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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Ballzproblemm: 10:45am On Jun 19, 2022
is the bottom for crypto ? cause the way e recover from that $17k dip

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Icecream4U(m): 10:54am On Jun 19, 2022
OpenHeaven2019:


18k will never happen yen yen yen
In this street, everybody seems to be right and wrong at some point. grin

I remember when you used to screem "Orna go learn, I have been hodling since last year!"

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by missuzoma: 10:55am On Jun 19, 2022
You're not going to lose heavily if you closely follow international news. There was serious notice before the present bear season and I sold off a lot and I'm gradually buying at a very cheap rate. My bag is heavy now and the next bull market will see me smiling.

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Goldbw122(m): 11:06am On Jun 19, 2022
Let me keep this here for reference purpose.
What Are Leveraged Tokens?
These are ERC-20 tokens that offer leverage to holders. By using these tokens, you automatically gain a leveraged position, unlike traditional trading methods. These tokens offer convenience as they don’t require you to take care of the margins or to have an understanding of liquidation risk.
Leveraged tokens feature both fixed and variable leverage. Conventionally, these assets rebalance themselves daily at 00:02:00 UTC or when the spot market price changes by 10%. However, it’s not the same for all crypto exchanges. Some exchanges have different sets of rules in place for rebalancing.
Important Note:

Make sure you properly understand leveraged tokens before you trade them because of their high-risk nature.

How Is Leverage Calculated?
Let’s say you are holding a 3X Long Bitcoin Token and its price is $19,269.15. The leverage will be 3X =$19,269.15*3/$19,269.15+3*($19,269.15–$19,269.15).

Now, in case the price of 3X Long Bitcoin Token increases to $20,000, the leverage will be $20,000*3/$20,000+3*($20,000–$20,000).

When the price of a 3X Long Bitcoin Token (or any leveraged token you are using) decreases, the leverage goes up. On the other hand, if the price increases, it goes down.

For every 1% Bitcoin goes up in a day, 3X Long Bitcoin Token goes up by 3%; for every 1% Bitcoin goes down, 3X Long Bitcoin token goes down 3%.

Why Are Leveraged Tokens Used?
These are used mainly for the following three reasons:

Managing Risks
Leveraged tokens manage risk on their own. They automatically reinvest the profit into the underlying asset and sell some of them online when the price drops—to avoid potential liquidation risk.

Managing Margin
You can gain a leverage position in the cryptocurrency market without taking margin, collateral, liquidity, and other such features into account. In simple words, you can spend $19,269 or whatever is the current price and have a 3X Long Bitcoin Token.
ERC-20 Tokens
Essentially, these are ERC-20 tokens, which means you can withdraw them whenever you want. Leveraged tokens are preferred over margin positions because you have the liberty to send them to any ETH wallet or transfer to any other platform that supports them.

How to Buy or Sell Leveraged Tokens?
There are multiple ways to buy or sell leveraged tokens. However, three of the most common ways include:

Spot markets are recommended to buy or sell them. You have to visit the spot market of the leveraged token on any exchange to trade these tokens.
Another way is by converting your cryptocurrency in your wallet to leveraged tokens.

The least common way among the three is the creation or redemption of leveraged tokens. This method is only suitable when you’re completely aware of their working and have gone through the documentation of the platform.

Leveraged Tokens are high-risk products and you should consider their pros and cons before trading them

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Titanium001: 11:14am On Jun 19, 2022
Kingsteve:


Thanks for acknowledging!
Like I keep saying, only the few wise and intelligent ones will always take vital info and fly with it, while the I'd!ots destined for eternal failure will never see good in anything.

Let them keep wallowing in their sheer ignorance till they all bleed out of the crypto space.

