hysteresis:

Oga since you know d 8 points, list them naa and stop typing rubbish

WoundedLamb:


If these are his terms, he's actually relaxed his requirements. Check the 8 points he gave in December 2021.

Quiny32323:
This one is not possible oga!!! Both sides are idiots but I will blame putin more for falling into this trap set by the west, I guess Putin is not a good history student,he should have remembered how the west trapped his uncles in Afghanistan for years sotey dey run back to russia after exhausting both men and material. The same is gonna play out, russia will fight till dey get exhausted, already the west is supplying weapons and what have you to sustain the fight,at the end the 2 countries will pay a huge price, zelensky for me is a tool in the hands of the west.

KazikageSama:
Both sides are stressed out in this war.
Ukraine put too much faith in US and NATO, unfortunately all they've got so far are sanctions and more sanctions.
Russia also put faith in China backing them, but all they've also gotten is supporter's club from the bench.

Peace must reign in this matter.

NigeriaZoo:
Putin is feeling the heat. At least this is a step in the right direction.

WoundedLamb:


I don't understand you guys over there. Couldn't you have asked me to provide the 8 points without the aggression?

Anyway, here they are:

Article 1: the parties should not strengthen their security at the expense of Russia’s security;

Article 2: the parties will use multilateral consultations and the NATO-Russia Council to address points of conflict;

Article 3: the parties reaffirm that they do not consider each other as adversaries and maintain a dialogue;

Article 4: the parties shall not deploy military forces and weaponry on the territory of any of the other states in Europe in addition to any forces that were deployed as of May 27, 1997;

Article 5: the parties shall not deploy land-based intermediate- and short-range missiles adjacent to the other parties;

Article 6: all member States of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization commit themselves to refrain from any further enlargement of NATO, including the accession of Ukraine as well as other States;

Article 7: the parties that are member States of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization shall not conduct any military activity on the territory of Ukraine as well as other States in the Eastern Europe, in the South Caucasus and in Central Asia; and

Article 8: the agreement shall not be interpreted as affecting the primary responsibility of the Security Council of the United Nations for maintaining international peace and security.

seanfer:
If this is true then the heat is getting to Putin. Just last week He told Macron that he will not back down. Interesting days ahead

SocialJustice:
This Putin is just a stupid man. Ukraine should speed up joining the EU and NATO. There is no place in the world for leaders like Putin anymore.

TenQ:

Step in the right direction!?

1. Ukraine ceasing military action
2. Changing its constitution to enshrine neutrality
3. Acknowledging Crimea as Russian territory
4. Recognising the separatist republics of Donetsk and Lugansk as independent states.

Who indeed should cease military actions?
Who has the right to tell another sovereign country to amend her constitution?
Russia had already forcefully taken Crimea: Why do they want Ukraine to acknowledge Crimea as Russian territory
The Crimea is already taken nau
As if Donetsk and Lugansk are 100% Russian speaking people: What of the pure Ukrainians who live there?

Shoodboi:
Ukraine should take the deal because Putin will enforce them (and add a few punishments) if he forcefully takes over Kyiv. (He's still consolidating his hold on surrounding the capital and seizing the airports he needs to stage a final assault on Kyiv.)

This is the price you pay or not using your common sense when you share borders with a military superpower. The US almost invaded (and considered nuking) Cuba when they tried something similar in 1962.

And to everyone screaming "Putin is losing" and all that, the war is only 12 days and the capital is already surrounded. Imagine?

Ukraine's capital was completely surrounded on the 3rd day of the war (Feb 27), and yet you all claim Ukraine's winning. Even Saddam Hussein put up a better fight, even though the US had bombed him for years and bombed the shit out of him a whole month before invading in 2003.

TOPCRUISE:
If Zelensky concede to their demands it will be seen as a sign of surrender

Shoodboi:
Ukraine should take the deal because Putin will enforce them (and add a few punishments) if he forcefully takes over Kyiv. (He's still consolidating his hold on surrounding the capital and seizing the airports he needs to stage a final assault on Kyiv.)

This is the price you pay or not using your common sense when you share borders with a military superpower. The US almost invaded (and considered nuking) Cuba when they tried something similar in 1962.

And to everyone screaming "Putin is losing" and all that, the war is only 12 days and the capital is already surrounded. Imagine?

Ukraine's capital was completely surrounded on the 3rd day of the war (Feb 27), and yet you all claim Ukraine's winning. Even Saddam Hussein put up a better fight, even though the US had bombed him for years and bombed the shit out of him a whole month before invading in 2003.

Emmyxclusive:
They have rejected all the conditions already

useni1:
you are highly brainwashed. If Russia want, the fight will extend to Germany and other western European country. And I don't mean Russia attacking any of them. They can stage attacks on those countries through proxy and say it is the effect of the Ukraine war. More weapons are in Europe now without control so think properly before typing nonsense here

baralatie:

Let us say the number 1 is not feasible!
No 2 and No 3 form the crux of the matter for this war to stop!
A clause in Ukraine constitution that places it ass nation that is nuetral will make it like switzerland.that should bring less fear to.all.sidez.
Now ukraines has a civil war for 8 years.what do you think will be the best option inorder to stop that war!
That war was an offshoot of a coup and divided the Ukraine into a pro west and pro Russia and it has degenerated to what we have now!

