₦airaland Forum

Lithiumite:
how many states or regions produce cocoa? before oil,cocoa was one of the mainstay of the Nigerian economy during the colonial period and early independence......"it was something the chicken was eating before corn came"

..you don quickly enter history..

..how many states produce crude oil..because cocoa was used to finance Western Nigeria does not mean that it financed the Eastern region or Northern region..they had palmoil & groundnut pyramid respectively..you want to distort history to defend the emilokan parapo of Thief'nubu, his kinsmen & region..

..let me ask you this question..the FEDERAL cocoa research institute in Ibadan..how much has it contributed in raising revenue for the geographical expression Nigeria since after oil was discovered..?

..See you rewriting history & deflecting from the corruption under the maladministration of your clueless corrupt messiah kinsman Thief'nubu..

..I don't pity you at all..

Tochi3:


..you don quickly enter history..

..how many states produce crude oil..because cocoa was used to finance Western Nigeria does not mean that it financed the Eastern region or Northern region..they had palmoil & groundnut pyramid respectively..you want to distort history to defend the emilokan parapo of Thief'nubu, his kinsmen & region..

..let me ask you this question..the FEDERAL cocoa research institute in Ibadan..how much has it contributed in raising revenue for the geographical expression Nigeria since after oil was discovered..?

..See you rewriting history & deflecting from the corruption of under the maladministration of your clueless corrupt messiah kinsman Thief'nubu..

..I don't pity you at all..

The last I checked rivers isn't a cocoa producing state....you refused to see that

Lithiumite:
The last I checked rivers isn't a cocoa producing state....you refused to see that

..the last I checked River state is an oil producing state..that feeds the [b] FEDERAL
[/b]research institute at Ibadan..you failed to see that in all your parapo deception..

..tell me..apart from Kano & PH..that has one paddede allocation..how many of the padded budget from the [b][ FEDERAL/b] research institute can be found in only SW region..?

Many Nigerians don't know shit. They just come online to talk anyhow.
I can comfortably tell us that of all the stated amount of money, the institute (CRIN) will collect no dime.
This is nothing but the handiwork of your various legistlooters. If the CEO does not cooperate, he/she is in soup and he will definitely have problem with his institution's legitimate budget.
These looters are so desperate and they will follow their money all the way from Abuja to it's location, collect it then disappear.
Many CEO in Nigeria are already in their net and there's invariably nothing they can do.
That was the same way they sent one CEO in IAR&T Ibadan (Prof. Ogunmodede) to prison because he was so gullible and played to their hands.

While we all condemn Tinubu (myself inclusive) let us remember that the real cankerworm and devourers of the Nigerian people are these various looters and if nothing is done.....then, we are all in hot soup!

Karleb:
I did my SIWES there in 2017 and the company does not look like one that has upto 20m in it's account.

Thats what you’ll see, but underground, money dey move swiftly and steadily

Lovit:
That being the practice doesn't make it right.

so tell us why a research Institute in Oyo is handling constituency project in Lagos and Rivers?

if not for corruption, are there no resident MDAs in Lagos and Rivers for their indigent NASS members to use?

see below quotes from former Presidents on this issue as seen on Vanguard

Obasanjo, Buhari, Jonathan take positions

Obasanjo himself who started constituency project in 2023 once described it as nothing but corruption, saying, “You and I know what constituency project means, it is simply corruption.”

Former President Muhammadu Buhari echoed similar claim in 2019 when he said the impact of the trillions of Naira voted for constituency projects could hardly be seen in the lives of ordinary Nigerians.

On his part, former President Goodluck Jonathan had said “don’t put the goat where yam is because the goat will eat the yam” in apparent reference to corrupt acts dogging constituency projects.

Sadly, only the National Assembly has the power of appropriation. All former presidents have tried to fight them over it unsuccessfully. Except the constitution is changed, nothing can be done about it.

As regards your first question, it is the choice of the lawmakers to decide the MDA they want to execute their constituency and Zonal intervention projects. MDAS can’t do anything about it. They simply see this projects in their budget after it has been passed into law. Not implementing it means violating the Appropriation Act.

