I don't trust the FG when it comes to supreme court

A government that made someone that came fourth in the Primaries to become Governor can do anything.

I don't trust that bag carrying Sharia CJN

The Supreme Court cannot reverse itself..

When the Lagos State govt sued the FG at the Supreme Court over VAT, the Supreme Court threw out the case on technical ground that the case concerned revenue and should start from the Federal High Court.

That was why Rivers State started the case in a Federal High Court.

fergie001:

Which loss?

Why are they trying to smuggle VAT into the Exclusive Legislative list?

I wanted to argue vigorously but no need.the federal govt will even gain more from states collecting VAT on a second thought.the current fg share is 15% and fct alone generates 20%.at least 40% of vat is generated from the ports and airports under fg jurisdiction.so,in principle the fg will benefit.the losers will be firs and 31 states....so,the court can rule anyhow it feels like

Mayeldah:
I don't trust the FG when it comes to supreme court

A government that made someone that came fourth in the Primaries to become Governor can do anything.

I don't trust that bag carrying Sharia CJN

That uzodinma actually won

garfield1:


I wanted to argue vigorously but no need.the federal govt will even gain more from states collecting VAT on a second thought.the current fg share is 15% and fct alone generates 20%.at least 40% of vat is generated from the ports and airports under fg jurisdiction.so,in principle the fg will benefit.the losers will be firs and 31 states....so,the court can rule anyhow it feels like

The aim of this case is not for the FG to lose. The 'meat' of the matter is that States should benefit from their own VAT.

FG will gain....States will also benefit from their sweat.

fergie001:

The aim of this case is not for the FG to lose. The 'meat' of the matter is that States should benefit from their own VAT.

FG will gain....States will also benefit from their sweat.

Oga,in reality only 4 or 5 states are benefitting.
One day,oil producing states will take fg to court also

garfield1:
Oga,in reality only 4 or 5 states are benefitting.

One day,oil producing states will take fg to court also

Stop hammering on this thing.....Even your Gov has said he is looking inwards to boost his IGR.

What is this 4 or 5 States you are talking about, others should work. The excuse is lame.

So, you want a Gov to sit down, fold his legs and be collecting VAT abi?

This issue is not about who wins or loses, but it is a Constitutional matter.

fergie001:

Don't mind dem.

Their case is like a small child that is causing trouble and looking for way to get other purnished for his/her crime

engineerboat:
Their case is like a small child that is causing trouble and looking for way to get other purnished for his/her crime

The way the FG is even trying to bamboozle everyone calls for concern, as if we are in a military regime.

fergie001:

Stop hammering on this thing.....Even your Gov has said he is looking inwards to boost his IGR.

What is this 4 or 5 States you are talking about, others should work. The excuse is lame.

So, you want a Gov to sit down, fold his legs and be collecting VAT abi?

This issue is not about who wins or loses, but it is a Constitutional matter.

Survival is more than a constitutional matter sir.it is about life and death.crs generates 2 bil from vat and gets over 20 bil.on its own,crs can never surpass 10 billion vat.so,I cannot support it.we have lost oil wells to aks,we cabt afford to lose another revenue source

FG is taking them to people that are under their payroll. I laughed in Swahili. We already
know who supreme court will favour. Everything in this country is just a scam.

