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US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by ladkud(m): 3:07pm On Oct 10, 2015
The United States has pulled out the USS
Theodore Roosevelt, a massive, nuclear-powered
aircraft carrier, of the Persian Gulf as Russian
warships have entered the area.
For the first time since 2007, the US Navy has
now no aircraft carrier in the Persian Gulf,
according to NBC News.
The warship was withdrawn from the Persian Gulf
on Thursday, a day after Russia fired 26 long-
range cruise missiles from its Caspian Flotilla
against terrorists in Syria, Pentagon officials
said.
US military officials claimed that the aircraft
carrier, which the houses about 5,000 sailors and
65 fighter jets, was withdrawn because it needed
to undergo maintenance.
Tensions between the United States and Russia
escalated after Moscow began its military
campaign on September 30 against Daesh (ISIL)
terrorists wreaking havoc in Syria.
Russia has carried out more than 110 airstrikes
against terrorists in Syria so far, killing hundreds
of militants.
The Pentagon announced on Wednesday that the
United States had adopted measures to ensure a
safe distance from Russian fighter jets flying over
Syria.
Republican Senator John McCain, the chairman of
the Senate Armed Services Committee, said on
Thursday that Washington should "just leave"
Syria "if all of your [US] actions are dictated by
the risk of confrontation with Russia."
Peter Daly, a retired Navy vice admiral, noted that
the absence of a US aircraft carrier is being
noticed by Russians.
"The most important thing you need a carrier for
is for what you don't know is going to happen
next," Daly told NBC News.
Three unnamed US military officials claimed on
Thursday that some cruise missiles fired from
Russian ships at targets in Syria landed in Iran.
Russian navy ship launches a cruise missile in
the Caspian Sea on Wednesday . ( Russian Defense
Ministry Press Service)
The officials stated that four Russian cruise
missiles went off course and crashed in Iran,
adding that they don’t know if the errant missiles
caused any damage.
In response, the Russian Defense Ministry
statement said that the new Kalibr-NK cruise
missiles all struck within nine feet of their
intended targets in Syria.
"No matter how unpleasant and unexpected it is
for our colleagues in the Pentagon and Langley,
our strike yesterday with precision-guided
weapons at ISIS (Daesh/ISIL) infrastructure in
Syria hit its targets," the Russian Defense
Ministry spokesman said on Thursday.

http://presstv.ir/Detail/2015/10/10/432800/US-warship-Persian-Gulf

Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by igwedaboss(m): 3:25pm On Oct 10, 2015
With love from Russia... cool

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Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by Nobody: 3:37pm On Oct 10, 2015
The kind of military equipment the US has no country can dream or afford it..

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Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by yanabasee(m): 3:53pm On Oct 10, 2015
America is afraid of Russia... But will never admit it... Shame to US.. Why didn't they keep it there? I know Russia would've tactically strike on the ship just to step on America's toe... And America will do nothing about it...

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Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by Tkester: 6:42pm On Oct 10, 2015
yanabasee:
America is afraid of Russia... But will never admit it... Shame to US.. Why didn't they keep it there? I know Russia would've tactically strike on the ship just to step on America's toe... And America will do nothing about it...

My thoughts exactly.
Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by armyofone(m): 2:55am On Oct 11, 2015
Pulls out?? Such huge lies...chuckles smh.
But you guys keep it up.
God bless our troops.
SemperFi

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Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by BALLOSKI: 8:40pm On Oct 11, 2015
Putin don win!

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Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by ValerianSteel(m): 11:13pm On Oct 11, 2015
Lies from the pit of hell.

