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Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by Justbehave(m): 8:34am On Jan 25, 2023
Op pls try and settle with your nephew. Everything no be fight. Mod take this to front page let's learn
Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by ExudeLoveToAll: 8:36am On Jan 25, 2023
07kjb:


All children have equal rights is in YOUR TRIBE NOT IN ALA IGBO

First born will always have the OBI
WOMEN HAS NO INHERITANCE they should go to their husbands house


Even courts in Igbo land won't rule otherwise


You are just exhibiting your ignorance on public space..

I will help you.to cite the landmark supreme Court ruling that voided that tradition in IGBO land and else where all over the country.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/08/supreme-courts-decision-on-female-inheritance-divides-igbo/amp/

All children have equal rights to the properties of their parents wether make or female. The first child has same right as the other children.

You are still leaving in denial, supreme Court has ruled and so it shall it be. Nothing you do can avert that precedence.
Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by 07kjb: 8:42am On Jan 25, 2023
ExudeLoveToAll:



You are just exhibiting your ignorance on public space..

I will help you.to cite the landmark supreme Court ruling that voided that tradition in IGBO land and else where all over the country.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/08/supreme-courts-decision-on-female-inheritance-divides-igbo/amp/

All children have equal rights to the properties of their parents wether make or female. The first child has same right as the other children.

You are still leaving in denial, supreme Court has ruled and so it shall it be. Nothing you do can avert that precedence.

I am telling you what is on ground not what is on paper

A woman has no right of inheritance in Igbo land...go and make an investigative enquiry
Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by ExudeLoveToAll: 8:49am On Jan 25, 2023
07kjb:


I am telling you what is on ground not what is on paper

A woman has no right of inheritance in Igbo land...go and make an investigative enquiry

It is only a woman who doesn't know her left from her right that would allow her male siblings cheat her out.

If she takes the matter to court she must win
Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by 07kjb: 9:00am On Jan 25, 2023
ExudeLoveToAll:


It is only a woman who doesn't know her left from her right that would allow her male siblings cheat her out.

If she takes the matter to court she must win

I can see you are a woman activist

Go and get any case of such in Igbo land I assure you that you are gonna lose it in court
Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by Lance008(m): 9:02am On Jan 25, 2023
If Everything for Dey work for this country well I for advice you make u tell police
That's stealing
Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by JONNYSPUTE(m): 9:12am On Jan 25, 2023
ExudeLoveToAll:



You are just exhibiting your ignorance on public space..

I will help you.to cite the landmark supreme Court ruling that voided that tradition in IGBO land and else where all over the country.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/08/supreme-courts-decision-on-female-inheritance-divides-igbo/amp/

All children have equal rights to the properties of their parents wether make or female. The first child has same right as the other children.

You are still leaving in denial, supreme Court has ruled and so it shall it be. Nothing you do can avert that precedence.
...... I have been following your arguments and I must say that you are right but where you are getting it wrong is on the issue of the Obi.

No two people inherits an Obi in Igbo land. But that the first son has it does not give him any right to eject others from it until they are able to acquire theirs

The supreme court is also right in a way. Why I used in a way here is because they have helped in solving the problems whereby a wealthy man passed on without a male child and his brothers comes to take over his properties siting the issue that he has no male child.

Another one is a situation whereby a wealthy man dies and his sons greedily wants to deny the daughters of their shares in their father's estate or properties. Note here that estates does not include the late man's ancental home.( That is a no go area for the female) except on circumstances that the late man was an only child and failed to have a surviving son which automatically makes the only daughter to inherit it but on the condition that she will remain unmarried but have to bear children to sustain her father's legacy. Note also that if at anytime she decides to get married after producing an heir,that her son takes over the Obi while she looses because she cannot be answering another man's name and be claiming ownership of her father's ancentral home.

Even before the supreme court judgment,lots of men has been giving out properties in the city to their female children if he has enough to go around. But if he doesn't,the children can sell and share the proceed as they deem ok.

As long as it is the man's ancentral home( OBI ),mbanu.not possible except for the condition I mentioned earlier.

Now bringing it back to our discussion here. Even the courts cannot tell op that he is the owner of the said house. They will only tell him that yes he has a right to live there because his father owns it which his nephew is not even denying him.

But the truth of the matter is that as an Igbo man that he is,if he does not leave to stay on his own Obi,when ever he dies,he can't be buried there. They will take him to his rightful abode and bury him there even if it's a forest.

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Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by ExudeLoveToAll: 9:16am On Jan 25, 2023
07kjb:


I can see you are a woman activist

Go and get any case of such in Igbo land I assure you that you are gonna lose it in court



I'm not a woman activist, I'm only commenting based on the information on ground today. I'm not delusional, I'm abreast with the latest happenings and not speaking out of emotions.


