I came across this conversation between a Muslim and a Christian

Muslim: You Christians you always claim to perform miracles and ask people to come and receive it
Christian: Yes, because their is power in the Name of Jesus

Muslim: That mean you can do anything with that name
Christian: Yes ooo

Muslim: Can you speak in tongue?
Christian: Yes of course

Muslim: Can you cast out devil in the name of Jesus?
Christian: Yes!!! When their is light, darkness will disappear

Muslim: Can you lay hands on the sick and he will become healed?
Christian: Yes!!! Their is power mighty in the blood of Jesus

Muslim: OK, can you drink Concentrated H2SO4 in the name of Jesus
Christian: Yes, Jesus said in the book of In Mark 16 vs 17 to 18
17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues;
18 they shall take up serpents, and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them. They shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.”

Muslim: To people around I beg give us battery water
People: Here is Conc HCL
Muslim: This is concentrated acid take it and drink it
Christian: Thou shall not tempt your God

Muslim and People around: Buhahahahahahahahahaahahaahahahahahahah Formula Doge it

Muslim: Can you ta up serpent?
Christian(Saw a great Anaconda among people): Thou shall not tempt your God
Muslims and People:

When are you people going to stop deceiving people with your lies and Hippocrates?

Bullcrap... So wahz interesting here nw

Mtcheeeeew

priscaoge:

Oga all those televised miracles and prophesy by your pastors should also be stopped. Let them perform the real one(drinking poison hugging transformer) else they are not going to be part of Jesus

Nonsense.

yazach:


Oga all those televised miracles and prophesy by your pastors should also be stopped. Let them perform the real one(drinking poison hugging transformer) else they are not going to be part of Jesus

Who is Oga?

LOL!

op.your Allah is weak.


Surah 8:65: “O Prophet! Rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers.” (Yusuf Ali)

allah prophecise in surah8:65 that twenty muslims will defected hundred unbelievers and a hundred muslims will defected a two thousand unbelievers.but the people complain to much and dosent trust allah prophecy,immediatly surah8:66 was reavel.


Surah 8:66: “For the present, Allah hath lightened your task, for He knoweth that there is a weak spot in you: But even so, if there are a hundred of you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred, and if a thousand, they will vanquish two thousand, with the leave of Allah: for Allah is with those who patiently persevere.” (Ibid)

allah know there is a weak spot in them yet he put a burden to them but when they complain,he reduce it from 20 to defect 100 and 100 to defect 1000 and he reduce it to 100 to defect 200 and 1000 to defect 2000.


Surah 8:66 was revealed a short time later after Muslims complained bitterly at the impossible odds they would have to encounter when
they engage their enemies in battles. Consider carefully the wordings
of these two Surahs. Surah 8:65 states, “If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers.” (A ratio of 1 to 10). And Surah 8:66 states, “…if there are a hundred of you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred, and if a thousand, they will vanquish two thousand.” (A ratio of 1 to 2).


Ishaq: 326: “Abdullah told me that when this verse came down it was a shock to the Muslims who took it hard. They were afraid, as the odds were too great. So Allah relieved them and cancelled the verse with another: ‘Now has Allah relieved you and He knows that
there is a weakness among you, so if there are 100 (rather than 20) they shall vanquish 200.’”


Sahih Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 176: Narrated Ibn Abbas: When the Verse: — ‘If there are twenty steadfast amongst you (Muslims), they will overcome two- hundred (non-Muslims).’ was revealed, it became hard on the Muslims when it became compulsory that one Muslim ought not to flee (in war) before ten (non-Muslims). So (Allah) lightened the order by revealing: ‘(But) now Allah has lightened your (task) for He knows that there
is weakness in you. So if there are of you one-hundred steadfast, they will overcome two-hundred (non-Muslims).’ (Surah 8:66) So when Allah reduced the number of enemies which Muslims should withstand, their patience and perseverance against the enemy decreased as much as their task was lightened for them.

