MaxInDHouse:


Sorry Sir, i forgot you're no longer associating with God's people!
Please quote whatever you want and continue applying whatever meaning to it!

The reason nairaland was created is for people like you to look for those no longer associating with God's people

Please quote whatever you want and continue applying whatever meaning to it!

When others do so you come with your self righteousness,boasting and bragging about your better performance group.

MaxInDHouse:
Among God's people, nobody knows her!

Your question was not whether they know her or not. From the account given what we know concerning whatever Christian denominations or congregation she belongs is that of Jehovah's witnesses no other was mentioned. I am not aware of any other

achorladey:

Your question was not whether they know her or not. From the account given what we know concerning whatever Christian denominations or congregation she belongs is that of Jehovah's witnesses no other was mentioned. I am not aware of any other

Kobojunkie:
Why not ask this Bro Can Mbanefo for Ogechukwu ochiagha's congregation information to end this once and for all.
I would contact him myself except I am not on Facebook still.

This is what any sincere inquisitor will do if you're truly interested in the cooked up tale not just accusing Jehovah's Witnesses when we don't even know the girl!

MaxInDHouse:




This is what any sincere inquisitor will do if you're truly interested in the cooked up tale not just accusing Jehovah's Witnesses when we don't even know the girl!

Your question was not whether they know her or not. From the account given what we know concerning whatever Christian denominations or congregation she belongs is that of Jehovah's witnesses no other was mentioned. I am not aware of any other.

It is the same Bro Can Mbanefo that brought the issue to the public domain not Kobojunkie and the same Mbanefo says she is an associate of the religious organization you belong.

For the benefit of all who care to know what this is all about. This story is not from anybody whose name is tagged to it whether Can Nbanefo or Ogechukwu Ochiagha rather it's a plan work from Satan the Devil to stop people from listening to the Good News of God's kingdom coming from no other sources but the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses.

The girl Oge no doubt was once an attendee at our meetings but the situation surrounding her death shows that she's hiding away from those that supposed to take up her case and help her. There's no JW that's well known in any of our congregations throughout the world whose life is not precious to us.
So if the name of her congregation is missing in the story it simply means she has stopped attending our meetings by the time she needs help. Many often appear on Facebook and other social media claiming they are members of Jehovah's Witnesses organization just to make friends with JWs in advance countries.
Some of them are not even known in any of our congregations but since they've attended our meetings for some times they will claim JWs on social media.
Oge actually needed help but since she knew the ongoing spiritual warfare between the forces of light and darkness she was prepared to die rather than compromise the little she knew about the truth. The fact remains that her faith will surely be rewarded.
The only problem she had here was hiding from JWs and that shows she must have been commiting some blunders that she knows will affect her personal relationship with the true God. But with her last breath she proved to be a warrior in the faith.
Samson the son of Manoah was with God's people before he committed a grievous blunder, he died in the hands of God's enemies who wanted to mock his God but did he loose faith in the end?
NO! Samson died a faithful servant of his God
So no matter what anyone think, say or do in the resurrection of the dead this girl will be remembered for her faith {Job 14:13-15} she has learned her lesson in a bitter way.
When we finally welcome her in Paradise {Luke 23:43} we will ask her what actually happened and she will explain herself but then it will be laughter all through when death will be no more! Isaiah 25:8; Revelations 21:3-5

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

MaxInDHouse:
For the benefit of all who care to know what this is all about. This story is not from anybody whose name is tagged to it whether Can Nbanefo or Ogechukwu Ochiagha rather it's a plan work from Satan the Devil to stop people from listening to the Good News of God's kingdom coming from no other sources but the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses.

