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Wait Wait Wait, Na roland17 be this abi dem hack you?


You dont want kyrie your beloveth again? Wonders shall never end

Roland17:
Special Leprechaun? As much as I have defended him on this thread, he is no longer welcome in Boston. Houston will not be a bad landing spot, you can give him the Harden treatment..

donlittle25:
Wait Wait Wait, Na roland17 be this abi dem hack you?


You dont want kyrie your beloveth again? Wonders shall never end

Man of God, na me oh! I am only protecting his life because e no safe for Boston

Na why I say Houston go fit am. @birdman fit feed am the burger wen dem feed Harden

wait, SAS is out with a shoulder injury. On top wetin?!!! Lmao. We need Kyrie, Simmons and AD to comment on this situation. Wetin concern sportscaster with shoulder injury. Or is this a stylish contract dispute

birdman:
wait, SAS is out with a shoulder injury. On top wetin?!!! Lmao. We need Kyrie, Simmons and AD to comment on this situation. Wetin concern sportscaster with shoulder injury. Or is this a stylish contract dispute

I saw him with the shoulder sling, so it might actually be real.

donlittle25:
Six first round picks?

Blame the Timberwolves for giving out 4 first rounders for Rudy freakin Gobert. I won't take less than 6 picks if I were a GM as well

donlittle25:
Why he decided to team up with kyrie is something I will never understand in the first place.

Wan win championship with person wey say you no need coach

These players never learn. Them no dey take buddy buddy win Championships oh. What you had was two 'friends' who didn't look each other in the eye and tell each other the truth. Zero accountability. Zero leadership

They are not serious. Let them keep hopping from team to team

Roland17:
KD to the Suns is not entirely out of the picture, however, it will take multiple teams, say 3-4 teams to complete the trade. Thing is, KD is going to command a lot and while everyone wants him, only very few teams can afford what the Nets are demanding. The Suns want him because this year might be their last shot with CP3 and they have shown us that Booker is not that guy who can carry a team to a championship.

Running it back with the Nets is not possible if Kyrie is there. But the Nets have made it clear that they want to resolve the KD situation first before Kyrie’s and Kyrie has said he will be fine with staying in Brooklyn. I remember saying on this thread that KD and and Kyrie became distant after the playoffs and have not been close as usual since then. I think everyone involved has come to the conclusion that Kyrie is the common denominator. KD has to take some responsibility for how he allowed Kyrie disrupt their entire season and stayed quiet about it. I don’t expect him to speak about it. I think he believed he could reel the team despite the dysfunction going on.

The management also did a horrible job when the failed to pull the brakes on everyone when the nonsense was going on. Harden left because of Kyrie. He could not deal with it. KD wants stability, I think that is the biggest for him. Also, I don’t think he rates Nash anyways and that is another issue that has not been talked about. The Suns have most of his needs to succeed.

I can see him start the season with the Nets but ultimately leave at some point but for the sake of clarity, it’s best it is resolved before the start of the new season. To your question, yes, Kobe.

I strongly suspect that there is a silent deal between Joe Tsai and the other owners of the league to ensure that there would never be enough pieces for Brooklyn to agree to this trade. If KD is allowed to pull this off then a dangerous precedent has been set. Contracts would be as useful as toilet paper

A40:
I strongly suspect that there is a silent deal between Joe Tsai and the other owners of the league to ensure that there would never be enough pieces for Brooklyn to agree to this trade. If KD is allowed to pull this off then a dangerous precedent has been set. Contracts would be as useful as toilet paper

Baba, truth is, when it comes to contracts with superstars and some star players the precedent has already been established and only another round of CBA can change the current situation.

KD is the biggest superstar to request a trade and is rightfully going to command the attention and demands. The Nets are right to seek a haul because of the caliber of player involved in the trade, it comes with the territory.

The owners have to be strong and united during the next CBA to put a stop to this. There has to be a serious consequence on players who seek trades during an active contract.

A40:
These players never learn. Them no dey take buddy buddy win Championships oh. What you had was two 'friends' who didn't look each other in the eye and tell each other the truth. Zero accountability. Zero leadership

They are not serious. Let them keep hopping from team to team

Absolutely and to me, this is more on KD than Kyrie. This is where my guy KD failed. He has all the power to hold everyone on that roster accountable but he allowed Kyrie/ Harden/ Ben to just do whatever they liked.

Also, management and coaching lacked the courage to put a stop to it. They knew what was going on was a mess but they were too afraid to stop it.. Well, guess what? They got swept!

Roland17:
Baba, truth is, when it comes to contracts with superstars and some star players the precedence has already been established and only another round of CBA can change the current situation.

