odysey:
I get you sha. Let's see how things play out
NB did you read cornflakes for Jihad?

I had come across it but didn't give it much attention, it is a Northern/Islamic problem, ours is to get ready for counter terrorism whoever their sponsors is, they should steer clear of Igboland or we capture them alive, strip their terrorist naked in padded room of worldly music and feed them pig until they are too dirty for paradise or their virgins

AlexBells:

I had come across it but didn't give it much attention, it is a Northern/Islamic problem, ours is to get ready for counter terrorism whoever their sponsors is, they should steer clear of Igboland or we capture them alive, strip their terrorist naked in padded room of worldly music and feed them pig until they are too dirty for paradise or their virgins

how do we prepare for counter terrorism against those supposed to counter and fight it?
It not a northern problem as these same folks have their goons in the government, across all states

odysey:
how do we prepare for counter terrorism against those supposed to counter and fight it?
It not a northern problem as these same folks have their goons in the government, across all states

I think the problem here is that you see Nigeria as one country, Nigeria Military can honestly not fight tribal militias becuase their people in the Military are sympathetic to their aim

It is only regional or tribal approach that can help, greater intelligence and technology would keep AlaIgbo safe, only classified weapons are restricted in Nigeria

There is no law in Nigeria banning researches, when we come up with our technology and sciences, it will still take the Senate to amend the constitution to make such weapons illegal otherwise state assemblies can make it illegal in their respective states and Igbo state assemblies have better things to discuss than our homemade weapons.

We will still frustrate them in the senate and House of Rep, and our research programs shall continue.

paramakina202:


So is IPOB prepared to defeat Nigeria army in a conventional warfare?That is the only route to Biafra actualisation.If you can't then don't try because war is not sports rather it is costly and ndi Igbo can't afford to fight another unprepared war that will end in another humiliating surrender.IPOB should buy jet fighters and armoured Tanks then I will enlist in the Biafra liberation army.

what you need to know is that the last thing Nigeria who is in debt of #55trillion need right now is a conventional war. War needs money, where will Nigeria get more loans from?

kollinz1234:
what you need to know is that the last thing Nigeria who is in debt of #55trillion need right now is a conventional war. War needs money, where will Nigeria get more loans from?

That loan is more reason why war with Nigeria is dangerous, would you want someone owing you money to die?, apart from Russia and UK, China would send few of their aircraft careers to Nigeria to protect it from disintegration make story no enter their loan lol

AlexBells:

Don't insult the collective power of the Igbo nation by using the word giving freedom, freedom from who, a fellow black tribe, lol, By the time they see real might they would all go back to begging for the secession clause like Ahmedu Bellow, Tafawa and Awolowo, you think this generation of Igbos are freedom fighters, we are slave raiders, no man ever subjugated the Igbo nation and not in our generation, I don't fight for freedom, I'm no slave, we should run it in our terms that's all I'm saying

forgive me to say that you are naive

kollinz1234:
what you need to know is that the last thing Nigeria who is in debt of #55trillion need right now is a conventional war. War needs money, where will Nigeria get more loans from?

While you will depend on the donations from diaspora to fund your own war.
We didn't lean anything from the first war.Who do you think the West(America,EU,Uk) will back in case of another war with Nigeria?
If those countrie support Nigeria once again the so called diaspora funding will be blocked and you will surrender again like in 1970.

AlexBells:

That loan is more reason why war with Nigeria is dangerous, would you want someone owing you money to die?, apart from Russia and UK, China would send few of their aircraft careers to Nigeria to protect it from disintegration make story no enter their loan lol

where are you getting this kind of thinking from? So in other to protect her loans to Nigeria, China will spend more money fighting for Nigeria? Do u know how much a single rocket costs?

paramakina202:


While you will depend on the donations from diaspora to fund your own war.
We didn't lean anything from the first war.Who do you think the West(America,EU,Uk) will back in case of another war with Nigeria?
If those countrie support Nigeria once again the so called diaspora funding will be blocked and you will surrender again like in 1970.

firstly I am happy that we are having a normal matured discussion, bereaved of insult and abuses..

Now to the discussion, Nigeria cannot have the backing of the US due to their close ties with China; and you know Eu and uk will throw their weight where America is as usual. That aside, this is not 1967 where the world had fewer problems and was ready to pounce on any distractions: now every country of the world has it own serious problem and would not want to side a country that especially has nothing to offer

kollinz1234:
firstly I am happy that we are having a normal matured discussion, bereaved of insult and abuses..