The girl Oge no doubt was once an attendee at our meetings but the situation surrounding her death shows that she's hiding away from those that supposed to take up her case and help her. There's no JW that's well known in any of our congregations throughout the world whose life is not precious to us.
So if the name of her congregation is missing in the story it simply means she has stopped attending our meetings by the time she needs help. Many often appear on Facebook and other social media claiming they are members of Jehovah's Witnesses organization just to make friends with JWs in advance countries.
Some of them are not even known in any of our congregations but since they've attended our meetings for some times they will claim JWs on social media.
Oge actually needed help but since she knew the ongoing spiritual warfare between the forces of light and darkness she was prepared to die rather than compromise the little she knew about the truth. The fact remains that her faith will surely be rewarded.
The only problem she had here was hiding from JWs and that shows she must have been commiting some blunders that she knows will affect her personal relationship with the true God. But with her last breath she proved to be a warrior in the faith.
Samson the son of Manoah was with God's people before he committed a grievous blunder, he died in the hands of God's enemies who wanted to mock his God but did he loose faith in the end?
NO! Samson died a faithful servant of his God
So no matter what anyone think, say or do in the resurrection of the dead this girl will be remembered for her faith {Job 14:13-15} she has learned her lesson in a bitter way.
When we finally welcome her in Paradise {Luke 23:43} we will ask her what actually happened and she will explain herself but then it will be laughter all through when death will be no more! Isaiah 25:8; Revelations 21:3-5

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

See as dey credit and discredit the situation at the same time in one single post.

rather it's a plan work from Satan the Devil to stop people from listening to the Good News of God's kingdom coming from no other sources but the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses.

The above is a common denominator shared by you and your religious organization and those you call churchgoers when scenario of this nature happens.

The only problem she had here was hiding from JWs and that shows she must have been commiting some blunders that she knows will affect her personal relationship with the true God. But with her last breath she proved to be a warrior in the faith.

Warrior in faith by rejecting what the Catholic charity had to offer

Hiding from Jehovah’s witnesses and she no be Jehovah’s witnesses. Why she dey hide since she no be bonafide member? credit and discredit in one swoop.

achorladey:

See as dey credit and discredit the situation at the same time in one single post.
The above is a common denominator shared by you and your religious organization and those you call churchgoers when scenario of this nature happens.
Warrior in faith by rejecting what the Catholic charity had to offer
Hiding from Jehovah’s witnesses and she no be Jehovah’s witnesses. Why she dey hide since she no be bonafide member? credit and discredit in one swoop.

What stopped Judas Iscariot from going to meet the other disciples after betraying Jesus?

Mr Apostate, this is not about credit or discredit but clarification on what really happened. Because with her action she proved that she knew the difference between accepting help and compromise.
If your so called Catholic Church is truly ready to sponsor the medical bills of patients there are millions of patients in need of such charity so let them go and pay their bills.
If Oge said "NO!" she reminds me of those guys who were prepared to die in a burning furnace in Babylon rather than simply taking a bow before Nebuchadnezzar's image.
Everyone in Babylon bowed before the image but Hananiah Mishael and Azariah (Shadrach Meshach and Abednego) insisted they would rather be thrown into the burning furnace than bowing.
Of course faithless miscreants like you will say "they've been brainwashed by their priests" who taught them the laws of their God!

MaxInDHouse:


What stopped Judas Iscariot from going to meet the other disciples after betraying Jesus?

Mr Apostate, this is not about credit or discredit but clarification on what really happened. Because with her action she proved that she knew the difference between accepting help and compromise.

If your so called Catholic Church is truly ready to sponsor the medical bills of patients there are millions of patients in need of such charity so let them go and pay their bills.
If Oge said "NO!" she reminds me of those guys who were prepared to die in a burning furnace in Babylon rather than simply taking a bow before Nebuchadnezzar's image.
Everyone in Babylon bowed before the image but Hananiah Mishael and Azariah (Shadrach Meshach and Abednego) insisted they would rather be thrown into the burning furnace than bowing.
Of course faithless miscreants like you will say "they've been brainwashed by their priests" who taught them the laws of their God!

For this question below......

What stopped Judas Iscariot from going to meet the other disciples after betraying Jesus?

Nothing at all and Judas not going to meet the other eleven didn't stop other from referring to him Judas Iscariot as a disciple of Jesus. 2000 years after you and I still refer Judas Iscariot as one of what.........................

Mr Apostate, this is not about [b]credit or discredit but clarification on what really happened. Because with her action she proved that she knew the difference between accepting help and compromise.[/b]

Upper lips says warrior in faith of a and hiding hiding from Jehovah’s witnesses your religious organization the lower lips says it is all a sweet tale. Intelligence no gree tell you that it is just a tale. A sweet tale. What clarification do I need in a sweet tale that does not originate in the first place with you. Think and reason You are not the sweet tale bearer.