ALTERNATEID:
Sadly, only the National Assembly has the power of appropriation. All former presidents have tried to fight them over it unsuccessfully. Except the constitution is changed, nothing can be done about it.

As regards your first question, it is the choice of the lawmakers to decide the MDA they want to execute their constituency and Zonal intervention projects. MDAS can’t do anything about it. They simply see this projects in their budget after it has been passed into law. Not implementing it means violating the Appropriation Act.

Thank you for your matured approach to this

We all know that the MDAs do not really handle any of these projects, they are merely conduit pipe for the NASS members to receive these funds while their Ogas gets a percentage as ' Thank you for doing business with us '

What you get when a thief is
your president
.

Tochi3:


..the last I checked River state is an oil producing state..that feeds the [b] FEDERAL
[/b]research institute at Ibadan..you failed to see that in all your parapo deception..

..tell me..apart from Kano & PH..that has one paddede allocation..how many of the padded budget from the [b][ FEDERAL/b] research institute can be found in only SW region..?

Until you change the constitution and how out sovereign wealth is defined....there is nothing your ranting can do about it,you could start from your ward.

Lithiumite:
Until you change the constitution and how out sovereign wealth is defined....there is nothing your ranting can do about it,you could start from your ward.

.my ,friend..that is your own emilokan cup of tea..

..i am only interested exposing double faced cowards who claim to be sophisticated cum educated who defend criminals in ungovernment because of tribalism & ethno_religous stupidity..

..listen.. your messiah Thief'nubu has given you BATists renewed hopelessness..Stick to defend a roasted electricity fraud before delving into a worthless constitution..

iwaeda:
These are the kind of frivolous budget items, Tinubu APC law makers inserted into the budgets and nobody can sight amongst Akpabio lead NASS. Yet they are telling us to tighten our belts, increased taxes for nothing meaningful to the life of citizens. Punishing Nigerians for non existence projects. We are all mute with this SUFFERING.

Let's call it what it is... frivolous would be N20m end-of-year party gifts for staff. This is criminal corruption in broad day light. Who audited this budget?

HydraFeeds:
We have weak institutions in Nigeria. Cocoa research institute should focus only on cocoa .

No, we have criminal gangs masquerading as "institutions" in Nigeria.

mach7:
Good information can be sometimes used for mischievous purposes.

BudgIT has provided the facts, but did not provide a good background for the facts presented.

It is a known practice for constituency projects to be embedded into the budgets of MDAs. The respective MDA is expected to contract out and oversee the implementation of the constituency project within the timeframe and voted amount as provided for in the budget.

This method was adopted to ensure that constituency allowance for projects are not paid directly to lawmakers due to issues of mismanagement and/or corruption. The lawmaker is only responsible for identifying the project needed after due consultation with his or her constituents. Lawmaker is also expected to confirm that the constituency project was carried out.

If you check the budget of different MDAs you will see voted amounts for constituency projects embedded on them. This has been the practice since the OBJ era.

Let's be guided please.

CRIN is based in Oyo State, the "constituency projects" are in several states including Lagos, Rivers, Ondo. Are you saying legislators from those states are hiding costs for "constituency projects" in unrelated entities outside their jurisdiction? Why is providing solar lights in Festac not the job of the LASG?

Tochi3:


.my ,friend..that is your own emilokan cup of tea..

..i am only interested exposing double faced cowards who claim to be sophisticated cum educated who defend criminals in ungovernment because of tribalism & ethno_religous stupidity..

..listen your messiah Thief'nubu has given you BATists renewed hopelessness..Stick to defend a roasted electricity fraud before delving into a worthless constitution..

Only if you were half as intelligent as your obvious intellectual incapacitation depicts.....you still could be considered a decent civilised fellow worth engaging in proper discourse with......but what have we here......a rancid ideologue who wants to impress his deliquent narrative on rather reasonable minds who refused to be caught up in your mindless ostrich play.

Lithiumite:
Only if you were half as intelligent as your obvious intellectual incapacitation depicts.....you still could be considered a decent civilised fellow worth engaging in proper discourse with......but what have we here......a rancid ideologue who wants to impress his deliquent narrative on rather reasonable minds who refused to be caught up in your mindless ostrich play.

