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Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by nkemoma(m): 9:42pm On Nov 28, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Focus! Provide scriptural references for your claims or move on abeg! undecided

It may not seem like it to you here but I abhor meaningless ramblings. undecided

Wait!! You mean you need scriptural evidences to show that at death man goes to the grave or the dust??
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 9:46pm On Nov 28, 2021
nkemoma:
Wait!! You mean you need scriptural evidences to show that at death man goes to the grave or the dust??
I already have that. What I don't have is where your belief that "Hell is the grave" comes from. undecided

Your belief contradicts Jesus Christ who in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 explained how those dead in Christ will be raised to be judged. Your claim directly contradicts what Jesus Christ made known to us and the logic of it. undecided
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by nkemoma(m): 9:52pm On Nov 28, 2021
Kobojunkie:
I already have that. What I don't have is where your belief that "Hell is the grave" comes from. undecided

Your belief contradicts Jesus Christ who in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 explained how those dead in Christ will be raised to be judged. Your claim directly contradicts what Jesus Christ made known to us and the logic of it. undecided


Okkk... But the scripture you quoted doesn't speak about does dead in Christ being raised up for judgment naaa....

That place is talking of the judgement of 2 set of people alive at the time Jesus comes for judgment!

1. Those who supported Jesus' brothers and receive everlasting life

2. Those who don't and receive everlasting destruction.

Na different matter!


At death: humans go to the dust...... Only hope they have is Resurrection... Either to heaven or on earth.....

Anyone not resurrected... Remains dead or cut off everlastingly
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 9:58pm On Nov 28, 2021
nkemoma:
Okkk... But the scripture you quoted doesn't speak about does dead in Christ being raised up for judgment naaa....

That place is talking of the judgement of 2 set of people alive at the time Jesus comes for judgment!

1. Those who supported Jesus' brothers and receive everlasting life
2. Those who don't and receive everlasting destruction.

Na different matter!
At death: humans go to the dust...... Only hope they have is Resurrection... Either to heaven or on earth.....
Anyone not resurrected... Remains dead or cut off everlastingly
i thought you were at least versed in scripture. Anyways, read what the same Jesus Christ taught you in John 5 vs 19 - 29 what is to happen when He returns to judge His own. undecided

Then read the Parable of the 10 brides where Jesus Christ tells a story of how all 10 brides slept(died) and were awoken when the time to meet the bridegroom was upon them - Matthew 25 vs 1 - 13 undecided

After this, read Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 and see that Jesus Christ meant for you to learn from there. undecided
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by nkemoma(m): 10:00pm On Nov 28, 2021
Kobojunkie:
i thought you were at least versed in scripture. Anyways, read what the same Jesus Christ taught you in John 5 vs 19 - 29 what is to happen when He returns to judge His own. undecided

Then read the Parable of the 10 brides where Jesus Christ tells a story of how all 10 brides slept(died) and were awoken when the time to meet the bridegroom was upon them - Matthew 25 vs 1 - 13 undecided

After this, read Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 and see that Jesus Christ meant for you to learn from there. undecided



Stop mixing things up... You quoted 25vs 31-46 and did it wrongly.. Instead of you to accept your error, you throw insults and more scriptures

Don't confuse yourself
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 10:03pm On Nov 28, 2021
nkemoma:
Stop mixing things up... You quoted 25vs 31-46 and did it wrongly.. Instead of you to accept your error, you throw insults and more scriptures

Don't confuse yourself
I didn't quote anything wrongly.. your understanding is what is in error here and this because you don't know the teachings of Jesus Christ, hence the reason why I asked you to read up others of his teachings regarding the same subject so you can collect more of His Truth to aid you in better processing His Truth. undecided

Again..i thought you were at least versed in scripture. Anyways, read what the same Jesus Christ taught you in John 5 vs 19 - 29 what is to happen when He returns to judge His own. undecided

Then read the Parable of the 10 brides where Jesus Christ tells a story of how all 10 brides slept(died) and were awoken when the time to meet the bridegroom was upon them - Matthew 25 vs 1 - 13 undecided

After this, read Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 and see that Jesus Christ meant for you to learn from there. undecided
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by nkemoma(m): 10:04pm On Nov 28, 2021
Kobojunkie:
i thought you were at least versed in scripture. Anyways, read what the same Jesus Christ taught you in John 5 vs 19 - 29 what is to happen when He returns to judge His own. undecided

Then read the Parable of the 10 brides where Jesus Christ tells a story of how all 10 brides slept(died) and were awoken when the time to meet the bridegroom was upon them - Matthew 25 vs 1 - 13 undecided

After this, read Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 and see that Jesus Christ meant for you to learn from there. undecided


That account of John still talks about the resurrection.... Is that not what I said earlier... The only hope of the dead is the resurrection or he remains dead or cut off permanently?