KD is the biggest superstar to request a trade and is rightfully going to command the attention and demands. The Nets are right to seek a haul because of the caliber of player involved in the trade, it comes with the territory.

The owners have to be strong and united during the next CBA to put a stop to this. There has to be a serious consequence on players who seek trades during an active contract.

I understand it's a cutthroat business but even in cutthroat businesses there has to be some form of a code.

It's absolute madness that a guy who signed a 4 year deal has the gall to ask for a trade when the deal has barely kicked in.

The truth is any team that wants to get KD barring the Warriors will have to completely gut it's roster and mortgage it's future. So where does that leave KD? If these teams have any honor or code they should band together and not provide any offer worth considering. That is the only way this so-called power can be taken

Superstars seemingly have power because of GMs also willing to do what it takes to win which is good but also bad. There has to be some rules of engagement of sorts

A40:
I understand it's a cutthroat business but even in cutthroat businesses there has to be some form of a code.

It's absolute madness that a guy who signed a 4 year deal has the gall to ask for a trade when the deal has barely kicked in.

The truth is any team that wants to get KD barring the Warriors will have to completely gut it's roster and mortgage it's future. So where does that leave KD? If these teams have any honor or code they should band together and not provide any offer worth considering. That is the only way this so-called power can be taken

Superstars seemingly have power because of GMs also willing to do what it takes to win which is good but also bad. There has to be some rules of engagement of sorts

Baba there is no gall involved. The Raptors swore to high heaven's that they would not trade
DeRozan to his face. When they did, they did not even give him the courtesy of a heads-up when they found out about the opportunity to make a deal with the Spurs, Masai only called him after the trade was done. So if the teams can trade away a player with 2-3 years left on their contract, a player should also have the same right. Basketball at this level is a profession like any other.
D Same thing happened with Blake 1 month after the Clippers convinced him to sign long term they turned around and traded him with no warning.
If teams wants to include a provision in the next CBA that no player can be traded until after a certain duration of his contract has been played out, then it must be a 2 way thing.

donlittle25:
Six first round picks?

Demented

Android22:
Revisionism will soon make this ring, easy. So to prevent that I just want to remind people that ESPN felt Boston had this surety of beating GSW.

True! The disrespect!! The hype around JT was too much even to the extent of voting him NBA first team instead of Embiid. Come on man, Tatum is good but the scoring champ deserved that spot more.

A40:
I think 2019 proved that you can never guarantee a title till these guys actually play on the court. Bear in mind KD had injury issues last season as well.

Honestly I feel that good vibes died with 2019. I don't see any sense rekindling it. The Warriors winning one more chip with this team would be worth more than 3 straight chips adding KD. And I can guarantee you they are not winning 3 straight. Too many things have to go your way for that to happen.

Hell this Warriors team as presently built are likelier doing a 3peat than what they will be left with after gutting their entire young depth for KD.

KD and Steph will be 35 with 16 and 14 years of ball respectively. Klay coming off an ACL and Achilles injury. I daresay trading for KD would be suicidal

Unfortunately, pieces of that championship team have been hacked off the likes of Otto Porter, GP2 and Bjelica. I would have preferred they traded Moody, a second round pick so as to retain GP2 for another season. The maths with the capspace could be a problem but anything for GP2 who is a legit perimeter defender compared to a Moody who hasn't impressed or a Wiseman that might just be a draft burst with his injuries.

Roland17:
Absolutely and to me, this is more on KD than Kyrie. This is where my guy KD failed. He has all the power to hold everyone on that roster accountable but he allowed Kyrie/ Harden/ Ben to just do whatever they liked.

Also, management and coaching lacked the courage to put a stop to it. They knew what was going on was a mess but they were too afraid to stop it.. Well, guess what? They got swept!

True! That is what you call leadership. KD is no leader. Embiid called Simmons out on his shit, that is someone who wants to win and wants the team to be better. That is a leader. Same with Draymond. He called KD out on his diva attitude. Curry might be the superstar with the best skill-set and highest PPG but Draymond is the one who enforces discipline in the team. The likes of Steph and Klay low-key fear Draymond's acidic tongue.

greypencils:
True! The disrespect!! The hype around JT was too much even to the extent of voting him NBA first team instead of Embiid. Come on man, Tatum is good but the scoring champ deserved that spot more.

JT got voted for 1st team all-nba because Embiid is a center. As long as the voting uses positions, then there had to be just 1 center to preserve tradition

greypencils:
True! The disrespect!! The hype around JT was too much even to the extent of voting him NBA first team instead of Embiid. Come on man, Tatum is good but the scoring champ deserved that spot more.

Blame the NBA and the selection rules for Embiid’s exclusion not JT. JT’s selection was very well deserved.