You are still taking this discussion backwards, I already sent you a link to an article on the supreme Court judgment, there is nothing to argue.

Have a great day
Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by lereinter(m): 9:29am On Jan 25, 2023
How old his the nephew

Is he married?

It's better you people settle it using 3rd party arbitration.

Call a family meeting because you are the head of the house, the property doesn't belong to his father

Sell the house, let him have his father's share appropriately.
Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by JONNYSPUTE(m): 9:33am On Jan 25, 2023
lereinter:


How old his the nephew

Is he married?

It's better you people settle it using 3rd party arbitration.

Call a family meeting because you are the head of the house, the property doesn't belong to his father

Sell the house, let him have his father's share appropriately.
.....Have you ever seen anybody selling ancentral home before?

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Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by ExudeLoveToAll: 9:33am On Jan 25, 2023
JONNYSPUTE:
...... I have been following your arguments and I must say that you are right but where you are getting it wrong is on the issue of the Obi.

No two people inherits an Obi in Igbo land. But that the first son has it does not give him any right to eject others from it until they are able to acquire theirs

The supreme court is also right in a way. Why I used in a way here is because they have helped in solving the problems whereby a wealthy man passed on without a male child and his brothers comes to take over his properties siting the issue that he has no male child.

Another one is a situation whereby a wealthy man dies and his sons greedily wants to deny the daughters of their shares in their father's estate or properties. Note here that estates does not include the late man's ancental home.( That is a no go area for the female) except on circumstances that the late man was an only child and failed to have a surviving son which automatically makes the only daughter to inherit it but on the condition that she will remain unmarried but have to bear children to sustain her father's legacy. Note also that if at anytime she decides to get married after producing an heir,that her son takes over the Obi while she looses because she cannot be answering another man's name and be claiming ownership of her father's ancentral home.

Even before the supreme court judgment,lots of men has been giving out properties in the city to their female children if he has enough to go around. But if he doesn't,the children can sell and share the proceed as they deem ok.

As long as it is the man's ancentral home( OBI ),mbanu.not possible except for the condition I mentioned earlier.

Now bringing it back to our discussion here. Even the courts cannot tell op that he is the owner of the said house. They will only tell him that yes he has a right to live there because his father owns it which his nephew is not even denying him.

But the truth of the matter is that as an Igbo man that he is,if he does not leave to stay on his own Obi,when ever he dies,he can't be buried there. They will take him to his rightful abode and bury him there even if it's a forest.


Expository, nice for sharing your thoughts.

That is the basis of my assertion, he has rights to the house just as his elder brother has rights to it( his part inherited by the nephew) and not as some assert that he has no right to the property(Supreme court has quashed that). That was why I brought up that precedence.

Have a great day

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Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by JONNYSPUTE(m): 9:36am On Jan 25, 2023
ExudeLoveToAll:


Expository, nice for sharing your thoughts.

That is the basis of my assertion, he has rights to the house just as his elder brother has rights to it( his part inherited by the nephew) and not as some assert that he has no right to the property(Supreme court has quashed that). That was why I brought up that precedence.

Have a great day
..... Remain blessed

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Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by lereinter(m): 10:20am On Jan 25, 2023
JONNYSPUTE:
.....Have seen anybody selling ancentral home before?

When express pass there you will know that nothing like ancestral

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Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by JONNYSPUTE(m): 10:27am On Jan 25, 2023
lereinter:


When express pass there you will know that nothing like ancestral
..... You are saying a different thing. If due to development it happens that a road should pass there,the government in collaboration with the owner will do all the necessary tradition and appeasement before relocating them.

My question still remains. Have you ever seen where such is sold and the money shared among the children? I know Igbos don't do such.

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Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by lereinter(m): 10:32am On Jan 25, 2023
JONNYSPUTE:
..... You are saying a different thing. If due to development it happens that a road should pass there,the government in collaboration with the owner will do all the necessary tradition and appeasement before relocating them.

My question still remains. Have you ever seen where such is sold and the money shared among the children? I know Igbos don't do such.

The article didn't say it's an ancestral home, it says it's a house of the their late parents
Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by Luiz321: 10:37am On Jan 25, 2023
gaby:


He feels entitled and sees you as taking over the part that belonged to his father and by extension his inheritance.

Just be wise and smart about it because such an entitled boy can do and undo to have his way.

He's got people behind, beating the drums and clapping for the dance he has embarked upon.

