Kobojunkie:
1. You haven't been paying attention since the beginning of this conversation have you because this response of yours here reveals you have been arguing blindly.

Marriage Abandonments, which were condoned by your ancestors, and excused by you as simply an approach to the resolution of disputes, went and still go largely unreported and recorded as divorce. Your claims up till now that the divorce rate(official) is higher today than it was back say 80 years ago is not itself based on fact but based on a shift in your reasoning that the reality of abandonment is indeed no different from divorce. Again, the official Divorce rate, remains at the same rate, less than 1%, which is the same as it was back about 40 years ago, so what has changed? Nothing, except now you perceive the culture of marriage abandonment for what it is, divorce.

2. Go back to my statement and read with your eyes wide open. The story I told was of Nigeria in the 80s when the population was less than 25% of what it is today. Those divorces mentioned were not official but abandonments. Compare the differences in population counts and you will maybe wise up to the reason why it has gotten harder to ignore the issue of marriage abandonment and now see it for what it is which is divorce.

3. Am I to assume at this point that you also failed mathematics in secondary school or something? Aren't you the very same person who pointed out in #1 above that the information I posted indicated that the official divorce rate remains below 1% in Nigeria?

Essentially, you have been trying to talk out of both sides of your mouth here — claiming marriage abandonment is not the same as divorce yet at the same time acknowledging that the high marriage abandonment rate you observe today in the Nigerian society is nothing but divorce, though the practice goes on unreported. You need to sort this thing out with your psyche there.

Abandonment everywhere in your post.

Conceptually, you mixing stuff up or you are rather playing with words

Abandonment can be liking to separation......and this is not peculiar to Nigeria alone.....even in the west you adore so much....there are separation between couples...and it is different from divorce.

But then, if you referring to a husband leaving his family to start another one........it is also not peculiar to Nigeria as a country or to man/husband alone......

It is not a culturally orientated approach to peace of mind....it is human instinct to opt or explore for a better option and choice.

Nonetheless, divorces is actually a problem in the marriage institution....but instead of seeking for solutions to make marriages last...as humanity evolves....we rather recommend solutions that would rather promote the problem.......aren't you concern?

The lawful approach to divorce most often creates resentment between people that are suppose to work together..... partners are in each other's throats.....in the name of settlement and benefits.....

brain54:
:-XYou stubborn die…
Like I said if I keep arguing with you we go end up for global warming.
Nigeria is sub divided into six geo political zones. Plateau is middle belt.
True to God. I am tired of arguing with you already.
You cute o!!

You aren't able to refute any of my claims means I am stubborn? Why is it so hard to admit your argument was indeed flawed from its beginning in this?

brain54:

So you are in the “middle “?

any-how

kazyhm:


I have this opinion that.... social media is very bad; it allowed us to listen, discuss and deliberate with mediocres

First of all, the west is the African's problem......they won't even leave Africa alone, they forcefully, strategically and manipulatively gave almost all African's countries a bad system....for their own game..infact, they are subtly treating African like just a country stead of a continent....and in the same vein influencing the caliber of leaders that get elected in Africa..... Africa has always been a specimen to the west.......they won't even teach you your own history........

Countries like India, Switzerland, Japan, china, Chile, Russian etc have their culture, beliefs and traditions......why must African adopt an expensive and cumbersome Democratic system of government to start with....a system that alien to your peculiarities...even in the west...they won't preach to Scottish men to stop wearing skirts....skirts are designed for women....but African must follow rules made by the west and for the western culture to expand...western marriage rite does not recognized bride price for example.....but then Africans are emulating equality in marriage....that is contradictory.

Divorce is not common within Chinese, japanese, indians, Indonesian communities living in the west because they strongly believed in their culture and traditions...and live within the confined of such.....but African are directionless, standardless and focusless.......

Bro!
I feel like giving you a hug!
I like your idea and I could not have put it in a better way.
If you were with me right now I would have bought you a bottle of wine. That na if you take achohol.

I like your thinking. Accurate!

Kobojunkie:
any-how

I understand you. No wonder your arguments.

kazyhm:
1. Abandonment everywhere in your post. Conceptually, you mixing stuff op or you rather to play with words. Abandonment can be liking to separation......and this is not peculiar to Nigeria alone.....even in the west you adore so much....there are separation between couples...and it is different from divorce.