Bunch of ungrateful lunatics!
You all deserve failure.
LOL, you sound frustrated

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by BlenzTalk: 11:42am On Jun 19, 2022
Long Doge
NFA
cheesy
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Ballzproblemm: 11:46am On Jun 19, 2022
Titanium001:
LOL, you sound frustrated
nigga sounds like overgrown baby throwing tantrum
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by dryakson(m): 11:47am On Jun 19, 2022
Goldbw122:
Let me keep this here for reference purpose.
What Are Leveraged Tokens?
These are ERC-20 tokens that offer leverage to holders. By using these tokens, you automatically gain a leveraged position, unlike traditional trading methods. These tokens offer convenience as they don’t require you to take care of the margins or to have an understanding of liquidation risk.
Leveraged tokens feature both fixed and variable leverage. Conventionally, these assets rebalance themselves daily at 00:02:00 UTC or when the spot market price changes by 10%. However, it’s not the same for all crypto exchanges. Some exchanges have different sets of rules in place for rebalancing.
Important Note:

Make sure you properly understand leveraged tokens before you trade them because of their high-risk nature.

How Is Leverage Calculated?
Let’s say you are holding a 3X Long Bitcoin Token and its price is $19,269.15. The leverage will be 3X =$19,269.15*3/$19,269.15+3*($19,269.15–$19,269.15).

Now, in case the price of 3X Long Bitcoin Token increases to $20,000, the leverage will be $20,000*3/$20,000+3*($20,000–$20,000).

When the price of a 3X Long Bitcoin Token (or any leveraged token you are using) decreases, the leverage goes up. On the other hand, if the price increases, it goes down.

For every 1% Bitcoin goes up in a day, 3X Long Bitcoin Token goes up by 3%; for every 1% Bitcoin goes down, 3X Long Bitcoin token goes down 3%.

Why Are Leveraged Tokens Used?
These are used mainly for the following three reasons:

Managing Risks
Leveraged tokens manage risk on their own. They automatically reinvest the profit into the underlying asset and sell some of them online when the price drops—to avoid potential liquidation risk.

Managing Margin
You can gain a leverage position in the cryptocurrency market without taking margin, collateral, liquidity, and other such features into account. In simple words, you can spend $19,269 or whatever is the current price and have a 3X Long Bitcoin Token.
ERC-20 Tokens
Essentially, these are ERC-20 tokens, which means you can withdraw them whenever you want. Leveraged tokens are preferred over margin positions because you have the liberty to send them to any ETH wallet or transfer to any other platform that supports them.

How to Buy or Sell Leveraged Tokens?
There are multiple ways to buy or sell leveraged tokens. However, three of the most common ways include:

Spot markets are recommended to buy or sell them. You have to visit the spot market of the leveraged token on any exchange to trade these tokens.
Another way is by converting your cryptocurrency in your wallet to leveraged tokens.

The least common way among the three is the creation or redemption of leveraged tokens. This method is only suitable when you’re completely aware of their working and have gone through the documentation of the platform.

Leveraged Tokens are high-risk products and you should consider their pros and cons before trading them
You failed to mention that it is not recommended to hold Lev tokens for long.

For example: If BTC continues to rise in the first 10 days with a total increase of 200%, and then immediately falls for 10 days in a row with a total decline of 200%, then the net value of BTC3L and BTC3S may be at the risk of tending to zero. To ensure certain volatility, the share-merging mechanism will be triggered.

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by njubu: 12:03pm On Jun 19, 2022
OpenHeaven2019:
Over the past few days I have been analyzing what i did right and what I did wrong in this last bull market. I have also looked at things I didn’t do.

The last cycle I made some money and lost it all in the bear market. This time I made money and I kept it. This bear market has taken nothing from me.

The next bull market I’m going to make at least a million dollar. With the experience I have had in the past 2 cycles, it would be very very easy to pull off.

I hope you are still here then.
abeg even if I go make 50k usd. Please carry us along.

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Goldbw122(m): 12:05pm On Jun 19, 2022
dryakson:

You failed to mention that it is not recommended to hold Lev tokens for long.

