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| 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by Iseoluwani: 8:58pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
1. We are quick to judge their lifestyle, and talk about sin. Atheists aren’t saved. This may seem obvious, but sometimes we spend more time pointing them to their sin instead of pointing them to the Savior: “While it’s no secret that God doesn’t want us to sin, if you look at the life of Jesus and the words on His lips, He is overwhelmingly in favor of talking about how much God loves people, rather than their nightlife.” 2)We minimize a hurt in their life that they expected God to fix. Most atheists have experienced a time in their lives when they believe that God didn’t come through for them. A family member got sick and wasn’t healed. A relationship fell apart despite their prayers. A church treated them badly. We must not minimize their pain or dismiss it. Instead, we need to take the time to listen to them about it. 3)We are unprepared to talk about money and the Church. You shouldn’t be surprised if an atheist brings up the topic of money mismanagement or greed in the church. They’ve seen tons of news stories about this, and they’ll ask you about it. Be prepared to discuss the tithe and its true purpose: “not because He needs our money, but because He cares about where our heart is in relation to it.” 4)We rush to talk about God, often uninvited. Baker cites this as the biggest mistake he used to make. He tried to force God into every conversation with his atheist friends. Instead, he says, we must be in relationship with atheists until they have a question. We should pray for God to give us opportunities instead of making them. 5)We invite them to church, instead of inviting them to our house. According to Baker, the “church invitation” has taken on very negative connotations. He offers a different approach: “If you really want to see and hear a great message about God, show them your family life and your hospitality. If you can’t show them God through either of these, than you have no business inviting them to church in the first place.” Pastor Joe McKeever thinks that most Christians could learn about talking with atheists from an unexpected source—their own past: “Most of the solid believers I know have considered atheism at one time or other. I did, while in college. This is not to say I joined the humanist society of Birmingham or majored in skepticism at Birmingham-Southern. But I read some of the stuff, talked to a few of the people, thought about the ramifications of it all, and made my choice to take my stand with believers. “I’ve never regretted it. “Here’s why. “1) As a rule, atheists tend to be a pretty miserable lot, while the best Christians I know are also the most put-together, positive, and effective people in the room. “I heard someone say once, ‘The devil has no godly old people.’ Indeed. We could add that the Lord also seems to have all the best-mannered, generous-hearted, goal-oriented achievers. If you look at the product of atheism and Christianity, there is no contest.” 6).Listen deeply for the real “why.” Often atheists have a reason (other than “reason“) for becoming atheists. Listen for it. Sometimes it’s anger over losing a loved one. Other times it’s that they were hurt by the church in some way. But often there’s a “why” behind the lie they are embracing. In John 4 Jesus masterfully attacked the why behind the lie that the woman at the well was embracing. She was not an atheist but a hedonist who thought that satisfaction could be found if she finally found the right guy. But Jesus offers her living water to satisfy her deepest needs and, finally, her thirst was fully quenched. James shared with me about his upbringing in England and his regular attendance at The Church of England. He told me about how his wife had left him and how he could only see his kids every other weekend. James shared how he reads at least a book a week and how he loses himself in novels. As he shared I couldn’t quite nail why he was an atheist but I could sense that he was a lonely man. My heart went out to him and I think he could sense my sympathy. 7). Connect relationally. Atheists are real people with real feelings. They laugh, cry, talk and connect like anyone else. I think that too many times Christians treat atheists as objects and not people. James and I joked together as we sparred each other. I listened to him and he listened to me. Bottom line is that I like James. He is an interesting guy with an interesting story. We should heed Paul’s reminder to Timothy about how to deal with those who disagree with us theologically, “Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.” 2 Timothy 2:23-26  Assume that, down deep inside, they do believe in God.I don’t think I’ve ever met anyone who genuinely rejects the existence of God. Sure, I’ve met many who have claimed God’s existence to be a lie but I’m convinced that, down deep inside, they really do believe there’s a God. Why do I believe that? Because Scripture makes it clear in Romans 1:18-21 that there are no real atheists, “The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.” They may try to suppress their belief in God but, sooner or later in the discussion, atheists say something like, “Well if God is so good then why does he allow….” This is the point in the conversation where they have “forgotten” their atheism and revealed some of their challenges with, not the reality of God, but the nature of God. When you assume that an atheist does really believe in the existence of God it gives you the freedom not to have to prove God’s existence but to share God’s story. You can be sure that, down deep inside, the gospel is churning in the soul of the atheist. 