1stGenAmerican:


The most powerful man in the world and his nation’s currency is worthless? The dollar won’t collapse anytime soon and if it did, your Naira would be worthless. Here is what the man you call powerful has done to his country:

TenQ:

Putin/Russia is like a bad husband/boyfriend.
He maltreated his wife to a point when the wife is looking to divorce him and marry someone else: the jealous husband is now screaming blue murder!

How can Ukraine pledge neutrality to a confirmed enemy?
Cn you be neutral to armed robbers who come to your home every three months?

Donetsk and Lugansk are not 100% russian speaking. There are sizable populations of Ukrainians there as their primary place of birth.

Russia had two alternatives
1. Make military alliance with Argentina, Cuba etc
The only condition of withdrawing is if NATO permanently rejects Ukraine from membership.
2. Promise to invade Ukraine on the day Ukraine signs any agreement with NATO.

Unfortunately, Russia will pay many years of reparation to Ukraine before sanctions is lifted.

dappydozzy:


Putin has not said he wants a ceasefire, before the invasion he gave conditions to prevent the invasion, and now after the invasion he is given conditions, he is even humane to do so, he has never said he is backing down, In international politics, a war is defined as the final test of power, it is left for the comedian president to accept these conditions for peace and not let himself to be manipulated by the West. Russia won't allow Ukraine to join NATO, it either they take it or leave it.

useni1:
Putin new world order. The most powerful man in the world! The world changed the day Russia invaded Ukraine. Russia and China are now the big boys and world police. Putin should continue with the assualt, the longer the war the more Europe who choose to be a vassal state will collapse. The day the dollars dies millions will rejoice from Kashmir to Dakar.

baralatie:
so likewise in the other parts of Ukraine.there is a huge portion of Russian families who have Ukraine as there place of birth!
It makes no difference at this stage .if you were born in Ukraine you will be issued a Ukrainian birth certificate and passport.if you were born in Donetsk,lohansk you will be issued a birth certificate and passport.
The advantage here is that Russia,Ukraine,Donetsk,lohansk,Crimea will not discriminate you because you come from these regions
Ukraine,Donetsk,lohanskand Crimea are meant to continue in economic cooperation,social integration and security alliance.
This is what is needed for peace in this region.
It will be unsafe for a country to have an organization like NATO in the backyard of it's neighbour having missles pointing directly to an important member in that region.

Ukraine already has solutions to it's problem on its table
1.to stop the 8 years civil war with the three regions and recognize their independence.(they are already broken away ass's speak)
2.form an alliance with it's neighbors so that there will be no further break ups and civil wars

NigeriaZoo:


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war-putin-latest-kyiv-zelensky-b2029871.html

TenQ:

I have stated the solutions paths Russia could have taken. Russia's problem is not with Ukraine it is with NATO. Unfortunately, Russia left the main enemy to bully the small Ukraine. Just put yourself in Ukraines position.

Can you prove that the civil war in Ukraine wasn't sponsored by Russia?

TenQ:

I have stated the solutions paths Russia could have taken. Russia's problem is not with Ukraine it is with NATO. Unfortunately, Russia left the main enemy to bully the small Ukraine. Just put yourself in Ukraines position.

Can you prove that the civil war in Ukraine wasn't sponsored by Russia?

NigeriaZoo:
Putin is feeling the heat. At least this is a step in the right direction.

seanfer:
If this is true then the heat is getting to Putin. Just last week He told Macron that he will not back down. Interesting days ahead

useni1:
Putin new world order. The most powerful man in the world! The world changed the day Russia invaded Ukraine. Russia and China are now the big boys and world police. Putin should continue with the assualt, the longer the war the more Europe who choose to be a vassal state will collapse. The day the dollars dies millions will rejoice from Kashmir to Dakar.

FreeStuffsNG:
Any news from British platform just raises my suspicion.

There is this relentless posting of pro-Ukraine news by British news platforms that just do not truly reflect the harsh odds against Ukranians and their President as the losing side. It is as if they are cashing out huge ad revenues from these news at the expense of the fact.

Hyping President Zelensky as a war hero at this time is irresponsible.

Suddenly they are not carrying covid 19 related news. They should not feed from the mysteries of Ukranians rather should sustain the campaign to compel President Putin to withdraw his troops and stop killing the Ukranians.
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Russia and china don't care about u children of the religion of piss.

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useni1:
Putin new world order. The most powerful man in the world! The world changed the day Russia invaded Ukraine. Russia and China are now the big boys and world police. Putin should continue with the assualt, the longer the war the more Europe who choose to be a vassal state will collapse. The day the dollars dies millions will rejoice from Kashmir to Dakar.