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Re: Nigerians In Ireland,how are you Coping With The Recession And The Eu Bailout? by overblood: 8:03pm On Jul 19, 2011
Think that is totally uncalled for. The Irish and the polish also milk the welfare. Social is cracking down on those who abuse the system,

Excuse me xxcarolx but I am Irish, and I am entitled to avail of social welfare since I have paid my fair share of income taxes throughout the years. And you are forgetting that we are EU citizens.

Some Nigerians and NOT all Nigerians.

Sorry, I think you'll actually find that it's MOST and not some.
Re: Nigerians In Ireland,how are you Coping With The Recession And The Eu Bailout? by xxcarolxx(f): 8:18pm On Jul 19, 2011
Bully for you im also Irish, So don't try and tell me the Irish don't bleed the welfare,
Re: Nigerians In Ireland,how are you Coping With The Recession And The Eu Bailout? by justwise(m): 8:19pm On Jul 19, 2011
overblood:

Excuse me xxcarolx but I am Irish,  and I am entitled to avail of social welfare since I have paid my fair share of income taxes throughout the years. And you are forgetting that we are EU citizens.

Sorry, I think you'll actually find that it's MOST and not some.

You are too naive, there are Nigerians with Irish passports, living and working legally, they are entitled to social welfare as well.

So stop moaning about being EU citizen and all that nonsense.

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Re: Nigerians In Ireland,how are you Coping With The Recession And The Eu Bailout? by overblood: 11:39pm On Jul 19, 2011
Hey I never said there weren't Nigerians working honestly. But most of them come here to milk the system. That is a fact that nobody will deny, unless you are Nigerian in front of an immigration officer.

I had a Nigerian telling me exactly how he scammed his way to Ireland. He came to UK on a holiday visa, got a ferry to Belfast and took a bus down to Dublin then made up some crap refugee story. Why didn't he stop in UK by the way? I don't get it and I didn't think to ask him.
Re: Nigerians In Ireland,how are you Coping With The Recession And The Eu Bailout? by Moves: 8:20pm On Jul 20, 2011
@ Overblood;
And how many Irish live and work illegally in the US,  Last I checked the Irish government was lobbying the US for some sort of amnesty for the Irish.
Check the Live register stats,  http://www.cso.ie/releasespublications/documents/labour_market/current/lreg.pdf
You will see that in June 2011- Irish National =379,027 -- Others= 14,431 (this is the group for Non EU- ) So Non EU- make up less than 5% of the population on benefit.
Even assuming that Nigerians make up half of the Non-EU numbers; which is highly impossible considering there is a large Congolese / East African/ Indian /Pakistani /Chinese Communities; it would still be like 2% of people on benefit - And newsflash as non Irish you are require to have worked and paid tax for 2years to be entitled to the above.
Get your facts rights - The Irish have been milking the Irish system and stop trying to blame it on Nigerians.
As per child benefit- Its is for the child-- every child gets it, Bono's and Bertie Ahern's children will get the same even though they are well off, and looking back few years, you will find that the Irish tend to have large families.
Re: Nigerians In Ireland,how are you Coping With The Recession And The Eu Bailout? by xxcarolxx(f): 8:37pm On Jul 20, 2011
^^^ You took the words right out of my mouth, also overblood forgets the nigerians here have kids who are IRISH CITIZENS,
Re: Nigerians In Ireland,how are you Coping With The Recession And The Eu Bailout? by tunnytox(m): 9:10pm On Jul 20, 2011
There is a saying in Yoruba that 'an elder wo tied corn to his pants turns himself to hen's pals'  Agbalagba to so agbado mo idi o ti so ara re di alawada adie I remeber when Ireland were given out passports to every tom diick and harry who have an Irish born children they do not have enough foresight to know that this is a recipe for disaster. Substantially whatever Nigerians are showing you today it was due to the fault of your politicians who are too lazy to formulate policies that will attract the right people to your country in the period of economic boom but chooses to attract the set of people who even by Nigerian standards are considered dregs of the society.

Most nations with good foresight have a very robust immigration system to attract skilled professionals but Ireland choses to attract unskilled, lazy and greedy people to their country. I don't know if the situation has changed but I use to know that was very much easy to claim asylum in Ireland than to renew your work permit, so if you have policies like that you can have no one to blame but yourselves. For instance who can intentionally leave his house door open without attracting thieves?

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Re: Nigerians In Ireland,how are you Coping With The Recession And The Eu Bailout? by Laajman(m): 10:27pm On Jul 21, 2011
I simply don't understand why some Nigerians are just outright lazy.
As if our infamous reputation with the 419 thing is not damaging enough, a sizeable number of
Nigerians abroad are happy to live off welfare, and drive flashy cars.

They'd concoct all manners of lies and deceit to remain on welfare. Why are they so short-sighted, and
unambitious?
Re: Nigerians In Ireland,how are you Coping With The Recession And The Eu Bailout? by SabrinaKat: 2:11pm On Jul 24, 2011
I live in an area where there has been an huge influx of Nigerians and in fact, have two families living next to me -- on one side, a family (mum, dad and three children) -- pleasant, friendly and nice.  

