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pansophist:
Anybody that genuinely believes Ukraine can win Russia is an idiot. No weapon that is given to Ukraine will make them victorious against Russia.

Besides, Russia has nukes. If Russia reached the realisation that they are loosing, then they nuke everything and send humanity to extinction.

Zelensky is an idiot.

Bros, there are MILLIONS of people who hold staunchly to that belief. I want to see them cry in sifia pains when this is all over. They believe Ukraine would defeat Russia! Dunderheads everywhere!

MERCHANDISER:
Power going to the north and you being dead,which one is better?

Again if our forefathers and fathers fought for a better Nigeria. We will not be in poverty today..

MkO Abiloa fought and died for Nigeria. Only if everyone else were willing to fight along with him. MKO could have given up long time . But he was willing to die for a better Nigeria.....

But you on the other hand rather make peace with the oppressor. But you still living in poverty.....


Nigeria will never get better until people are ready to die.. Ukraine is fighting for their future and future of their loves 1 ....

Gerrard59:
Bros, there are MILLIONS of people who hold staunchly to that belief. I want to see them cry in sifia pains when this is all over. They believe Ukraine would defeat Russia! Dunderheads everywhere!

Anybody that thinks Nigeria will get better.. is an idiot

The war only makes Russia more stronger than the United States. Europe lost out after sanctions and boycotting Russia gas. It had a tow on both economy.

Trump is a business man. And he always thinks about profits/Gains on any negotiation or deals.

olatade:
Now do the same to Netanyahu…oh that won’t happen unfortunately

AIPAC won't let that happen. Trump already approved another 3 billion dollar in weapons aid for Israel.

Magnetic010:
Well, anyone who has spent 500 billion dollars defending you, your citizens and your territory can talk to you how ever he chooses...If Ukraine weren't depending on America to help her fight her war they wouldn't be at such a disadvantage

Please don’t spread false news, don’t fabricate data to buttress your opinion. See attached image, the source is from the state govt

bennybuhari:
He wants peace but show his office and the people of Ukraine some respect. He is president for God's sake. Why allow Vance to speak to him that way?

I watched the interview and honestly felt for him but again he started it when he allowed himself and his country to be used.

Yes no county is bigger than each other

Lexusgs430:
How would trump expect him to accept the nonsense, he was proposing........

How will he pay back what America has given him? Abi you think there is free money anywhere in this world?

God1000:
Donald trump should go to hell, he's a big embarrassment and a disgrace to his office, you don't talk to another president that way

I have never seen a President act so disrespectful to a President of another country in my life. zelensky should have walked out on him.

Trump is a vile bully, his behaviour was appalling, Zelenskyy has shown strength and dignity that trump could only dream of

When he was receiving 350 billion dollars from Biden he was feeling funky, Trump even described him as the best salesman of the year, anytime he comes to America , he leaves with at least 60 billion dollars ...... That was until Trump came and told him point blank, you can't win this , make peace
Is that too much for the comedian ?

BondRiv:
I don't know why you are ignorantly smiling in your comment to that fellow. Zelensky is the President of Ukraine, so eventually he gets to be in talks about resolving the war in UKRAINE. That's all. He can't win this war without the U.S. Trump and Putin hold the cards. Without the U.S., Zelensky will lose Ukraine, unless he surrenders to Putin or fights alone and loses. He is a beggar and last time I checked, a beggar has no choice. There are several clips of him online begging that without the support of the U.S., his country is finished. Trump rightly captured the situation in the Oval office by saying the U.S. has made Zelensky a "strongman", hence he feels he can bite the finger that fed him.

Russian troll stop rambling. At first Trump did "gragra" and the US had a meeting without him. He told Trump that that meeting was useless. Trump invited him for a meeting and wanted to railroad him to selling out his country. Zelensky gave him a piece of his mind.

Since then you trolls have been out here trying to spread your propaganda.

I ask you again, if Trump and Putin hold all the cards why do they even need his signature? Let Trump go on and extract the resource let see Trump is not even half the man Zelensky is

BondRiv:
If I made a choice that resulted in someone winning and holding control over a government, then it means I know what I'm doing. That is what politics is about. Nigerians should be proud to discuss politics anywhere in the world. Clearly you don't know anything about politics.

Ooh sweet summer child

log1:
Please don’t spread false news, don’t fabricate data to buttress your opinion. See attached image, the source is from the state govt

Those are paid Russian trolls unfortunately nairaland doesn't want to fish them out. They are bots go to other international sites and see how the admin are fishing out those bots

Emeskhalifa:
How will he pay back what America has given him? Abi you think there is free money anywhere in this world?