Now look at your words here COMPROMISE in what? Which kind intelligence be this one paapaa?

If your so called Catholic Church is truly ready to sponsor the medical bills of patients there are millions of patients in need of such charity so let them go and pay their bills.

All of the above is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things concerning charitable deeds by the Catholic

If Oge said "NO!" she reminds me of those guys who were prepared to die in a burning furnace in Babylon rather than simply taking a bow before Nebuchadnezzar's image.

Na only to peddle apostate and
your miscreants you sabi from the abundance of your heart[/b. Mr intelligence still saying [b]if Oge said No . She will soon say if YES

Barristter07:

Your understanding of the story is very low for asking are JW and Jews the same

It's not rather goes beyond your hypocrisy.

when the second Biggest Law in the universe was the point of the story. Love your neighbor as yourself.

Which is what the Catholic did in case of this girl but can you give us example where JWs ever rendered help to none JWs?

In fact, your brother Max always says this law is nothing when compare to Jesus commandment of Love to his disciples according to him, he can go to any length for a fellow JWs than non-JWs.

According to Christ, this transcends beyond religious Differences.

Very well but has JWs even WTBTS as a body ever practiced such?

I can choose to assist someone with a different faith than me, even an atheist, and an atheist can choose to be of assistance to me.

Can you see now that you're the one who doesn't have understanding of that story.

The Samaritan didn't choose to render that help but sees it as it's responsibility.

If we are to love our neighbors as ourselves, do you CHOOSE TO LOVE YOURSELF or LOVING YOURSELF is your top priority?

You don't know the Bible.

Yet I've been giving you and your JWs Bible study times without number.

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is what you need to ponder because i can never ever found myself in her shoe! Psalms 23:1; 34:9; 37:25; 84:11

Don't worry, time is coming that your fellow JWs will also deny of you being part of them while you're alive.

Heartless and hypocrite JWs.

Emusan:


Don't worry, time is coming that your fellow JWs will also deny of you being part of them while you're alive.

Heartless and hypocrite JWs.

Preach!!

Emusan:


It's not rather goes beyond your hypocrisy.



Which is what the Catholic did in case of this girl but can you give us example where JWs ever rendered help to none JWs?

In fact, your brother Max always says this law is nothing when compare to Jesus commandment of Love to his disciples according to him, he can go to any length for a fellow JWs than non-JWs.

Very well but has JWs even WTBTS as a body ever practiced such?

Can you see now that you're the one who doesn't have understanding of that story.


The Samaritan didn't choose to render that help but sees it as it's responsibility.

If we are to love our neighbors as ourselves, do you CHOOSE TO LOVE YOURSELF or LOVING YOURSELF is your top priority?

Yet I've been giving you and your JWs Bible study times without number.

Are you aware there are people that do not love themselves? Your world view is very narrow.

Many battle with self esteem issues, this one's need to put in efforts to love who they are. Sometimes it requires the assistance of friends and family.

When I use " Choose " , only a fault finder who doesn't care about Understanding would have a problem with it.

The Samaritan exercised his Freewill. Where there is freewill, there is freedom of choice. And this choice is a good one

Barristter07:
Are you aware there are people that do not love themselves? Your world view is very narrow.

Many battle with self esteem issues, this one's need to put in efforts to love who they are. Sometimes it requires the assistance of friends and family.

Then this story and the second golden commandment isn't for them.

The commandment is "Love your neighbor as yourself"

When I use " Choose " , only a fault finder who doesn't care about Understanding would have a problem with it.

You're still wrong, "choose" isn't applicable here but the commandment is a mandatory.

The Samaritan exercised his Freewill. Where there is freewill, there is freedom of choice. And this choice is a good one

Another ignorance of the scripture!

The Samaritan isn't exercising his freewill but sees that as his responsibility.

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You like boycotting question.

Your reply to my hasn't addressed the reason you quoted me in the first place.

This girl died doing what 99.9% of JWs will do including you Barristter07 so stretching and confusing yourself with the story of Samaritan won't work.

Lastly, you still turn a blind eye to this challenge "Which is what the Catholic did in case of this girl but can you give us example where JWs ever rendered help to none JWs?"