For example: If BTC continues to rise in the first 10 days with a total increase of 200%, and then immediately falls for 10 days in a row with a total decline of 200%, then the net value of BTC3L and BTC3S may be at the risk of tending to zero. To ensure certain volatility, the share-merging mechanism will be triggered.
Thank you, you know we learn everyday.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Kingsteve(m): 12:05pm On Jun 19, 2022
Titanium001:
LOL, you sound frustrated

Let's just say I detest I'd!ots with so much passion, who have absolutely nothing meaningful to contribute.

All you see them write is scam, fraud, scam and more fraud.
Absolutely nothing positive to contribute to this thread.






I loathe them!
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Goldbw122(m): 12:08pm On Jun 19, 2022
Ballzproblemm:
is the bottom for crypto ? cause the way e recover from that $17k dip
Maybe, maybe not.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Kingsteve(m): 12:10pm On Jun 19, 2022
Abi una don dey dissect Leveraged tokens, but when I talked about it earlier, little attention was paid.
One even said it was nonsense (I no blame that one anyway, what does he know besides scam)

Una go learn Las Las.
No be everybody with good intentions be una favourite word...scam!
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by OllyArt(m): 12:14pm On Jun 19, 2022
I drop crypto last year December and i have been going strong, now i put my money in printing machine an huge investment so far so good wink

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by OllyArt(m): 12:15pm On Jun 19, 2022
OllyArt:
Btc going to #10 and you can do nothing about it

Another weekly reminder.

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Goldbw122(m): 12:22pm On Jun 19, 2022
OllyArt:
I drop crypto last year December and i have been going strong, now i put my money in printing machine an huge investment so far so good wink
Wise decision ever.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by cmoney22222: 12:38pm On Jun 19, 2022
For which time . Omo na water person go enter.

Lol

BlenzTalk:
Long Doge
NFA
cheesy

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Geovanni412(m): 1:22pm On Jun 19, 2022
Geovanni412:
Trade idea

disclaimer : This is not financial advice

SOLANA - sell
entry at 30
s/l at 39
leverage - 3x on binance;

LTC - sell
entry at 46
s/l at 55
leverage -3x on binance.

Disclaimer : this is not financial advice
Ltc... adjusting s/l to 61 which is the liquidation price with 3x leverage in light of the recent developments.

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Nobody: 1:31pm On Jun 19, 2022
lipsrsealed

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Geovanni412(m): 1:33pm On Jun 19, 2022
Kingsteve:


Yes, I agree with you!
You need sharp, eagle-eyed technical skills to trade leveraged tokens.
What's the point of trading if you can't decipher the charts?

In my opinion, only futures and spot leveraged tokens can provide active traders with daily income.

Tbh, i am doing sth similar with deriv broker. I trade cfds on altcoins there. I noticed they have two unique instruments there...btc/eth and btc/ltc. These instruments mirror the movement of the btcdom chart in some way (lead or lag). With all the sideways movement on my trades(algo, trx and xlm), I picked a trade on btc/eth and it is going well.
I am still not a fan of leveraged tokens (...i no get energy to study am) but i buy into the idea of trading diverse instruments related to btc like btcdom or defi index.

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by HornyTave: 1:41pm On Jun 19, 2022
Hotice085:
I have not seen HornyTave one of the police spy/CBN boys here for a good while, he escaped me but I don't think he escaped BTC dip

Seems he must have ran back to the OBAs palace from Lagos....ol boy wetin de sup abi Bitcoin don Caput you?

Ahaha, I deh baba, I escaped btc dip, haven't been in market since April
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by femijay8271(m): 1:43pm On Jun 19, 2022
Ikillbrokehoes:
Octafx bruh...LMAO....if I get the kind of money wey Elon get you no go see me here, thanks though. grin
Thanks bruh.. grin
$2300


Bro please teach me how to kill this fish na
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Kingsteve(m): 1:46pm On Jun 19, 2022
Geovanni412:


Tbh, i am doing sth similar with deriv broker. I trade cfds on altcoins there. I noticed they have two unique instruments there...btc/eth and btc/ltc. These instruments mirror the movement of the btcdom chart in some way (lead or lag). With all the sideways movement on my trades(algo, trx and xlm), I picked a trade on btc/eth and it is going well.
I am still not a fan of leveraged tokens (...i no get energy to study am) but i buy into the idea of trading diverse instruments related to btc like btcdom or defi index.