Khanben:
Baba there is no gall involved. The Raptors swore to high heaven's that they would not trade
DeRozan to his face. When they did, they did not even give him the courtesy of a heads-up when they found out about the opportunity to make a deal with the Spurs, Masai only called him after the trade was done. So if the teams can trade away a player with 2-3 years left on their contract, a player should also have the same right. Basketball at this level is a profession like any other.
D Same thing happened with Blake 1 month after the Clippers convinced him to sign long term they turned around and traded him with no warning.
If teams wants to include a provision in the next CBA that no player can be traded until after a certain duration of his contract has been played out, then it must be a 2 way thing.

Lool. In what world and what profession have you seen employees and employers of labor have the same cache and have or play by the same rules. Let's get real.

A player cannot have the same rights as the owner. That is not a sustainable system to run. In every walk of life there's a chain of command bro. DeRozan gets paid regardless so whether they inform him or not is immaterial. It's like the civil service when you sign up to a contract you can get traded. Unless you work a no trade clause somehow in your contract like it's done in other sports

Basketballers only enjoy the luxury of the fact that they're fewer guys on the court so 1 player can hold a franchise by the balls. The next CBA would be very interesting. Understand that owners can shut the league down. They don't rely on day to day money like the players do. They have other sources of income

greypencils:
Unfortunately, pieces of that championship team have been hacked off the likes of Otto Porter, GP2 and Bjelica. I would have preferred they traded Moody, a second round pick so as to retain GP2 for another season. The maths with the capspace could be a problem but anything for GP2 who is a legit perimeter defender compared to a Moody who hasn't impressed or a Wiseman that might just be a draft burst with his injuries.

GP2 was a huge loss. His increased minutes was one of the little overlooked things that turned the series in the Warriors favor. Especially his performance in Game 5

He does so many things that don't show up in the stats sheet. That was the one guy the Warriors had to find a way to keep

My original babe bows out with a bronze medal at the World Championship.
#AllysonFelix

A40:
Lool. In what world and what profession have you seen employees and employers of labor have the same cache and have or play by the same rules. Let's get real.

A player cannot have the same rights as the owner. That is not a sustainable system to run. In every walk of life there's a chain of command bro. DeRozan gets paid regardless so whether they inform him or not is immaterial. It's like the civil service when you sign up to a contract you can get traded. Unless you work a no trade clause somehow in your contract like it's done in other sports

Basketballers only enjoy the luxury of the fact that they're fewer guys on the court so 1 player can hold a franchise by the balls. The next CBA would be very interesting. Understand that owners can shut the league down. They don't rely on day to day money like the players do. They have other sources of income

When the skillset you have makes you 1 of 5 or so in the whole world, then you have as much leverage as you are willing to push for and that is a fact. The scarcer the skillset the more power the owner of said skillset becomes.

PS: As for the owners shutting the league down, ask them what happened the last time they tried it, during the last, lock out. In case you didn’t follow the situation, most of the big Euroleague and Chinese teams offered the big name players very good contracts to come over and play for them. that situation in essence was the beginning of the power shift in the NBA, because the big named players who drive the ratings realized that money wise they could get comparable earnings at least for a few months in Europe.

Khanben:
When the skillset you have makes you 1 of 5 or so in the whole world, then you have as much leverage as you are willing to push for and that is a fact. The scarcer the skillset the more power the owner of said skillset becomes.

PS: As for the owners shutting the league down, ask them what happened the last time they tried it, during the last, lock out. In case you didn’t follow the situation, most of the big Euroleague and Chinese teams offered the big name players very good contracts to come over and play for them. that situation in essence was the beginning of the power shift in the NBA, because the big named players who drive the ratings realized that money wise they could get comparable earnings at least for a few months in Europe.

That lockout worked because players were decent, responsible and looked out for each other. Even hotheads kept their cool. Players were teaching players side hustles. This generation of players are fake internet teammates. . Look at the covid playins, with kyrie on purpose trying to come out against what the majority of players had already agreed to. When you have selfish players like Simmons, Kyrie, Harden etc, it is difficult to put up a united front. Hence the next lockout will not favor players as much.

No matter how skilled you are, unless you writing the checks, your bargaining power is limited. Having a united front will help, but I doubt that happens this time.

It really pisses me off to see how these cats hove ruined the hard work and sacrifice of the last lokcdown that led to a favorable CBA.

A40:
GP2 was a huge loss. His increased minutes was one of the little overlooked things that turned the series in the Warriors favor. Especially his performance in Game 5

He does so many things that don't show up in the stats sheet. That was the one guy the Warriors had to find a way to keep

GP2 is a defensive Savant. Better than Gra Gra Pat bev and Marcus Smart in my books. He was more instrumental to the warriors winning this Title than even Jordan Poole. The warriors went on huge runs with him on the court mainly because he shuts everyone down. With him on the court, Bostons offence came to a halt, forcing turnovers and giving the warriors points in transition.
When the game got tight, Kerr left Poole on the bench and brought him in.
I was real pissed when he signed with the blazers.