Now to the discussion, Nigeria cannot have the backing of the US due to their close ties with China; and you know Eu and uk will throw their weight where America is as usual. That aside, this is not 1967 where the world had fewer problems and was ready to pounce on any distractions: now every country of the world has it own serious problem and would not want to side a country that especially has nothing to offer

IPOB is on the verge of being declared a terrorist organisation internationally. They started peacefully, but now they are a terror to those who disagree with them. No country will throw their weight behind them. I

kollinz1234:
firstly I am happy that we are having a normal matured discussion, bereaved of insult and abuses..

Now to the discussion, Nigeria cannot have the backing of the US due to their close ties with China; and you know Eu and uk will throw their weight where America is as usual. That aside, this is not 1967 where the world had fewer problems and was ready to pounce on any distractions: now every country of the world has it own serious problem and would not want to side a country that especially has nothing to offer

We shouldn't go to war based on assumptions that was the mistake Ojukwu did in previous war.Before going to war get the backing of your allies first not assuming they gonna back you when the war starts and get disappointed at the end.As it stand now America and EU+UK are not interested in anything that will disintegrate Nigeria and in fact US is still supplying Nigeria with weapons in peace time and I do not think they will stop in war time.IPOB have no international support and will be crushed should they cross their boundaries.

Nigeria ịs a state actor and will get as much help as she needs, if a war is started by IPOB. Remember, IPOB has no legitimacy... no agreement with any nation, not even an ethnic group. Ọhaneze has more legitimacy internationally than IPOB

naijanative:
Nigeria ịs a state actor and will get as much help as she needs, if a war is started by IPOB. Remember, IPOB has no legitimacy... no agreement with any nation, not even an ethnic group. Ọhaneze has more legitimacy internationally than IPOB

No. Ọhaneze doesn't.
They don't even have credibility in Igboland. They are simply a Nigerian forum.
In as much as many criticise IPOB, never undermine their influence.
IPOB can rival Nigeria at any moment if they play their card well.

AlexBells:

I think the problem here is that you see Nigeria as one country, Nigeria Military can honestly not fight tribal militias becuase their people in the Military are sympathetic to their aim

It is only regional or tribal approach that can help, greater intelligence and technology would keep AlaIgbo safe, only classified weapons are restricted in Nigeria

There is no law in Nigeria banning researches, when we come up with our technology and sciences, it will still take the Senate to amend the constitution to make such weapons illegal otherwise state assemblies can make it illegal in their respective states and Igbo state assemblies have better things to discuss than our homemade weapons.

We will still frustrate them in the senate and House of Rep, and our research programs shall continue.

they know this and have been eliminating them via ambush or Air bombing and terrorists disguised as higher ranking officers

kollinz1234:
where are you getting this kind of thinking from? So in other to protect her loans to Nigeria, China will spend more money fighting for Nigeria? Do u know how much a single rocket costs?

the only reason why other countries will back off or back Biafra is if their interests are protected
So IPOB should start forming alliances
Though from prophecy Nigeria stays One with proper restructuring while the rogues are destroyed

BKayy:

No. Ọhaneze doesn't.
They don't even have credibility in Igboland. They are simply a Nigerian forum.
In as much as many criticise IPOB, never undermine their influence.
IPOB can rival Nigeria at any moment if they play their card well.

You are right, IPOB has more credibility only in Nigeria... but they have not played their card well. Soon and very soon, they will crumble

odysey:
they know this and have been eliminating them via ambush or Air bombing and terrorists disguised as higher ranking officers

That's same thing I'm saying let's have our own dedicated system, that is not going to be compromised by the Nigerian process

kollinz1234:
forgive me to say that you are naive

You are already forgiven lol, it a free world lol

naijanative:

You are right, IPOB has more credibility only in Nigeria... but they have not played their card well. Soon and very soon, they will crumble

"The darkest hour is before dawn" - Thomas Fuller

BKayy:

"The darkest hour is before dawn" - Thomas Fuller

IPOB is very powerful but the reality is that we are looking at two generations, Igbo elders is being careful not to repeat the mistakes of the past remember that Zik asked Ojukwu if he had weapons and Ojukwu said he did when the war started there was nothing on ground, the fear is that if the elders gives Kanu a nodding and declared Biafra,

There is absolutely no real weapon to hold Nigeria for at least three months before new arrivals and if the ports are hijacked and we fly in the Biafran airspace and another thing is that I had always said politicians are not the problem, there are still Igbos in the Nigerian military they are the real issue becuase until they break and take holds of any arms that's when we can count what we have

BigSarah:
Alexbells, Igboid, Eastlink and maybe horsepower.
Are the only realistic Igbos on Nairaland...

You can't be Pro-Biafra and then decide to be deluded.
When the Igbos in the SS look at the results or gains of IPOB in the SE does it look attractive?
Or something to join? It's failure.

