To redpill/incel/MGTOW lurkers: I found the way out

I bet you think you’re right? That you know the “truth”. You think you’re in a “special group”. Better than people who “date”?

Grow up. It’s embarrassing and pathetic.

I came to this realisation a few days ago and I’ve felt much better since:

a) Women are humans. They’re just people! They are not all bad. Some are really good, some really bad, most somewhere in between! EXACTLY like us. Yeah, they’re a little different in some ways, but by and large we are quite similar. Stop thinking women have to be perfect little angles. Are you? Are guys? No. Also stop thinking so low of women when they do the EXACT same things we do such as promiscuity and cheating... we do those things just as much!

b) Stop relying on women/sex to change your life, make you happy! This is very, very important... like I said above, girls are just people. Having sex or having a GF can make you less lonely, and bring you happiness, but to be honesty they aren’t the end all be all. You need to be happy on your own! I think a lot of “incels/MGTOW” think women need to come and “save” them, or that girls and sex are the gateways to happiness, thus, these guys feel betrayed and left out because they aren’t experiencing that. However if you see women as just other people, and sex & relationships are fine, but not the end all be all - you’ll be much happier and not think that way anymore.

I’m in my mid twenties , I’ll probably never get laid or a nice relationship. It’s fine! I’m not entitled to anything, no one is. If girls want to have sex with successful and attractive guys - guess what!? That’s their choice! You should just accept it. I want to love and respect women, be happy and have a healthy mindset REGARDLESS of my sex/love life. So I might never have sex or anything, and guess what! I’m gonna be happy nonetheless. We ain’t entitled to ANYTHING, girls are just people, like us and they aren’t responsible for our happiness.

I am on the path to become a better person. I have got quite a few messages from self proclaimed “incels” once they saw my posts. This sub has a lot of “lurkers” this is for them, please guys for your own sake and for the sake of those around you, take my advice. I already feel much better, I am posting this to spread positivity!]

All these redpill vids I used to watch and never once saw a guy blame himself for his relationship problems.

I just think it is crazy how all you redpill guys never talk about how guys can be just as manipulative or trashy as women. All you guys talk about is how if you want companionship, just get a dog because women aren't loyal, but I have known some disloyal ass guys too. You guys just talk about how all women are out to screw you over and how women over 25 have a low sexual marketplace value, which is bullshit. Many women over the age of 25 are very good looking and have more to offer than their pussy or their looks. I'm just tired of how bitter you redpill guys are and how you don't blame yourselves and take responsibility for choosing these shitty women that you always complain about.

Red Pill Coaches and “teachings” are not only TOXIC, but they are FRAUDS and here’s why

It’s bad enough that these so called red pill “coaches” and “gurus” spew bullshit that poison the minds of impressionable men and even some women. What makes it even worse is that not only do they not practice what they preach, they often practice the OPPOSITE. Let me explain.

Donovan Sharpe:

- Claims his girlfriend is in her late 30s (actually 44)

- Despises single mothers and says a man should never raise another mans child (adopted his niece because her mother has drug problems)

- Claims a man needs to take the leadership role and be dominant in the relationship (his girl runs his business and wears the pants in the relationship)

- Tells men to never get married (secretly married his girl, who is now his wife 2-3 years ago)

Rollo Tomassi:

- Says you should never date a woman who’s younger than you, especially if they’re past the “wall” which is around age 30. He married his wife who is 4 years older when he was 30.

- Often claims that what makes a woman valuable is her fertility and her looks (at the time they got married, his wife was not as fertile as she once was, and in my personal opinion she’s not very physically attractive)

- Says that a man in his 30s is at his peak SMV and thus should be dating women in their early to mid 20s which is their peak SMV (married an older women as stated earlier)

- Claims to have had a lot of success with women back when he was younger (people who know him personally say he’s very awkward and socially inept, which brings this claim to question)

Richard Cooper:

- Frequently makes videos bashing single mothers (has frequently dated single mothers and provided for their children even after being divorced initially, which he claims was his red pill moment)

- Claims to be an authority figure in dating (only dated single mothers after being divorced, and has no evidence of him hanging out with women, let alone beautiful and young ones which red pillers always claim they can do)

- Charges men $2k/hour for consultation calls for dating/business advice (a former associate has claimed that he overheard him read the Iron Laws of Tomassi from the Rational Male verbatim during one of his consultation calls, then when confronted by his associate he laughed it off and said it was true)

- Runs a business for helping men with debt (the website uses fake testimonials and stock photos from Google to represent the people in the fake testimonials)

TL;DR
These red pill coaches are not only feeding men toxic bullshit, but they don’t even believe it or follow it themselves. It’s all one big cash grab to take advantage of the insecure and traumatized men who stumble upon this content to begin with.

I have always found the RP obsession on female fertility to be... creepy and disturbing. It seems to be another way RP tries to devalue women, by focusing how older women are less fertile than younger women, even though the same applies to men. Everyone ages, so do reproductive organs for both sexes. In real life I have never heard any guys openly discussing how "fertile" they want their women to be, or how they won't date or marry a woman because of the "quality" of her eggs. It's dismissive and devaluating since it essentially reduces the value of a woman to her uterus. There is also way more to fertility than what someone's age is.

I have known many women who had trouble conceiving since their early 20's, and others get pregnant after 35 really fast and have healthy babies. It's such a personal topic that is unique to every individual and it's just another way RP looks at everything so black and white.

And also Advanced paternal age in men (around 40 years and up) has been shown to be linked to be problematic for having children, such as higher chance of miscarriage, birth defects. There are plenty of sources online that show this, one is here:

https://www.contemporaryobgyn.net/view/reproductive-risks-advanced-paternal-age

The quality, motility, and count of sperm goes down as a man ages


Learn to question and think for yourself.

ubunja:
Gents ignore the troll.


It basically registered its account today to be a nuisance.

ubunja:

LOL it has quickly deactivated.

Junnior:

What you posted here is very sensitive because we have people with varying religious beliefs here.

You should have ignored both him and executer like you didn't see any of that.

Trying to prove you're not what you're accused of only makes you look ridiculous. You don't have any image here to protect. It's a faceless forum.

In an attempt to defend yourself, you've brought religious sentiments into the thread.

I've said it before: the only thing anyone here says that truly matters is RP knowledge. Any other nonsense should be ignored.

Martinez39s:
No fault of mine, and it's not my business how people choose to see it. I am not responsible for people's reaction.

Well, don't act like you are blind. Did you not see where I wrote to you that I was trying to enlighten Executer to prevent him from taking that clown seriously? Why then are you still insisting that I am trying to defend myself and prove "what I am not"? Why are you bent on painting me to be someone who is easily triggered and always trying to prove a point and defend himself? I was not defending myself and I was not trying to prove a point.

Please, read my post very well and don't attribute anything to me; don't annoy me. I was not debating religion here and I was not inviting people to debate religion. If people can't understand my post and they decide to make an issue out of it by becoming too sensitive and discussing religion, that's their problem. I am not responsible for the actions of grown adults and there is nothing wrong in informing a member of this group of a troll and his intention.

Please, read my post well.

DeSepiero:


When you're in a corporate setting where you have same earning capacity with your coworkers, how do you maintain frame and stand out as Alpha?

When you have financial independence and earn well like the men you've mentioned (cubana and Co) how do you stand out among your other Millionaires counterparts?

Oyin2212:

Can you dive deeper bro?
Expatiate a bit?

Drenimarcus: