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Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by PurpleHouse(m): 5:51pm On Oct 01, 2022
I am currently still wondering why Putin is holding his restraints and not going all bazooka on Ukraine. I mean, its beginning to piss me off. You know NATO armies have already taken over Ukrainian via proxy, you know USA is actively involved in the war, you know Europe is against you and want to defeat you, yet he is fighting the battle slughishly.

I'm pissed. Defeat these people once and for all man. Send a strong message. Except maybe he is delaying deliberately which I believe, there is no need to pity Ukraine anymore or invite them to the negotiation table. NATO will not allow that. They want the war to go on so Russia can exust all her armored resources.

Putin should at this stage target all active centres where Ukraine have the edge. Theor storehouse of weapons, their camps, their decision making centres, for goodness sake bomb them oga. Use satellite wey you get end this war on a snappy before you drain your resources.

Ukrain are feeling like they can win but na putin just dey fall hand dey pity them. Ise those weapons you are yet to use. These guys want your country weekend and eventually destroyed. Stop delaying and waiting for Zelensky to come forward to negotiate. Person wey dey find how to squeeze himself enter NATO.

Putin is falling my hands with all these pity.

Na why I like Medvedev be this.

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Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by God1000(m): 5:52pm On Oct 01, 2022
You are not serious, he has already done his worst

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Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by Nobody: 5:53pm On Oct 01, 2022
Because he have no other option
Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by VeryWickedGoat: 6:05pm On Oct 01, 2022
Because they share same blood.


In 50 years it will be impossible for Biafra or Oduduwa to fight North alone because of inter-marriages.
You cannot stand and watch your mother's family massacred.

That's why I always laugh at the people mocking Biafra.

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Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by kris(m): 7:07pm On Oct 01, 2022
lol

You should travel to Russia go advice Putin. He's not as smart as you. The only edge he has over Ukraine right now is just Nuclear weapons, but our beloved USA go show am pepper if he uses it.

If you're boxing someone, and they want to use a gun in a fist fight, that's because they are losing. So the nuclear talk is because the Russian conventional weapons cannot match the west's.

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Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by rottennaija(m): 8:34pm On Oct 01, 2022
PurpleHouse:
I am currently still wondering why Putin is holding his restraints and not going all bazooka on Ukraine. I mean, its beginning to piss me off. You know NATO armies have already taken over Ukrainian via proxy, you know USA is actively involved in the war, you know Europe is against you and want to defeat you, yet he is fighting the battle slughishly.

I'm pissed. Defeat these people once and for all man. Send a strong message. Except maybe he is delaying deliberately which I believe, there is no need to pity Ukraine anymore or invite them to the negotiation table. NATO will not allow that. They want the war to go on so Russia can exust all her armored resources.

Putin should at this stage target all active centres where Ukraine have the edge. Theor storehouse of weapons, their camps, their decision making centres, for goodness sake bomb them oga. Use satellite wey you get end this war on a snappy before you drain your resources.

Ukrain are feeling like they can win but na putin just dey fall hand dey pity them. Ise those weapons you are yet to use. These guys want your country weekend and eventually destroyed. Stop delaying and waiting for Zelensky to come forward to negotiate. Person wey dey find how to squeeze himself enter NATO.

Putin is falling my hands with all these pity.

Na why I like Medvedev be this.

The SMO is covered by legislation. There is little they can do with it in terms of forces dedicated to it, places targeted, who can be tatgeted etc . You need to understand, Russia Isn't USA. They don't play dirty. They follow their laws to the letter.

To declare full war, they need to complete the process that has already started. When these regions are incorporated into Russia (that's when the state Duma accepts and ratifies the referendums), they can unleash the full weight of Russian military on them.

They are working on it, moving military equipments, defense, troops and preparing reserves for these while the legislation is in process.

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Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by sunboy(m): 8:49pm On Oct 01, 2022
kris:
lol

You should travel to Russia go advice Putin. He's not as smart as you. The only edge he has over Ukraine right now is just Nuclear weapons, but our beloved USA go show am pepper if he uses it.

If you're boxing someone, and they want to use a gun in a fist fight, that's because they are losing. So the nuclear talk is because the Russian conventional weapons cannot match the west's.

