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Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by Mccollins042(m): 9:28am On Mar 01, 2025
Lexusgs430:
How would trump feel, if Tinubu and his army, took over 20% of America... And Macron his bullying trump to accept a useless peace agreement....... 🤣😂✌️
He is telling him that because that's the best he can get now, emotions aside, he miscalculated by going to that war listening to Biden and EU leaders now e don red. He can't get that territories back, US has a new government and they aren't ready to throw their billions into that bottomless pit, EU alone can't fund it and with those support alone Ukraine can't win that war.
Zelensky should count his losses and agree to a peace deal
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by Mccollins042(m): 9:34am On Mar 01, 2025
MT:
It does not work that way in international circle

These are leaders of countries, don’t compare it to your behaviour as individuals.

Vance was trying to impress Trump and appeared tough. He should have left the discussion to the leaders of their respective countries

Vance was plain dumb and disrespectful.
He wasn't, zelensky thinks stupid people are still in the oval office. The war is over, it is obvious you can't win that war, a war that Trump warned u against, the ppl that egged u on are no more in power and he thinks Trump will still agree to fund that war? .
The only thing left for zelensky is to pay US what he owes them and move on
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by aribisala0(m): 9:38am On Mar 01, 2025
Lexusgs430:
Payback is not the problem, but the deal must be fair......
Deal must be fair?
If only you spend your time talking about fairness for African countries

You are so knowlegeable on things that don't concern you and totally clueless about your own issues

Africa has the most resources and live in overwhelming poverty do you question the fairness of the deals that cement the slavery of African nations ?
Niger sold Uranium to France for DECADES getting less than 5% of the proceeds
Nigeria today sells gas to Europe as LNG and think it is a good deal to build a pipeline across the Sahara but we have no electricity and our people cook with Kerosene.

When any leaders emerge that question it like Thomas Sankara they kill them or overthrow them

How is Nigeria different from Venezuelahuh

Venezuela is under full sanctions but Nigeria is not. Because our leaders do as they are told

Trust me they speak to them a lot worse than they did to Zelensky only it is not in front of TV
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by Kaiser20: 9:45am On Mar 01, 2025
Lordbinsmar:
grin

Western powers don scam Ukraine ooo
Ukraine don Join African Nations among the people the West Scammed
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by Pootle: 9:47am On Mar 01, 2025
bennybuhari:
He wants peace but show his office and the people of Ukraine some respect. He is president for God's sake. Why allow Vance to speak to him that way?
trump and vance messed up, talking to a president like that is a no no....i wish this war escalate Ukrainians dont deserve this
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by Arapmoi22:
dru23:
Again if our forefathers and fathers fought for a better Nigeria. We will not be in poverty today..

MkO Abiloa fought and died for Nigeria. Only if everyone else were willing to fight along with him. MKO could have given up long time . But he was willing to die for a better Nigeria.....

But you on the other hand rather make peace with the oppressor. But you still living in poverty.....


Nigeria will never get better until people are ready to die.. Ukraine is fighting for their future and future of their loves 1 ....
Ukraine had been on her knees begging from house to house since 2022.

Zelensky is a great conman at blackmailing people to get alms.

He is a selective beggar.

And US no longer want to heed his calls of dictating to the giver the type and denominations of dollar notes he wants.

If zele is man enough, he should make his own world press conference and damn usa 🇺🇸. Tell them they are irrelevant.

Assure Ukrainians that the same catapult that killed goliath can be used to win the war. Miracle still do happen now.

No one comes to me for helps get good results trying to blackmail me into such. Fa fa fa foul.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by agabusta: 10:32am On Mar 01, 2025
God1000:
Donald trump should go to hell, he's a big embarrassment and a disgrace to his office, you don't talk to another president that way

I have never seen a President act so disrespectful to a President of another country in my life. zelensky should have walked out on him.

Trump is a vile bully, his behaviour was appalling, Zelenskyy has shown strength and dignity that trump could only dream of
Both of them were disrespectful. Zelensky as well. How can you be telling your benefactor that something may happen to them in the future??