And sorry the virgins were sleeping not dead! Stop adding to what is written. Sleeping wasn't the crime, but not having oil in their lamps (being ready to welcome the groom) was!

As I said.. Stop quoting and misquoting scriptures... You are confusing yourself
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 10:17pm On Nov 28, 2021
nkemoma:
1. That account of John still talks about the resurrection.... Is that not what I said earlier... The only hope of the dead is the resurrection or he remains dead or cut off permanently?

2. And sorry the virgins were sleeping not dead! Stop adding to what is written. Sleeping wasn't the crime, but not having oil in their lamps (being ready to welcome the groom) was!

3. As I said.. Stop quoting and misquoting scriptures... You are confusing yourself
1. So, did you at least see where Jesus Christ stated that they will all be raised from the dead to then be judged by Him? undecided

2. Alright so you don't understand that sleeping means dead, this even after you read in plain text in John 5 vs 19 - 29 that those who were dead instead slept in their graves, to be raised by Jesus Christ? undecided

Also, if you recall the story of Mary's brother, Lazarus,whom Jesus Christ raised from the dead, do you remember Jesus Christ corrected those who said Lazarus was dead by declaring instead that Lazarus was sleeping?

3. I haven't misquoted anything here, I am afraid, so? . undecided
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Lordedifice1: 11:03pm On Nov 28, 2021
The bible tells us that we all we account for what we did on earth
So an infant or better still a baby hasn't reach the age of accountability so therefore there ate no Babies in hell,i would say their souls hasn't develop
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 11:07pm On Nov 28, 2021
Lordedifice1:
The bible tells us that we all we account for what we did on earth
So an infant or better still a baby hasn't reach the age of accountability so therefore there ate no Babies in hell,i would say their souls hasn't develop
Your claim is contradictory. In your first you claim we will all give account but then you follow it with a claim that babies can't because of something you claim is "age of accountability" . undecided

Where is this "age of accountability" defined in scripture? undecided
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by thinkmoney(m): 11:36pm On Nov 28, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell

The closest any human being could get to physically meeting God or seeing His ways and how things were done in His Kingdom which is in heaven, here on Earth, is through meeting and observing the ways of little children. Hence Jesus used them as examples for His disciples to emulate, saying, "Of such is the kingdom of heaven". Mark 10:14

So if little children are the ones that remind God of heaven most when He looks down at the Earth, why would He want to send them to hell?

The souls in hell are workers of iniquity, hence little children of whom Jesus said, "of such is the kingdom of God", including the unborn who have never worked iniquity, could not possibly be in hell. Matthew 13:41-41; Revelation 21:8

The woman who said she saw aborted babies in the following thread, https://www.nairaland.com/6868933/kathy-mcdaniel-misfit-hell-heaven, never spoke of their souls but exposed how those of devil kill/abort them, and how they dump their dead bodies. But of course the agents of the devil would want to misinterpret that to mislead humans and to blaspheme the name of God.

But the devil is a liar and was a murderer since the beginning. John 8:44

He's the thief who never comes to any man except to steal, kill and destroy his life just like he did to man in the beginning, so it would be foolish to fall for his lies. John 10:10

A word is enough for the wise.
I sense cowardice in your write up. You are careful not to dismiss that woman, then u found a way to say she was only talking about body not soul. Where in the bible do u see body surviving and going to somewhere other than this earth?
Me I am not a coward. Because I understand the bible, I have long dismissed that woman and her revelation. Its either she is lying or her brain just brought up things during that her comma.
The bible is enough for me. Any Revelation or dream that tries to bring up something that's out of the bible, I dismiss it readily as not coming from God.
The spirit of deception as gone out from satan and its everywhere now according to Revelations. Sound knowledge of the bible is needed not to be swept away

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Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 11:47pm On Nov 28, 2021
thinkmoney:

I sense cowardice in your write up. You are careful not to dismiss that woman, then u found a way to say she was only talking about body not soul. Where in the bible do u see body surviving and going to somewhere other than this earth?

Me I am not a coward. Because I understand the bible, I have long dismissed that woman and her revelation. Its either she is lying or her brain just brought up things during that her comma.

The bible is enough for me. Any Revelation or dream that tries to bring up something that's out of the bible, I dismiss it readily as not coming from God.

