standard practice. But this is Nigeria

Pabloma:

Architect Is the head of building construction team which includes the following
Civil Engineer ( Structural Engineer )
Quantity Surveyor
Mechanical And Electrical Engineer
Builder
ELV Engineer........they all depend on Architectural design to survive........... So Architecture is the way

Does an architect build road, bridges, dams, jetties, airways and other structures civil engineers design and construct? You people have a myopic view of civil engineering but think you know so much. Any civil engineer who applies himself to be better will eventually make it, the start might be tough though

Aarenasbaba:
Architecture.... I studied building

If you're able to face ur studies squarely and know more practical, before ur 2nd to 3rd year. You can b designing building for clients and b earning

You'll design and draw then our yeye countrymen will pay you peanut and give a Civil engineer the main peanut butter to build. Different stages till the building ends, the CE is cashing out. Then after that wonderful design instead of getting referrals or repeated patronage people will borrow that your design and then it becomes ubiquitous within a wink.

Architecture...not in this poppycock country

Architecture is more constricted to building projects. Civil engineering on the other hand is vast. Civil encompasses all of buildings, roads, bridge construction, dams, survey, waster resources, waste management, geotechnical, etc. If there are no jobs in buildings, the architect might find it hard. The civil engineer on the other hand has other options when the job isn't forthcoming in building. So which do you think is best? The one that restricts you or the one with several options?

NB: This is in no way undermining architecture as you can still make it big in it. My concern is on versatility.

DEADALIVE:

You are the one misleading the guy....the contractor or construction company is incharge of paying everyone....
The architect can not achieve his objectives without the structural engineer if not all his designs will be modified on site as construction proceeds

First of all, I’m forced to say that you are wrong, the CLIENT is in charge of paying everyone and not the Contractor. Infact the contractor depends on the Payment Certificate as issued by the Architect on a project to get his payment from the Client.

However, my analogy is only in reference to the example which he gave and which is a fallacy.
The Architects works before the Civil Engineer comes in all projects.
However in small scale projects like duplexes, etc whic does not involve tender boards, etc, you must agree with me that the Architect is always the only member of the construction industry that is commissioned by the client.
The architect in turn then employs a civil engineer to do the structures of his designs and pays him off.

That is the analogy I was giving to negate his claim that it is the civil engineer who employs the architect.
In that vein, I still insist that he was misleading young people.

However, I agree with you when you say that architects can not achieve his objectives without the inputs of others. But then same can be said of the others like the civil engineers. They will have nothing to work with without the Architects.

It’s A TEAM WORK

Saint99:
Go for Civil Engineering. In the nearest future, anyone with a good design software or App can design a building.

Are you for real? So funny , designing a building is now done without brief and proper functionality of purpose with no cost implication applied to the asthetical values abi?
.
..na your Client go sack you no be me.....

Richardjcooper:


An architect is the head of a design team. He can also act as the project manager or the contractor. This is standard practice. But this is Nigeria

Oga once you are a project manager it does not mean what your discipline is....Anybody can be the head regardless of what profession you study....Its all about business and profit making for the organization.

I am just surprised that people are comparing civil engineering and architecture. For ur information, civil is a superset of architecture.

But better still, go for what u gat more passion for.

Emyben:


That is quackery. Stop encouraging quackery.
But then in Nigeria, everyone can do everything tho.
An architect in many instances with the use of some structural softwares and little coaching can do the structural drawing for his designs. So, that cancels your idea about a civil Engr doing an architects work.

Everyone can do everything but that is QUACKERY AND ILLEGAL!

I didn't say an architect can't do structural drawings, in my secondary school days I was taught by an architectural lecturer who knows how to draft structural drawings into sections, so I was able to build up from there.
An architect does not have the knowledge of structural integrity of a building and the safety of factor over his counter part (civil engineer). So in such instances an architect won't be considered for such.
In material science for example, anything involving designing of anything involves the use of materials to create such designs. A Civil Engineer with the knowledge of behavior of material can tell through analysis if the material to be used will be suitable for production. Why an architect will be less involved in such.
So chill an architect still has a lot of constrain.

Emyben:


First of all, I’m forced to say that you are wrong, the CLIENT is in charge of paying everyone and not the Contractor. Infact the contractor depends on the Payment Certificate as issued by the Architect on a project to get his payment from the Client.

However, my analogy is only in reference to the example which he gave and which is a fallacy.
The Architects works before the Civil Engineer comes in. In large projects, it’s wrong yes.
However in small scale projects like duplexes, etc whic does not involve tender boards, etc, you must agree with me that the Architect is always the only member of the construction industry that is commissioned by the client.
The architect in turn then employs a civil engineer to do the structures of his designs and pays him off.

That is the analogy I was giving to negate his claim that it is the civil engineer who employs the architect.
In that vein, I still insist that he was misleading young people.

However, I agree with you when you say that architects can not achieve his objectives without the inputs of others. But then same can be said of the others like the civil engineers. They will have nothing to work with without the Architects.

It’s A TEAM WORK

The from my own little experience while i worked with cranebourg and dantata construction company...The architect basically works for the company and he does exactly what he is instructed to do bu the project manager bearing in mind cost valuation.

Base on your abilities..I'll say architecture

Both of them are good and the job prospects are great.Now, listen to your inner mind and go for the ONE you have more passion for, because, that will surely see you through the course .
With Passion, you'll see the advantages and your creativity will be unleashed & you'll graduate in flying colours & not only getting good jobs but creating jobs too because both fields offer many oppurtunities.for example,you can be a consultant,field,support,content creator engineer,e.t.c, But remember that PASSION should be your driving force.Good luck

ArcSEMPECJ:


Are you for real? So funny , designing a building is now done without brief and proper functionality of purpose with no cost implication applied to the asthetical values abi?
.
..na your Client go sack you no be me.....