How can you sit with your benefactor who rendered help that kept you afloat and tell him to his face that you have been alone from the beginning? Is that not the highest level of arrogance?
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by agabusta: 10:42am On Mar 01, 2025
LegacyB:
Can JD Vance speak to Putin the way he spoke to Zelenskyy? Only those with low IQ would not know that trump has no respect for Ukraine 🇺🇦. But he can’t mess with Russia. You are 100 percent correct Trump is just a bully…
Is Ukraine on same level as Russia?? What are you saying?

Even in the olden days, there are kings and there are kings.

There is a reason why there are only 5 permanent countries in the UN security council and each with veto power. If the world is fair, why can't all countries be there each with veto power??

It look unfair, but we must come to the realization that the world is not a fair place. Nature is not a fair place. The strongest and most advantaged will always have their way. Even in the wild, it is like that.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by agabusta:
Mathewrichard99:
Exactly, how can Trump and Vance cornered him into a position of a weakling just to gain the right to commence milking Ukraine by mining of their rare minerals by the US. He only ask for the guarantee of Security even after signing the deal, this is the question that Trump and his lap dog Vance can't guarantee. Ukrainean President even told them that even when there's an assumed peace, the guarantee of security in Ukraine by the US is still needed and the security is inclusive of keeping or rather returning all Ukraine States been occupied by the Russians presently and also repatriation of over 30 children stolen by Russia from Ukraine during Invasion. These children's name has been changed to Russian names and already made to learn and be fluent in Russian language but the good thing is that, you can't erase the memories of their fatherland.
And Russia will simply agree to this?? Because the US is their big Boss??

What you are saying in essence is that the US should go into war to defeat Russia on behalf of Ukraine. In essence, 3rd world war.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by chimex38: 10:53am On Mar 01, 2025
bennybuhari:
He wants peace but show his office and the people of Ukraine some respect. He is president for God's sake. Why allow Vance to speak to him that way?
Exactly my thought..
Zelenskky might have over reached with the exchange of words at the same time..
I would have condemned him if this was a private meeting. Diplomacy is king!

But him/his country was being talked down on blatantly ON AIR.. and he is supposed to be the No. 1 citizen and Sovereign defendant of the Republic.
What do they expect?

Trump was even more fair and diplomatic as a mediator.

VP- Vance erupted the attack a bit and he has to defend his country and not keep mute especially ON AIR.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by Mathewrichard99:
I quite understand your point. It's not that I am supporting the US to agree to the security guarantee..... ofcourse that's a big height to climb as a mediator to the crises. If you had listen to Zelensky very well, he told Trump that the sudden invasion by Russia has been very consistent even before the war. He sited instance before he became the President when the agreement by the US and Ukraine in regards to Crimea territory of Ukraine to be in full control of Ukraine. Do you know that Russia reneged on that agreement and went forcefully killing people to take control of Crimea ....that's just an example of the Russia atrocious action towards Ukraine. Zelensky was only trying to get the full clarification of what he's signing into and what he's going to gain and loose ... He doesn't care much as he giving away the rare minerals to the US but looking at the solution and prevention of further future attack on Ukraine even while US is mining their rare minerals. It's not a big thing to request from the almighty Mediator "US" but the US knows that Russia will never accept such........Russia believe that they are more superior to Ukraine and Ukraine is still more of a state within the Russia federation. Putin had even blamed the past leaders that gave liberation to other countries that emanated from USSR in one interview. He dislike the fact that those countries are independent and should be allowed to do whatever that suit them ..... Perestroika is the word I wanted to remember....just came to my memory now.........

However, US leadership portray a bad image of themselves as brutal, merciless and very low in diplomatic solution to the problem of the world. I will suggest if they ask me, Zelensky has laid down his request to the Mediator almighty US, it's not the right of the US Trump and Vance to now force him to agree to anything. He has his own decision to make which I know he does with other members of the Ukrainean council.

Trump was only trying to show the world that I am a champion, if I say something, I do it immediately, trying to portray Biden government as weakling and stupid cos he has said it severally even said it yesterday while talking with Zelensky.

