masonkz:



I'd like to know please, where did you get the statistics from. care to tell? I've searched and couldn't find.

Thanks

First, I'm sure you could have found it if you really made the effort - as ever the homosexual push is one of lies, deceit and ad-hominem.
http://www.rense.com/general24/reportpedophilia.htm. The first link I looked at.

Second, cursory research will reveal that pederasty was historically the main theme of homosexuality...older male with pubescent teen.

Thirdly, homosexuals try and separate the two deviances, but we know they are well intertwined. NAMBLA - THE north American man/boy love assoc. - is a de facto homosexual lobby. In due time this will be at the fore as well. Many are already clasming adult/child (or inter-generational love as they call it) is beneficial to and desired by children.

Fourthly, I am no longer engaging purveyors of sin in polite debate. Give sin an inch and it will abound. You - and others with your gay agenda - have been warned.

I repeat, "homosexuality" - and I use that non-word advisedly - is sinful and evidently pathological. No to normalising or legitimising it, no to adoption by homos and no to SSM. No denial of human rights or opportunity like everyone else, but no to the deviancy - and I for one will resist it whenever it's in view, or it's endorsement/celebration is required.

Repent

TV

masonkz:


Pray tell, Did anyone stop you from having and growing your children normally? Or did gay people tell you we'd like to raise your kids?

Since when did having sex have anything to do with raising kids?

Be quiet.

In the UK the national union of teachers no less, is calling for a normal portrayal of homosexuality and the related physical activity as healthy and normal to young children. Sexualising and homosexualising children?

Further, there are now calls for parents who do not present a positive view of homosexuality to their children to be exposed to the law. Following that to its logical conclusion means that there may be a time when normal parents have their children taken away if they do not act accordingly.

Give sin an inch and it abounds. Homosexuality is deviant and should not be normalised.

Repent


TV

masonkz:


LOL.

these days i just get tired of all these threads... maybe I should get back in the game

Yaay!

TV01:

Be quiet.

In the UK the national union of teachers no less, is calling for a normal portrayal of homosexuality and the related physical activity as healthy and normal to young children. Sexualising and homosexualising children?

Further, there are now calls for parents who do not present a positive view of homosexuality to their children to be exposed to the law. Following that to its logical conclusion means that there may be a time when normal parents have their children taken away if they do not act accordingly.

Give sin an inch and it abounds. Homosexuality is deviant and should not be normalised.

Repent


TV

I don't know where you get such baseless researches, but here is a more accurate research, with good references to back it up.

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/faculty_sites/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html

Heterosexuals have done more harm to a child's mind than a gay person would ever do.

Now tell me, in Nigeria alone, how many pedophilia cases have you heard of, and how many were perpetrated by gay people? I'd be the last person to support anyone that abuses kids sexually, whether straight or not

TV01:

Be quiet.

In the UK the national union of teachers no less, is calling for a normal portrayal of homosexuality and the related physical activity as healthy and normal to young children. Sexualising and homosexualising children?

Further, there are now calls for parents who do not present a positive view of homosexuality to their children to be exposed to the law. Following that to its logical conclusion means that there may be a time when normal parents have their children taken away if they do not act accordingly.

Give sin an inch and it abounds. Homosexuality is deviant and should not be normalised.

Repent


TV

Personally I feel sex itself is a personal issue. Anything out of sex in biology/psychology classes shouldn't have anything to do with schools.

Where there should be issues would be when one gay person is being discriminated in school for the fact that he's girly, or manly but someone now has the knowledge that he's gay...ditto for the female. Such instances are what the laws were meant to address in the first place in schools, as bullying kids for their sexuality has led to suicide/suicide attempts.

i have no business if a present doesn't have a positive view on homosexuality, but don't go hating on a kid that is gay or hating him cos your straight kid is friends with the gay kid. I've had straight best friends since time immemorial and the last thing I'd do is think of sex when with them. If anything, they're grateful to have me as friend.

TV01:

Be quiet. Your whining about being bullied is almost as pitiful as your egregious desires. And quit the falsehood - over 85% of peados are homosexuals.