9).Frame the gospel as a love story (that just happens to be true.) When I shared the gospel with James I wasn’t trying to prove God’s existence I was simply sharing the story of God’s love. I said something like, “James, at the core of Christianity is a love story. Jesus put it this way, ‘For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son that whoever believes in him will not perish but has everlasting life.’” I could tell that James was intrigued by this view. He listened respectfully and asked thoughtful questions. Yes, I dipped into some apologetics at this point (C.S. Lewis’ Lord, lunatic or liar argument, Teleological argument, etc) but only after I had framed the gospel as a love story. In the words of my friend Bill Jack, too many times too many Christians use apologetics as a sledge hammer instead of a crowbar to pry open closed minds. As a result the conversation turns argumentative instead of respectful. James and I had a respectful conversation where I heard him and he heard the good news of Jesus. My job is not to lead him to Jesus but to “set forth the truth plainly” and let the Spirit of God take it from there. James didn’t say the sinner’s prayer when the plane pulled up to the gate after landing. But I believe that somewhere between Denver and St. Louis the Spirit of God nudged him closer to Jesus. It is my prayer that, in God’s perfect time, he will cross the line of faith and receive Jesus as his Savior. Let’s love the atheists we encounter as we humbly and gently introduce them to the God who loves them even more. I wish this guy's we will come to the knowledge of God God bless 1 Like |
| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by Nobody: 9:14pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
If you really want to help an atheist accept God, forget all that stuff about showing him your family and relating with him. Just prove without a doubt that God exist. No need for long theological lectures just provide simple proof unambiguous proof. Believe it or not but not every atheist discarded religion because of some let down. Some were just convinced by simple logic, most atheist have studied your holy scriptures they know more about your religion than you do. 4 Likes |
| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by Tellemall: 9:22pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
Who cares about atheists? In all you've said, you forget that atheists aren't completely clueless. In their quest to be more educated about disproving God they have become familiar with everything necessary to save their souls. They just hate it and fight it. 99.9% of them were once religious, anyway. Why bother preaching to somebody who knows these things but refuses to believe? You can lead the horse to the river but you cannot make it drink. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by Iseoluwani: 9:32pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
Lennycool: Mine isn't religion it's a RELATIONSHIP. knowing God and what He stands for, Who he is and how to fellowship with him Phil 3:10 that I may know him and the power of his resurrection 1 Like |
| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by Iseoluwani: 9:35pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
Tellemall: I agree with all what you have said apart from the bolded question The basic foundation of Christianity is simply LOVE. SO SINCE GOD LOVES I ALSO LOVE THEM AND HOPING THAT ONE DAY THEY WILL BE SAVED |
| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by Iseoluwani: 9:36pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
Tellemall: I agree with all what you have said apart from the bolded question The basic foundation of Christianity is simply LOVE. SO SINCE GOD LOVES me, I ALSO LOVE THEM AND HOPING THAT ONE DAY THEY WILL BE SAVED |
| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by sonofluc1fer: 9:36pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
Iseoluwani:Yeah, yeah, a relatioship with a Jew who died over 2,000 years ago in far away Israel. If you dont call it a religion, then it becomes a mental case. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by sonofluc1fer: 9:38pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
Iseoluwani:Christianity is a scam. There is no love in dying for my sins without my permission. I want to sin.  5 Likes |
| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by Iseoluwani: 9:45pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
sonofluc1fer: You should have quoted me completely. A Phil 3:10 that I may know him and the power of his resurrection sonofluc1fer: He died for your sin to safe you. Romans 5:8 :but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. |
| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by afanide: 9:53pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
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| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by sonofluc1fer: 9:56pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
Iseoluwani:Na, he died for his mistakes and joblessness. A 30 year old man who walked into weddings and turned water to wine.. If na you, you go drink? A 30 year old man who walked around with 12 men, just making noise up and dan the village, even spoiling market one day? Im village people tire for the matter, carry the guy man hang for cross, u say na my sins im die for? No kill me with laff abeg. Take a look at a map. You're in a small country off the coast of West Africa. Try to locate Israel on that map and estimate the distance between you and Israel. Think about the number of cultures, governments, people, histories and stories that you'd journey through if you were to trek to Israel by foot. So someone who was killed in one small village there was dying for your sins? I pity you. 7 Likes 3 Shares |
| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by Iseoluwani: 10:03pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