On the other, a crazy woman with her four children -- three of the four are disrespectful (spitting at you as you pass), play on the street in their 'go-cart' (crashing into parked cars), playing basketball against the side of the house (ours as well), screaming, screetching (sp) and generally, obnoxious. The mother thinks it's funny when any neighbours complain about the noise, the mother has threatened neighbours with knives, and any dispute, she says everyone is racist, etc. Interestingly, the other family WON'T let their own children play with these children, so  it's clear to me that within the Nigerian community, just like in Ireland, there are decent people and scum.

Both my husband and I work; we don't mind that our pleasant neighbours are getting a helping hand (our previous neighbours were also terrible, they crashed into our car and never told us, caused massive damage to the property and she ran an illegal creche as well (for some 20+ children)), but those that have four-five-six plus children and then make so much noise that nobody can open a window or even relax/sleep in, that I have a problem with -- is it because she is Nigerian? perhaps, more just because she is a horrible person, and that can be found in any culture/country?

I wonder if I am a racist because I cannot stand my horrible neighbour and just wish she would move out!

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Re: Nigerians In Ireland,how are you Coping With The Recession And The Eu Bailout? by Ilekokonit: 1:35am On Sep 02, 2011
@SabrinaKat

Regarding your second neighbour - the crazy woman who threatens neighbours with knives and whose children spit at you as you pass.

How do you know she is a Nigerian ??

The behaviour you describe is not Nigerianlike and even our men do not behave like that let alone our women in a foreign land.

Try as best as you can to ascertain the Nationality of this obnoxious neighbour of yours and you may just be suprised that she is not Nigerian.
Re: Nigerians In Ireland,how are you Coping With The Recession And The Eu Bailout? by marie142: 2:39am On Sep 28, 2011
Don't worry there coping just fine and social welfare.
I myself am on Social welfare i'm Irish i get 47 euro a week it kills me going down to the social welfare offices to see all the nigerians with the best of everything. every time i'm down there they are always causing problems shouting i want more money i want this i want that.
Also so many times when iv been on the bus, Nigerians that have young children in a pram leave the pram at the bus stop and get on the bus if there's no room for it knowing they can just get a new one of social welfare it makes me sick. I don't understand how i can only get 47 euro but they can get a house cars anything they want.
A nigerian i went to school with got a car off social welfare while she was still in school because of "travel". I didn't even get a travel grant for my bus fair.
I cant stand nigerians blacks what ever you want to call them.
Yes some Irish people cheat the system and yes that still isn't right but nigerians come over here just to it, Id like to see them try get anything like that in their country.
I just don't understand how they get away with it.
Re: Nigerians In Ireland,how are you Coping With The Recession And The Eu Bailout? by justwise(m): 7:34am On Sep 28, 2011
marie142:

Don't worry there coping just fine and social welfare.
I myself am on Social welfare i'm Irish i get 47 euro a week it kills me going down to the social welfare offices to see all the nigerians with the best of everything. every time i'm down there they are always causing problems shouting i want more money i want this i want that.
Also so many times when iv been on the bus, Nigerians that have young children in a pram leave the pram at the bus stop and get on the bus if there's no room for it knowing they can just get a new one of social welfare it makes me sick. I don't understand how i can only get 47 euro but they can get a house cars anything they want.
A nigerian i went to school with got a car off social welfare while she was still in school because of "travel". I didn't even get a travel grant for my bus fair.
I cant stand nigerians blacks what ever you want to call them.
Yes some Irish people cheat the system and yes that still isn't right but nigerians come over here just to it, Id like to see them try get anything like that in their country.
I just don't understand how they get away with it.
You useless, jobless sponger, get a job and stop moaning like a sad loser.

Nobody gets a car as part of social welfare, the Nigerian u saw driving a car might have worked for it while lazy backside like you are busy crying ur greedy eyes out.
Re: Nigerians In Ireland,how are you Coping With The Recession And The Eu Bailout? by tunnytox(m): 8:08am On Sep 28, 2011
@justwise
I agree that some of marie's posts are wrong but honestly she's right Nigerian know how to milk the system very well few of the ways they use are:

1. Using non existent child to claim child benefits
2. Claiming benefits while working with someone else's documents or by using fake documents. In fact many have been caught while working with fake papers despite being on benefits
3. Claiming benefits for childcare while using someone else PPS number (NI) as childminder's
4. Until they introduced fingerprinting many of them have claimed asylum using up to 3 or more names.