No...you leave your wretched lifestyle and expect to be resisted whenever you spew it as normal on the Family section.
Feel free to blow the trumpet for the gay hordes...all of whom I've slapped down...and will willingly do so again - the walking wounded and it's not just butt-hurt that ails them...pun intended .


TV

Lmao! Could life be this pathetic that these feather-brained homophobes - I refused to use heterosexual because there are still reasonable ones - are pulling statistics from their hairy ass.
Most peadophilia cases reported on Nairaland and around the world are heterosexuals.
Most rape cases are heterosexuals.
I don't need to make-up statistics like you. It's glaring obvious.

I can attest to you that there are no gay paedophiles in Nigeria. Have you heard of any classy or educated gay man raping kids as in heterosexuals?
Most of them that engage in it are the ones that lack access to internet unlike heterosexual goats.

Ode

NAMBLA - THE north American man/boy love assoc. - is a de facto homosexual lobby. In due time this will be at the fore as well. Many are already clasming adult/child (or inter-generational love as they call it) is beneficial to and desired by children.

@cococandy,

Do you remember a time last year when we were talking about this exact same topic and you said I and pickabeau1 were propagating conspiracy theories? You can see they are already laying the groundwork for it. Let's see how the next 25yrs will be like. By then they would have legalised pedophilia.

TV01:


...and what you said was reasonable

Because there are some babies in orphanages we should normalise the deviancy called of homosexuality Babies in orphanages is not ideal - we also know that placing them with a same gender couple is likewise sub-optimal - and much more risky.

Whine all you like to be allowed to rectally invade each other, but please don't present your perversity as a solution to societal pathology - as homosexuality is a pathology in itself.

Repent.

TV

See stùpidity. Who told you gays can't give birth on their own?.

You think all the happily married men are straight?

All the happily married women are straight?.

You idiöcy is lugubrious.

Superleo2:

Lmao! Could life be this pathetic that these feather-brained homophobes - I refused to use heterosexual because there are still reasonable ones - are pulling statistics from their hairy ass.
Most peadophilia cases reported on Nairaland and around the world are heterosexuals.
Most rape cases are heterosexuals.
I don't need to make-up statistics like you. It's glaring obvious.

I can attest to you that there are no gay paedophiles in Nigeria. Have you heard of any classy or educated gay man raping kids as in heterosexuals?
Most of them that engage in it are the ones that lack access to internet unlike heterosexual goats.

Ode

Statistics would seem to indicate heterosexual commit more of those crimes simply because homosexuals are the minority in any population.

But if you compare ratios among both populations, homosexuals commit more pedophile crimes. You can look it up.

Unless you're just trolling of course.

Nigeria as a country has an impressively poor database especially when it comes to intimate matters such as this. We borrow most of our statistics from outside studies.

5minsmadness:

@cococandy,

Do you remember a time last year when we were talking about this exact same topic and you said I and pickabeau1 were propagating conspiracy theories? You can see they are already laying the groundwork for it. Let's see how the next 25yrs will be like. By then they would have legalised pedophilia.

25years? Really?
Well, Paedophilia is already legal in Arab/Islamic countries.
It's legal in the Northern Nigeria.

Finally, ask Kanu Nwankwo how old his wife was, when he married her.

FrancisTony:

25years? Really?
Well, Paedophilia is already legal in Arab/Islamic countries.
It's legal in the Northern Nigeria.

Finally, ask Kanu Nwankwo how old his wife was, when he married her.

And I suppose you are in support of "legalised" pedophilia as well?

5minsmadness:
And I suppose you are in support of "legalised" pedophilia as well?

I'm not in support. I can't let my child marry a paedophile - I was just reminding you.
By the way, even your president-elect is a paedophile.

mr franciscatony! Your stupidity is not of this world I swear! Chai! It is "LEGENDARY"! Remember the 1st time I beheaded you on a thread and you ran away? I thought you would have grown up by now but apparently your case is "mental institution standard"! I'm going to post the thread soon so that crack and njoks can try to decipher your thinking pattern! Chisos!

FrancisTony:

I'm not in support.
I can't let my child marry a paedophile - I was just reminding you.

By the way, even your president-elect is a paedophile.