I am not in support of exchanging Britney Griner for a notorious arms dealer whose gun running activities was responsible for the killing of hundreds of American military personnel in the middle east. There are consequences to every action and this exchange is not fair or balanced if Biden chooses to pursue it.

Britney should have known better than to travel to Russia, a country that has bad relationship with the US with a contraband. Every country has it own rules, it is the responsibility of foreigners to respect and abide by established laws. This is the ridiculous sense of entitlement the extreme left have and I am disappointed anyone is remotely supporting this exchange.

She should face the consequences if we can not find another means that does not involve exchanging prisoners who will place American interests at risk.

Khanben:
When the skillset you have makes you 1 of 5 or so in the whole world, then you have as much leverage as you are willing to push for and that is a fact. The scarcer the skillset the more power the owner of said skillset becomes.

PS: As for the owners shutting the league down, ask them what happened the last time they tried it, during the last, lock out. In case you didn’t follow the situation, most of the big Euroleague and Chinese teams offered the big name players very good contracts to come over and play for them. that situation in essence was the beginning of the power shift in the NBA, because the big named players who drive the ratings realized that money wise they could get comparable earnings at least for a few months in Europe.

Lol. Nothing like leverage when you're under a 4 year deal. If you want leverage you sign a 2 year or 1 year deal. Also the guys that wield such power are less than 2% of the league. Bear in mind that even the Nets now are not obliged to respond to KD's request. They could tell him see you at training camp. And na there conversation go end

Lmaoo. You think Euroleague and China can afford to give 9 figure contracts?? Better wake up. Everything is swimmingly because there's enough money in the pot to go round but if there's a lockout the players would be much much harder hit than the owners. You think Stan Kroenke, Steve Ballmer, Joe Tsai rely on NBA money? Don't be funny bro

Skrrrrrrr:
GP2 is a defensive Savant. Better than Gra Gra Pat bev and Marcus Smart in my books. He was more instrumental to the warriors winning this Title than even Jordan Poole. The warriors went on huge runs with him on the court mainly because he shuts everyone down. With him on the court, Bostons offence came to a halt, forcing turnovers and giving the warriors points in transition.
When the game got tight, Kerr left Poole on the bench and brought him in.
I was real pissed when he signed with the blazers.

The Warriors better hope Kuminga develops properly because they gave away really their best perimeter defender. He did all the little dirty jobs on the court and covered up for guys like Steph and Poole. He's a significant miss

Roland17:
I am not in support of exchanging Britney Griner for a notorious arms dealer whose gun running activities was responsible for the killing of hundreds of American military personnel in the middle east. There are consequences to every action and this exchange is not fair or balanced if Biden chooses to pursue it.

Britney should have known better than to travel to Russia, a country that has bad relationship with the US with a contraband. Every country has it own rules, it is the responsibility of foreigners to respect and abide by established laws. This is the ridiculous sense of entitlement the extreme left have and I am disappointed anyone is remotely supporting this exchange.

She should face the consequences if we can not find another means that does not involve exchanging prisoners who will place American interests at risk.

The left are really a plague at this point. They will certainly run your country to the ground with their nonsense agenda that has permeated pretty much every sphere of life.

It's this foolishness and American exceptionalism that will make a Britney Griner go to another country and deliberately break the law. Then you have idi0ts come online and say rubbish like If it was Lebron he would be free by now.

I don't know why they always use BM for their dumb examples and agenda especially a BM that has not as much as caught a speeding ticket.

This is someone that spewed all types of foolishness in the past and now you have the woke mob trying to shame people for her poor decisions

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The Drew League be getting more attention than the Warriors championship did

I can't help but think this may play out. Even in this case, you want to make everyone believe the offers are there, but just cannot be completed. And there's a high chance the other owners will support him. The pendulum is due to swing to the other side. The reign of the players may soon be coming to an end.

A40:
I strongly suspect that there is a silent deal between Joe Tsai and the other owners of the league to ensure that there would never be enough pieces for Brooklyn to agree to this trade. If KD is allowed to pull this off then a dangerous precedent has been set. Contracts would be as useful as toilet paper

benji93:
I can't help but think this may play out. Even in this case, you want to make everyone believe the offers are there, but just cannot be completed. And there's a high chance the other owners will support him. The pendulum is due to swing to the other side. The reign of the players may soon be coming to an end.

The owners have to support him on this one. Or a bad precedent has been set. The funny thing for me is that the two teams that can give Brooklyn what they want would be OKC and Golden State