Whoever believes this needs to brain checked grin

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Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by NighttWalker(m): 12:54am On Oct 12, 2015
yanabasee:
America is afraid of Russia... But will never admit it... Shame to US.. Why didn't they keep it there? I know Russia would've tactically strike on the ship just to step on America's toe... And America will do nothing about it...
The kind of shïts you read on NL is becoming way too much

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Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by yanabasee(m): 9:38pm On Oct 12, 2015
NighttWalker:
The kind of shïts you read on NL is becoming way too much

Your English is very poor...
Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by NighttWalker(m): 1:50am On Oct 13, 2015
yanabasee:


Your English is very poor...
Instead of explaining how Russia will tactically strike the US without a retaliation and you're telling me my english is very poor undecided

What a troll, think with your brain and not your aśs if you're gonna quote again
Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by Lucasbalo(m): 4:19am On Oct 13, 2015
armyofone:
Pulls out?? Such huge lies...chuckles smh.
But you guys keep it up.
God bless our troops.
SemperFi
SemperFi , Always Ready. GOD BLESS AMERICA.

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Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by yanabasee(m): 7:53am On Oct 13, 2015
NighttWalker:
Instead of explaining how Russia will tactically strike the US without a retaliation and you're telling me my english is very poor undecided

What a troll, think with your brain and not your aśs if you're gonna quote again

Nightwalker indeed! Quite stupiid...

You never asked a question... So why expecting an answer or any explanation?

People do not THINK WITH THEIR AS$!.... Be more sensible... A troll is far better than you!

I will excuse you to roam about as a night walker... Jobless tout!
Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by NighttWalker(m): 10:42am On Oct 13, 2015
yanabasee:


Nightwalker indeed! Quite stupiid...

You never asked a question... So why expecting an answer or any explanation?

People do not THINK WITH THEIR AS$!.... Be more sensible... A troll is far better than you!

I will excuse you to roam about as a night walker... Jobless tout!
I'm gonna be cool with you this time cuz I don't want this to escalate more than it has.

I was referring to what I read on NL generally even though I quoted you but you responded by saying my English is poor which is a bit of an insult considering how English is taken way to seriously in Nigeria.

Now I'm gonna ask you directly, how the hell in the world will Russia strike the US and not get a retaliation from the US?

I'm a Night Walker by Nigerian time but not here, true I'm jobless but that's the terms I agreed with my uni not to work for a while so I won't get distracted while they test my steel and finally I'm not a tout.

If you quote me with a rude comment again I'll show that I AIN'T GOT NO CHILL

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Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by yanabasee(m): 8:54pm On Oct 13, 2015
NighttWalker:
I'm gonna be cool with you this time cuz I don't want this to escalate more than it has.

I was referring to what I read on NL generally even though I quoted you but you responded by saying my English is poor which is a bit of an insult considering how English is taken way to seriously in Nigeria.

Now I'm gonna ask you directly, how the hell in the world will Russia strike the US and not get a retaliation from the US?

I'm a Night Walker by Nigerian time but not here, true I'm jobless but that's the terms I agreed with my uni not to work for a while so I won't get distracted while they test my steel and finally I'm not a tout.

If you quote me with a rude comment again I'll show that I AIN'T GOT NO CHILL



You quoted me and indirectly abused my post as being a "SHIT". You can't manoeuvre your conscience over your insult. But I'll admit this is a misunderstanding.

Now that you've asked... America is supporting the REBELS while the Russian strike is directly on the rebel's camp. The US has been training and equipping the rebels but yet to give an account over it. The United States launched a $500 million program to train and equip Syrian rebels, but doesn't have much to show for it. The U.S. Defense Department announced on Friday that it will suspend the rebel training program..

Russia is too open with their strikes. If America isn't afraid.. They would've asked Russia to ceasefire on the rebel's camp. And again, this fear made them to withdraw their Aircraft Carrier from the Gulf.

If you don't understand, try and work on your comprehensiveness.

@the bolded... Indeed, you're jobless!

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Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by bonechamberlain(m): 6:11am On Oct 15, 2015
NighttWalker:
Instead of explaining how Russia will tactically strike the US without a retaliation and you're telling me my english is very poor undecided

What a troll, think with your brain and not your aśs if you're gonna quote again
I think he is right in a way. Russia might strike the naval carrier but term it unintended or a mistake. the u.s would ask for compensation, which Russia would accept to pay, but wouldn't. remember Russia owes the u.s some amount of money they got during ww2, but Russia told them point blank that they wouldn't pay. and I believe the u s has forgotten the issue.

but in anyway if any unintended strike involves the death of human lives, I believe the Russians would be obliged to pay compensations.

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Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by NighttWalker(m): 4:45pm On Oct 16, 2015
yanabasee:




You quoted me and indirectly abused my post as being a "SHIT". You can't manoeuvre your conscience over your insult. But I'll admit this is a misunderstanding.

Now that you've asked... America is supporting the REBELS while the Russian strike is directly on the rebel's camp. The US has been training and equipping the rebels but yet to give an account over it. The United States launched a $500 million program to train and equip Syrian rebels, but doesn't have much to show for it. The U.S. Defense Department announced on Friday that it will suspend the rebel training program..

Russia is too open with their strikes. If America isn't afraid.. They would've asked Russia to ceasefire on the rebel's camp. And again, this fear made them to withdraw their Aircraft Carrier from the Gulf.

If you don't understand, try and work on your comprehensiveness.

@the bolded... Indeed, you're jobless!
You make good points but yet to tell me how they'll strike the US Navy directly and not get a retaliation.
Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by NighttWalker(m): 4:54pm On Oct 16, 2015
bonechamberlain:
I think he is right in a way. Russia might strike the naval carrier but term it unintended or a mistake. the u.s would ask for compensation, which Russia would accept to pay, but wouldn't. remember Russia owes the u.s some amount of money they got during ww2, but Russia told them point blank that they wouldn't pay. and I believe the u s has forgotten the issue.

but in anyway if any unintended strike involves the death of human lives, I believe the Russians would be obliged to pay compensations.
What would Russia strike the US with and term it unintended? cruise missile? the cruise missile travels from the caspian sea and then through Iran and Iraq before hitting it's target in Syria, you can never hit someone in the gulf and term it a mistake, that's just stupid and calling for war.

Airstrike? the jets will be shoot down if they don't identify themselves before they get in range

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Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by bonechamberlain(m): 6:28pm On Oct 16, 2015
NighttWalker:
What would Russia strike the US with and term it unintended? cruise missile? the cruise missile travels from the caspian sea and then through Iran and Iraq before hitting it's target in Syria, you can never hit someone in the gulf and term it a mistake, that's just stupid and calling for war.

Airstrike? the jets will be shoot down if they don't identify themselves before they get in range
that the reason the u.s had to leave. remember that ship that left wasn't in the gulf.
Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by NairaMinted: 7:27pm On Oct 16, 2015
[size=18pt]U.S. Carrier Strike Groups Locations Map – Oct. 16, 2015 (IMPORTANT)[/size]
1779 ViewsOctober 16, 2015 31 Comments
Selection_058
[img]http://thesaker.is/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Selection_0581.png[/img]
For a full size high resolution map, please go to http://southfront.org/u-s-carrier-strike-groups-locations-map-oct-16-2015/

Comment by the Saker: the big news here is that the USA has pulled the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt (CVN-71) out of the Persian Gulf and that, for the first time in many years, no US aircraft carrier will be patrolling these waters. In fact, there are currently no US aircraft carriers anywhere near the Middle-East. Funny fact: Theodore Roosevelt was the 26th US President and Russia fired exactly 26 cruise missiles, after which the Theodore Roosevelt withdrew. Coincidence or the the Kremlin send a message to Uncle Sam?

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Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by NairaMinted: 7:53pm On Oct 16, 2015
CVN-71 and CVN-76 from this map appear to be converging at the South China Sea… Hmmmmmmmm

@appleyard @Shymm3x

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Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by Appleyard(m): 9:18pm On Oct 16, 2015
NairaMinted:
[size=18pt]U.S. Carrier Strike Groups Locations Map – Oct. 16, 2015 (IMPORTANT)[/size]
1779 ViewsOctober 16, 2015 31 Comments
Selection_058
[img]http://thesaker.is/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Selection_0581.png[/img]
For a full size high resolution map, please go to http://southfront.org/u-s-carrier-strike-groups-locations-map-oct-16-2015/