Emusan:


Then this story and the second golden commandment isn't for them.

The commandment is "Love your neighbor as yourself"

You're still wrong, "choose" isn't applicable here but the commandment is a mandatory.

Another ignorance of the scripture!

The Samaritan isn't exercising his freewill but sees that as his responsibility.

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It's not the responsibility of the first two persons that turn a blind eye ? This are people to whom the Love your neighbor law are given.

Freewill is exercised where there are multiple choices.

Can the Samaritan choose to act otherwise of he so wills ? Yes.


You are the lost person here. Seems you don't have any point anymore, hence the nitpicking on a word.

You like boycotting question.

Your reply to my hasn't addressed the reason you quoted me in the first place.

This girl died doing what 99.9% of JWs will do including you Barristter07 so stretching and confusing yourself with the story of Samaritan won't work.

You could have said 100% , are you scared ?! Baseless assumption. Arguing from a false premise.

Lastly, you still turn a blind eye to this challenge "Which is what the Catholic did in case of this girl but can you give us example where JWs ever rendered help to none JWs?"

Go and ask them one by one, Each person will tell you when they were moved at anytime to help their fellow humans irrespective of religion ,race, or Ethnic group. If any of them fail to do so to others, you are free to counsel him or her. Have done that to Different persons. It's useless blowing a trumpet here.

Barristter07:
It's not the responsibility of the first two persons that turn a blind eye?

It's their responsibility but FAILED to carry it out.

So you can what the law is all about now.

This are people to whom the Love your neighbor law are given.

Yes because the law is about carrying out our responsibility not by choice.

It is your responsibility to take care of yourself not by CHOICE which is what the law picture after

Freewill is exercised where there are multiple choices.

This isn't about freewill Mr.

Can the Samaritan choose to act otherwise of he so wills ? Yes.

Yes he can which means the Samaritan sees it not as HIS RESPONSIBILITY

You are the lost person here. Seems you don't have any point anymore, hence the nitpicking on a word.

Yet I'm schooling you about simple story that even a nursery pupil knows.

You could have said 100% , are you scared ?! Baseless assumption. Arguing from a false premise.

No wonder you couldn't answer my question in a simplest form.

Go and ask them one by one, Each person will tell you when they were moved at anytime to help their fellow humans irrespective of religion ,race, or Ethnic group.

Yet you can't provide just one single instances where such happened

If any of them fail to do so to others, you are free to counsel him or her. Have done that to Different persons. It's useless blowing a trumpet here.

You don't know that JWs have coconut head, the way this girl refused help from Catholic body is the way they will discard your counsel simply because your 8 gods in Warwick have infused in their head not to listen to unbelievers.

Emusan:


It's their responsibility but FAILED to carry it out.

So you can what the law is all about now.



Yes because the law is about carrying out our responsibility not by choice.

It is your responsibility to take care of yourself not by CHOICE which is what the law picture after



This isn't about freewill Mr.



Yes he can which means the Samaritan sees it not as HIS RESPONSIBILITY



Yet I'm schooling you about simple story that even a nursery pupil knows.



No wonder you couldn't answer my question in a simplest form.



Yet you can't provide just one single instances where such happened



You don't know that JWs have coconut head, the way this girl refused help from Catholic body is the way they will discard your counsel simply because your 8 gods in Warwick have infused in their head not to listen to unbelievers.

The highlighted - Failure to Carry out a responsibility , is a Decision. Which makes it a Choice.

It's the duty of parents to cater for children, but a Parent can decide not to, that's a choice

Do I have to school you ?

Choice definition:

Essential Meaning of choice
1: the act of choosing : the act of picking or deciding between two or more possibilities - Mariam webster

The possibilities here are either to carry it out, or not to. Some decide not to and go there way, he decides to

It's funny, you had to be taught this.

Barristter07:
The highlighted - Failure to Carry out a responsibility , is a Decision. Which makes it a Choice.

It's not a decision but inhumane which is what the law addressed.

It's the duty of parents to cater for children, but a Parent can decide not to, that's a choice

This is evident that you don't understand the law you're reference since. For any parents to fail to perform his/her responsibility is inhumane, in fact you don't call such a parent.