QUSTION.
(1) Why did Almighty Allah’s prophecy in Surah 8:65 fail in its fulfillment? Does not this prove that Allah is incapable of seeing
through to the fulfillment of his prophecies? Does this not also prove that Allah cannot be the Almighty God as he claims to be? (2) Why did Allah abrogate his own prophecy and replace it with a contradictory prophecy? Does not the fact that Allah got his prophecy wrong the first time shows that he is learning by trial and error just like any imperfect human? Does not this also prove that
there is a failed prophecy in the Qur’an? Can a divine book contain a failed prophecy in it? (3) Since Allah abrogated his prophecy because of his warriors’ reluctance to fight against such odds, does not this prove that the fulfillment of Allah’s prophecy is dependent on the decisions of imperfect humans? How can the failings of humans to follow directions
result in the divine failure of the fulfillment of Allah’s prophecy? Can the Word of God fail? (4) Why did not Allah know that his warriors would be unable to cope
with the demand to defeat their enemies ten times their number? Is it
not so because Allah did not know the weakness of the Muslims? Why
did not Allah know their weakness just one verse away? Why did
Allah choose to lower the prophesized ratio from 1:10 to 1:2 instead of empowering his warriors with the needed strength and courage to
measure up to task as predicted in his divine prophecy? (5) If Allah does not know the present, can we trust him to know the future?

There are also other instances in the Qur’an that shows that Allah does
not know the outcome of the future with certainty. For example the
Qur’an declares in Surah 3:144: Muhammad is no more than a Messenger, and indeed many Messengers have passed away before him. If HE DIES OR IS KILLED, will you then turn back on your heels as disbelievers? And he who
turns back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to Allah, and
Allah will give reward to those who are grateful. (Hilali-Khan)

Muhammad was not only Allah’s greatest prophet but he was also his
final and favorite prophet. Yet, Allah was uncertain about the manner
of Muhammad’s death. The phrase, “If he dies or is killed” in Arabic is “Fa-in mata awo kutila.” This verse demonstrates that Allah did not know whether Muhammad will die a natural death (Mata) or be killed by someone (Kutila). Thus, Allah was unable to affirm the exact manner of Muhammad’s death. That is why there is not a single
prophecy in the Qur’an that details the manner of Muhammad’s death.

MUHAMA RDAD THE BIBLE WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING THE TEACHING,ALLAH PROPHECISE THE DEATH OF JESUS IN THE QURAN BECAUSE JESUS EXISTED BEFORE THE QURAN.BUT ALLAH DID NOT PROPHECISE THE DEATH OF MUHAMMAD,WHOM MUSLIMS CLAIM HE IS THE GRDATEST PROPHET.

malvisguy212:


MUHAMA RDAD THE BIBLE WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING THE TEACHING,ALLAH PROPHECISE THE DEATH OF JESUS IN THE QURAN BECAUSE JESUS EXISTED BEFORE THE QURAN.BUT ALLAH DID NOT PROPHECISE THE DEATH OF MUHAMMAD,WHOM MUSLIMS CLAIM HE IS THE GRDATEST PROPHET.

which sura pls

malvisguy212:
There are also other instances in the Qur’an that shows that Allah does
not know the outcome of the future with certainty. For example the
Qur’an declares in Surah 3:144: Muhammad is no more than a Messenger, and indeed many Messengers have passed away before him. If HE DIES OR IS KILLED, will you then turn back on your heels as disbelievers? And he who
turns back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to Allah, and
Allah will give reward to those who are grateful. (Hilali-Khan)

Muhammad was not only Allah’s greatest prophet but he was also his
final and favorite prophet. Yet, Allah was uncertain about the manner
of Muhammad’s death. The phrase, “If he dies or is killed” in Arabic is “Fa-in mata awo kutila.” This verse demonstrates that Allah did not know whether Muhammad will die a natural death (Mata) or be killed by someone (Kutila). Thus, Allah was unable to affirm the exact manner of Muhammad’s death. That is why there is not a single
prophecy in the Qur’an that details the manner of Muhammad’s death.