Comment by the Saker: the big news here is that the USA has pulled the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt (CVN-71) out of the Persian Gulf and that, for the first time in many years, no US aircraft carrier will be patrolling these waters. In fact, there are currently no US aircraft carriers anywhere near the Middle-East. Funny fact: Theodore Roosevelt was the 26th US President and Russia fired exactly 26 cruise missiles, after which the Theodore Roosevelt withdrew. Coincidence or the the Kremlin send a message to Uncle Sam?
Itmay be coincidence on the surface, but if you are one that deals with binary numbers and coded sequence, then you will understand that what Russia deliberately sent a coded message which the Pentagon codedly decipher.grin I laugh when people say they pulled the ship out cos it was due for mentainance; grin what a lame excuse.grin Anyway, its quiet now for the time being.

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Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by yanabasee(m): 9:42pm On Oct 16, 2015
NighttWalker:
You make good points but yet to tell me how they'll strike the US Navy directly and not get a retaliation.

America's Aircraft carrier was at the location close to the rebel's camp where Russia's striking is intense...

With this, Russia MiGhT extend their fire to their aircraft carrier with the mission to destroy ISIS...

You should get a DsTV.... You seems to ask questions you shouldn't be asking! Quite naïve!

Don't ask any other question! I'm done with you!

End of class!

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Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by Appleyard(m): 11:09pm On Oct 16, 2015
NairaMinted:
CVN-71 and CVN-76 from this map appear to be converging at the South China Sea… Hmmmmmmmm

@appleyard @Shymm3x
Yeah. The stakes have been raised ever since China started building artificial islands in the south China sea. And it is gradually reaching a feverish level. But the truth is, it has nothing to do with the Chinese new Islands. Do anyone actually think the US gives a dime if China sand-fill the whole sea? Nah nah! There is more than meet the eye in this US/China feud. Something very alarming is gradually happening to the US financial/economic base, which alot of people haven't notice (i might do a thread on that later).

The provocative actions taken by US government in the South China Sea is only a response to this impending financial doom and fear by the elites (the shadow government) , and not in the interest of the American people, nor does it portend any strategic and security threat to the nations's national interest. The White House is simply taking orders from the financial elite shadow figures, the bankers who control the money supply and the government. These are the same people who imposed sanctions against Russia, overthrew the elected government of Ukraine, and destroyed one of the most stable nations in the Middle East, Libya. As one analyst aptly put it: They are mad men, lunatics, and are leading the world to war.
Why would the bankers want to provoke China? The answer has nothing to do with the South China Sea. It has everything to do with the U.S. dollar.

The dollar has been a cash machine for the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank because they collect interest on every dollar printed, all at the expense of U.S. taxpayers. It is no different from raping and pillaging, except they have managed to make it legal. However, the Fed is not content to just rape U.S. taxpayers. They want to rape the rest of the world too. They have managed to get away with it for decades, but now the rest of the world is getting tired of it, especially since 2008 when the Fed began printing trillions of dollars to bail out their failed financial institutions.
The impact of the Fed’s reckless money printing has been felt around the world because almost all International trade is done in dollars and nearly all of the world’s commodities are priced in U.S dollars. The excessive money printing caused prices for commodities like corn, wheat, soybeans, and oil to increase to all time highs. The higher prices were especially harmful to third world and emerging nations because they spend over half of their incomes on food and energy. For some nations the economic turmoil even resulted in the overthrow of governments, including Tunisia and Egypt.

Now, to protect themselves, China, while systematically increasingly dumping it's shares of US treasury bonds, pegged its currency to the dollar, which enabled them to avoid much of the commodity price inflation and avoid raising prices for their exports. However, they did not stop there. They began taking actions to replace the dollar as the world’s reserve currency so they would never again be victimized by US actions. They began developing their own alternative financial system to replace the western-based systems.
In defiance of the western bankers, they formed the Asia Infrastructure Investment Bank as an alternative to institutions like the World Bank and the IMF. They invited other countries to join and just about everyone did, even long-time U.S. allies like South Korea, Australia, the U.K., France, Germany, and Italy. Only Japan stayed loyal to the U.S.
In addition, China formed new trade and military alliances with Russia. Not quite long they completed joint military training exercises and signed a new trade agreement, and is now getting more pronounced that complete alliance between China and Russia is very imminent.