Again, the law isn't about choice rather about responsibility that is upon us.

Do I have to school you ?

I'm the one schooling you don't forget.

[s]Choice definition:

Essential Meaning of choice
1: the act of choosing : the act of picking or deciding between two or more possibilities - Mariam webster[/s]

Irrelevant here.

The possibilities here are either to carry it out, or not to. Some decide not to and go there way, he decides to

He didn't decide but sees it as his responsibility. You don't decide to do things for yourself rather you take responsibility of things for yourself which is the contrast between the law.

It's funny, you had to be taught this.

It's funny, you refuse to learn this simple analysis.

Emusan:


It's not a decision but inhumane which is what the law addressed.

This is evident that you don't understand the law you're reference since. For any parents to fail to perform his/her responsibility is inhumane, in fact you don't call such a parent.
Again, the law isn't about choice rather about responsibility that is upon us.

I'm the one schooling you don't forget.
Irrelevant here.

He didn't decide but sees it as his responsibility. You don't decide to do things for yourself rather you take responsibility of things for yourself which is the contrast between the law.

It's funny, you refuse to learn this simple analysis.

@Red to see something as your responsibility requires a conscious thought about it. That's Decision, a choice .

While trying to play around. You said the highlighted.


Now to the highlighted, Were those you described as "inhumane" created that way not to take responsibility or they choose to be inhumane ?

Barristter07:
@Red to see something as your responsibility requires a conscious thought about it. That's Decision, a choice.

You can give it any meaning you want but that's not decision or choice.

Taking responsibility is what the story all about.

While trying to play around. You said the highlighted.

Now to the highlighted, Were those you described as "inhumane" created that way not to take responsibility or they choose to be inhumane ?

Now shifting goal post

What they did is called inhumane, in fact you don't call such a parent.

Emusan:


You can give it any meaning you want but that's not decision or choice.

Taking responsibility is what the story all about.

Now shifting goal post

What they did is called inhumane, in fact you don't call such a parent.

Simple question .

Were they created to be inhumane or they choose to be ?

Barristter07:


Simple question .

Were they created to be inhumane or they choose to be ?

You know different analogy you've put forth on this simple story that even a nursery pupil won't find hard to comprehend.

But this one will continue to choke you

What they did is called inhumane, in fact you don't call such a parent.

Emusan:


You know different analogy you've put forth on this simple story that even a nursery pupil won't find hard to comprehend.

But this one will continue to choke you

What they did is called inhumane, in fact you don't call such a parent.

Good. Hence the question:
Simple question: Were they made to be inhumane or they decide to be ?

Barristter07:


Good. Hence the question:
Simple question: Were they made to be inhumane or they decide to be ?

You know different analogy you've put forth on this simple story that even a nursery pupil won't find hard to comprehend.

But this one will continue to choke you

What they did is called inhumane, in fact you don't call such a parent.

Emusan:


You know different analogy you've put forth on this simple story that even a nursery pupil won't find hard to comprehend.

But this one will continue to choke you

What they did is called inhumane, in fact you don't call such a parent.

Simple question, you turn to a copy and paste Bot

@Bold , contrary to your earlier statement

" It's not a decision but inhumane which is what the law addressed."

Do they choose to be inhumane OR they were created that way ?

Barristter07:
Simple question, you turn to a copy and paste Bot

because that's what best for you

@Bold , contrary to your earlier statement

" It's not a decision but inhumane which is what the law addressed."

Do they choose to be inhumane OR they were created that way ?

What they did is called inhumane, in fact you don't call such a parent.

Your analogy failed woefully here!

So the story of Samaritan by Jesus and what you're citing as example didn't follow.

Your organization never used the story of Samaritan to teach their members how to get help or assistance from anyone outside the organization but they have numerous hate teaching towards other bodies which is the reason why this girl refused help from Catholic and the reason 99% of JWs will follow the same path when they found themselves in her shoe.

Emusan:


because that's what best for you
What they did is called inhumane, in fact you don't call such a parent.
Your analogy failed woefully here!

Calm down, inhumane by choice or Created that way by God ?

So the story of Samaritan by Jesus and what you're citing as example didn't follow.

