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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 7:03pm On May 29, 2023
odizeey:
Na why una dey fit openly support Messi be this.

You didn't experience ororo. You didn't get intimate with the experience he gave. Oh my. Oh my
You people can twist fact sha.

The season he won the highest goalscorer and won the league, he wasn't a midfielder. 2007/08

Joker.man was saying this thing like joke but small small e don turn to facts
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jokerman(m): 7:05pm On May 29, 2023
Ellexy:
That's the simplest question in the whole world and you're telling "is" is the problem.... cheesy okay let me add options.

Cristiano Ronaldo is......
A. Midfielder
B. Attacker
C. Defender
D. Goalkeeper
E. Coach
The traditional number 7 and 11 is actually a midfielder from the 4-4-2 days.....

Check Finidi George, Tijani Babaginda, Pavel Needed, David Beckham, Ryan Giggs, Quaresma, Nani, Amuneke, Marc Overmars, Camoranesi, Luis Figo etc....
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 7:07pm On May 29, 2023
Tomorrow, Una go talk say Rashford na Midfielder grin grin

Someone even said Ronaldo played Midfield at Madrid.

Things we see here grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jokerman(m): 7:08pm On May 29, 2023
Jodera:
You people can twist fact sha.

The season he won the highest goalscorer and won the league, he wasn't a midfielder. 2007/08

Joker.man was saying this thing like joke but small small e don turn to facts
See below bro... Sometimes Nani would play ahead of Hargreaves.

Ronaldo was more of an attacking forward than the traditional right winger though that season

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ellexy: 7:08pm On May 29, 2023
afrodoc2:
The question you should be asking is was he a midfielder, attacker, defender, goalkeeper, or coach in 2007/2008 when he won the golden boot. Remember that is what started this debate.
No be 2007/2008 most used lineup be this?

angry

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jokerman(m): 7:13pm On May 29, 2023
Jodera:
Tomorrow, Una go talk say Rashford na Midfielder grin grin

Someone even said Ronaldo played Midfield at Madrid.

Things we see here grin
1st season with Raul under Pelligrini

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ellexy: 7:17pm On May 29, 2023
Jokerman:
See below bro... Sometimes Nani would play ahead of Hargreaves.

Ronaldo was more of an attacking forward than the traditional right winger though that season
From this lineup you posted, was Joe Cole and Malouda playing as midfielders?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 7:18pm On May 29, 2023
Jokerman:
See below bro... Sometimes Nani would play ahead of Hargreaves.

Ronaldo was more of an attacking forward than the traditional right winger though that season
Everyone knows he's an Attacking forward. (Key word is forward).

He hardly plays deep reason why he have so many goals.


This is just like 4231 where the "3" in the formation are called midfielders but anybody who watches ball knows they're purely wing-forwards
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:20pm On May 29, 2023
Ellexy:
No be 2007/2008 most used lineup be this?

angry
That was in the Champions League. SAF played a 4-3-3 most of the Champions League with Tevez, Rooney, CR7 in attack but in most of the EPL games that season it was a 4-4-2 with CR7 on the flanks with either Giggs or Nani (or JS Park).
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 7:22pm On May 29, 2023
Ten Hag when asked by Henry Winter on Mason Greenwood future: “He has showed in the past that he is capable of scoring goals”.

…but emphasises it’s “not my decision as to whether he returns”.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ellexy: 7:25pm On May 29, 2023
afrodoc2:
That was in the Champions League. SAF played a 4-3-3 most of the Champions League with Tevez, Rooney, CR7 in attack but in most of the EPL games that season it was a 4-4-2 with CR7 on the flanks with either Giggs or Nani (or JS Park).
So Doc someone who's playing as a RW is no longer a forward anymore but a midfielder because of agenda?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:27pm On May 29, 2023
Jodera:
Everyone knows he's an Attacking forward. (Key word is forward).

He hardly plays deep reason why he have so many goals.


This is just like 4231 where the "3" in the formation are called midfielders but anybody who watches ball knows they're purely wing-forwards
Don't lose focus. The debate is not about his whole career but about the position he played in the EPL in the 2007/2008 season when he won the golden boot.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ellexy: 7:29pm On May 29, 2023
Jokerman:
The traditional number 7 and 11 is actually a midfielder from the 4-4-2 days.....

Check Finidi George, Tijani Babaginda, Pavel Needed, David Beckham, Ryan Giggs, Quaresma, Nani, Amuneke, Marc Overmars, Camoranesi, Luis Figo etc....
They are attackers yes? And attackers are forwards in football end of story. Some of them have to skillet to integrate into the middle proper dictating and orchestrating play. Ronaldo is not among those who do that.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:29pm On May 29, 2023
Ellexy:
So Doc someone who's playing as a RW is no longer a forward anymore but a midfielder because of agenda?
In a 4-4-2 a wide man is a midfielder. In a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 a wide man is a forward.

Which agenda? Na you know about agenda. I have praised CR7 here and i have also lambasted him. Facts are facts.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:30pm On May 29, 2023
Ellexy:
They are attackers yes? And attackers are forwards in football end od story. Some of them have to skillet to integrate into the middle proper dictating and orchestrating play. Ronaldo is not among those who do that.
Stick to the 2007-2008 season in question. This is not an assessment of Ronaldo's career.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ellexy: 7:32pm On May 29, 2023
eph12:
Is? No. Was? Yes.

He started as a RM. SAF later moved him higher when he saw how prolific he can be when playing closer to the goal. It's fine if you didn't experience that period. I too missed 99
Eph a winger is forward. The territory they operate in the game shows that.

