This happened in 2017 at MFM Ajah. The pastor in hus Sunday sermon said there are ways of the Bible and there are ways of the world. But one must also learn the ways of the world along with the ways of the Bible to make it in life. He then proceeded to highlight some of these ways of the world.

This is similar to one of the messages of Sam Adeyemi around that period, when he said that Christians should learn the language of the world, that the churches place too much emphasy on spiritual things to the extent that Christians don't know what to say when they are interacting with the people of the world.

I asked myself these questions: Why should I learn the ways and language of the world in a Church? Did I come here to learn the ways of the world? If I have to learn the ways of the world, is the Church the right place?

Please Mr 'Pastors', if I need to learn the ways of the world I know where to go and it is not your church. Not the church.


As Christians, we must always walk in descernment. Many have lost their salvation due to lack of descernment.
We are the salt and the light of the world, the light that darkness cannot comprehend. We are not of this world. We don't have to copy the world.

Both pastors are very correct. With the way nigeria is going now, as a Christian you must learn the way of the world and apply it when necessary.

If people are reducing their age to get a job in the private sector you too join them and reduce your own age to get the job.

If people are registering companies with CAC to get government contracts they don't have the knowledge to execute and later sell the contract to companies that can do it, my dear brother join them and do it to get money.

With the way nigeria is now, you need to use your head.

Omihanifa:
Both pastors are very correct. With the way nigeria is going now, as a Christian you must learn the way of the world and apply it when necessary.
If people are reducing their age to get a job in the private sector you too join them and reduce your own age to get the job.
If people are registering companies with CAC to get government contracts they don't have the knowledge to execute and later sell the contract to companies that can do it, my dear brother join them and do it to get money.
With the way nigeria is now, you need to use your head.

I REBUKE THE EVIL SPIRIT IN YOU IN JESUS NAME.
So Christians should join them on the broad way that leads to hell? No, Christians should not join them because the world is doing it and it appears they are getting away with it. Not many people will have the opportunity to repent and ask for forgiveness before they die. A lot, most people die suddenly.
And btw, do you attend churches to learn how to lie and forge documents?

I am not here to debate. Take the bitter truth and follow the narrow way to heaven or follow the broad way which leads to hell. Your choice.

@mrrandomguy

Prov 4:7 admonished us not only to get wisdom but to also get understanding.

Could it be possible that you lacked a proper understanding of the message and you're thinking in another direction? As someone who follows both the teachings of MFM & Daystar (Pastor Sam), I can tell you that you must have misinterpreted the message.

If you're being told to learn or understand the ways of the world, they're not talking about sin but to have a subtle approach to confronting the world.

When Jesus ate with sinners and tax collectors, the Pharisees accused him of dining with sinners, yet he knew the best way to win them over was to blend in with them.

Sometimes we think we're too spiritual to mix with people, engage with them and speak in a way that appeals to them. Context matters a lot and I will encourage you to ask vital questions from a spiritual mentor when you're perplexed about a message.

The pastors are confused.

God said MY WAYS ARE NOT YOUR WAYS.

They ways of God are quite different from the ways of the world. People are in church because the ways of the world has failed them, the language of the world has corrupted them, they have come to seek therapy. Why send them back to very thing that damaged them?

webdevprof:
@mrrandomguy

Prov 4:7 admonished us not only to get wisdom but to also get understanding.

Could it be possible that you lacked a proper understanding of the message and you're thinking in another direction? As someone who follows both the teachings of MFM & Daystar (Pastor Sam), I can tell you that you must have misinterpreted the message.

If you're being told to learn or understand the ways of the world, they're not talking about sin but to have a subtle approach to confronting the world.

When Jesus ate with sinners and tax collectors, the Pharisees accused him of dining with sinners, yet he knew the best way to win them over was to blend in with them.

Sometimes we think we're too spiritual to mix with people, engage with them and speak in a way that appeals to them. Context matters a lot and I will encourage you to ask vital questions from a spiritual mentor when you're perplexed about a message.

Relating with people in cordial and respectful manner are ways of God not ways of the world. Jesus showed it by example.

Jesus himself said He is not of this world, meaning he never learnt the language of the world nor choose their ways, yet he was super successful in all he did.

YOU DON'T NEED TO LEARN THE LANGUAGE OF THE WORLD.

mployer:


Relating with people in cordial and respectful manner are ways of God not ways of the world. Jesus showed it by example.

Jesus himself said He is not of this world, meaning he never learnt the language of the world nor choose their ways, yet he was super successful in all he did.

YOU DON'T NEED TO LEARN THE LANGUAGE OF THE WORLD.

You didn't read to understand but to critique my comment. Get understanding... Very vital. Shalom.

The prince of this world is the devil. And he only favours the cheaters and the wicked.
That is why insincere people always become rich and successful quickly.
For a Christian you can't serve God and devil together, you must choose one. Jesus has overcome the devil on your behalf and your honest hustle will make you successful with peace of mind. But instead of empowering members with lucrative skills, business strategies and investment ideas, the pastors only ask them to pay tithes, sow seeds, expect miracles, etc. I believe this is what Sam Adeyemi means when he said to learn the language of the world.

mrrandomguy:
This happened in 2017 at MFM Ajah. The pastor in hus Sunday sermon said there are ways of the Bible and there are ways of the world. But one must also learn the ways of the world along with the ways of the Bible to make it in life. He then proceeded to highlight some of these ways of the world.

This is similar to one of the messages of Sam Adeyemi around that period, when he said that Christians should learn the language of the world, that the churches place too much emphasy on spiritual things to the extent that Christians don't know what to say when they are interacting with the people of the world.

I asked myself these questions: Why should I learn the ways and language of the world in a Church? Did I come here to learn the ways of the world? If I have to learn the ways of the world, is the Church the right place?

Please Mr 'Pastors', if I need to learn the ways of the world I know where to go and it is not your church. Not the church.


As Christians, we must always walk in descernment. Many have lost their salvation due to lack of descernment.
We are the salt and the light of the world, the light that darkness cannot comprehend. We are not of this world. We don't have to copy the world.

YOU LACK UNDERSTANDING OF THE MEASAGE
How do u get attention of people when you don't know their passion or their pinpoint, you will just waste your time.

It's far more easier to preach to a football lover when you start by striking a football conversation then u stylishly switch the topic.

You think you can just walk to a brothel share fliers and you expect them to show up in your programs?

DO THINGS THE SMART WAY