Payback is not the problem, but the deal must be fair......

The Bible clearly states that the borrower is servant to the lender. This is a pure case of it.

Don't sell your birthright over porriage.

Nothing is actually ever free.

America has sponsored Ukraine war against Russia and now, thry are at their mercy.

A real lesson for everyone.

LegacyB:
Can JD Vance speak to Putin the way he spoke to Zelenskyy? Only those with low IQ would not know that trump has no respect for Ukraine 🇺🇦. But he can’t mess with Russia. You are 100 percent correct Trump is just a bully…

Akpesku:
You people just talk without fàct.The only weapon not yet used by Russia on Ukraine is nuke yet can not defeat Ukraine. Why do you now think they could defeat UK/France? let alone both combined before other Europe support. Russia has 5000+ war head, UK and France have 600+ combined. Only 40 could cripple Russia, so it's not matter of how many but how strategic. Which base Russia get apart from Belarus and some new ones in some Africa countries? So, where will they fire from? Go and ask of UK marine and marine nuke? For USA you always praise, tell me one war won by them without activating article 5 of NATO, calling for supports from allies? They nor dey war yet planes dey crash pass people in war! Food for thought. You will see what will come out from this Sunday London meeting.

very myopic. You think it is by having military bases across the globe? When you can launch from submarines, land and warships. Only few countries have that capability and Russia is one of them. Read more on the Russian nuclear triad...

Akpesku:
You people just talk without fàct.The only weapon not yet used by Russia on Ukraine is nuke yet can not defeat Ukraine. Why do you now think they could defeat UK/France? let alone both combined before other Europe support. Russia has 5000+ war head, UK and France have 600+ combined. Only 40 could cripple Russia, so it's not matter of how many but how strategic. Which base Russia get apart from Belarus and some new ones in some Africa countries? So, where will they fire from? Go and ask of UK marine and marine nuke? For USA you always praise, tell me one war won by them without activating article 5 of NATO, calling for supports from allies? They nor dey war yet planes dey crash pass people in war! Food for thought. You will see what will come out from this Sunday London meeting.

when you are done reading on Russian nuclear triad, also read on Russian dead hand

pansophist:
Oh, you are talking about weak countries. Suffering is their fate by default.

Russia is a giant, a strong civilisations at least a thousand year old, it is not a pushover, never being colonised, has nukes, a permanent member of UNSC, world largest country, and has Putin.

You cant expect the Afganistan treatment against Russia, do you? In the rule base order, only strength is respected, not sovereignty.

Weak countries like Nigeria and other African countries who japa to western countries instead of fixing our countries into productive, prosperous, strong nations of widespread welfare

anonimi:
Neo-black Problem: Must Blacks Be Ruled by Whites in Order to Prosper?

In short, the neo-black dilemma may be framed as follows: is it better to live under white rule without political dignity but with basic life-sustaining standards for many;

or to live under black rule with illusory political dignity and without basic life- sustaining standards for the majority?
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The path forward for Africa lies in cultivating higher and adequate levels of personal and communal agential integrity as well as full personal responsibility and productivity. Not to mention creativity (including epistemic creativity), productive justice (such as merit and freedom), harmony and reconciliation at local and international levels, and a proper domestication of capitalism and other related values and institutions.

Africa must stop wasting her time on dreams of socialism because it is a system of wealth distribution primarily. Whereas, capitalism is a system of wealth creation primarily, and wealth has to be produced before it can be distributed.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/10/12/neo-black-problem-must-blacks-be-ruled-by-whites-in-order-to-prosper/

janeedema:
The Bible clearly states that the borrower is servant to the lender. This is a pure case of it.

Don't sell your birthright over porriage.

Nothing is actually ever free.

America has sponsored Ukraine war against Russia and now, thry are at their mercy.

A real lesson for everyone.

You have said it all but will we ever work on the lessons

Those of us who are selling ourselves voluntarily to oyinbos to make them even richer and better than us, unlike the millions we raided, captured and sold as slaves to Arabs and whites. So sad that when oyinbos changed their minds, we insisted on continuing with the heinous crime.

anonimi:
The often cited biography titled Madame Tinubu: Merchant and King-maker, authored by Nigerian historian Oladipo Yemitan, paints her views regarding slave trading.