sonofluc1fer: This serves as your answer. Arguing with you will be a mistake on my part 1Corthians 1:18-25 18 ESV:For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 ESV:For it is written, “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the discernment of the discerning I will thwart.” 20 ESV:Where is the one who is wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21 ESV:For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom, it pleased God through the folly of what we preach to save those who believe. 22 ESV:For Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom, 23 ESV:but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles, 24 ESV:but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 ESV:For the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men. 1 Like |
| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by hopefulLandlord: 10:11pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
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| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by felixomor: 10:30pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
Lennycool: Na wa for "logic" and "study holy scriptures" Pls which logic shows that there is no God?  2 Likes |
| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by EyeHateGod: 10:32pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
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| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by honourhim: 11:03pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
OP, while i understand and appreciate your love for lost souls let me state here that you dont need to worry yourself much about atheists. Its quite idiotic for someone to begin to feel he is better than me just because he doesnt believe in God. Really idiotic. I ve asked atheists to outline what i will gain if i should become an atheist and none of them have been able to present any tangible thing except the usual useless lines they give. Atheism is simply- unbelief in God and nothing more. It doesnt mean intelligence, nor wealth. It does not also translate into achievement in life. A miserable atheist who has little or nothing to show as achievement in life will come here and be posing superiority just because he does not believe in God. SMH for them. Pls dont bow down to their stupidity. While you can pray for their salvation and even discuss with them when the need arises that doesnt mean they are one set of superior beings. Honestly you people have time to even go as far as researching how best to approach them. You tried but i still advise that you dont bow to their stupid feeling of superiority. Atheism remains worthless and useless to people like me. However, i commend your passion for soul winning. God bless you. |
| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by winner01(m): 11:46pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
Iseoluwani:Me neither. If they were so convinced about God not existing, they wont be so bothered. Great piece oP. God bless you. 2 Likes |
| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by Iseoluwani: 7:15am On Oct 07, 2016 |
Eph 1:17-21 ESV:that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you the Spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him, 18 ESV:having the eyes of your hearts enlightened, that you may know what is the hope to which he has called you, what are the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, 19 ESV:and what is the immeasurable greatness of his power toward us who believe, according to the working of his great might 20 ESV:that he worked in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places, 21 ESV:far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and above every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come. |
| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by Iseoluwani: 7:16am On Oct 07, 2016 |
No one is born an atheist. People choose to become atheists as much as they choose to become Christians. And no matter how strenuously some may try to deny it, atheism is a belief system. It requires faith that God does not exist. When dialoguing with atheists, it is helpful to point out the logical problems inherent in their belief system. If you succeed in showing an atheist the natural outcome of some of his (or her) main claims and arguments, you are in a much better position to share the gospel with him. Let us consider two prime examples here. (1) "There is no God." Some atheists categorically state that there is no God, and all atheists, by definition, believe it. And yet, this assertion is logically indefensible. A person would have to be omniscient and omnipresent to be able to say from his own pool of knowledge that there is no God. Only someone who is capable of being in all places at the same time - with a perfect knowledge of all that is in the universe - can make such a statement based on the facts. To put it another way, a person would have to be God in order to say there is no God. This point can be forcefully emphasized by asking the atheist if he has ever visited the Library of Congress in Washington D.C. Mention that the library presently contains over 70 million items (books, magazines, journals, etc.). Also point out that hundreds of thousands of these were written by scholars and specialists in the various academic fields. Then ask the following question: "What percentage of the collective knowledge recorded in the volumes in this library would you say are within your own pool of knowledge and experience?" The atheist will likely respond, "I don't know. I guess a fraction of one percent." You can then ask: "Do you think it is logically possible that God may exist in the 99.9 percent that is outside your pool of knowledge and experience?" Even if the atheist refuses to admit the possibility, you have made your point and he knows it. |
| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by Iseoluwani: 7:20am On Oct 07, 2016 |