The spirit of deception as gone out from satan and its everywhere now according to Revelations. Sound knowledge of the bible is needed not to be swept away
If only even a handful of those who called themselves Christians reasoned in the way you set there in bold, most of these liars would not have a a voice to speak at all. undecided

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Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by thinkmoney(m): 12:00am On Nov 29, 2021
Kobojunkie:
If only even a handful of those who called themselves Christians reasoned in the way you set there in bold, most of these liars would not have a a voice to speak at all. undecided
Thank u. One problem we have is that people are lazy to study themselves.
It's like people that won't bother to use their money to watch ball but will stay somewhere and be disturbing others about the scores. Sometimes they might just meet one frustrated fan that will just give them misleading information, then they go with that information for sometime.
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Ayodele20(m): 2:29am On Nov 29, 2021
KillIgbohoN0W:
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No need for lengthy epistles.
Just tell us the age to qualify for heaven or hell.

Na wa!!


Simple Question!
In Islam,it is the time a person attains puberty. Characteristics of puberty in boys is the appearance of wetdreams,physical changes and ability to conceive,and for girls it is menstruation,wetdreams and ability to conceive.A child that has attained puberty is called a bāligh and from that moment onwards till his/her death,the recording angels begin to keep records of his/her bad deeds.And it is at this age that the Islamic law is fully applied on him/her and the hereafter is judged.

According to Imam Nawawi(may Allah have mercy on him), an age of 15 lunar year is self-evident for boys and girls to become full adults.

What about a child who died before puberty?
In Islam,a child who died before puberty is not held accountable and he/she goes to Paradise,irrespective of the religion of his/her parents to which he was made to follow.
This is because the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) said:
“Every child is born pure.” And so a child by default, is a Muslim (the one who submits to the Will of the Creator).

So any child be it a Muslim, Christian, Hindu,Sikh or Buddhist,if he/she dies,he is considered a Muslim in God's Paradise.Every child is born pure and there's nothing like original sin in Islam as each and everyone of us will bear the consequences of our own actions and we will not be punished for the actions of others.Surely, Allah is Just and Well-acquainted with all things.
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by jesusjnr2020(m): 3:03am On Nov 29, 2021
thinkmoney:

I sense cowardice in your write up. You are careful not to dismiss that woman, then u found a way to say she was only talking about body not soul. Where in the bible do u see body surviving and going to somewhere other than this earth?
Me I am not a coward. Because I understand the bible, I have long dismissed that woman and her revelation. Its either she is lying or her brain just brought up things during that her comma.
The bible is enough for me. Any Revelation or dream that tries to bring up something that's out of the bible, I dismiss it readily as not coming from God.
The spirit of deception as gone out from satan and its everywhere now according to Revelations. Sound knowledge of the bible is needed not to be swept away
Keep sensing oh Mr Sensor, don't stop, for someone who "thinks money" yet wants teach someone who "thinks God" the Word of God.

Kudos for showing your bravery in faceless platform. You deserve a NL medal for bravery.

People that would see something in the Bible yet still be arguing blindly against what is clearly written there.

Continue to deceive yourself you have true knowledge when you clearly don't.
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Lordedifice1: 4:41am On Nov 29, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Your claim is contradictory. In your first you claim we will all give account but then you follow it with a claim that babies can't because of something you claim is "age of accountability" . undecided

Where is this "age of accountability" defined in scripture? undecided



A baby hasn't reach the age of accountability
You yourself did you know what you did when you were a baby.
As far as i am concerned a baby never got the chance to live
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 4:45am On Nov 29, 2021
Lordedifice1:
A baby hasn't reach the age of accountability
You yourself did you know what you did when you were a baby.
As far as i am concerned a baby never got the chance to live
Yes, I have memories from when I was about 3 and half. undecided

Again, where is this "age of accountability" concept addressed in scripture by God? undecided
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Pfizzzy(m): 5:45am On Nov 29, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Yes you can and this because God told us where they go. So the question is do you believe God or do you not? undecided

You are not meant to trust in your own reasoning where God is concerned. You are instead meant to use the understanding you have in order to gain more understanding from God - Matthew 13 vs 10 - 12 and Mark 4 vs 21 - 25 undecided


Bro, my reasoning is beyond human comprehension... I don't have an answer for you. My relationship with God is between me and Him. Answering you doesn't prove anything.... You can be a believer and still wallow in sin, my views are different but are in accordance with God. I'm spiritual... A true worshipper of the most High is supposed to be immortal like Christ, do you believe so?
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 5:47am On Nov 29, 2021
Pfizzzy:
Bro, my reasoning is beyond human comprehension... I don't have an answer for you. My relationship with God is between me and Him. Answering you doesn't prove anything.... You can be a believer and still wallow in sin, my views are different but are in accordance with God. I'm spiritual... A true worshipper of the most High is supposed to be immortal like Christ, do you believe so?
Immortal as in to have eternal life from John 3 vs 16 - 21? undecided
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Pfizzzy(m): 5:48am On Nov 29, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Yes you can and this because God told us where they go. So the question is do you believe God or do you not? undecided