MUHAMA RDAD THE BIBLE WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING THE TEACHING,ALLAH PROPHECISE THE DEATH OF JESUS IN THE QURAN BECAUSE JESUS EXISTED BEFORE THE QURAN.BUT ALLAH DID NOT PROPHECISE THE DEATH OF MUHAMMAD,WHOM MUSLIMS CLAIM HE IS THE GRDATEST PROPHET.

The Prophet Muhammad(SAW) prophecised his death many times in the hadith.

tartar9:
The Prophet Muhammad(SAW) prophecised his death many times in the hadith.

the hadith were not the word of Allah or muhammd,is the word of men who are closer to muhammad,they are not even a prophet or apostle,how sure can we trust the hadith? Even muslims dont trust the hadith.

hisblud:
which sura pls

Surah 19:15: And peace on him on the day he was born, and on the day he dies, and on the day he is raised to life. (Shakir)

Allah even went all the way by prophecise he will be raise alive.

malvisguy212:
Surah 19:15: And peace on him on the day he was born, and on the day he dies, and on the day he is raised to life. (Shakir)

Allah even went all the way by prophecise he will be raise alive.

Thanks

malvisguy212:
the hadith were not the word of Allah or muhammd,is the word of men who are closer to muhammad,they are not even a prophet or apostle,how sure can we trust the hadith? Even muslims dont trust the hadith.

the Quran was not the only source of revelation to the prophet(SAW),thou it is the highest form of revelation being the verbatim word of Alllah(SA).the Quran isn't about Muhammad(SA),it mentions his name only five times.there are even some verses that point to the end of his mission in the Quran and this is the last revelation of the Holy Quran"This day
have those who disbelieve despaired of
your religion, so fear them not, and fear
Me. This day have I perfected for you
your religion and completed My favor on
you and chosen for you Islam as a
religion"so even the last revealed verse in the Holy Quran is about Allah's completion of his mission.as for the hadiths,they are the narrations of his closest and trusted companions of what he said and did,just like the gospels thou they are mostly short statements.and there are over a million of these hadiths which is impossible for it to happen in the lifetime of one man so obviously,many are interpolations,additions and even outright fabrication.but the scholars have gone through painstakingly efforts to classify each hadiths based on their veracity,some are classified as sound,weak,false etc.Muslims will follow and use the ones in which there is no doubt about their veracity and which doesnt contradicts the Quran.

tartar9:
the Quran was not the only source of revelation to the prophet(SAW),thou it is the highest form of revelation being the verbatim word of Alllah(SA).

this caught my attention. Pls not to digress the topic, pls apart from koran and hadith, which 'other' is the revelation of allah?

tartar9:
the Quran was not the only source of revelation to the prophet(SAW),thou it is the highest form of revelation being the verbatim word of Alllah(SA).the Quran isn't about Muhammad(SA),it mentions his name only five times.there are even some verses that point to the end of his mission in the Quran and this is the last revelation of the Holy Quran"This day
have those who disbelieve despaired of
your religion, so fear them not, and fear
Me. This day have I perfected for you
your religion and completed My favor on
you and chosen for you Islam as a
religion"so even the last revealed verse in the Holy Quran is about Allah's completion of his mission.as for the hadiths,they are the narrations of his closest and trusted companions of what he said and did,just like the gospels thou they are mostly short statements.and there are over a million of these hadiths which is impossible for it to happen in the lifetime of one man so obviously,many are interpolations,additions and even outright fabrication.but the scholars have gone through painstakingly efforts to classify each hadiths based on their veracity,some are classified as sound,weak,false etc.Muslims will follow and use the ones in which there is no doubt about their veracity and which doesnt contradicts the Quran.

if the quran is not only the source of revelation to muhammd,can you tell me the other source.?

You realy need to ask your self this,religeon that allah chose from the beginning,what is there to be perfected? This is serious.

priscaoge:


Who is Oga?

You of course, look, it is not the one at the top o but at the bottom

malvisguy212:
op.[s]your Allah is weak.


Surah 8:65: “O Prophet! Rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers.” (Yusuf Ali)

allah prophecise in surah8:65 that twenty muslims will defected hundred unbelievers and a hundred muslims will defected a two thousand unbelievers.but the people complain to much and dosent trust allah prophecy,immediatly surah8:66 was reavel.