Sorry to disappoint you but if nuclear is used in Ukraine, the US will not do anything directly. Highest, make Russia look like North Korea ie blocked completely from the whole world. That’s the highest that can be done.
Listen well and good; the USA or NATO will not go to war with Russia because of Ukraine, that war will happen only if Russia hit the US homeland or Allies directly.

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Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by A305: 8:53pm On Oct 01, 2022
Putin acknowledges the U.S. machineries are the once fighting in Ukraine.

The US goal is to prolong the war to drain Russia of their war machine and deplete their soldiers but Putin is after his already outlined objectives: 1 - Annexation of the Donbass, Kherson and Zherborizhie. 2. Keep Ukraine out of joining NATO.

From the general look of event so far, Is Putin achieving his aim? YES!

The Donbass area, Kherson & Zherborizhie are now annexed and part of mother Russia. And in show of spite, Zelensky signed and submitted a bid to join Nato, however the bid is being deliberated because it's a bad idea for nato to accept Ukraine, this would easily lead to WW3. So again is Putin succeeding? Yes.

This collective West not recognizing the newly annexed territory as part of Russia is their problem and RUSSIA DON'T CARE — As time goes on, Russia allies and trade partners will recognize Donbass as part of Russia.

So where do we go from here.

Putin mobilization of 300,000 men (which will be more than 300,000 if the chen chen men, private machinery and soldiers from newly newly annexed donbass joins) would be an escalation because Donbass is considered Russia's territory and Putin warmed that Russia would use any weapon to protect Russia and he ended with "....this is not a bluff."

He didn't mention nuclear weapons but this is the real fear of the west after the fear of losing hegemony which they already lost now that the world is currently turning multi-polar rule based other thanks to Putin.

Back to your question, why can't Putin just take his glove off and deal with Ukraine messilessly.

The answer is; there will too much civilian casualties that even Putin allies would resent him for giving such brutal order, Putin doesn't want to be that guy but the U.S keeps pushing him. He isn't taking the bait just yet (exept Russia security is threatened), however, he also has a plan, which I believe is to let Europe economy plunder, the U.S. will run out of weapons and aid to send to Ukraine and then they will tell Zelensky to begin Negotiation with Putin.

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Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by PurpleHouse(m): 8:59pm On Oct 01, 2022
rottennaija:


The SMO is covered by legislation. There is little they can do with it in terms of forces dedicated to it, places targeted, who can be tatgeted etc . You need to understand, Russia Isn't USA. They don't play dirty. They follow their laws to the letter.

To declare full war, they need to complete the process that has already started. When these regions are incorporated into Russia (that's when the state Duma accepts and ratifies the referendums), they can unleash the full weight of Russian military on them.

They are working on it, moving military equipments, defense, troops and preparing reserves for these while the legislation is in process.

I gets this clearly now. I hope it is exactly as you pointed out. Because this might just lead to their embarrassment of they keep playing the pity game on Ukraine.
Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by PurpleHouse(m): 9:10pm On Oct 01, 2022
A305:
Putin acknowledges the U.S. machineries are the once fighting in Ukraine.

The US goal is to prolong the war to drain Russia of their war machine and deplete their soldiers but Putin is after his already outlined objectives: 1 - Annexation of the Donbass, Kherson and Zherborizhie. 2. Keep Ukraine out of joining NATO.

From the general look of event so far, Is Putin achieving his aim? YES!

The Donbass area, Kherson & Zherborizhie are now annexed and part of mother Russia. And in show of spite, Zelensky signed and submitted a bid to join Nato, however the bid is being deliberated because it's a bad idea for nato to accept Ukraine, this would easily lead to WW3. So again is Putin succeeding? Yes.

This collective West not recognizing the newly annexed territory as part of Russia is their problem and RUSSIA DON'T CARE — As time goes on, Russia allies and trade partners will recognize Donbass as part of Russia.

So where do we go from here.

Putin mobilization of 300,000 men (which will be more than 300,000 if the chen chen men, private machinery and soldiers from newly newly annexed donbass joins) would be an escalation because Donbass is considered Russia's territory and Putin warmed that Russia would use any weapon to protect Russia and he ended with "....this is not a bluff."