So we are on the same page then? Or is there some warped point to your statement?

www.nairaland.com/2232890/please-homosexualism-natural-chosen-lifestyle/2


Cc...crackhaus and njokusboy as well as the rest of you who have been objective and not buying the crap this dunce and the rest of his "primordial LGBT disfunctional club" have been trying to sell to you!

5minsmadness:

So we are on the same page then? Or is there some warped point to your statement?

No

funlord:
www.nairaland.com/2232890/please-homosexualism-natural-chosen-lifestyle/2


Cc...crackhaus and njokusboy as well as the rest of you who have been objective and not buying the crap this dunce and the rest of his "primordial LGBT disfunctional club" have been trying to sell to you!

I never had an argument with you on that thread.
I only argued with Le..zz and Crazi..ebone.

Before I could enter the thread, you'd already been slaughtered by Missclasssy and you resorted to calling her names.

FrancisTony:

I never had an argument with you on that thread.
I only argued with Le..zz and Crazi..ebone.

Before I could enter the thread, you'd already been slaughtered by Missclasssy and you resorted to calling her names.

.....see the dunce trying to save face! LOL! Let those who have "eyes and common sense" unlike U, go through the evidence for themselves! U should have ran when she did but U must have thot U were amongst your gay brethren! I'm sure U never knew I had such damning evidence! This will teach U to Never deal wit a shadow boxer with a long memory!

5minsmadness:

@cococandy,

Do you remember a time last year when we were talking about this exact same topic and you said I and pickabeau1 were propagating conspiracy theories? You can see they are already laying the groundwork for it. Let's see how the next 25yrs will be like. By then they would have legalised pedophilia.

Well Nigeria did not need any gay agenda to legalize paedophilia did we?
Talk about leaving the log in your eye to check the speck in your neighbors eye.

cococandy:

Well Nigeria did not need any gay agenda to legalize paedophilia did we?
Talk about leaving the log in your eye to check the speck in your neighbors eye.

What the hell do logs and specks have to do with anything? So because nigeria "legalised" pedophilia so i shouldnt speak out against it??

5minsmadness:

What the hell do logs and specks have to do with anything? So because nigeria "legalised" pedophilia so i shouldnt speak out against it??

Are you speaking against paedophilia in Nigeria or are looking for a way to blame gays for paedophilia? Two different things. Very different.

Just wanted to remind you that without a homosexual revolution, Nigeria has done well all by itself to ingrain paedophilia in her system, culture and government. So the sooner you dissociate the two, the better for us.

Gays are not responsible for paedophilia.
Nor will giving them 'laxitude' to free living encourage paedophilia.

As for speaking out against paedophilia we are 100% in agreement on that side.

Lolz. when you're caught chatting nonsense, you call it damage control.
I wonder what happened to make you stop using your reasoning faculties like you used to.

Step out of your world=travel to the west. Lol lol lol.
I guess not "reasoning with religious or cultural bias" also means denouncing your religion and adopting a different tribe's way of life as against trying to see things from ther own POV.

Too proud to admit when you made a mistake

FYI ignoring someone also includes not helping them answer questions directed at them.

And you can pretend like you don't have issues with who moved and where they moved to, but this is the third time you're chatting shyt publicly about this. Monkeys will always be monkeys no matter where they live remember?

It Is beneath you. (Or so I thought)

Pls next time refrain from making any snide comments about my relocation and kindly ignore me and any comments directed at me.

Thank you.

cococandy:

Are you speaking against paedophilia in Nigeria or are looking for a way to blame gays for paedophilia? Two different things. Very different.

Just wanted to remind you that without a homosexual revolution, Nigeria has done well all by itself to ingrain paedophilia in her system, culture and government. So the sooner you dissociate the two, the better for us.

Gays are not responsible for paedophilia.
Nor will giving them 'laxitude' to free living encourage paedophilia.

As for speaking out against paedophilia we are 100% in agreement on that side.

@bolded, fucking LIE.

Give an inch and pests will invade your household.
If you allow one abberation it makes it easier to allow others.
You see, you are gradually preparing to not minding if pedophilia becomes legalised, afterall its none of your buisness.
what you feel is none of your buisness will one day become your buisness.
One day it will be possible for your own 6yr old child to take you to court for infringing on her rights to live with her 45yr old lover; by then there will be nothing you can do about it since it would have been passed into law.
Give an INCH and pests will invade your household.