..Cornfessor Wole Soyinka is that you..?

..you have been exposed as a double faced hypocrite..your oxford useless grammers & gnashing will not change it..

Tochi3:


..Cornfessor Wole Soyinka is that you..?

..you have been exposed as a double faced hypocrite..your oxford useless grammers & gnashing will not change it..

It's not my fault your lexicon is rather shallow and too incapacitated to comprehend basic comprehension.

Back to topic before I descend into swine your obvious comfort zone......you insult an entire region because of the misplaced acts of a single agency of govt......shows how despicably imbecilic you are.

The person who wrote the below know nothing about budgeting in public servicemor maybe he is also corrupt too and supports such rubbish

These costs are called discretionary allocations, which is what is usually allocated for other costs after both capital and non discretionary operating expenditures(salaries,overheads, projects,etc) have been taken care of.

Ideally, these discretionary expenditures are usally a small percentage(5-10 percent) of of the non discretionary expenditures tha are necessary to run the parastatal or agency

The question to ask first is what the the total non discretionary(necessary)budgetary expenditure approved for the Cocoa institute to the extent that its discretionary expenditure for social responsibility is 250m??

Surely, the institute can not be spending 25%(assuming it was allocated 1bn which i doubt becuase that institute is dead) of its budget on corporate social responsibilities and such an institute with little output can not be having more than a billion naira for its non discretionary spendings. A good auditor will pick this up easily.

SCAM!!! Government corruption!!!

mach7:
Good information can be sometimes used for mischievous purposes.

BudgIT has provided the facts, but did not provide a good background for the facts presented.

It is a known practice for constituency projects to be embedded into the budgets of MDAs. The respective MDA is expected to contract out and oversee the implementation of the constituency project within the timeframe and voted amount as provided for in the budget.

This method was adopted to ensure that constituency allowance for projects are not paid directly to lawmakers due to issues of mismanagement and/or corruption. The lawmaker is only responsible for identifying the project needed after due consultation with his or her constituents. Lawmaker is also expected to confirm that the constituency project was carried out.

If you check the budget of different MDAs you will see voted amounts for constituency projects embedded on them. This has been the practice since the OBJ era.

Let's be guided please.

Lithiumite:
It's not my fault your lexicon is rather shallow and too incapacitated to comprehend basic comprehension.

Back to topic before I descend into swine your obvious comfort zone......you insult an entire region because of the misplaced acts of a single agency of govt......shows how despicably imbecilic you are.

..you are a funny hypocrite..,you also have Zero shame my emilokan friend..

..the highlights of your deceit is open for you to be ashamed of your self..

..as a Thief'nubu defender despite the budget padding under his emilokan watch..you have attempted to no avail to defend the rascalities of the looting of revenue based ob tribalism..


..you started your useless propaganda by diverting attention from the main issue..bringing history & Cocoa into a discourse totally unrelated in order for you to defend the miserable stipends you get from your corrupt pay masters..

..as if that useless diversion was not enough you stared talking about a useless constitution...again to deflect attention from the corruption perpetrated under Thief'nubu maladministration..all diversion tactics written in simple english..

..seeing that you have been exposed as a hypocrite & a defender of corruption..you became an emergency Cornfessor soyinka..writing useless & worthless grammers to deflect & defend corruption.. now taliking about understanding, comprehension & useless lexicons

..Clown..

..Mr man..i have warned you to defend your renewed hopelessness & stop been hypocritical about it..you should be ashamed of yourself..

Tochi3:


..you are a funny hypocrite..,you also have Zero shame my emilokan friend..

..the highlights of your deceit is open for you to be ashamed of your self..

..as a Thief'nubu defender despite the budget padding under his emilokan watch..you have attempted to no avail to defend the rascalities of the looting of revenue based ob tribalism..


..you started your useless propaganda by diverting attention from the main issue..bringing history & Cocoa into a discourse totally unrelated in order for you to defend the miserable stipends you get from your corrupt pay masters..

..as if that useless diversion was not enough you stared talking about a useless constitution...again to deflect attention from the corruption perpetrated under Thief'nubu maladministration..all diversion tactics written in simple english..