He didn't mention nuclear weapons but this is the real fear of the west after the fear of losing hegemony which they already lost now that the world is currently turning multi-polar rule based other thanks to Putin.

Back to your question, why can't Putin just take his glove off and deal with Ukraine messilessly.

The answer is; there will too much civilian casualties that even Putin allies would resent him for giving such brutal order, Putin doesn't want to be that guy but the U.S keeps pushing him. He isn't taking the bait just yet (exept Russia security is threatened), however, he also has a plan, which I believe is to let Europe economy plunder, the U.S. will run out of weapons and aid to send to Ukraine and then they will tell Zelensky to begin Negotiation with Putin.


I fancy everything you said. But you see that last line, naaaah. We both know that USA will never allow uncle Z to negotiate with Russia. And it is not possible for USA to run out of weapons or aids nau. They're not world power for nothing. That is out of it. They will ensure they prolong this war for as long as possible.

Then again. It will be to the loss of the West, as prolong war in europe is bad market for their economy.

And this brings me to another angle, or another question rather:

What manner of fear or respect or loyalty does the west have for USA that they cannot do anything until USA gives them order? Why is USA arm twisting them to reject everything russia against their own benefit? What are they actually scared of? USA say do this, they do; don't do that, they won't. It's annoying.
Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by WATCHOVER(m): 10:02pm On Oct 01, 2022
kris:
lol

You should travel to Russia go advice Putin. He's not as smart as you. The only edge he has over Ukraine right now is just Nuclear weapons, but our beloved USA go show am pepper if he uses it.

If you're boxing someone, and they want to use a gun in a fist fight, that's because they are losing. So the nuclear talk is because the Russian conventional weapons cannot match the west's.
Most of you are just emotional over nothing, sorry to say if only you people understood what Putin is aiming at you will know that Ukraine is just a toy.
Mind you Great Britain has just gone down, United States is also following suit.

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Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by rottennaija(m): 10:13pm On Oct 01, 2022
PurpleHouse:


I gets this clearly now. I hope it is exactly as you pointed out. Because this might just lead to their embarrassment of they keep playing the pity game on Ukraine.

Every country gets embarrassed in war. Even the US though they have a good way of hiding it. Russia fights many wars, gets embarrassed, adapts and win. Ukraine will not survive at the end.
Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by kmaster007: 10:33pm On Oct 01, 2022
Russian dey fear NATO
Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by joyandfaith: 2:00am On Oct 02, 2022
rottennaija:


Every country gets embarrassed in war. Even the US though they have a good way of hiding it. Russia fights many wars, gets embarrassed, adapts and win. Ukraine will[b][/b] not survive at the end.
You are so sure!!!!
Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by ken6488(m): 2:01am On Oct 02, 2022
PurpleHouse:
I am currently still wondering why Putin is holding his restraints and not going all bazooka on Ukraine. I mean, its beginning to piss me off. You know NATO armies have already taken over Ukrainian via proxy, you know USA is actively involved in the war, you know Europe is against you and want to defeat you, yet he is fighting the battle slughishly.

I'm pissed. Defeat these people once and for all man. Send a strong message. Except maybe he is delaying deliberately which I believe, there is no need to pity Ukraine anymore or invite them to the negotiation table. NATO will not allow that. They want the war to go on so Russia can exust all her armored resources.

Putin should at this stage target all active centres where Ukraine have the edge. Theor storehouse of weapons, their camps, their decision making centres, for goodness sake bomb them oga. Use satellite wey you get end this war on a snappy before you drain your resources.

Ukrain are feeling like they can win but na putin just dey fall hand dey pity them. Ise those weapons you are yet to use. These guys want your country weekend and eventually destroyed. Stop delaying and waiting for Zelensky to come forward to negotiate. Person wey dey find how to squeeze himself enter NATO.

Putin is falling my hands with all these pity.

Na why I like Medvedev be this.
I am getting annoyed too

Russia Is capable of firing 1000 missles at Ukraine capital but they never do

Going back and front
Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by kris(m): 2:11am On Oct 02, 2022
That's what you think. That's not what I think, and that's not what the US is saying. They will strike wherever the nuclear bomb is launched from, is what they said.