It's all good.
The idea is to make money whichever way in this bear market.
No be because of bear market, person no go trade again.
As long as there's price movement, a trader should be able to take profits, no matter the direction.

Happy trading!

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by myonekobosay: 1:47pm On Jun 19, 2022
how do you appeal a p2p rogue transaction on kucoin? anyone.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Geovanni412(m): 1:57pm On Jun 19, 2022
Kingsteve:


It's all good.
The idea is to make money whichever way in this bear market.
No be because of bear market, person no go trade again.
As long as there's price movement, a trader should be able to take profits, no matter the direction.

Happy trading!

Na the koko be that! .
After your suggestion on leveraged tokens, i did some thinking and I came to this conclusion.
Trading more than one altcoin is simply MULTIPLYING your risk - the charts are all similar except for TRX. If you lose one, you lose all. If you are risk conscious, It is better to FOCUS on one altcoin and one index and use like 3x leverage for futures trading.
The Liquidation point of 3x is the BEST S/L i.e. a 33 percent increase or decrease is enough as s/l.
Nobody knows it all in business. We reconsider things and adjust everyday.

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Kingsteve(m): 1:59pm On Jun 19, 2022
Geovanni412:


Na the koko be that! .
After your suggestion on leveraged tokens, i did some thinking and I came to this conclusion.
Trading more than one altcoin is simply MULTIPLYING your risk - the charts are all similar except for TRX. If you lose one, you lose all. If you are risk conscious, It is better to FOCUS on one altcoin and one index and use like 3x leverage for futures trading.
The Liquidation point of 3x is the BEST S/L i.e. a 33 percent increase of decrease is enough as s/l.
Nobody knows it all in business. We reconsider things and adjust everyday.
That's the spirit!
Nice one!
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Ezlynn: 2:00pm On Jun 19, 2022
lajid:


When is the best time to invest in btc again sir? Before it rises

This is the best time to invest and you can buy the dip at an amazing rate from your bank on https://yellowcard.io/
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Ezlynn: 2:07pm On Jun 19, 2022
myonekobosay:
how do you appeal a p2p rogue transaction on kucoin? anyone.
Try contacting their customer support team... This is why I commend Gemini, Paxful and Yellow Card, they've curbed this by providing strong security framework through KYC.

Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by seankafor(m): 2:09pm On Jun 19, 2022
renminbiyuan:
lipsrsealed
Omo ×30 loverage shocked

Why?

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by nnamdi640: 2:30pm On Jun 19, 2022
Ezlynn:

Try contacting their customer support team... This is why I commend Gemini, Paxful and Yellow Card, they've curbed this by providing strong security framework through KYC.
Would cbn block your account? I heard that crypto transaction with bank is ban
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Geovanni412(m): 3:23pm On Jun 19, 2022
seankafor:
Omo ×30 loverage shocked

Why?

Na scalper im be (5min/15 min chart guy). If you are scalping, you can have leverage as high as that if you have a very good entry.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Hannover(m): 3:30pm On Jun 19, 2022
OpenHeaven2019:
Over the past few days I have been analyzing what i did right and what I did wrong in this last bull market. I have also looked at things I didn’t do.

The last cycle I made some money and lost it all in the bear market. This time I made money and I kept it. This bear market has taken nothing from me.

The next bull market I’m going to make at least a million dollar. With the experience I have had in the past 2 cycles, it would be very very easy to pull off.

I hope you are still here then.

Keep Dreaming!!! Study the charts so you know what really going on instead of being emotional. This bear run is gonna be on for a long while(through 2022). So gear up for the tough BTC winter!!

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