Ibkhaleel:
State Governors In Nigeria:
Satanic Agents Of Retrogression...
The major problem of Nigeria is the state governors. The biggest agents of the looting & underdevelopment of Nigeria are the state governors.
36 governors collect almost 50% (when you add that of the LGs) of the entire national revenue every month in statutory allocations, squander all the money, then with doped hate & primitive ethno-religious insanity get all of us fixated at the remaining 50% in the hands of the FG meant to fix the problems of 200 million Nigerians.
When they are called to account, they claim ethnic or religious persecution, godfather interference or federal government witch hunting of them & their state to further distract the already distracted & hate doped citizens of their states.
The local government which is the tier of government created to bring development to the grassroot & rural communities, all 774 of them have their funds in billions of naira monthly from national revenues in statutory allocations as well as IGRs all cornered by the state governors with the LGAs abandoned, overgrown with weed & home to rodents & reptiles.
The state assembly & state judiciary, which are the only 2 organs of government empowered by our constitution to ensure transparency at the states & local governments as well as check the excesses of state governors are all seized by the governors to put a lid on their wicked embezzlement of resources meant for the development of their states.
All the policies & Executive Orders of President Buhari to liberate the local governments, state assemblies & state judiciaries from the armpit of state governors have been roundly rejected by them & court cases even instituted against the FG to stop the reforms.
On top of all these, they have immunity from prosecution covering them.
APC, intent on fulfilling its progressive developmental agenda promise to the people, have to find a way round this kleptocratic conundrum & came up with direct primaries with no automatic ticket for sitting governors to help the party select qualified candidates with track records of integrity & push sitting governors to perform well in office as a yard stick for re-election.
This was the last straw that broke the carmel's back. Those governors without a single element of progressivism in their blood or dictionary, those who failed woefully in their states in every governance performance index available, those whose tenures are expiring but want to install their stooges, cronies, son inlaws, daughters, sons, partners in crime to cover their tracks, the ministers, top government officials that want to be governors or install their own interests as governors, not only roundly rejected direct primaries but all ganged up to unleash satanic vengeance on the party heirachy & systems.
They not only ensured this effort at progressivism & entrenchment of good governance in Nigeria by their party was roundly defeated even at the cost of costing their party many states they won with the promise of progressivism & development, they collaborated with their bought media & judiciary to make their party ungovernable which eventually culminated into the sacking of a duely elected National Chairman & National Working Committee that delivered a resounding all round victory for the party at all levels in the last general elections.
Now, these governors in APC, the ministers & top government officials of APC who have governorship & presidential ambitions have united with their counterparts in PDP to either hijack or destroy the ruling party ahead of 2023 so that they will squash this country's march to progressivism, erode the gains made in the last 6 years on prudence, accountability, transparency & cut in wastages.
They ganged up in Edo, emptied the funds meant for the development of Edo state, mortgaged the state's allocation for the next 4 years & recently have been bringing in into the party shameless scumbergs, documented divisive enemies of Nigeria & hate merchants all to swell their numbers & add new accomplices in their dare devil fight to return this country back to conservative retrogressiveness, reckless impunity in public office, insatiable greed & insane primitive accumulations.
They are joined in this treacherous wicked gang up against the Nigerian masses by their foreign governments collaborators whose countries warehouse the loots of these governors, proceeds of corruption from Nigeria & who are desperate to see the end of APC because their own economies that rely on these loots are currently in serious trouble.
A develeped Nigeria, that was hitherto a dumping ground for their cheap consumer goods & agricultural products, but that is now industrializing, bridging her infrastructural deficits, keeping her citizens in employment, producing enough domestic goods & agricultural products to not only feed its 200 million population but also for export is not good news to them & their economies.
The agenda of these selfish retrogressive minded APC governors, former governors & their foreign collaborators in teaming up with their parent Umbrella Pirates party is to continue to spread poverty in our land because Nigerians desperate to survive, can never think of any patriotism, nor ask the right questions, neither will they understand good governance in any other context other than 4 cups of rice, 4 cups of beans, 4 tubers of yam, 4 litres of kerosene, 4 yards of wax wrapper & 4 thousand naira.
Is this what your vote is worth for a 4 year tenure?

Gb'enu e soun ode

Do not be fooled by that terrorist northern leech, he was only referring to APC governors from the south west and PDP governors. All the crap he's written is still wailing against the South. Criminal northerner.

dragunov:


I have a huge feeling that you are not responsible for this write up. The reason being that it is devoid of the usual hate filled comments against the good people of the South and against other religious belief systems. For the 1st time you included your thieves too. I still doubt you wrote this though. You will begin to be taken seriously on this forum if you address the crimes of Fulani herdsmen too. Otherwise, you must have done copy and paste.

MacBan:
Do not be fooled by that terrorist northern leech, he was only referring to APC governors from the south west and PDP governors. All the crap he's written is still wailing against the South. Criminal northerner.

I tell you, I have never seen an obstinately stu.pid fellow as this ibkhaleel.

garfield1:
Survival is more than a constitutional matter sir.it is about life and death.crs generates 2 bil from vat and gets over 20 bil.on its own,crs can never surpass 10 billion vat.so,I cannot support it.we have lost oil wells to aks,we can't afford to lose another revenue source

How did you lose wells to AKS? The Court.

A family matter or a Constitutional matter. Rivers and Lagos can also tell you it is survival for them.