(2) "I don't believe in God because there is so much evil in the world." Many atheists consider the problem of evil an airtight proof that God does not exist. They often say something like: "I know there is no God because if He existed, He never would have let Hitler murder six million Jews." A good approach to an argument like this is to say something to this effect: "Since you brought up this issue, the burden lies on you to prove that evil actually exists in the world. So let me ask you: by what criteria do you judge some things to be evil and other things not to be evil? By what process do you distinguish evil from good?" The atheist may hedge and say: "I just know that some things are evil. It's obvious." Don't accept such an evasive answer. Insist that he tell you how he knows that some things are evil. He must be forced to face the illogical foundation of his belief system. After he struggles with this a few moments, point out to him that it is impossible to distinguish evil from good unless one has an infinite reference point which is absolutely good. Otherwise one is like a boat at sea on a cloudy night without a compass (i.e., there would be no way to distinguish north from south without the absolute reference point of the compass needle). The infinite reference point for distinguishing good from evil can only be found in the person of God, for God alone can exhaust the definition of "absolutely good." If God does not exist, then there are no moral absolutes by which one has the right to judge something (or someone) as being evil. More specifically, if God does not exist, there is no ultimate basis to judge the crimes of Hitler. Seen in this light, the reality of evil actually requires the existence of God, rather than disproving it. At this point, the atheist may raise the objection that if God does in fact exist, then why hasn't He dealt with the problem of evil in the world. You can disarm this objection by pointing out that God is dealing with the problem of evil, but in a progressive way. The false assumption on the part of the atheist is that God's only choice is to deal with evil all at once in a single act. God, however, is dealing with the problem of evil throughout all human history. One day in the future, Christ will return, strip power away from the wicked, and hold all men and women accountable for the things they did during their time on earth. Justice will ultimately prevail. Those who enter eternity without having trusted in Christ for salvation will understand just how effectively God has dealt with the problem of evil. If the atheist responds that it shouldn't take all of human history for an omnipotent God to solve the problem of evil, you might respond by saying: "Ok. Let's do it your way. Hypothetically speaking, let's say that at this very moment, God declared that all evil in the world will now simply cease to exist. Every human being on the planet - present company included - would simply vanish into oblivion. Would this solution be preferable to you?" The atheist may argue that a better solution must surely be available. He may even suggest that God could have created man in such a way that man would never sin, thus avoiding evil altogether. This idea can be countered by pointing out that such a scenario would mean that man is no longer man. He would no longer have the capacity to make choices. This scenario would require that God create robots who act only in programmed ways. If the atheist persists and says there must be a better solution to the problem of evil, suggest a simple test. Give him about five minutes to formulate a solution to the problem of evil that (1) does not destroy human freedom, or (2) cause God to violate His nature (e.g., His attributes of absolute holiness, justice, and mercy) in some way. After five minutes, ask him what he came up with. Don't expect much of an answer. Your goal, of course, is not simply to tear down the atheist's belief system. After demonstrating some of the logical impossibilities of his claims, share with him some of the logical evidence for redemption in Jesus Christ, and the infinite benefits that it brings. Perhaps through your witness and prayers his faith in atheism will be overturned by a newfound faith in Christ. (An article from the Witnessing Tips column of the Christian Research Journal, Winter/Spring 1989, page 7.) |
| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by Iseoluwani: 7:22am On Oct 07, 2016 |
sonofluc1fer: A simple question for you Why do you worship lucifer? |
| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by sonofluc1fer: 7:27am On Oct 07, 2016 |
Iseoluwani:I don't worship Lucifer. I'm an atheist. |
| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by Iseoluwani: 7:33am On Oct 07, 2016 |
sonofluc1fer: You think yu dont. ?Then y does your handle includes lucifer Simple : Either you worship God or Lucifer. Nothing can ever exist in a vacuum. |
| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by hopefulLandlord: 7:37am On Oct 07, 2016 |
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| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by sonofluc1fer: 7:39am On Oct 07, 2016 |
Iseoluwani:Jesus was a Lucifer too. It's in that pack of lies you call the Bible. The worst legacy of slavery is how it destroyed your understanding and definition of God. 1 Like |
| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by Iseoluwani: 7:51am On Oct 07, 2016 |
[quote author=hopefulLandlord post=49987535][/quote] Since there is difference between atheism and Satanism And your friend claims to be an atheist. Then y did e include Lucifer his username? It either he doesn't understand the concept in which atheism envolves or either of the two Well you guys are facing a real hard disproving about God. Simply because of your self deception and disillusion Mr Garvin claims that … the proper application of modern science persuaded me that my atheism was a nonintellectual exercise in self-deception. … and that is indeed a rather odd claim to advocate for the embrace of ideas that have exactly zero independently verifiable objective evidence to validate them. I must confess to being curious about such a stance, perhaps I’ve not understood something fundamental and my stance is wrong, so let’s take a brief look at what he is saying … I think my atheism was a highly intellectualized form of adolescent rebellion. Can you disapprove this? I bet you cannot. But before you disapprove it. Read it well |
| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by Iseoluwani: 7:57am On Oct 07, 2016 |
sonofluc1fer: SMH. |
| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by hopefulLandlord: 8:01am On Oct 07, 2016 |
Iseoluwani: because it alone ridicules the concept of both your imaginary friend and imaginary enemy
the onus is on you to prove your god not us to disprove it I can claim I have an invisible unicorn that's sitting on my invisible Biro then tell you that since you can't disprove it, it must be true
like I said, the onus is on theists to prove god not us disproving, that's why we are atheists, there's no proof for the existence of any god so far
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| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by Iseoluwani: 8:10am On Oct 07, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: Atheism is, as the name suggests, the denial or rejection of theism. For present purposes I will take theism to be the belief that God exist. The fool has said in his heart, ‘There is no God’” (Ps. 14:1; 53:1). This fool is not an intellectual fool but a moral fool, not a person with mental problems but one who displays moral foolishness because of the corruption of his nature. This fool is not one who cannot reason, but one who reasons wrongly. It is not that the man does not know but that he rejects obvious knowledge, a rejection anchored in the depravity of his own heart. Inescapable knowledge of the true God is suppressed. Deliberately and maliciously the atheist says: “No God”; deliberately and unhesitatingly God responds: “Fool!” In response to atheism and to all other intellectual positions of skepticism and doubt, the Christian theist, by faith, boldly and confidently proclaims: “God is!” According to the Scriptures, the position of the atheist is not a sincere position. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse (Rom. 1:20, NKJV); For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse (Rom. 1:20, ESV). The atheist is not sincere because he is rejecting that which is obvious. “The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament shows His handiwork” and this declaration and showing occurs day and night: “There is no speech nor language where their voice is not heard” (Ps. 19:1-3). Indications of God’s existence are not obscure; they are everywhere. |
| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by Iseoluwani: 8:14am On Oct 07, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: So obvious are the indications that the person who denies them has no justification for his position. Job says that the beasts, birds, and fish can give testimony that God is and that God acts (Job 12:7-9). Their very existence proclaims His Being. All leaves, both those attached to vegetation and those that have fallen to the ground, attest to their Creator; every single leaf is irrefutable evidence for the existence of God—but how seldom is such evidence even considered. But the leaves are silent and continual testimonies to Him, and if they exist, then He must exist. Creation makes it impossible for anyone to say there is no God, for creation simply confirms what man already knows. All of creation testifies that it has come to be and exists because God is. Statements in Romans, Psalms, and Job are not given as an attempt to win belief on the part of man by rational argument but simply as declarations of fact. The tenor of Scripture is that the truth of these declarations is obvious; only the fool would think otherwise (see: The God of Creation). God’s existence is undeniable; God “cannot be unknown in his existence” (Charnock, E and A, I, 26). Where is the group of people that has rejected a higher power? What culture has made atheism its religion? Admittedly, atheism may have been voiced at times by some in power, but never has such an official policy become the thinking of the masses. Even Satan did not tempt man to deny God’s existence, but the evil one tempted man with the desire to be like God. All men do not hold to the monotheism of the Christian faith, but all men worship; they worship whatever they perceive to be greater than themselves, whatever it is that they desire to invoke to assist them in living. In every age man has worshipped, worshipped someone or something greater than himself. The worship may be a perversion of true worship but all worship exists as testimony to man’s need for and belief in One greater than himself. Man’s outward religion manifests his inward conviction. Only the fool says that there is no God (see: The Aloneness of Atheism). Holy, holy, holy is the Lord of hosts; The whole earth is full of His glory! Isa. 6:3 I am sure that you are not reading this because all you want to do is disprove God |
| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by hopefulLandlord: 8:18am On Oct 07, 2016 |
Iseoluwani:I'm a fool for not believing in your Skydaddy? Stop raping me with tales from your archaic Jewish folklore, so his proof is that its written in a book? so if I write a book on my invisible Unicorn sitting on my invisible Biro, you'll just accept it to be true? abeg no bust my bele with laugh this morning I'm just taking it easy now because you sound new to this religion section or hasn't been here for a long time 1 Like
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| Re: 9 Big Things We Get Wrong When Talking To Atheists About God by Iseoluwani: 8:23am On Oct 07, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: Atheism is FAITH believing that there is no God. Christianity is FAITH THAT there is God Hebrews 11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him. |
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