You are not meant to trust in your own reasoning where God is concerned. You are instead meant to use the understanding you have in order to gain more understanding from God - Matthew 13 vs 10 - 12 and Mark 4 vs 21 - 25 undecided


Why shouldn't I trust on my reasoning? Obob! I have an understanding of God so I follow His lead and think logically too.
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Pfizzzy(m): 5:50am On Nov 29, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Immortal as in to have eternal life from John 3 vs 16 - 21? undecided

Immortal as no human can hurt me. Believe or not... My encounters you simply don't know.

If one can go to alfa, babalawo and take concussions to be immortal... Why do you feel with God it can't be possible? Use scriptures for this one too grin
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 5:51am On Nov 29, 2021
Pfizzzy:
Why shouldn't I trust on my reasoning? Obob! I have an understanding of God so I follow His lead and think logically too.
Did God or even Jesus Christ indicate that our reasoning is to be trusted? I mean in Jeremiah 17 vs 5, God Himself declared cursed any man who puts his trust in flesh and blood and goes as far as to make flesh and blood his strength... undecided

You are flesh and blood meaning you cannot be trusted .I.e. even your reasoning is not to be trusted by you. undecided
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Pfizzzy(m): 5:53am On Nov 29, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Did God or even Jesus Christ indicate that our reasoning is to be trusted? I mean in Jeremiah 17 vs 5, God Himself declared cursed any man who puts his trust in flesh and blood and goes as far as to make flesh and blood his strength... undecided

You are flesh and blood meaning you cannot be trusted .I.e. even your reasoning is not to be trusted by you. undecided


I am a child of God my nigga. I don't pray, I communicate/talk to God. Not via the name of Christ. Am not wrong.
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 5:53am On Nov 29, 2021
Pfizzzy:
Immortal as no human can hurt me. Believe or not... My encounters you simply don't know.

If one can go to alfa, babalawo and take concussions to be immortal... Why do you feel with God it can't be possible? Use scriptures for this one too grin
Well, Jesus Christ didn't promise that we will never come to harm - instead He promised us suffering and tribulations suggesting we may even be treated as He was. So, if you chose to instead believe you cannot come to any harm, then note how very much different it is from what Jesus Christ Himself prepared us for. undecided
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Pfizzzy(m): 5:55am On Nov 29, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Well, Jesus Christ didn't promise that we will never come to harm - instead He promised us suffering and tribulations suggesting we may even be treated as He was. So, if you chose to instead believe you cannot come to any harm, then note how very much different it is from what Jesus Christ Himself prepared us for. undecided


Why do you keep referring to the Bible? I cannot come to any harm it's a fact.

Yeah I'll die someday but no one can plan evil against me and succeed as far I am with God.
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 5:56am On Nov 29, 2021
Pfizzzy:
I am a child of God my nigga. I don't pray, I communicate/talk to God. Not via the name of Christ. Am not wrong.
You are a child of which God then? undecided
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 5:57am On Nov 29, 2021
Pfizzzy:
Why do you keep referring to the Bible? I cannot come to any harm it's a fact.

Yeah I'll die someday but no one can plan evil against me and succeed as far I am with God.
I didn't mention the word Bible anywhere in my post to you. undecided

Which God are you with? undecided
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Pfizzzy(m): 5:57am On Nov 29, 2021
I recently realized myself and my relationship with God has made me understand lots of things.
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Pfizzzy(m): 5:58am On Nov 29, 2021
Kobojunkie:
I didn't mention the word Bible anywhere in my post to you. undecided

Which God are you with? undecided

I'm with the creator of the universe, maker of all things, omnipotent, omniscient.
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 6:00am On Nov 29, 2021
Pfizzzy:
I'm with the creator of the universe, maker of all things, omnipotent, omniscient.
You are with him since when and what is his name? undecided
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Pfizzzy(m): 6:01am On Nov 29, 2021
This life has principles, if you choose to focus on the Bible alone I have no problem with that.

But don't try to question my relationship with God... You nor be heaven secretary.
Re: Why There Are No Aborted Or Dead Babies In Hell by Kobojunkie: 6:01am On Nov 29, 2021
Pfizzzy:
I recently realized myself and my relationship with God has made me understand lots of things.
You recently realized yourself? How do you mean? undecided

Do you live with your parents? undecided

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