2. The if you referring to a husband leaving his family to start another one........it is also not peculiar to Nigeria as a country or to man/husband alone...... It is not a culturally orientated approach to peace of mind....it is human instinct to opt or explore for a better option.

3. Besides, divorces is actually a problem in the marriage institution....but instead of seeking for solutions to make marriage last...as human evolves....we rather recommend solutions that rather promote the problem.... aren't you concern?

1. Abandonment can be like separation, you say. And how long is this separation meant to be for — 1 year, 2? 10? 20, life?

2. So what? This here is a discussion about marriage abandonment in Nigeria vs divorce in same Nigeria.

3. Divorce is a problem in the marriage institution... is marriage abandonment not equally a problem in the marriage institution?

Kobojunkie:
You aren't able to refute any of my claims means I am stubborn? Why is it so hard to admit your argument was indeed flawed from its beginning in this?

Your hydra headed claims…?

brain54:
Your hydra headed claims…?

Claims you were unable to argue against nor directly refute?

Kobojunkie:
Claims you were unable to argue against nor directly refute?

Lol…
I floored you effortlessly…if it was human it would have been considered rape. Your arguments were mostly out of points.

I just admire your stubbornness and resoluteness.

I only got tired of your hydra headed arguments. Besides you have a close mindset.

brain54:
Lol…
I floored you effortlessly…if it was human it would have been considered rape. Your arguments were mostly out of points.
I just admire your stubbornness and resoluteness. I only got tired of your hydra headed arguments. Besides you have a close mindset.

Even the legal has almost caught up to this problem. https://www.nairaland.com/7492801/abandon-spouse-go-jail-three#119359476

Kobojunkie:
1. Abandonment can be like separation, you say. And how long is this separation meant to be for — 1 year, 2? 10? 20, life?

2. So what? This here is a discussion about marriage abandonment in Nigeria vs divorce in same Nigeria.

3. Divorce is a problem in the marriage institution... is marriage abandonment not equally a problem in the marriage institution?

Separation can last a million years...as the couple deem fit...and it remains separation as far as none of the party moves for divorce.

Abandonment as you prefer to use.....is not a problem per say...but an avenue for review, rethink, deliberation, negotiation and evaluation....due to the one of the advantages of African system that recognizes family values, extended family inclusion, family unity, family name protection.......most couples that get separated oftentimes reunite.

But you woke generation and westerner wanna be have destroyed everything that kept African together.....just to embrace white skin people's agenda...... inferiority synonymous to African.

kazyhm:
1. Separation can last a million years...as the couple deem fit...and it remains separation as far as none of the party moves for divorce.

2. Abandonment as you prefer to use.....is not a problem per say...but an avenue for review, rethink, deliberation, negotiation and evaluation....due to the one of the advantages of African system that recognizes family values, extended family inclusion, family unity, family name protection.......most couples that get separated oftentimes reunite.

3. But you woke generation and western wanna be have destroyed everything that kept African together.....just to embrace white skin people's agenda...... inferiority synonymous to African.

1. WOW!
2. CHEEZUSSSSS!
3. Aye!!

Well, just so you know, the Law has declared marriage abandonment, which it admits is typical in Nigeria, a criminal offense!
https://www.nairaland.com/7492801/abandon-spouse-go-jail-three#119359476

Kobojunkie:
You mean the 75% official divorce rate is different from the almost 75% marriage abandonment rate in Nigeria which goes largely undocumented given that it remains a thing of shame for the victims in all of those cases?

How do you know it is almost 75% if it is largely undocumented?
Or are you just pulling that stat out of your A** just to make a point?

odinson1:
How do you know it is almost 75% if it is largely undocumented?
Or are you just pulling that stat out of your A** just to make a point?

The 75% mention was in response to the other who claimed divorce rates in other climes were at about 75% probably on grounds that the official divorce rate in Nigeria is recorded even to date to be at less than 1%. Considering the rate of abandonments in Nigeria mirrors divorce rates in other climes, to the point that it is now considered a criminal act in Nigeria, we can pretty much understand the rate is quite high in Nigeria so much so that it causes that much concern.