Surah 8:66: “For the present, Allah hath lightened your task, for He knoweth that there is a weak spot in you: But even so, if there are a hundred of you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred, and if a thousand, they will vanquish two thousand, with the leave of Allah: for Allah is with those who patiently persevere.” (Ibid)

allah know there is a weak spot in them yet he put a burden to them but when they complain,he reduce it from 20 to defect 100 and 100 to defect 1000 and he reduce it to 100 to defect 200 and 1000 to defect 2000.


Surah 8:66 was revealed a short time later after Muslims complained bitterly at the impossible odds they would have to encounter when
they engage their enemies in battles. Consider carefully the wordings
of these two Surahs. Surah 8:65 states, “If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers.” (A ratio of 1 to 10). And Surah 8:66 states, “…if there are a hundred of you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred, and if a thousand, they will vanquish two thousand.” (A ratio of 1 to 2).


Ishaq: 326: “Abdullah told me that when this verse came down it was a shock to the Muslims who took it hard. They were afraid, as the odds were too great. So Allah relieved them and cancelled the verse with another: ‘Now has Allah relieved you and He knows that
there is a weakness among you, so if there are 100 (rather than 20) they shall vanquish 200.’”


Sahih Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 176: Narrated Ibn Abbas: When the Verse: — ‘If there are twenty steadfast amongst you (Muslims), they will overcome two- hundred (non-Muslims).’ was revealed, it became hard on the Muslims when it became compulsory that one Muslim ought not to flee (in war) before ten (non-Muslims). So (Allah) lightened the order by revealing: ‘(But) now Allah has lightened your (task) for He knows that there
is weakness in you. So if there are of you one-hundred steadfast, they will overcome two-hundred (non-Muslims).’ (Surah 8:66) So when Allah reduced the number of enemies which Muslims should withstand, their patience and perseverance against the enemy decreased as much as their task was lightened for them.

QUSTION.
(1) Why did Almighty Allah’s prophecy in Surah 8:65 fail in its fulfillment? Does not this prove that Allah is incapable of seeing
through to the fulfillment of his prophecies? Does this not also prove that Allah cannot be the Almighty God as he claims to be? (2) Why did Allah abrogate his own prophecy and replace it with a contradictory prophecy? Does not the fact that Allah got his prophecy wrong the first time shows that he is learning by trial and error just like any imperfect human? Does not this also prove that
there is a failed prophecy in the Qur’an? Can a divine book contain a failed prophecy in it? (3) Since Allah abrogated his prophecy because of his warriors’ reluctance to fight against such odds, does not this prove that the fulfillment of Allah’s prophecy is dependent on the decisions of imperfect humans? How can the failings of humans to follow directions
result in the divine failure of the fulfillment of Allah’s prophecy? Can the Word of God fail? (4) Why did not Allah know that his warriors would be unable to cope
with the demand to defeat their enemies ten times their number? Is it
not so because Allah did not know the weakness of the Muslims? Why
did not Allah know their weakness just one verse away? Why did
Allah choose to lower the prophesized ratio from 1:10 to 1:2 instead of empowering his warriors with the needed strength and courage to
measure up to task as predicted in his divine prophecy? (5) If Allah does not know the present, can we trust him to know the future?[/s]

I don't expect anybody to answer you but maybe they are not aware of your formula(i.e dodging real the topic when you are exposed).
You need to address the topic first if you are going to be answered, Stop your dodging attitude.
The bible said you are not of Jesus when you are yet to drink poison, carry anaconda without negative effect on you so why are you running away from giving response to the verse?

malvisguy212:
[s]There are also other instances in the Qur’an that shows that Allah does
not know the outcome of the future with certainty. For example the
Qur’an declares in Surah 3:144: Muhammad is no more than a Messenger, and indeed many Messengers have passed away before him. If HE DIES OR IS KILLED, will you then turn back on your heels as disbelievers? And he who
turns back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to Allah, and
Allah will give reward to those who are grateful. (Hilali-Khan)

Muhammad was not only Allah’s greatest prophet but he was also his
final and favorite prophet. Yet, Allah was uncertain about the manner
of Muhammad’s death. The phrase, “If he dies or is killed” in Arabic is “Fa-in mata awo kutila.” This verse demonstrates that Allah did not know whether Muhammad will die a natural death (Mata) or be killed by someone (Kutila). Thus, Allah was unable to affirm the exact manner of Muhammad’s death. That is why there is not a single
prophecy in the Qur’an that details the manner of Muhammad’s death.