Therefore, the conflict in the South China Sea and the now coverging US millitary assets around that area. is not about the new islands that China is building. It is about the financial elite trying desperately to put China back in their place, to force them to yield to their demands, to show them
" we are still the boss ". Unfortunately, this strategy is going to backfire because the United States is more vulnerable than ever before due to the enormous government debt, which is now over $18 trillion. Meanwhile, China is stronger than ever due to years of strong economic growth and a very large, well funded military. Also.
China’s military force in the South China Sea far outnumbers the United States in both air and sea power. The U.S. has just 9 destroyers compared to 73 for China. The U.S. has 2 submarines compared to 58 for China. The U.S. has 54 fighter/bomber aircrafts compared to 2,100 for China. (Source: U.S. Department of Defense, World Air Forces 2015 report.)
Thats why China is not being intimidated so far.

And with Russia in Syria on another side, the US is facing more than it can chew.

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Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by Tkester: 5:58pm On Oct 17, 2015
^^^^

Spot on analysis.
Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by NairaMinted: 9:15am On Oct 18, 2015
This is why CVN-71 is presently in the Indian Ocean

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3277422/America-India-Japan-launch-six-day-joint-naval-exercises-Bay-Bengal-watchful-eye-China.html

America, India and Japan launch six-day joint naval exercises in the Bay of Bengal under the watchful eye of China


America is taking part in six-day joint naval exercises in the Bay of Bengal with India and Japan in order to show their strengthening alliance in the face of a resurgent China


The muscle-flexing exercises are taking place despite warnings from Chinese to India not to be drawn into an 'anti-China' alliance (pictured, fighter jets sit on the deck of the USS Theodore Roosevelt)


The U.S. has deployed the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt, alongside warships and a nuclear submarine for the drills, codenamed Malabar

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Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by NairaMinted: 9:17am On Oct 18, 2015
^^^^^^ Missy, your scheduled maintenance story just got blown outta the water tongue

Missy89:


Appleyard, My guy. Stop acting like another propagandist. The aircraft Carrier was due to leave for maintenance way before The Russians deployed in Syria.

Stop it lipsrsealed
Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by OBAGADAFFI: 12:44pm On Oct 18, 2015
I insist the problem with America is Obama.

Since Obama reduces defense funding, everything stared crumbling.
Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by Missy89(f): 2:50pm On Oct 18, 2015
NairaMinted:
^^^^^^ Missy, your scheduled maintenance story just got blown outta the water tongue


It is not my story. That was the news two months ago. Or are you saying i traveled back in time to create a false news?

Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by NighttWalker(m): 3:13pm On Oct 19, 2015
yanabasee:


America's Aircraft carrier was at the location close to the rebel's camp where Russia's striking is intense...

With this, Russia MiGhT extend their fire to their aircraft carrier with the mission to destroy ISIS...

You should get a DsTV.... You seems to ask questions you shouldn't be asking! Quite naïve!

Don't ask any other question! I'm done with you!

End of class!
Well there is no Dstv here in Sydney, Australia. You don't get my question do you? Tell me how the US will nothing when striked by Russia.
Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by yanabasee(m): 10:18pm On Oct 19, 2015
NighttWalker:
Well there is no Dstv here in Sydney, Australia. You don't get my question do you? Tell me how the US will nothing when striked by Russia.

Oh! Why not take a walk to washington across whiteHouse and ask Obama, yourself?
Re: US Pulls Aircraft Carrier Out Of Persian Gulf As Russian Ships Enter by NighttWalker(m): 12:41pm On Oct 21, 2015
yanabasee:


Oh! Why not take a walk to washington across whiteHouse and ask Obama, yourself?
Yea because it was Obama who comment on this thread that Russia will strike the US and US won't do anything about it

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