Now let me read your post properly...

Bloody hell woman, pedophilia and homosexuality fall under the same category of " sexual deviation ". It took a miracle for the nigerian government to not succumb to the pressures of the west to legalise homosexuality. we all know how the west have been holding a grudge against us since then. So it just so happens that we have a certain religion in this country that supports underage marriage, this religion has some seriously powerful people backing it else legalising of underage marriage wouldnt have happened too, but sadly it did. Does that mean that all nigerians support underage marriage? Does that mean it was a good moral move by the nigerian senate? Does that mean we should stop speaking against it? Of course not! And how do we fight it? By speaking up against it whenever we can. Because if good people say nothing, very soon they will have no right to say anything and what is considered an aberation e.g homosexuality, will be considered normal even though we know deep down that it isnt in all of its ramifications.

@bold totally agree.

At the rest of your post, one still can't understand where you're leaning to.
Do you realize that just half the energy homophobes spend on castigating homosexuality on NL would have been sufficient to do something about preventing the passing of that bill legalizing child marriage? Apparently not.
Now the west are the bad guys even when we have worse going on in our Nigeria.

Sadly that time you speak about when kids can't have a say on who they marry even if she's 6 and he's 45yrs old has already come for Nigerians.
And it came because instead of fighting our own social ills, we were more concerned about what's happening in the west and what two adults do in their own bedroom.
Do you feel concerned for the westerners that it may also get to them too? The paedophilia thing? That's why I said worry about yourself first.

There's no connection between paedophilia and homosexuality. If there is, then that same connection exists between heterosexuality and paedophilia. Should we then stop men and women having sexual relations with each other because it could lead to some men or women sexually molesting kids of the opposite gender?
Are you going to say you don't know that happens in large numbers everyday?
Why haven't you made the connection between heterosexuality and paedophilia since the myriads of occurrences where one person of the opposite gender molested a child?
Why haven't you put up a campaign against heterosexual sex?

See we will be in total agreement if you create another thread to condemn paedophilia instead of attaching it to homosexuality and trying to pass it off as both things of the same class. They are not.
If heterosexuals can molest kids, there's no reason why this should even come up when the so called ills of homosexuality is being analyzed.

If you may, Just watch, The same people who would like to paint homosexuality as bad will be the first to remind you that Mary was 12 when she had Jesus.(meaning that by implication it is not so bad).

I can't get around to comparing a relationship where two adult men or women decide to be together and a relationship where one person is forced against her will(or his will as the case may be). There's no comparison there.

5minsmadness:

@bolded, fucking LIE.

Give an inch and pests will invade your household.
If you allow one abberation it makes it easier to allow others.
You see, you are gradually preparing to not minding if pedophilia becomes legalised, afterall its none of your buisness.
what you feel is none of your buisness will one day become your buisness.
One day it will be possible for your own 6yr old child to take you to court for infringing on her rights to live with her 45yr old lover; by then there will be nothing you can do about it since it would have been passed into law.
Give an INCH and pests will invade your household.

Now let me read your post properly...

Bloody hell woman, pedophilia and homosexuality fall under the same category of sexual deviation". It took a miracle for the nigerian government to not succumb to the pressures of the west to legalise homosexuality. we all know how the west have been holding a grudge against us since then. So it just so happens that we have a certain religion in this country that supports underage marriage, this religion has some seriously powerful people backing it else legalising of underage marriage wouldnt have happened too, but sadly it did. Does that mean that all nigerians support underage marriage? Does that mean it was a good moral move by the nigerian senate? Does that mean we should stop speaking against it? Of course not! And how do we fight it? By speaking up against it whenever we can. Because if good people say nothing, very soon they will have no right to say anything and what is considered an aberation e.g homosexuality, will be considered normal even though we know deep down that it isnt in all of its ramifications.

wow..............

id be right back like evra

cococandy:
@bold totally agree.

At the rest of your post, one still can't understand where you're leaning to.
Do you realize that just half the energy homophobes spend on castigating homosexuality on NL would have been sufficient to do something about preventing the passing of that bill legalizing child marriage? Apparently not.
Now the west are the bad guys even when we have worse going on in our Nigeria.