Your organization never used the story of Samaritan to teach their members how to get help or assistance from anyone outside the organization but they have numerous hate teaching towards other bodies which is the reason why this girl refused help from Catholic and the reason 99% of JWs will follow the same path when they found themselves in her shoe.

Jesus said in the story of Good Samaritan that we can help anyone, and anyone can help us irrespective of tribe or religion, Do you agree with Jesus or what you think some people would do ?

Barristter07:
Calm down, inhumane by choice or Created that way by God ?

Are you up before?

What they did is called inhumane.

No two ways about that

Jesus said in the story of Good Samaritan that we can help anyone, and anyone can help us irrespective of tribe or religion, Do you agree with Jesus or what you think some people would do?

I agree with Jesus!
But your organization don't teach such

Now my question, can you get assistance from a body your organization always refers to as harlot of Jerusalem or Babylonian the great?

Emusan:


Are you up before?

What they did is called inhumane.


No two ways about that

That inhumane behavior is a choice, God didn't make them that way.

I agree with Jesus!

I agree with Jesus too, I can assist anyone and anyone can assist me. That has been my stand , Not what some people will do or or say. That's their choices to make .

Barristter07:
That inhumane behavior is a choice, God didn't make them that way.

But the story of Samaritan isn't about choice, which is my initial stand.

I agree with Jesus too, I can assist anyone and anyone can assist me. That has been my stand , Not what some people will do or or say. That's their choices to make .

See this one.....

Now you can't answer my question in a straight face

Since I've been asking that question, no JWs have been able to answer in Yes or No! Yet you're all condemning the girl instead of speaking against the teaching she received.

But that's what your organization will do or say, which is a perfect example of what happened to this girl.

If your organization hadn't labelled Catholic/other denominations all sort of names to receive assistant or help from them won't be difficult for any JWs.

You're just here chasing nothing.

Emusan:


But the story of Samaritan isn't about choice, which is my initial stand.



See this one.....

Now you can't answer my question in a straight face

Since I've been asking that question, no JWs have been able to answer in Yes or No! Yet you're all condemning the girl instead of speaking against the teaching she received.

But that's what your organization will do or say, which is a perfect example of what happened to this girl.

If your organization hadn't labelled Catholic/other denominations all sort of names to receive assistant or help from them won't be difficult for any JWs.

You're just here chasing nothing.

This is Barristter07 , not any organization

I already told you my stand. I agree with Jesus that I can assist anyone and anyone can assist me, do you know the meaning of ANYONE, Even an LGBTQ member , What's your obsession with what some people will do?

Barristter07:
This is Barristter07 , not any organization

So was my post directed to Barristter07 before?

I already told you my stand.

I know but my post is what WTBTS teaches

I agree with Jesus that I can assist anyone and anyone can assist me

But your organization has different opinion on that

do you know the meaning of ANYONE, Even an LGBTQ member

I know which still bring us back to my initial question, can you Barristter07 seek help or assistance from a body your organization called "The Harlot of Jerusalem or Babylonian the great"?

What's your obsession with what some people will do?

I have no obsession on what anybody will do but my point on this thread when I saw your fellow JWs blaming the girl for what she did rather than blaming the teaching she received, is that most Jehovah witness will do the same thing that this girl did.

Which is the reason why none of you ever answer my question.

Emusan:

So was my post directed to Barristter07 before?
I know but my post is what WTBTS teaches
But your organization has different opinion on that.
I know which still bring us back to my initial question, can you Barristter07 seek help or assistance from a body your organization called "The Harlot of Jerusalem or Babylonian the great"?
I have no obsession on what anybody will do but my point on this thread when I saw your fellow JWs blaming the girl for what she did rather than blaming the teaching she received, is that most Jehovah witness will do the same thing that this girl did.
Which is the reason why none of you ever answer my question.

You answered that you know my stand, yet still commited the same error , If the Jewish man can accept the help of a Samaritan many of whom are pagans, and Jesus was happy with the Samaritan, Who am I not to accept Assistance from anyone either tribe, people, Government, organization, gender, religion, race - that's willing to do so ? Didn't I also tell you I can even assist someone of LGBTQ orientation if am in the capacity and yes I can accept assistance from them if they offer ?