MUHAMA RDAD THE BIBLE WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING THE TEACHING,ALLAH PROPHECISE THE DEATH OF JESUS IN THE QURAN BECAUSE JESUS EXISTED BEFORE THE QURAN.BUT ALLAH DID NOT PROPHECISE THE DEATH OF MUHAMMAD,WHOM MUSLIMS CLAIM HE IS THE GRDATEST PROPHET.[/s]

Not after you address the OP by the virtue of answering the question. Thank God poison was included in the points.
Can you malvisguy212 drink poison in the name of Jesus without harming you as requested by the bible?
Why is it any of your pastors yet to perform the miracle of drinking poison and carrying anaconda? We only hear speaking in tongue, healing the sick miracle if truely you can do perform the simple one in the name of Jesus, why not the rest?

malvisguy212:
the hadith were not the word of Allah or muhammd,is the word of men who are closer to muhammad,they are not even a prophet or apostle,how sure can we trust the hadith? Even muslims dont trust the hadith.

ignoramus

Rilwayne001:


ignoramus

To be ignorant is better than to be a jihadist, a terrorist, a threat and a killer '!!

Ajibam:

To be ignorant is better than to be a jihadist, a terrorist, a threat and a killer '!!

What is the difference between all that you listed?

Ignorance leads to them all...

yazach:

Not after you address the OP by the virtue of answering the question. Thank God poison was included in the points.
Can you malvisguy212 drink poison in the name of Jesus without harming you as requested by the bible?
Why is it any of your pastors yet to perform the miracle of drinking poison and carrying anaconda? We only hear speaking in tongue, healing the sick miracle if truely you can do perform the simple one in the name of Jesus, why not the rest?

nothing to be adress in the op,it only a conversation.

Rilwayne001:


ignoramus

ok.correct me.is the hadith word of Allah? Or muhammad speak directly in the hadith?

malvisguy212:
ok.correct me.is the hadith word of Allah? Or muhammad speak directly in the hadith?

Ignoramus

malvisguy212:
nothing to be adress in the op,it only a conversation.

Many to be addressed my Mr!.
Ok answer the following Questions:
1- Can you heal the sick in the name of Jesus
2- Can you speak in tongue?
3- can you cast out devil in the name of Jesus?

Answer honestly if you are not going to be denied by Jesus according to the verse

Rilwayne001:


Ignoramus

you are pointless, thank you for your time.

malvisguy212:
you are pointless, thank you for your time.

No thanks

I can"t just waste my time with a loon

yazach:

Many to be addressed my Mr!.
Ok answer the following Questions:
1- Can you heal the sick in the name of Jesus
2- Can you speak in tongue?
3- can you cast out devil in the name of Jesus?

Answer honestly if you are not going to be denied by Jesus according to the verse

1.by his grace i can heal the sick through the name jesus.
2.when demon possesed you,how do you speak?when muhammad recive his ravelation,he snore like a camel,his voice is the same as camel?.when i pray for the holy spirit to possesed me and when he does,i will speak in tongue.
3.when i relocate to my new house,before i enter the room, i say "all the demon,whitches and wizard,get out,moses is here" at the middle of the night i saw someone standing,i just smile and say,"if you stand tire,you will leave,i want to sleep" today by his grace,am healthy,infact the last time i sick it was 1995/06. After i leave the hospital,i told the doctor, i moses will never step foot here again,uptil today,by his grace am alive,and i havent visited the hospital.
Am a christian,my testemoney is true,let here your's.

Rilwayne001:


No thanks

I can"t just waste my time with a loon

are you blind to read my coment? Dint i say correct me if am wrong? Just face it,you are afraid to answer because you will twist the quran.