His point won't even work. After every drawing in an urban area you will need the seal of an architect prior to registrations of the building

brandsoncharlie:

I didn't say an architect can't do structural drawings, in my secondary school days I was taught by an architectural lecturer who knows how to draft structural drawings into sections, so I was able to build up from there.
An architect does not have the knowledge of structural integrity of a building and the safety of factor over his counter part (civil engineer).
So chill an architect still has a lot of constrain.

Read my point again, I said we should stop encouraging quackery.

A civil engineer that undertakes architecture designs is a quack! He is not qualified to do so.
Same goes to the architect that does a structural drawing!

The both can have a little idea of the other’s works but they lack the proper knowledge. That’s what I’m saying.

slawormiir:
Damnnn niggar
Isoright
Ogbeni write jamb first....then probably sit for post utme or if no postutme then ensure you have good ssce results to increase your points then wait patiently make the university of your choice decide your destiny

Then after you graduate....the country go decide where you go for work...

See Ogbeni.....na university of Benin throw way me go computer science department...I nor chose am

Them nearly use old programming language frustrate me..na so so F I dey get if I check results that year...pascal F, fortran F. I re-write the course them tear me F again...After I come manage graduate.....I nor see work..na bombing and key board warrior I come later be

He shock you abi....

e shock me o. True tho

If you study Architecture, the Civil Engineer is your boss

You can sponsor yourself throughout if you can learn drafting before gaining admission. Go for architecture bro

DEADALIVE:

The from my own little experience while i worked with cranebourg and dantata construction company...The architect basically works for the company and he does exactly what he is instructed to do bu the project manager bearing in mind cost valuation.

That is a Company.
When it comes to Projects, companies becomes single entities.
A Construction company can be owned by anybody, it can be owned by an architect, a civil engineer or even a non professional.
But then when a project commences, they become an entity answerable to a Client who pays them. The client can be an individual, government or an entity like a company too.

Now, a client is only mandated to pay a contractor when a Payment certificate is issued and the Payment certificate can only be issued when the AI (Architects Instruction) is certified by the Architect to have been carried out by the Contractor.
It is standard and legal construction procedure.

Like I said, it’s a TEAM WORK.
I don’t like to see people comparing and downplaying the other professions. Everyone is important to the goal.

tensazangetsu20:
None. They are both useless.

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lokito:

His point won't even work. After every drawing in an urban area you will need the seal of an architect prior to registrations of the building

Well, may be he meant a cage poultry design of 2-3 chicks ......

Baselm:


Civil engineering is more than just building. Architects have nothing to do on a bridge design and construction, Highway design, Dams, Jetties, and other structures civil engineers work on. The only place civil engineers meet architects is on building structures

Uncle..haba see how u dey spew rubbish...see as you get confidence for the rubbish wey u dey talk... nawah oo

LienwaltAbel:

Ignorance . You think architecture is all about designing houses. Do you think people spend five fucking years learning how to design houses?

Artificial Intelligence might soon take over architecture and design
According to a report from McKinsey, AI will benefit automation and businesses but will change work activities of landscapers, designers

https://www.architecturaldigest.in/content/artificial-intelligence-architecture-design-ai/

Oggolden001:
A degree in architecture nd that in civil engineering which is more sustainable in the nigerian society? Please i need advice bcuz i'm finding it hard to choose btw this two. Heres me like, i b average maths student wey like to draw alot especially building related drawings/environmental drawings too. Heres my jamb subj comb, maths, physics, chem nd english. Please advice from experience persons in the field will be veryly appreciated. (if there is any word as such)

Bro pick Architecture...

Legendaryd:
Bro pick Architecture...

Thank you sir.

Oggolden001:
A degree in architecture nd that in civil engineering which is more sustainable in the nigerian society? Please i need advice bcuz i'm finding it hard to choose btw this two. Heres me like, i b average maths student wey like to draw alot especially building related drawings/environmental drawings too. Heres my jamb subj comb, maths, physics, chem nd english. Please advice from experience persons in the field will be veryly appreciated. (if there is any word as such)

in a better country... The two together is structural engineering. But Nigeria can divide even egg yoke into grains. All just for embezzling money for each department and they can't even build a cable suspension bridge themselves, they don't even have any.

Emyben:


Read my point again, I said we should stop encouraging quackery.

A civil engineer that undertakes architecture designs is a quack! He is not qualified to do so.
Same goes to the architect that does a structural drawing!

The both can have a little idea of the other’s works but they lack the proper knowledge. That’s what I’m saying.

In civil engineering they're sub fields like structural engineering that only pertains to structural analysis and drawings which is a branch of civil engineering.
In building drawings there's construction engineering which is under civil engineering design building like residential buildings, skyscrapers and others, before engaging in building drawings you must meet certain requirements and standards from professional bodies ABET(accreditation board for engineering and technology) which requires you to obtain a training in programs such as auto card civil 3D softwares, advanced softwares such as REVIT, ETABs, STAAD etc.
Please chill, architecture still has a long way to be compared.

Legendaryd:

Bro pick Architecture...

thank you. But they are saying dat archi is very competetive. Is dat true? Nd is it also true that they design only building?

witworth:
in a better country... The two together is structural engineering. But Nigeria can divide even egg yoke into grains. All just for embezzling money for each department and they can't even build a cable suspension bridge themselves, they don't even have any.

In a ‘better country’. The two are not same. They are completely different with different career paths. Haba na.

Architecture is a very old prestigious discipline
Civil Engineering is another prestigious discipline itself.
They are not same. They work together but are definitely not same and especially in working ‘better’ countries.