..seeing that you have been exposed as a hypocrite & a defender of corruption..you became an emergency Cornfessor soyinka..writing useless & worthless grammers to deflect & defend corruption.. now taliking about understanding, comprehension & useless lexicons

..Clown..

..Mr man..i have warned you to defend your renewed hopelessness & stop been hypocritical about it..you should be ashamed of yourself..

Who is the fool here? Bloody whelp!! I responded to the post that asked why SW was the most prominent region on the list and I adduced that to the fact that it is the major hub for cocoa in Nigeria.... In what way did I justify the actions of the agency?

Lithiumite:
Who is the fool here? Bloody whelp!! I responded to the post that asked why SW was the most prominent region on the list and I adduced that to the fact that it is the major hub for cocoa in Nigeria.... In what way did I justify the actions of the agency?

..what has cocoa got to do with a fraudulent budget padding to build classrooms & street lights by a federal institute & not a works or housing institute..? Why at all mention cocoa..how much does the federal Institute at ibadan able to generate..since it's useless Establishment..?

..what a clownish double faced hypocrite

Tochi3:


..what has cocoa got to do with a fraudulent budget padding to build classrooms & street lights by a federal institute & not a works or housing institute..? Why at all mention cocoa..how much does the federal Institute at ibadan been able to generate..since it's useless Establishment..?

..what a clownish double faced hypocrite

You know what, idiots like you are just inept reactionaries who can only make noise and can't do zilch......where in all my responses have I justified what that agency did.

You are here raucously ranting like a rabies dog,just because you have a phone and can string a few English words together to impress your fellow dunderheads.

Lithiumite:
You know what, idiots like you are just inept reactionaries who can only make noise and can't do zilch......where in all my responses have I justified what that agency did.

You are here raucously ranting like a rabies dog,just because you have a phone and can string a few English words together to impress your fellow dunderheads.

.. you have been exposed as a double faced hypocrite..who dish lies, deceit to defend & deflect attention from the corruption of Thief'nubu maladministration because of tribalism..your useless education is a total hopeless waste..

..Clown..

Tochi3:


.. you have been exposed as a double faced hypocrite..who dish lies, deceit to defend & deflect attention from the corruption of Thief'nubu maladministration because of tribalism..your useless education is a total hopeless waste..

..Clown..

It's obvious you are a waste of the very space you stand.....you have been asked severally to point out my bias or justification to that act of the said agency.....you still haven't but u did rather throw invectives and like an uncultured vermin with no iota of common sense.

Lithiumite:
It's obvious you are a waste of the very space you stand.....you have been asked severally to point out my bias or justification to that act of the said agency.....you still haven't but u did rather throw invectives and like an uncultured vermin with no iota of common sense.

..you are a clownish hypocrite for real.. "point out your bias bla bla bla nonsense..

..you think you are tslking to a member of your Circus parspo clowns..where you Twist your propaganda lies & deceit like a demon who fell from the sky..

..is it that you are unaware that your deceitful comments about budget padding & trying to justify the need for the looting of the budget because the institute Deal in cocoa which has according to your deceitful self.." feeding " Nigeria before independence..

..my question was since you brought cocoa into a discourse to justify the corruption
under Thief'nubu because he is your emilokan kinsman.. how much revenue has the FEDERAL Institute of cocoa research in Ibadan brougth as revenue since oil was discovered..?

..why bring cocoa into the issue in the first place if you are not a deceitful being..what has cocoa got to do with the oozimg corruption of budget padding & looting ..that a FEDERAL agency is involved in receiving the ends of corruption does not bother you because cocoa used to feed Nigeria before independence..what daftness..

. clownish deceitful snake..

ALTERNATEID:
Pick a budget and read my friend. That’s the practice since 1999. Check the budget of Federal Cooperative College, Orji River, Enugu state and see the over N100 billion budget for constituency projects alone. Cocoa research Ibadan is even very small in terms of allocation so I don’t understand why BIDGIT singled them out for this kind of misleading story.

^^^


You're so bold as to sneer at someone pointing out the anomaly in the budget.

Only in Nigeria.

Tochi3:


..you are a clownish hypocrite for real.. "point out your bias bla bla bla nonsense..