Many of those Nigerians with the exception of few profesionals are parasites I lived there before and it make me sick to see Nigerians behave this way.
Re: Nigerians In Ireland,how are you Coping With The Recession And The Eu Bailout? by justwise(m): 6:15pm On Sep 28, 2011
tunnytox:

@justwise
I agree that some of marie's posts are wrong but honestly she's right Nigerian know how to milk the system very well few of the ways they use are:

1. Using non existent child to claim child benefits
2. Claiming benefits while working with someone else's documents or by using fake documents. In fact many have been caught while working with fake papers despite being on benefits
3. Claiming benefits for childcare while using someone else PPS number (NI) as childminder's
4. Until they introduced fingerprinting many of them have claimed asylum using up to 3 or more names.

Many of those Nigerians with the exception of few profesionals are parasites I lived there before and it make me sick to see Nigerians behave this way.
Yes there are Nigerians like that but Marie's comment is way out of order, she is not denying that  Irish people do the same thing but Nigerians are singled out in her post cos she is racist bigot.

I'm not for a moment supporting shameless Nigerians who does that but it shouldn't be generalized and exaggerated.

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Re: Nigerians In Ireland,how are you Coping With The Recession And The Eu Bailout? by xxcarolxx(f): 7:24pm On Sep 28, 2011
Marie, How Did u come across this forum?? No one gets cars from social welfare, that story is worn out, Besides i know a few 9ja's here not one of them claim social, they hold down two and three jobs, Jobseekers allowance is 160.00 per week,
Re: Nigerians In Ireland,how are you Coping With The Recession And The Eu Bailout? by dotcomnamename: 1:04am On Oct 24, 2014
Irelander:
Well said guys, the problem is that in Ireland nobody saw the downturn coming, everyone was simply leaving beyond their means. People taking two mortgages as they see it as an a good investment opportunity, but the boom time was too short, and for a lot of people its a complete disaster (even the Irish)

I have to say the Irish were very generous and there was no effective control on there social welfare system, the system simply allows people to be lazy
In fact some people(everyone, not just Nigerians) see the social benefit as their career because its pays well not to work and collect money than work and be tax (I mean some people were having 5 to 6 kids just for the sake of benefit!). It was totally surreal

Now that the bubble has boost, it proving hard to leave. It was a wake-up call for everyone (including myself)

I Know for sure Ireland will bounce back because they are good people (there are some that don't like you, but its thesame everywhere)

Problem now though is that they (Irish authority) are using any means they can to get any immigrate out of there country, so if you are a law abiding Nigerian, you have no problem, but all the fraudster that are giving Nigerians bad names BEWARE!


I know of many hard working Nigerians here, but the scammers who are looking to spoil that Nigerian name are innumerous.
worst still, i see some Nigerians who praise this fraudsters or buy from them. Lets be open in our view we shouldn't be complacent with what is not right
it will only have a negative effect on fellow Nigerians and other foreigners

Ireland are already bouncing back. grin grin grin

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Re: Nigerians In Ireland,how are you Coping With The Recession And The Eu Bailout? by captain70: 11:40am On Dec 10, 2015
Please can anyone help me with what the economy of Ireland is now because am seriously planning of moving over there to search for a job.
Re: Nigerians In Ireland,how are you Coping With The Recession And The Eu Bailout? by Nobody: 8:13pm On Dec 10, 2015
captain70:
Please can anyone help me with what the economy of Ireland is now because am seriously planning of moving over there to search for a job.
Terrible, a friend just left there to London few months ago due to hardship and to think she is even a citizen puts you in more terrible position.
Re: Nigerians In Ireland,how are you Coping With The Recession And The Eu Bailout? by dotcomnamename: 4:56pm On Dec 29, 2015
mightsparrow:
Terrible, a friend just left there to London few months ago due to hardship and to think she is even a citizen puts you in more terrible position.


Continue your lies



March 2015, How Ireland developed the EU's fastest growing economy

CNN http://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/03/13/qmb-ireland-pm-enda-kenny-intv.cnn



Ireland retains crown as fastest-growing EU economy

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/05/ireland-fastest-growing-eu-economy



Ireland Raises A Glass To Economic Recovery

http://news.sky.com/story/1444877/ireland-raises-a-glass-to-economic-recovery

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Re: Nigerians In Ireland,how are you Coping With The Recession And The Eu Bailout? by Saintbusco1(m): 8:54am On Jan 12, 2019
someone should please wake this thread up from sleeping...

Are nigerians not migrating to Dublin anymore? please update us with live and life in Ireland

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Re: Nigerians In Ireland,how are you Coping With The Recession And The Eu Bailout? by dotcomnamename: 9:58am On Jan 12, 2019
Saintbusco1:
someone should please wake this thread up from sleeping...

Are nigerians not migrating to Dublin anymore? please update us with live and life in Ireland


https://www.nairaland.com/1067797/general-irish-visit-tourist-visa/7


https://www.nairaland.com/4056995/general-irish-student-visa-work


https://www.nairaland.com/1201132/nigerians-ireland-dublin-etc-lets
Re: Nigerians In Ireland,how are you Coping With The Recession And The Eu Bailout? by whatalife: 8:12am On Dec 02, 2019

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