Let Russia use nuclear weapon then we will see. We go show Russia say we no be mate.


sunboy:


Sorry to disappoint you but if nuclear is used in Ukraine, the US will not do anything directly. Highest, make Russia look like North Korea ie blocked completely from the whole world. That’s the highest that can be done.
Listen well and good; the USA or NATO will not go to war with Russia because of Ukraine, that war will happen only if Russia his the US homeland or Allies directly.
Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by kris(m): 2:13am On Oct 02, 2022
Maybe they are just not as smart as you, or they don't think firing 1000 missiles will get the job done. Think about it.

ken6488:
I am getting annoyed too

Russia Is capable of firing 1000 missles at Ukraine capital but they never do

Going back and front
Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by kris(m): 2:18am On Oct 02, 2022
For your eyes Putin is very smart and knows what he's doing. We will smack him down, make him try nonsense.

Before our economy will go down like that, Russia go don suffer well well. Russian go don kill Putin.

WATCHOVER:

Most of you are just emotional over nothing, sorry to say if only you people understood what Putin is aiming at you will know that Ukraine is just a toy.
Mind you Great Britain has just gone down, United States is also following suit.
Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by sunboy(m): 2:27am On Oct 02, 2022
kris:
That's what you think. That's not what I think, and that's not what the US is saying. They will strike wherever the nuclear bomb is launched from, is what they said.

Let Russia use nuclear weapon then we will see. We go show Russia say we no be mate.



Ogbeni, Nobody here wants any war. Sit down and be thinking America or Americans want any war. I repeat, as long as Russia is only hitting Ukraine nobody is going to return any strike.

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Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by leofab(f): 8:24am On Oct 02, 2022
rottennaija:


The SMO is covered by legislation. There is little they can do with it in terms of forces dedicated to it, places targeted, who can be tatgeted etc . You need to understand, Russia Isn't USA. They don't play dirty. They follow their laws to the letter.

To declare full war, they need to complete the process that has already started. When these regions are incorporated into Russia (that's when the state Duma accepts and ratifies the referendums), they can unleash the full weight of Russian military on them.

They are working on it, moving military equipments, defense, troops and preparing reserves for these while the legislation is in process.
you are a kid.. Russia has used everything in their arsenal.. the only thing left is nuclear armaments… but nuking ukraine wil have direct effect on Russia itself.. only a fool will nine their neighbor..

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Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by rottennaija(m): 8:29am On Oct 02, 2022
leofab:
you are a kid.. Russia has used everything in their arsenal.. the only thing left is nuclear armaments… but nuking ukraine wil have direct effect on Russia itself.. only a fool will nine their neighbor..

You should learn how to argue without resorting to insult. If you disagree with my post, counter it with a valid argument. All these insult shows you to have limited mental capacity to argue.

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Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by Toktee(m): 8:45am On Oct 02, 2022
PurpleHouse:
I am currently still wondering why Putin is holding his restraints and not going all bazooka on Ukraine. I mean, its beginning to piss me off. You know NATO armies have already taken over Ukrainian via proxy, you know USA is actively involved in the war, you know Europe is against you and want to defeat you, yet he is fighting the battle slughishly.

I'm pissed. Defeat these people once and for all man. Send a strong message. Except maybe he is delaying deliberately which I believe, there is no need to pity Ukraine anymore or invite them to the negotiation table. NATO will not allow that. They want the war to go on so Russia can exust all her armored resources.

Putin should at this stage target all active centres where Ukraine have the edge. Theor storehouse of weapons, their camps, their decision making centres, for goodness sake bomb them oga. Use satellite wey you get end this war on a snappy before you drain your resources.

Ukrain are feeling like they can win but na putin just dey fall hand dey pity them. Ise those weapons you are yet to use. These guys want your country weekend and eventually destroyed. Stop delaying and waiting for Zelensky to come forward to negotiate. Person wey dey find how to squeeze himself enter NATO.

Putin is falling my hands with all these pity.

Na why I like Medvedev be this.
Your overrated Putin have done all he can do, now is Ukraine turn.

His crying boy Scouts cannot do anything anymore.

Do you know how many of them surrendered in Lyman?