It takes days, months, years to plan for war, therefore, you shouldn't espect the war to be settled within an hour as Trump just did..

Zelensky needs time to plan, deliberate with the council and agreed or disagree over something. It should be an ongoing decision for now and not an immediate solution as being expected by Proud man Trump.....Ego should left out of the deal now.....imagine the stupid Vance talking carelessly and going petty that Zelensky came to US last November and even campaigned for the previous government. Shame to Trump and Vance....We really have a big baby dogs on the loose in America.....


agabusta:
And Russia will simply agree to this?? Because the US is their big Boss??

What you are saying in essence is that the US should go into war to defeat on Russia on behalf of Ukraine. In essence, 3rd world war.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by Juju70(m): 11:19am On Mar 01, 2025
givedemwotowoto:
I just posted about this. Zelensky is finished! Zero diplomacy and respect for America!

You don't come to American soil on the oval office in front of cameras and exchange words with the president of the US, and threaten American taxpayers who have financed a war in which he didn't stand a chance against Russia.

https://www.nairaland.com/8354932/watch-exchange-trump-vance-zelensky
oga becos you wan chop suya no mean say you go call nama brother!
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by Juju70(m): 11:28am On Mar 01, 2025
to all those calling zely foolish i have this to say for the record. you have never been in a position that requires responsibility! those guys would have parked him under the bus if he signed that document, they just wanted him to sign and discredit him so he will resign! there would have been chaos. whether you like it or not WW3 will happen whether now tomorrow or whenever! do you think people are acquiring weapons to decorate their warehousehuh things are happening and you in Africa are left far behind! there is going to be a second conference where dem go divide africa again! how prepared are Africans and their leaders to safeguard themselves! Africa still has the resources and you can see how wickedly vigorous they are going after ukraine and greenland. if e happen today say dem recolonize africa are we prepared to defend ourselves?? Africa are we preparedhuh??abi una think say e no fit happen??
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by Arapmoi22: 11:29am On Mar 01, 2025
Juju70:
oga becos you wan chop suya no mean say you go call nama brother!
But nama can continue to die in order to make Zelensky get spiced suya abi?

There is no father Christmas anywhere.
The comedian should go win his war with comedy.

The enemies will laugh and run away.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by Codes151(m): 11:29am On Mar 01, 2025
TheBillyonaire:
That was shameful to watch.

Zelensky needs to stand his ground and not cede any resources to USA. They funded that war just to launder money back to themselves, now Ukraine has to lose more lands and resources for both USA and Russia?
He is a clown and was a clown.
They say, if you want to dine with the devil., use a long spoon.

Also, the devil you know is better that the angel you don’t.

There was nothing wrong with Ukraine, they allowed Obama, Clinton to deceive them. How would USA have felt if Mexico wanted Russia base?

This clown was just stupid!! Russians are also some indigenous Ukrainians.


All this atrocities by Obama n same in nigeria in 2015. Look at us now.


This fool just embarrassed himself and Ukraine.
Wetin trump do am na the final finishing.
It’s so shameful.
Ukraine president just showed the world that indeed he’s a clown.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by Juju70(m): 11:30am On Mar 01, 2025
Mathewrichard99:
I quite understand your point. It's not that I am supporting the US to agree to the security guarantee..... ofcourse that's a big height to climb as a mediator to the crises. If you had listen to Zelensky very well, he told Trump that the sudden invasion by Russia has been very consistent even before the war. He sited instance before he became the President when the agreement by the US and Ukraine in regards to Crimea territory of Ukraine to be in full control of Ukraine. Do you know that Russia reneged on that agreement and went forcefully killing people to take control of Crimea ....that's just an example of the Russia atrocious action towards Ukraine. Zelensky was only trying to get the full clarification of what he's signing into and what he's going to gain and loose ... He doesn't care much as he giving away the rare minerals to the US but looking at the solution and prevention of further future attack on Ukraine even while US is mining their rare minerals. It's not a big thing to request from the almighty Mediator "US" but the US knows that Russia will never accept such........Russia believe that they are more superior to Ukraine and Ukraine is still more of a state within the Russia federation. Putin had even blamed the past leaders that gave liberation to other countries that emanated from USSR in one interview. He dislike the fact that those countries are independent and should be allowed to do whatever that suit them ..... Perestroika is the word I wanted to remember....just came to my memory now.........