IPOB should truly understand And Be civil.

With IPOB style this agitation can last 20yrs and still no Biafra and the Maltreatment On the SE will get worse..
The more IPOB fails the worse it gets for the SE.. IPOB should stop failing or they should stop trying.

Point of correction, Eastlink abi anywherelink, is not a true Ibo son.
He is a paid miscreants trying very hard with his other miscreants like slayerforever to formant trouble between the real ibos and their brothers of other tribes in the South South.

So Lady, try and modify your post, I know him very well
Thank you

AlexBells:

IPOB is very powerful but the reality is that we are looking at two generations, Igbo elders is being careful not to repeat the mistakes of the past remember that Zik asked Ojukwu if he had weapons and Ojukwu said he did when the war started there was nothing on ground, the fear is that if the elders gives Kanu a nodding and declared Biafra,

There is absolutely no real weapon to hold Nigeria for at least three months before new arrivals and if the ports are hijacked and we fly in the Biafran airspace and another thing is that I had always said politicians are not the problem, there are still Igbos in the Nigerian military they are the real issue becuase until they break and take holds of any arms that's when we can count what we have

Nnamdi Azikiwe never asked Ojukwu anything. Infact he has no credibility in the East at that time.
You forgot that he was mapped out to be eliminated by the revolutionaries but due to some unclear circumstances he was not around at that time.

The way you people talk about the war as if Ojukwu woke up and declared Biafra. Atleast 30k Ndigbo were murdered before that. The people challenged Ojukwu credibility in posing as an Igbo leader if he does nothing.

If you have studied in Unizik, we won't be discussing this.
The truth would have been part of you.

AlexBells:

I don't think you understood me, I'm not against Biafra, I'm saying the mode of asking for it had been dangerous from the time of Ojukwu, MI Okpara was alive, Zik was alive, if Gowon refused to step down as the Head of the supreme Military council, Ojukwu could have done what IPOB is doing today which is counter command but it all happened too fast and he was young and much rush of adrenaline.

Old Eastern Region don't include midwest which have the Anioma stock of Igbos, even if we opt for Biafra isn't an Igbo only Biafra an option and then if we want Biafra why would people have to die when there are peaceful ways to actualize it

The mode used in asking for biafra is what Nigerian govt understand easily, if you don't use this mode you will be tagged as madman and your voice won't be heard. Go rest and chill! We understand how Nigerian State operates. Let me stop here...

BKayy:

Nnamdi Azikiwe never asked Ojukwu anything. Infact he has no credibility in the East at that time.
You forgot that he was mapped out to be eliminated by the revolutionaries but due to some unclear circumstances he was not around at that time.

The way you people talk about the war as if Ojukwu woke up and declared Biafra. Atleast 30k Ndigbo were murdered before that. The people challenged Ojukwu credibility in posing as an Igbo leader if he does nothing.

If you have studied in Unizik, we won't be discussing this.
The truth would have been part of you.

Unless if the part I once read was fabricated I read somewhere where Zik and Lius (Ojukwus father) discussed about this but Ojukwu never listened to either, Zik and lius needed more time to even lobby international connection,

I love Ojukwu for giving us the war and most importantly some indigenous weapons but he too had some faults, would you also say that even to himself Ojukwu did not know the amount of weapons we had, what could have happened if the RAP didn't come up with the Ogbunigwe

BigSarah:
Alexbells, Igboid, Eastlink and maybe horsepower.
Are the only realistic Igbos on Nairaland...

You can't be Pro-Biafra and then decide to be deluded.
When the Igbos in the SS look at the results or gains of IPOB in the SE does it look attractive?
Or something to join? It's failure.

IPOB should truly understand And Be civil.

With IPOB style this agitation can last 20yrs and still no Biafra and the Maltreatment On the SE will get worse..
The more IPOB fails the worse it gets for the SE.. IPOB should stop failing or they should stop trying.

Bolded : You seem to think the Igbos in the South East have to prove themselves to the Igbos in the South South. Very negative entitled mindset. Join us or join the enemies abeg.

AlexBells:

Unless if the part I once read was fabricated I read somewhere where Zik and Lius (Ojukwus father) discussed about this but Ojukwu never listened to either, Zik and lius needed more time to even lobby international connection,

I love Ojukwu for giving us the war and most importantly some indigenous weapons but he too had some faults, would you also say that even to himself Ojukwu did not know the amount of weapons we had, what could have happened if the RAP didn't come up with the Ogbunigwe

Ojukwu's father died a year before the war.
So what are you saying?

BKayy:

Ojukwu's father died a year before the war.
So what are you saying?

This was the issue I was referring to, sorry about the mistakes, thanks for the update