Kobojunkie:
1. WOW!
2. CHEEZUSSSSS!
3. Aye!!

Well, just so you know? The Law has declared marriage abandonment, which it admits is typical in Nigeria, a criminal offense!
https://www.nairaland.com/7492801/abandon-spouse-go-jail-three#119359476

Yeah.... that's an importation.... African are more advanced and sophisticated that the application of law and legislation on people that at one time consciously and delibrately decided to be with one another.....the law does not recognized them before the decision......why will you use law to prevail on adults in this context..? but then, there is freedom of association recognized by the same law......i

kazyhm:
Yeah.... that's an importation.... African are more advanced and sophisticated that the application of law and legislation on people that at one time consciously and delibrately decided to be with one another.....the law does not recognized them before the decision......why will you use law to prevail on adults in this context..? but then, there is freedom of association recognized by the same law......i

So, it means nothing to you that the many children abandoned in these situations are left handicapped in society by these criminal acts?

Kobojunkie:
The 75% mention was in response to the other who claimed divorce rates in other climes were at about 75% probably on grounds that the official divorce rate in Nigeria is recorded even to date to be at less than 1%. Considering the rate of abandonments in Nigeria mirrors divorce rates in other climes, to the point that it is now considered a criminal act in Nigeria, we can pretty much understand the rate is quite high in Nigeria so much so that it causes that much concern.

What is the rate of abandonments in Nigeria?

odinson1:
What is the rate of abandonments in Nigeria?

It is high enough that your government has decided it is a criminal offense.

Kobojunkie:
So, it means nothing to you that the many children abandoned in these situations are left handicapped in society by these criminal acts?

If the law cares about the children, one or both of the couple won't ended up in jail as it happens in the west.

Why will separation be criminalized?

kazyhm:
If the law cares about the children, one or both of the couple won't ended up in jail as it happens in the west. Why will separation be criminalized?

How convenient for you then?

Kobojunkie:
It is high enough that your government has decided it is a criminal offense.

You still haven't given a figure
You're always jumping in on every thread to argue, next time come in with facts and stats.

And a question for you,are you male or female?

odinson1:
You still haven't given a figure You're always jumping in on every thread to argue, next time come in with facts and stats. And a question for you,are you male or female?

Have you given me a figure to refute for you to feel I owe you a figure of some sort?

Kobojunkie:
So, you mean the 25% official divorce rate is different from the almost 25% marriage abandonment rate in Nigeria which goes largely undocumented given that it remains a thing of shame for the victims in all of those cases?

No, I mean that it is thesame here

Jimmythewise:
No, I mean that it is thesame here

Here where?

Kobojunkie:
Here where?

Nigeria

Jimmythewise:
Nigeria

Ok, so you are you admitting that spousal or marriage abandonment rate in Nigeria pretty much mirrors divorce rates in much of the western world?

Kobojunkie:
Ok, so you are you admitting that spousal or marriage abandonment rate in Nigeria pretty much mirrors divorce rates in much of the western world?

Bro are you high?

Jimmythewise:
Bro are you high?

I am attempting here to understand your response.

Are you telling me that that spousal or marriage abandonment rate in Nigeria pretty much mirrors divorce rates in much of the western world?

Kobojunkie:
I am attempting here to understand your response.

Are you telling me that that spousal or marriage abandonment rate in Nigeria pretty much mirrors divorce rates in much of the western world?

I'm telling you that divorce or marriage abandonment is at a 25% rate here as compared to 75% rate in the western world.

Jimmythewise:
I'm telling you that divorce or marriage abandonment is at a 25% rate here as compared to 75% rate in the western world.

ROFLMAO


Nigerians ehn! So, basically, you insist it is much lower than even that observed in the 80s in parts of Nigeria?

Kobojunkie:
ROFLMAO


Nigerians ehn! So, basically, you insist it is much lower than even that observed in the 80s in parts of Nigeria?

Are you a teenager?

Solofresh2:
How can you have different opinions and ideology with your partner and you are calling it marriage
I mean how do your marriage want to last long when you have a different opinion with your partner

Couples don't have differing opinions?