However, US leadership portray a bad image of themselves as brutal, merciless and very low in diplomatic solution to the problem of the world. I will suggest if they ask me, Zelensky has laid down his request to the Mediator almighty US, it's not the right of the US Trump and Vance to now force him to agree to anything. He has his own decision to make which I know he does with other members of the Ukrainean council.

Trump was only trying to show the world that I am a champion, if I say something, I do it immediately, trying to portray Biden government as weakling and stupid cos he has said it severally even said it yesterday while talking with Zelensky.

It takes days, months, years to plan for war, therefore, you shouldn't espect the war to be settled within an hour as Trump just did..
thank you jare
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by Juju70(m): 11:33am On Mar 01, 2025
Arapmoi22:
But nama can continue to die in order to make Zelensky get spiced suya abi?

There is no father Christmas anywhere.
The comedian should go win his war with comedy.

The enemies will laugh and run away.
Almighty jah go save am nor worry!! we go see who laugh last! the best thing he did was not to sign that document!
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by TheBillyonaire: 11:43am On Mar 01, 2025
Codes151:
He is a clown and was a clown.
They say, if you want to dine with the devil., use a long spoon.

Also, the devil you know is better that the angel you don’t.

There was nothing wrong with Ukraine, they allowed Obama, Clinton to deceive them. How would USA have felt if Mexico wanted Russia base?

This clown was just stupid!! Russians are also some indigenous Ukrainians.


All this atrocities by Obama n same in nigeria in 2015. Look at us now.


This fool just embarrassed himself and Ukraine.
Wetin trump do am na the final finishing.
It’s so shameful.
Ukraine president just showed the world that indeed he’s a clown.
While you have said about Ukraine is accurate, what do you have to say America's childish approach to negotiations.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by Codes151(m): 12:32pm On Mar 01, 2025
TheBillyonaire:
While you have said about Ukraine is accurate, what do you have to say America's childish approach to negotiations.
if I was USA president I’d do the same.
Put my country first.

Collect all their resources.
Listen, even in nigeria, they took n still take billions in oil. Millions daily.
It’s normal.


They will sign off their minerals to USA.

He was just foolish.
Obama n Clinton deceived hom
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by TheBillyonaire: 12:41pm On Mar 01, 2025
Codes151:
if I was USA president I’d do the same.
Put my country first.

Collect all their resources.
Listen, even in nigeria, they took n still take billions in oil. Millions daily.
It’s normal.


They will sign off their minerals to USA.

He was just foolish.
Obama n Clinton deceived hom
Was difficult to watch. Amazingly, Zelensky did not sign that deal. It is a bad deal.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by Arapmoi22: 12:48pm On Mar 01, 2025
Juju70:
Almighty jah go save am nor worry!! we go see who laugh last! the best thing he did was not to sign that document!
Ukraine without support from USA can't survive Russia.

Russia is still advancing on daily basis with US weapon in Ukraine's hands.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by Codes151(m): 12:48pm On Mar 01, 2025
TheBillyonaire:
Was difficult to watch. Amazingly, Zelensky did not sign that deal. It is a bad deal.
very bad.
But he will sign.

You will see.

They guy got played badly
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by MERCHANDISER: 12:53pm On Mar 01, 2025
agabusta:
Both of them were disrespectful. Zelensky as well. How can you be telling your benefactor that something may happen to them in the future??