Sadly that time you speak about when kids can't have a say on who they marry even if she's 6 and he's 45yrs old has already come for Nigerians.
And it came because instead of fighting our own social ills, we were more concerned about what's happening in the west and what two adults do in their own bedroom.
1, Do you feel concerned for the westerners that it may also get to them too? The paedophilia thing? That's why I said worry about yourself first.

4, There's no connection between paedophilia and homosexuality. If there is, then that same connection exists between heterosexuality and paedophilia. Should we then stop men and women having sexual relations with each other because it could lead to some men or women sexually molesting kids of the opposite gender?
3, Are you going to say you don't know that happens in large numbers everyday?
Why haven't you made the connection between heterosexuality and paedophilia since the myriads of occurrences where one person of the opposite gender molested a child?
Why haven't you put up a campaign against heterosexual sex?

See we will be in total agreement if you create another thread to condemn paedophilia instead of attaching it to homosexuality and trying to pass it off as both things of the same class. They are not.
If heterosexuals can molest kids, there's no reason why this should even come up when the so called ills of homosexuality is being analyzed.

If you may, Just watch, The same people who would like to paint homosexuality as bad will be the first to remind you that Mary was 12 when she had Jesus.(meaning that by implication it is not so bad).

5, I can't get around to comparing a relationship where two adult men or women decide to be together and a relationship where one person is forced against her will(or his will as the case may be). There's no comparison there.

1. The western world is the major champion in the endorsement of homosexuality, it is only natural i reference them when I discuss the matter. It has even gone so bad that the infringe on the freedom of choice of other nations by threathening them with sanctions if they do not agree to legalising homosexuality. the same freedom of choice they claim to champion. Hypocrisy, anyone?

2. There was a massive uproar when senator whatshisname legalised child marriage. Unfortunately in nigeria money and power speaks louder than morality or justice. Kindly do not deny this.

3. I have never seen a utopian society. it does not exist. Just because there are certain ills in a society does not mean you keep silent to others. Once again when good people do nothing evil is propagated.


4. Homosexuality and pedophilia both fall under the group sexual paraphilias. i feel i have mentioned this before. Accede to one and watch the other slip in with ease.

5. I'm sure i have related an experience here once involving a case of sexual molestation of a minor. The little girl involved did not understand what all the fuss was about and was angry we were seperating her from her "uncle". As far as she was concerned, "uncle' made her feel good.
of course we can argue on her not being able to give consent because she is underaged(9yrs old) but to be fair a niine year old knows a lot about her environment and the workings of the human body. what if in the near future the age restriction for underage is reduced and the 9yr old can now give consent. will you agree to that because, after all, it is now the law?




Its not like i expect to change your mind with these points. lets agree to disagree.

Still damage control...

...Step out of your world and relate with millions of people who have a different upbringing due to religion or culture bla bla bla...
This is pretty straight forward, ain't it... Lmao...

Or is stepping out of your world = stepping out of your head/house/street?
Is there even an 'African' religion or culture that supports homosexuality in particular or sexual deviancy in general, not to mention the millions of people that would have a different thinking/upbringing due to this nonexistent culture/religion?

Talk about having the look and taste of an orange, and still trying to sell it like it's apple, Lol...

funlord:
www.nairaland.com/2232890/please-homosexualism-natural-chosen-lifestyle/2


Cc...crackhaus and njokusboy as well as the rest of you who have been objective and not buying the crap this dunce and the rest of his "primordial LGBT disfunctional club" have been trying to sell to you!

They definitely not selling that homosexuality is natural crap to me, never gon' happen.

You my dear, are one of the reasons men are losing hope in marriage!

Flytefalls:
She should have focused her argument around the impact of her mothers homosexuality on her life. But no, she chose to get it all muddled up with the realm of single parenthood. It detracts from the seriousness of her declaration to LGBT groups.

Where two sexes come together, there will never (naturally) be a child generated from their relationship. It ain't my business to concern myself with same sex relationships, but once a child is introduced, we cannot be ignorant to the fact it may be not in the child's best interest. Nothing proven as yet, but we cannot turn a blind eye to such issues.