On one occasion, during her final sojourn in Abeokuta, she was alleged to have sold a young boy into slavery and was accused of it. When arraigned before Ogundipe Alatise over the matter, she reportedly explained: 'I have a large house-hold and I must feed them well. I need money to do that, that's why'.

— Oladipo. Yemitan, 'Madame Tinubu: Merchant and King-maker'

Another section of Yemitan's Tinubu biography, referred to as the Amadie-Ojo Affair, captures a slave trading deal gone sour in 1853 (notably after the 1852 Treaty abolishing slavery in Lagos) wherein Tinubu tells another slave trader (Domingo Martinez) that "she would rather drown the slaves [20 in number] than sell them at a discount".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efunroye_Tinubu

When you stand with others to fight your brother over stupidity that's what happens..

The same EU that have not accepted Ukraine into EU is the same EU trying to fight a proxy war for Ukraine.
In this life you pick your battles wisely..

Trump is trying to avoid WIII but Zelensky a comedian wants to drag the world into a another World War.

Arapmoi22:
ZELENSKY IS A FOOLISH COMEDIAN.

His decision to allow Biden used him as a pun for political vendetta has come back to hunt him.

He is a baby and not a man. That is why he deserves the babyish treatment he received today.

A FOOL has been placed where he belonged.

He will learn the hard way.

dru23:
Anybody that thinks Nigeria will get better.. is an idiot

Because Ukraine cannot defeat Russia? 🤣🤣🤣

Why not get enlisted into the Ukrainian army since you love them (Ukrainians) so much?

epainos:
I feel for Zelensky. I learned a long time ago not to talk when the cards aren't favoring me. Also, to be extremely careful when the resources I am using to execute a project aren't mine. This is a sad day for the guy, and the worst thing is that they will force him to conduct a fast election which Moscow will interfere and sponsor their own person. This is a tough case to judge honestly.

Let's look at the US case too...how many Nigerians feed others and don't behave like their god? Honestly, the US has tried too for Ukraine. If not for the US, Ukraine wouldn't have done anything. OK...why can't EU sponsor the war as soon as Trump stopped. They continue to meet, but no one wants to drop money. Lol. Money that is more than the GDP of some nations, the US has spent on this war.

Personally, I have nothing to say, but I learned more. The rich is powerful, and they always win. With all sanctions on Russia, they survived it. It is good to be self sustained. Just look at Palestine too. They had the land for many years and refused to develop it. See...if one of these nations invade Nigeria, it is all over. The rich will win. Period! This is the story of the unprofitable servant. When you have a gift and cannot make use of it, someone else will take over from you. Palestine has been there doing nothing much to develop the land. If they had developed everything, would Israel even have any land to claim? And you will see how quickly Israel and the United States work to rebuild Gaza after it was destroyed. After reconstructing everything, that's it. Palestine has lost everything in Gaza.

But mark my words: Ukraine will start it's nuclear weapon again if they get some things right fast. Just mark my words. The cards on table now is for Zelensky to return home and prepare to win another election, or have his person there. Then, they should start exporting grains again, and from there. They should make money with their minerals too, and then develop their nuclear weapon and build another strong army. It is not easy, but Ukraine can still pull it off. But if Putin should successfully put his person there, it is all over for Ukraine. Even Zelensky should run away and take asylum in EU.

Advice for everyone: it is not too late to make money even you are 70. If it's 10 years left for you, enjoy it while you are self sustained. Live a self sustained life so that no one can talk to you anyhow. And do not start any project you will ask people to help you complete. Also, pray to God to keep you from situations that will take away your stored resources. It is well.

In this world don't allow anyone influence u to pick a fight u can't win on your own.

Don't allow outsiders make u fight your brother over trivial issue cos sooner they will abandon you..

Pick peace and embarrassment over pride and destruction..

Ukraine needs to accept whatever embarrassment for peace to reign.

EU was just using Ukraine for cheap political stunt.
Eu is still buying Russian gas up till now.

Sadly Ukraine is not still part of EU because they don't want a direct confrontation with Russia

In this world the rich and powerful will always align together no matter how quarelsome they appear in public..

jomarick:
Russia attacked a sovereign nation for no reason, it's alarming that people has forgotten this fact.

Ukraine started the war. Go back to the beginning. The war didn't start with the full Russian invasion it started when Zelenskky ordered the killing of harmless civilians with Russian ties. All Russia wanted was guarantee that ukraine wi not join NATO and for the killings around the Russian speaking regions to stop. Reply to my post after doing your research.