Putin cannot win this war.
Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by Toktee(m): 8:52am On Oct 02, 2022
rottennaija:


The SMO is covered by legislation. There is little they can do with it in terms of forces dedicated to it, places targeted, who can be tatgeted etc . You need to understand, Russia Isn't USA. They don't play dirty. They follow their laws to the letter.

To declare full war, they need to complete the process that has already started. When these regions are incorporated into Russia (that's when the state Duma accepts and ratifies the referendums), they can unleash the full weight of Russian military on them.

They are working on it, moving military equipments, defense, troops and preparing reserves for these while the legislation is in process.
Get out, what do you mean Russia don't play dirty?
Russia invade Finland, Georgia, Chechnya,Moldova, Kalingrade, Ukraine etc.
Russia massacre thousands in Buchanan, irpin, izyum, Muriopol, etc... What's your definition of play dirty?
In all the country invaded by Russia they steal or grabbed land.
In Ukraine they are stealing land, agricultural products, iron in muriopol etc, even nuclear plant.

You know nothing about Russia.

Now tell me where US grab land and national assets?

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Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by rottennaija(m): 8:56am On Oct 02, 2022
Toktee:
Get out, what do you mean Russia don't play dirty?
Russia invade Finland, Georgia, Chechnya,Moldova, Kalingrade, Ukraine etc.
Russia massacre thousands in Buchanan, irpin, izyum, Muriopol, etc... What's your definition of play dirty?
In all the country invaded by Russia they steal or grabbed land.
In Ukraine they are stealing land, agricultural products, iron in muriopol etc, even nuclear plant.

You know nothing about Russia.

Now tell me where US grab land and national assets?
undecided
Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by ken6488(m): 10:17am On Oct 02, 2022
kris:
Maybe they are just not as smart as you, or they don't think firing 1000 missiles will get the job done. Think about it.

it is a show of force
Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by kris(m): 3:59pm On Oct 02, 2022
They have shown force in many instances.
ken6488:
it is a show of force
Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by kris(m): 4:03pm On Oct 02, 2022
Then you don't know America if you think that they will let Russia use nuclear weapon on Ukraine and not do anything about it.
sunboy:


Ogbeni, Nobody here wants any war. Sit down and be thinking America or Americans want any war. I repeat, as long as Russia is only hitting Ukraine nobody is going to return any strike.
Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by babyboy4every1: 5:33pm On Oct 02, 2022
kmaster007:
Russian dey fear NATO
NATO dey fear Russia too
Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by texazzpete(m): 7:01pm On Oct 02, 2022
Only the most gullible Putin fanboys believe the nonsense that Russia hasn’t been trying their best.


Why do you people think they’re desperately mobilizing ?

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Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by sunboy(m): 7:17pm On Oct 02, 2022
kris:
Then you don't know America if you think that they will let Russia use nuclear weapon on Ukraine and not do anything about it.

The same America that I live abi another one lol grin

Jokes on you bro
Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by Firstcitizen: 7:44pm On Oct 02, 2022
ken6488:
I am getting annoyed too

Russia Is capable of firing 1000 missles at Ukraine capital but they never do

Going back and front

Bro there is a behind the scene agreement with Turkey not to target Kiev at this stage of the war. If Russia destroys the seat of power it will lead to a power vacuum that will reflect the Afghanistan situation where they keep pumping in money to maintain stability in a failed state. Terrorism and black market sale of Ukrainian weapons will endanger Europe including Russia. Don't forget that Ukraine has nuclear plants and if targeted by terrorists later it will get to the whole region. Russia is only interested in a land bridge with Crimea which they now have and Ukraine's most mineral rich territory.

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Re: Why Is Putin Showing Ukraine Too Much Sympathy? by ken6488(m): 7:46pm On Oct 02, 2022
Firstcitizen:


Bro there is a behind the scene agreement with Turkey not to target Kiev at this stage of the war. If Russia destroys the seat of power it will lead to a power vacuum that will reflect the Afghanistan situation where they keep pumping in money to maintain stability in a failed state. Terrorism and black market sale of Ukrainian weapons will endanger Europe including Russia.
exactly and will further stress Russia military

Russia is avoiding that

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