The best for the FG is to sit and discuss. A time is coming, we will begin to talk about minerals & raw material deposits been taken away from the Exclusive Legislative lists. My State is not any better, but for how long can we survive the way we are.

The System now doesn't reward hard work. How can you justify that VAT shouldn't be controlled by States but another State manages & controls their own resource (Gold) and sell to the apex bank contrary to Section 44(3) of the Exclusive Legislative list.

That's a typical northern terrorist for you. He sounds learned but his reasoning is nothing to write home about.

dragunov:


I tell you, I have never seen an obstinately stu.pid fellow as this ibkhaleel.

Quit wasting your energy on the aboki...

fergie001:

How did you lose wells to AKS? The Court.

A family matter or a Constitutional matter. Rivers and Lagos can also tell you it is survival for them.

The best for the FG is to sit and discuss. A time is coming, we will begin to talk about minerals & raw material deposits been taken away from the Exclusive Legislative lists. My State is not any better, but for how long can we survive the way we are.

The System now doesn't reward hard work.

fergie001:

How did you lose wells to AKS? The Court.

A family matter or a Constitutional matter. Rivers and Lagos can also tell you it is survival for them.

The best for the FG is to sit and discuss. A time is coming, we will begin to talk about minerals & raw material deposits been taken away from the Exclusive Legislative lists. My State is not any better, but for how long can we survive the way we are.

The System now doesn't reward hard work. How can you justify that VAT shouldn't be controlled by States but another State manages & controls their own resource (Gold) and sell to the apex bank contrary to Section 44(3) of the Exclusive Legislative list.

No state sells gold.you are now bowing to petty propaganda

garfield1:
No state sells gold.you are now bowing to petty propaganda

The fact is that the CBN, just like in agriculture, is willing to invest in mining, as part of its Anchor Borrowers’ Programme whereby the apex bank will invest an amount for the State Government to supply it with the gold as proceeds of the investment,”

They didn't sell to the Apex Bank?

Zamfara Gold

fergie001:




They didn't sell to the Apex Bank?

Zamfara Gold

You should have read the article na and be properly guided.zamfara bought the gold from srtisanal miners according to your link...even though gold belongs to the fg,they can lease out some mining fields or sell outrightly to private owners or state government...am not unmindful of the fact that we also have illegal mining just as we have oil bunkering...

Finally,when fayemi was minister of solid minerals,state were given licences to mine solid minerals...as usual,misapprehended the situation...
By the way according to ajuri ngilale,fg generates 63% of vat,states and lgas the remaining 37%..it is becoming clearer

garfield1:
You should have read the article na and be properly guided.zamfara bought the gold from srtisanal miners according to your link...even though gold belongs to the fg,they can lease out some mining fields or sell outrightly to private owners or state government...am not unmindful of the fact that we also have illegal mining just as we have oil bunkering...

Finally,when fayemi was minister of solid minerals,state were given licences to mine solid minerals...as usual,misapprehended the situation...

By the way according to ajuri ngilale,fg generates 63% of vat,states and lgas the remaining 37%..it is becoming clearer

This your back and forth is very unnecessary.

First you said no State Govt sells gold. Did Zamfara State Govt sell to the apex bank?

fergie001:

This your back and forth is very unnecessary.

First you said no State Govt sells gold. Did Zamfara State Govt sell to the apex bank?

What exactly is your point? My point is that no state totally mine its mineral resources and sell directly as you were implying? What brought this addendum is you claiming that states like zamfara manage and control it's resources

garfield1:
What exactly is your point? My point is that no state totally mine its mineral resources and sell directly as you were implying? What brought this addendum is you claiming that states like zamfara manage and control it's resources

You said Zamfara selling gold is petty propaganda, we both agree now that they sold gold to the FG for 5 billion naira.

You said States were given licenses to mine under Fayemi as Minister and now the FG has granted Zamfara State Govt a buying and selling license, so what's your point actually?

They still do not manage it?

See, leaving the VAT-issue to commence an argument on Zamfara Gold will not help the discussion at hand.

The issue of VAT is the bone of contention and it is one that I wholesomely welcome.

MacBan:
That's a typical northern terrorist for you. He sounds learned but his reasoning is nothing to write home about.

Exactly. If everybody reasons like him, there will be chaos and anarchy everywhere. He is actually a real terrorist.