How can you sit with your benefactor who rendered help that kept you afloat and tell him to his face that you have been alone from the beginning? Is that not the highest level of arrogance?
Bro isn't wise...if he negotiate with Putin,he can even help him win his re-election and rebuild Ukraine with the help of China cheesy
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by MERCHANDISER: 12:57pm On Mar 01, 2025
Juju70:
to all those calling zely foolish i have this to say for the record. you have never been in a position that requires responsibility! those guys would have parked him under the bus if he signed that document, they just wanted him to sign and discredit him so he will resign! there would have been chaos. whether you like it or not WW3 will happen whether now tomorrow or whenever! do you think people are acquiring weapons to decorate their warehousehuh things are happening and you in Africa are left far behind! there is going to be a second conference where dem go divide africa again! how prepared are Africans and their leaders to safeguard themselves! Africa still has the resources and you can see how wickedly vigorous they are going after ukraine and greenland. if e happen today say dem recolonize africa are we prepared to defend ourselves?? Africa are we preparedhuh??abi una think say e no fit happen??
Bro there's no free money anywhere...USA provided with with military, financially and diplomatic support during Biden era now they have to pay back....

Do you think all the military wares Nigeria is getting is for free? cheesy

I don't really know how you guys reason, pathetic!
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by Juju70(m): 1:37pm On Mar 01, 2025
MERCHANDISER:
Bro there's no free money anywhere...USA provided with with military, financially and diplomatic support during Biden era now they have to pay back....

Do you think all the military wares Nigeria is getting is for free? cheesy

I don't really know how you guys reason, pathetic!
read what i wrote and comprehend! fair deal thats all he's asking! he's ready for peace but with guarantees for security! they are not like you guys who can sign out your people for loans and pay for generations to come!
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by justmondris: 1:40pm On Mar 01, 2025
Mccollins042:
Trump is arguing that it is a loan and must be paid back
I have done my findings and I found out that countries at war usually pay back such aids after the war. Even Russia and UK has finished paying the aids they were giving during world war one and 2 few years ago. I don't know the actual agreement of the aids and if Ukraine were told that they will pay it back. However, for the way Ukraine president was always crying for more aids, it looks like free money.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by Scottighoteguon: 1:56pm On Mar 01, 2025
meobizy:
I respect him if this is true. Let the war end on the battleground instead. Peace talks are for the weak.
So you want all of Ukraine to fall....just so you know...Europe can't defend Ukraine without the US...Russia is a big fish and only superpowers like the US or China can stop them

This war needs to end no matter the cost
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by Scottighoteguon: 1:58pm On Mar 01, 2025
OgaTheTop2:
It's not about bully, it's about common sense! Zelensky is becoming a leech on American taxpayers money. Zelensky is making money from the war, he doesn't want the war to end. Wonder why Trump called Biden 'stupid' in that meeting? Trump is right on this one....No more free money for Zelensky... Enough is enough!
The whole of Europe can't stand with Ukraine without the help of the Americans and they know this...Who would want to be invade next
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by hilaryCU(m): 1:59pm On Mar 01, 2025
Quelme:
Zelensky don put hand inside fire. We told the Idiot, you are desperately seeking to drag everybody into your senseless war!!!

Reality check by Trump... NATO knows that RUSSIA is the greatest war machine ever on the face of planet earth. Just 10% of their military holding NATO plus 30 countries to a standstill in Ukraine...


UK and France, two of the most over rated militaries who can't kill a fly without their US war partner in crime...
You are contradicting yourself. If UK and France can't kill a fly, it simply means that it is only USA that is fighting Russia in Ukraine then
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by Quelme: 2:24pm On Mar 01, 2025
hilaryCU:
You are contradicting yourself. If UK and France can't kill a fly, it simply means that it is only USA that is fighting Russia in Ukraine then
read to understand. Read again!!!
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by Quelme: 2:25pm On Mar 01, 2025
alphaNomega:
and you think there are no counters to this so-called dead hand. Russia has nothing. It's all hype
30 plus nation and you think its all hype. Okay o...
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by Arapmoi22: 2:37pm On Mar 01, 2025
Quelme:
read to understand. Read again!!!
They are too emotional to understand realities.

On Thursday, 27th Feb 2025, the UK prime minister was at the Oval office.

UK could not stand as a guarantor to Ukraine.
He only offered to provide peacekeeping men and hardwares if USA guarantee support.

All of Europe together are afraid of Russia.
Truly, they are not up to.
All within the reach of strikes from Russia.
All together doesn't have half of Russia Nuclear Warheads.

It is clear who the boss is.
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