You’re wise man!
Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by flyingdutchman(m): 10:56am On Jan 25, 2023
1) Who built the house?
2) Who purchased the land?
Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by flourishing247: 10:56am On Jan 25, 2023
07kjb:


Nope that one is voluntary I can give my daughter a portion of any of my property
But she doesn't have cultural and traditional right in the sharing of inheritance

See this things are deep even when I want to give my daughter any of my property I must consult my son's for them to be in agreement with me hence if I die tomorrow my son's will reclaim the said property on the ground that they were not informed

That's for property in the village. They have no right to question your authority over property in the urban area.
Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by mens83: 11:11am On Jan 25, 2023
Anal55:
Nairalanders how do you tackle this kind of problem especially when it has to do with family and property
My nephew is dragging right with me over our family house his father was my elder brother and the first born in our family we where five in number 2 boys and 3 girls although my female siblings are married .
My parents left us with a family house as the where now late so my brother lives in the landlord palour which was a self con apartment when he was alive although his relationship with his wife didn't work out as the woman wasn't married by my brother but she had kids for him now after my brother death I moved to the apartment as and started living there although I did a little renovation on it and others .
Until I have to travel all in the hustle although I was still in Nigeria but I moved to the northern part of Nigeria only to receive calls from my neighbors that my nephew has break into my apartment and do some retouching in my own house
Note there was never a time I ask them to live the compound or anything infact this is a family house as everyone has a room why must it be that my own.
I need advice as am very very pissed off
I brought this here for wiser contribution
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The thing is that this boy am talking about went to HK only to pick money from it as I heard only to come to break into my own apartment if he thinks he needs a room there are many there it's is literally insulting

Which advice you go like?
1. By extension it's your nephew's right to take over his father property. Except if there is written will. So move back where you were before now.
2. Build your own house and have peace of mind. Even if it's one room but still yours.

Avoid trouble o! No go show yourself
Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by Vyzz: 11:22am On Jan 25, 2023
Anal55:

Yeah that's the truth the fact is that I called this boy to ask him if he didn't see other room to renovate he said he doesn't own me any explanation
The bitter truth is that my parents literally spent everything they had trying to send him to school before I could grow up the are already aged because I was the last born I couldn't reach University although we didn't have any bad blood but it is very insulting to me



You are not ready to fight this battle believe me...



Free am..


You can remember it in the future when u are ready
Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by Saintmary(f): 11:47am On Jan 25, 2023
Anal55:
Nairalanders how do you tackle this kind of problem especially when it has to do with family and property
My nephew is dragging right with me over our family house his father was my elder brother and the first born in our family we where five in number 2 boys and 3 girls although my female siblings are married .
My parents left us with a family house as the where now late so my brother lives in the landlord palour which was a self con apartment when he was alive although his relationship with his wife didn't work out as the woman wasn't married by my brother but she had kids for him now after my brother death I moved to the apartment as and started living there although I did a little renovation on it and others .
Until I have to travel all in the hustle although I was still in Nigeria but I moved to the northern part of Nigeria only to receive calls from my neighbors that my nephew has break into my apartment and do some retouching in my own house
Note there was never a time I ask them to live the compound or anything infact this is a family house as everyone has a room why must it be that my own.
I need advice as am very very pissed off
I brought this here for wiser contribution
Modifying[b][/b]
The thing is that this boy am talking about went to HK only to pick money from it as I heard only to come to break into my own apartment if he thinks he needs a room there are many there it's is literally insulting


Your father is late, your elder brother is late, get a lawyer, sell the house and share the money accordingly.


Shikenan
Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by sisisioge: 11:52am On Jan 25, 2023
Na wa for you too. You guys would have properly shared the space while the brother was alive or maintained the space you were using before his demise as your own. At worse, you could have properly shared the space after his demise so his kids could continue with his portion. But no o, you had to go embarrass yourself by moving into his own space despite having other available rooms, right? Anyways, if I were you, I would call a meeting and properly share the rooms now before things go overboard. Everyone can then do as they please with their portions.
Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by michlins(m): 12:50pm On Jan 25, 2023
Harddiskng:
The house belongs to the entire family (siblings). Sell if off and give everyone their share, the boy inclusive (your late elder brother’s share).

Landed properties usually turn siblings to enemies, it’s always best to create a will stating what belongs to who.
no be for Igbo land. You can not sell that particular property
Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by Levels1(m): 12:58pm On Jan 25, 2023
Zihno:


I believe this is the accepted tradition in all Nigerian culture. As a Bini man, what the Igbos call “Obi” the residence of the man of the house will always go to the first son irrespective of the location ( City/Village). If the father has other properties, it will be shared amongst all the children (or their families if any is late) including women. This is our tradition. Inheriting the family house doesn’t give the son the right to send any of this siblings or step mom away from the house. They should only leave of their own choosing.


You are wrong not just wrong but very very very indeed.

You should have said in your tribe but saying acceptable tradition in Nigeria is absurd.

I'm a Yoruba tribe, and from IJEBU.

There's nothing like giving property to first son in my place.

Infact properties are been shared equally between and among the children irespective of the gender.


If you like give birth to males , that's your choice and if you like born only females is your choice also and you don't have to be worried.

They all share it equally.

When my father died, my mom's first born was a female and she picked before me.