But where there is a heterosexual relationship, children are created naturally and it can be that the couple will split and that child will have to endure life living mostly with one parent at home. Why should anyone advocate adults to remain together if it's obvious they will not be happy together?

She lost credibility with the above. Sorry.

You are correct, but lesbians won't understand that logic!

Royver:


"Her mother's homosexuality" is what the entire article is about. The child is talking about being deprived of the prescence of a father ...a man figure... in her life which is as a direct result of the mother's homosexuality.

She is very on point.

I see no credibility lost here. If anything, I see a supressed child raised in an unnatural situation finally having the guts to speak out despite the possibility of rejection from her family and all that she has known.

Kudos to her.

That you lived a dysfunctional life doesn't mean there is no ideal! Single-motherhood is actually a deviation from the norm! Even widowhood is, that is why historically widows are shown support, because their circumstance was due to an act of God! Single-motherhood is a failure by parties involved to respect the norm either through their actions and inactions. It used to be a shame in African society!!

Having said the above, every dysfunctional childhood is traceable to the choices of the parents! What the lady was saying is that adults should make responsible choices in order not to affect their children (for instance your value system is being shaped by the fact you're from such a home!). And if they think their choices entitle them to some rights, they should consider the rights of their offspring too! After all, if we all had the choice to pick the parents we have/had, we may have picked differently!!

Never allow your childhood dysfunction affect you! And the first place to start is by acknowledging that there is a lacuna, and finding psychological bridges to stymied the tide!

I had to be very honest with you! Let's stop this permissive culture! That's why we are having cycles of gay behaviour and single-motherhood! Notice, most children of single-mothers end up being single-mothers! The government and society should bridge this gap!

Flytefalls:

She is entitled to tell her story, I truly hear her, but my problems with it lie mainly with her conclusions not the story itself.

Her final remarks are where I feel she is on an unrealistic quest for worldwide, happy family, perfection. She directs her attack to one group of people, then at the end ties another group to it. I am a child of a single parent family, should I write a letter to a federation of single parents decrying violations to my human rights because my mother and father chose to part ways? Yes, I'd have loved to have my dad with us, but is it really the same as being forced to have two dads/mums? Should we tackle the two issues (same sex and single parent) together? Yes, both may be inferior for arguments sake, but is it right to group them together, as if they were equal? This is what she alludes to, and I must disagree. Hence my criticism. I feel she cheapens her own argument

There are far more engaging, less la la land, stories out there involving children born to same sex couples (via donors) who actually have no father or mother to speak of. This woman was even lucky she knew of her father and has seen his face and heard his voice. Her story is not lessened by that fact, but it is not the most compelling.

5minsmadness:

@bolded, fucking LIE.

Give an inch and pests will invade your household.
If you allow one abberation it makes it easier to allow others.
You see, you are gradually preparing to not minding if pedophilia becomes legalised, afterall its none of your buisness.
what you feel is none of your buisness will one day become your buisness.
One day it will be possible for your own 6yr old child to take you to court for infringing on her rights to live with her 45yr old lover; by then there will be nothing you can do about it since it would have been passed into law.
Give an INCH and pests will invade your household.

Now let me read your post properly...

Bloody hell woman, pedophilia and homosexuality fall under the same category of " sexual deviation ". It took a miracle for the nigerian government to not succumb to the pressures of the west to legalise homosexuality. we all know how the west have been holding a grudge against us since then. So it just so happens that we have a certain religion in this country that supports underage marriage, this religion has some seriously powerful people backing it else legalising of underage marriage wouldnt have happened too, but sadly it did. Does that mean that all nigerians support underage marriage? Does that mean it was a good moral move by the nigerian senate? Does that mean we should stop speaking against it? Of course not! And how do we fight it? By speaking up against it whenever we can. Because if good people say nothing, very soon they will have no right to say anything and what is considered an aberation e.g homosexuality, will be considered normal even though we know deep down that it isnt in all of its ramifications.

The Nigerian government has already started taking legal measures against pedophilia. Way back in 2005 the Child right bill which covers all forms of child abuse from street hawking to child marriage has been passed by various states in Southern Nigeria. Only the North drags the bill still.

society has always kicked against all forms of sexual deviation even though prohibiting it is somehow clouded in controversy.