Nobody is even talking about the below article. Ukraine giving its nuclear weapon to Russia is a great mistake. This is why I am beginning to love Iran and North Korea. Built your nuke and I build mine. Nuke me, I nuke you, God no go vex.

In 1994, Ukraine agreed to give up its nuclear weapons and join the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) as a non-nuclear-weapon state. This decision was part of the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances, in which Ukraine transferred its nuclear weapons to Russia for dismantling. In return, Ukraine received security assurances from the United States, the United Kingdom, and Russia, which promised to respect Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity.

By 1996, Ukraine had transferred all of its nuclear warheads to Russia, and by 2001, it had dismantled all of its strategic bombers and missile silos. Since then, Ukraine has been a non-nuclear-weapon state. The decision to denuclearize was influenced by a combination of factors, including the desire for better relations with the West, the high costs of maintaining and securing the nuclear arsenal, and the technical and operational control of the weapons being largely in Russian hands.

justmondris:
America does not have the right to demand for the money because they gave him aids and not loans. They started and funded the war so that they can take ownership of Ukraine's resources. This has been the plan right from the very first day

There are several videos on the internet of zelensky pleading for a loan from the US not grant. He is now saying it is a grant

justmondris:
They gave Ukraine aids and not loans. You don't payback aids

Trump is arguing that it is a loan and must be paid back

Gerrard59:
Bros, there are MILLIONS of people who hold staunchly to that belief. I want to see them cry in sifia pains when this is all over. They believe Ukraine would defeat Russia! Dunderheads everywhere!

Ukraine will crush Russia

netmillionaires:
Nobody is even talking about the below article. Ukraine giving its nuclear weapon to Russia is a great mistake. This is why I am beginning to love Iran and North Korea. Built your nuke and I build mine. Nuke me, I nuke you, God no go vex.

In 1994, Ukraine agreed to give up its nuclear weapons and join the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) as a non-nuclear-weapon state. This decision was part of the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances, in which Ukraine transferred its nuclear weapons to Russia for dismantling. In return, Ukraine received security assurances from the United States, the United Kingdom, and Russia, which promised to respect Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity.

By 1996, Ukraine had transferred all of its nuclear warheads to Russia, and by 2001, it had dismantled all of its strategic bombers and missile silos. Since then, Ukraine has been a non-nuclear-weapon state. The decision to denuclearize was influenced by a combination of factors, including the desire for better relations with the West, the high costs of maintaining and securing the nuclear arsenal, and the technical and operational control of the weapons being largely in Russian hands.

Ukraine did not and does not have the capacity to build nuclear weapons. All they had were soviet-era weapons which Russia took over as part of the agreement for Ukraine to have a separate government.

Quelme:
when you are done reading on Russian nuclear triad, also read on Russian dead hand

and you think there are no counters to this so-called dead hand. Russia has nothing. It's all hype

dru23:
With your mindset. I truly believe Nigerians deserve the leadership they get..

I use to blame the Northerners for Nigerians problems. But I realized that the Northerns are not the problem, but the cowardnice of its people that refuse to fight

So want Ukraine to just give up and not fight. Trump wants Ukraine minerals in exchange for nothing. This is extortion to the highest degree. And you support..

What about billions of dollars Israel gets from the USA. What does USA gets in return. You are as stupid as the people that rule you .. poverty kill u dere

When you see ppl insulting others it simply shows they don't have enough point to back their arguement thereby masking it with insults, behave like a civilised adult.
That said, I can give my money to person A for free and decide not to give person B for free.
You said he wants Ukraine to give up it's minerals for free? So the 350b to 500b US spent on them doesn't count?

If zelensky is not ok with Trump's demands he should then go and carry on with his war without more support from the US, it is very simple.
I don't see what Trump is doing bad here, if you don't agree to my terms then you can go and do it your own way

dru23:
Again if our forefathers and fathers fought for a better Nigeria. We will not be in poverty today..

MkO Abiloa fought and died for Nigeria. Only if everyone else were willing to fight along with him. MKO could have given up long time . But he was willing to die for a better Nigeria.....

But you on the other hand rather make peace with the oppressor. But you still living in poverty.....


Nigeria will never get better until people are ready to die.. Ukraine is fighting for their future and future of their loves 1 ....

lol MKO was fighting for his pocket. I don't understand how a lot of us still think our popular nigerian politicians give a damn about us. Do you know how many of them have personal investments outside this country with money that should have been used to build the nation?

abeg, miss me with that Abiola shit