We don't do such in our own tradition so you can't generalized it to Nigeria.


NOTE:

This is what my elder brother wife a Bini lady was trying to do in our family back then, by saying her husband owns the properties even when he told her our culture is different but she keeps acting foolishly until she was scrolled by the Kingsmen. Pamela is a useless woman.
Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by Anal55: 10:48pm On Jan 25, 2023
Saintmary:



Your father is late, your elder brother is late, get a lawyer, sell the house and share the money accordingly.


Shikenan
This is an ancestral home you can't sell such thing
Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by Anal55: 10:48pm On Jan 25, 2023
Zihno:


Like someone has said already, the house belongs to the first son. At the fathers death, his eldest surviving son should inherit his property and INHERITANCE. You are only a custodian although no one can make you leave if you don’t want to as it is still your father’s house. But this house doesn’t belong to you. It belongs to the son. He even has the right to sell it. This is according to my tradition and I’m a Bini man.
Hmmm
Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by Anal55: 10:49pm On Jan 25, 2023
TheRealOwner:


You guys are Igbos right?
Yes of course
Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by Izurejoice: 12:36am On Jan 26, 2023
Anal55:
Nairalanders how do you tackle this kind of problem especially when it has to do with family and property
My nephew is dragging right with me over our family house his father was my elder brother and the first born in our family we where five in number 2 boys and 3 girls although my female siblings are married .
My parents left us with a family house as the where now late so my brother lives in the landlord palour which was a self con apartment when he was alive although his relationship with his wife didn't work out as the woman wasn't married by my brother but she had kids for him now after my brother death I moved to the apartment as and started living there although I did a little renovation on it and others .
Until I have to travel all in the hustle although I was still in Nigeria but I moved to the northern part of Nigeria only to receive calls from my neighbors that my nephew has break into my apartment and do some retouching in my own house
Note there was never a time I ask them to live the compound or anything infact this is a family house as everyone has a room why must it be that my own.
I need advice as am very very pissed off
I brought this here for wiser contribution
Modifying[b][/b]
The thing is that this boy am talking about went to HK only to pick money from it as I heard only to come to break into my own apartment if he thinks he needs a room there are many there it's is literally insulting
his father was the first son ,the diokpala, so the house belonged to his father, which this person in question also inherited from his father. So actually the house belongs to the boy. It is you who will be required to be shown your own portion of land ,where you will build your own house and move out of your parents house( ipu obi) . Wisdom demands that you don't necessarily create unnecessary badblood. Obviously some persons has been telling the boy nonsense. Talk to your kinsmen, let your father's inheritance be shared, it's this same boy that will give you, your own inheritance as in land, though he can't chase you out of the house but for the sake of your own children, involve the elders and get your own inheritance now.
Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by Saintmary(f): 9:41am On Jan 26, 2023
Anal55:

This is an ancestral home you can't sell such thing


Okay o.


I bid you good luck.
Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by frozen70(f): 11:20am On Jan 26, 2023
Anal55:
Nairalanders how do you tackle this kind of problem especially when it has to do with family and property
My nephew is dragging right with me over our family house his father was my elder brother and the first born in our family we where five in number 2 boys and 3 girls although my female siblings are married .
My parents left us with a family house as the where now late so my brother lives in the landlord palour which was a self con apartment when he was alive although his relationship with his wife didn't work out as the woman wasn't married by my brother but she had kids for him now after my brother death I moved to the apartment as and started living there although I did a little renovation on it and others .
Until I have to travel all in the hustle although I was still in Nigeria but I moved to the northern part of Nigeria only to receive calls from my neighbors that my nephew has break into my apartment and do some retouching in my own house
Note there was never a time I ask them to live the compound or anything infact this is a family house as everyone has a room why must it be that my own.
I need advice as am very very pissed off
I brought this here for wiser contribution
Modifying[b][/b]
The thing is that this boy am talking about went to HK only to pick money from it as I heard only to come to break into my own apartment if he thinks he needs a room there are many there it's is literally insulting

You have two options

Involve senior family members, sell the house and share the money into two and give the family of your senior brother their own half and the whole drama will end

Second option, share the property to the witness of the family and take one part and give them the other party

But the best is first option
Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by Likinwee: 1:46pm On Jan 26, 2023
If your elder brother died before your father, then it's your right but if your father died before your elder brother, leave the house for your the boy, it is his own
Re: My Nephew Is Dragging My Family Right With Me by Justbehave(m): 1:56pm On Jan 26, 2023
frozen70:


You have two options

Involve senior family members, sell the house and share the money into two and give the family of your senior brother their own half and the whole drama will end

Second option, share the property to the witness of the family and take one part and give them the other party

But the best is first option
Trash. Who told you that ancestral house can be sold and the money shared? Stop making input on the areas you are not conversant with.

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