Nowadays wingers are required to come back and defend, maybe we'll tag them defenders as well.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jokerman(m): 7:33pm On May 29, 2023
Ellexy:
They are attackers yes? And attackers are forwards in football end od story. Some of them have to skillet to integrate into the middle proper dictating and orchestrating play. Ronaldo is not among those who do that.
Ronaldo does not have the skillset to play midfield?? So why did Fergie draft him in the midfield in a 4-4-2 formation?? He should have substituted him out when he wanted to play 4-4-2 abi?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jokerman(m): 7:36pm On May 29, 2023
Ellexy:
From this lineup you posted, was Joe Cole and Malouda playing as midfielders?
That's 4-3-3, they are playing as forwards...

When Mourinho wants 4-4-2, even Arjen Robben plays as a midfielder along with Nalouda or Joe Cole.

Drogba kezman

Robben Lampard Makelele Joe Cole

4-4-2
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dreamxhaser: 7:36pm On May 29, 2023
Ellexy:
He was playing RW not as a midfielder but a forward. Ronaldo has never been a midfielder neither does he have the skill set to play there. He has been a forward/attacker all his life. Don't rewrite history for some useless dead on arrival agenda.
Mr man Ronaldo played midfield.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dreamxhaser: 7:38pm On May 29, 2023
Trevor012:
Craze people that won't celebrate one of the greatest player to ever bring joy and trophies to Manchester United but twerk for a useless ugly midget from Barcelona that denied your club two more champions league trophies. Ogun suppose locate and flog some of all these idiots. Nothing worst than a United fan supporting that useless dwarf.
The thing just dey shock me.

How can a United fan support messi. Even chealsea fans dont commit such blunder
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ellexy: 7:40pm On May 29, 2023
Jokerman:
That's 4-3-3, they are playing as forwards...

When Mourinho wants 4-4-2, even Arjen Robben plays as a midfielder along with Nalouda or Joe Cole.

Drogba kezman

Robben Lampard Makelele Joe Cole

4-4-2
So even though the positions of both Joe Cole and Ronaldo are the same from the lineup, one is a forward and the other is a midfielder. Lol
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dreamxhaser: 7:40pm On May 29, 2023
Ellexy:
That's the simplest question in the whole world and you're telling "is" is the problem.... cheesy okay let me add options.

Cristiano Ronaldo is......
A. Midfielder
B. Attacker
C. Defender
D. Goalkeeper
E. Coach
Boss, ronaldo played midfield in his early years at united.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ellexy: 7:46pm On May 29, 2023
afrodoc2:
Stick to the 2007-2008 season in question. This is not an assessment of Ronaldo's career.
So in 2008 Ronaldo playing on the wing is called a midfielder. The same Ronaldo played on the same wing subsequent seasons, position didn't change but now he's an attacker. Interesting
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jokerman(m): 7:47pm On May 29, 2023
Ellexy:
So even though the positions of both Joe Cole and Ronaldo are the same from the lineup, one is a forward and the other is a midfielder. Lol
Chelsea was 4-3-3 and Manchester was 4-4-2.

Check it again bro
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:52pm On May 29, 2023
Ellexy:
So in 2008 Ronaldo playing on the wing is called a midfielder. The same Ronaldo played on the same wing subsequent seasons, position didn't change but now he's an attacker. Interesting
I am responsible for what i typed. You are responsible for your lack of understanding. In the EPL that season Fergie played mainly a 4-4-2 cos he could go all out and most times CR7 was on the wings, with Tevez and Rooney in attack. In the Champions League he brought in an extra midfielder and moved CR7 into attack to join Tevez and Rooney. Some other times he played a 4-4-2/4-3-3 hybrid like in the UCL final.



In Madrid CR7 played on the wings in a 4-3-3 NOT a 4-4-2. If you don't still understand then i can't help you out.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 7:56pm On May 29, 2023
Jodera:
You people can twist fact sha.

The season he won the highest goalscorer and won the league, he wasn't a midfielder. 2007/08

Joker.man was saying this thing like joke but small small e don turn to facts
What facts? Did you follow our games then?

The way the two sidemen operate then in that 442 is not the same way wing men operate in 433 nowadays
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:59pm On May 29, 2023
odizeey:
What facts? Did you follow our games then?

The way the two sidemen operate then in that 442 is not the same way wing men operate in 433 nowadays


This is what people need to get into their score. cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 8:13pm On May 29, 2023
afrodoc2:
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This is what people need to get into their score. cheesy
I dey tell you boss.

They think it's agenda.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:22pm On May 29, 2023
Ellexy:
Eph a winger is forward. The territory they operate in the game shows that.

Nowadays wingers are required to come back and defend, maybe we'll tag them defenders as well.
Agidi sha because of agenda cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 8:57pm On May 29, 2023
dreamxhaser:
It might not be his usual mind games. One thing people are failing to see is that FA final is a 50/50 for anybody.

Its not like city are going to crush us 4-0

I am sure it will be a tougher match for city than that madrid semi final. A lot is at stake in that game + when the boys show up, they become a threat to anyone.

I can bet the scorline difference for any team that wins wont be more than one.
This must be a joke. This United team will disgrace you and your permutations grin

We shall be humiliated because of the idiots we parade
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:00pm On May 29, 2023
We played 4 - 4 - 2. In that formation, he was a midfielder but we mostly played on the counter or broke fast enough that Ronaldo used his pace to get into the box or into scoring positions in record time.

So, you can say he starts as a RM but in the course of a match, he pushes forward at every chance.

John Stones is a defender on paper but we all know in games he plays as a midfielder.

This thing is not as straight as it appears.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 9:22pm On May 29, 2023
afrodoc2:
Don't lose focus. The debate is not about his whole career but about the position he played in the EPL in the 2007/2008 season when he won the golden boot.
Na same thing (2008) I dey talk na
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