..you think you are tslking to a member of your Circus parspo clowns..where you Twist your propaganda lies & deceit like a demon who fell from the sky..

..is it that you are unaware that your deceitful comments about budget padding & trying to justify the need for the looting of the budget because the institute Deal in cocoa which has according to your deceitful self.." feeding " Nigeria before independence..

..my question was since you brought cocoa into a discourse to justify the corruption
under Thief'nubu because he is your emilokan kinsman.. how much revenue has the FEDERAL Institute of cocoa research in Ibadan brougth as revenue since oil was discovered..?

..why bring cocoa into the issue in the first place if you are not a deceitful being..what has cocoa got to do with the oozimg corruption of budget padding & looting ..that a FEDERAL agency is involved in receiving the ends of corruption does not bother you because cocoa used to feed Nigeria before independence..what daftness..

. clownish deceitful snake..

you are an inredeemable rabble rouser who cries wolf where there is non.....I have condescended enough to engage
In your nepotistic revelry......you bloody brigand who wants to bully everyone into your warped mob mentality.

I have never opined or impress on anyone what you are accusing me of.....cocoa research institute was the main topic in the original post but I still can't decipher how your I responsible self turned it into a diatribe of no consequence on the deed that had already been done.

mach7:
Good information can be sometimes used for mischievous purposes.

BudgIT has provided the facts, but did not provide a good background for the facts presented.

It is a known practice for constituency projects to be embedded into the budgets of MDAs. The respective MDA is expected to contract out and oversee the implementation of the constituency project within the timeframe and voted amount as provided for in the budget.

This method was adopted to ensure that constituency allowance for projects are not paid directly to lawmakers due to issues of mismanagement and/or corruption. The lawmaker is only responsible for identifying the project needed after due consultation with his or her constituents. Lawmaker is also expected to confirm that the constituency project was carried out.

If you check the budget of different MDAs you will see voted amounts for constituency projects embedded on them. This has been the practice since the OBJ era.

Let's be guided please.

^^^


You haven't made a point worth making.

'It has been the practice since 1999' isn't a valid defence.

ALTERNATEID:
That’s the practice since 1999. Check the budget of Federal Cooperative College, Orji River, Enugu state and see the over N100 billion budget for constituency projects alone. Cocoa research Ibadan is even very small in terms of allocation so I don’t understand why BIDGIT singled them out for this kind of misleading story.

^^^
The FCC Orji River project (if what you say is true) and the CRIN project are birds of the same feather and both must be called out for what they are.

Lovit:
That being the practice doesn't make it right.

^^^
Simple.

SERAP, BudgIT etc. are dutifully playing the role of towncrier but Nigerians are too heavily sedated to notice.

Let us keep waiting for God to come down from heaven to do what we can do by ourselves...while the rest of the world passes us by.

Lithiumite:
you are an inredeemable rabble rouser who cries wolf where there is non.....I have condescended enough to engage
In your nepotistic revelry......you bloody brigand who wants to bully everyone into your warped mob mentality.

I have never opined or impress on anyone what you are accusing me of.....cocoa research institute was the main topic in the original post but I still can't decipher how your I responsible self turned it into a diatribe of no consequence on the deed that had already been done.

..you are exposing your Lust for corruption & rascalities further..you have been caught pants down deceitfully defending the looting of an already padded budgets by those you hold in high esteem..

..if you are not a deceptive clownnish hypocrite...what do you mean by this..?

...does the cocoa base of Nigeria justify that CRIN receives proceeds of corruption..? Whsere did you condemn the corruption..?

..you jumped into a thread caveman like..started shouting " where is the cocoa base of Nigeria like a deluded hypocrite & tribalist which you are..you failed to condemn but to justify the corruption because CRIN deal at the base of cocoa in Nigeria..Clown.. you are even empty upstairs..

..if you are not an illiterate how can an educated persön ask unrelated stupid useless questions in a situation tainted by fraudulent illegalities & corruption..

.Clown wanted to justify corruption..but was caught dipping his hypocritical fingers inside a corruption jar..

..now the Clown is mad..for being exposed..

..you go cry tire..i dey ready for clownish hypocrites..