₦airaland Forum

ZanyABC:
NOW THAT THE CONTROVERSY REGARDING THE RECENT 'CRACKDOWN' ON JUDGES IS OVER: WHAT NEXT?
If you have money, you can really take advantage of government in this country. There is too much noise; too much sentiments and little 'intelligent conversation'. At the end of day, everything is swept under the carpet.
Notwithstanding where each of us stood regarding the last saturday's crackdown on judges, I am sure EVERY Nigerian now worries about how to get the judges convicted, if truly they are gulty.
NOW imagine what people are talking about! Let's even assume that the arrest of the judges meets the standard of law, are we going to get them convicted with all these conversation people are having?
What conversations am I talking about? DSS has been releasing 'evidence' against the judges and here are some of them: a list of 'monies' recovered from judges' bedrooms; the fact that a Rolls Royce was found in a judge's compound, the fact that a judge has 15 cars, the fact that a judge has several properties...etc
You call these ones evidence of corruption? DSS must be joking.
In which part of the law is keeping money at home a crime? Even if you keep N200 billion in your house, that in itself is not corruption. It does not take a brilliant lawyer few days to come up with some explanations for you.
In which section of the law is owing a Rolls Royce a crime? There are a thousand and one legitinate ways to own a Rolls Royce. Could be a birthday gift from your daughter's man. Could be proceeds of business. If DSS finds 1000 Rolls Royce in a person's house, that is not proof of corruption. Even if you own all the houses in Nigeria, that is not a crime. We should stop asking people to come and explain how they got XYZ amount of money! That is the easiest way to lose a corruption case.
If this is what you guys did forJames Ibori, Stella Odua, Joshua Dariye, and others, I am not surprised these guys were not convicted. Little wonder all corruption cases don't end up in conviction. If anyone goes to court with peripheral information such as these, no judge will grant a conviction.
The proceed of corruption can be used to buy a bicycle or nothing; and that does change the fact that it is corruption. The proceeds of corruption may have been spent patapata. Meaning even if DSS found no money in the judge's houses, that does not affect a case of corruption in any significant way.
The real evidence we need are evidence of people who paid brides to the judge; the evidence of a go-between; Audio and video record of the process from negotiations to dropping of the cash to the judge. Fundamentally inciminating evidence from the judge call logs to go-betweens, and several other evidence. So far I am yet to see 5% of the evidence needed to establish corruption.
Let's stop talking about Rolls Royce or foreign currencies. That is not how to prove corruption. These are evidence that gives DSS a reasonable suspicion to effect arrest and carry out investigation; that is not the evidence to prove corruption.
I hope this will help our excitement. We always get too excited about weightless information like this. What has happened to Stella Odua, Fayose, Allynson Madueke and many others with all the figures that were put in the media. Gbenga Daniel nko? How about Dimeji Bankole? Assuming Jonathan spared them, why hasn't Buhari convicted any of them?
When the Federal Government sued Saraki and Ekweremadu for forgery, I remember stating it on this platform on my Wall that the evidence are not sufficient. Now the case has been withdrawn. A person can benefit from forgery without being guilty of it.
Guys we are too learned to allow security agencies to confuse us. Let DSS produce the real evidence.
NOW IS MY POSITION:
Let's ask DSS for the real evidence. Even if they are not producing it to the press, let them demonstrate that they have it.
- A judge travelled to Ghana or Niger to collect bribe!
-Who told them?
-Any video or audio to that effect?
-Whose bribe did the judge go there to collect?
-Any statement by the person who gave him the bribe?
-How must is the bribe collected?
-For what purpose was it collected?
-Is it about a case?
-Who are the parties to the case?
-Have you interviewed them?
By asking these questions instead of getting so excited about the foreign corrency especially and the Rolls Royce, we will help DSS a great deal.
2. Secondly let's advise DSS to go back to NJC. They should present their allegations to NJC. It is better if the affected judges are suspended or removed while they are facing prosecution. Otherwise a Supreme Court judge will leave the dock in the morning and sit to hear a case in the afternoon. That is not too good. That is why it is always better to have a judge face disciplinary action even if it is suspension before their prosecution.
I hope this changes our conversation a little

Liability:
We yoruba muslims are sorry for voting in buhari

bcomputer101:
shut up and speak for yourself alone.
#Ode

Mujaheeeden:
Modath passingshot hungerbad come and see how this government disgraces you daily

seniorkachion:
This govt sure knows how to divert attention from its failures.

Eketem:
Good for Nigerians they always fall for the drama

ZanyABC:
NOW THAT THE CONTROVERSY REGARDING THE RECENT 'CRACKDOWN' ON JUDGES IS OVER: WHAT NEXT?
If you have money, you can really take advantage of government in this country. There is too much noise; too much sentiments and little 'intelligent conversation'. At the end of day, everything is swept under the carpet.
Notwithstanding where each of us stood regarding the last saturday's crackdown on judges, I am sure EVERY Nigerian now worries about how to get the judges convicted, if truly they are gulty.
NOW imagine what people are talking about! Let's even assume that the arrest of the judges meets the standard of law, are we going to get them convicted with all these conversation people are having?
What conversations am I talking about? DSS has been releasing 'evidence' against the judges and here are some of them: a list of 'monies' recovered from judges' bedrooms; the fact that a Rolls Royce was found in a judge's compound, the fact that a judge has 15 cars, the fact that a judge has several properties...etc
You call these ones evidence of corruption? DSS must be joking.
In which part of the law is keeping money at home a crime? Even if you keep N200 billion in your house, that in itself is not corruption. It does not take a brilliant lawyer few days to come up with some explanations for you.
In which section of the law is owing a Rolls Royce a crime? There are a thousand and one legitinate ways to own a Rolls Royce. Could be a birthday gift from your daughter's man. Could be proceeds of business. If DSS finds 1000 Rolls Royce in a person's house, that is not proof of corruption. Even if you own all the houses in Nigeria, that is not a crime. We should stop asking people to come and explain how they got XYZ amount of money! That is the easiest way to lose a corruption case.
If this is what you guys did forJames Ibori, Stella Odua, Joshua Dariye, and others, I am not surprised these guys were not convicted. Little wonder all corruption cases don't end up in conviction. If anyone goes to court with peripheral information such as these, no judge will grant a conviction.
The proceed of corruption can be used to buy a bicycle or nothing; and that does change the fact that it is corruption. The proceeds of corruption may have been spent patapata. Meaning even if DSS found no money in the judge's houses, that does not affect a case of corruption in any significant way.
The real evidence we need are evidence of people who paid brides to the judge; the evidence of a go-between; Audio and video record of the process from negotiations to dropping of the cash to the judge. Fundamentally inciminating evidence from the judge call logs to go-betweens, and several other evidence. So far I am yet to see 5% of the evidence needed to establish corruption.
Let's stop talking about Rolls Royce or foreign currencies. That is not how to prove corruption. These are evidence that gives DSS a reasonable suspicion to effect arrest and carry out investigation; that is not the evidence to prove corruption.
I hope this will help our excitement. We always get too excited about weightless information like this. What has happened to Stella Odua, Fayose, Allynson Madueke and many others with all the figures that were put in the media. Gbenga Daniel nko? How about Dimeji Bankole? Assuming Jonathan spared them, why hasn't Buhari convicted any of them?
When the Federal Government sued Saraki and Ekweremadu for forgery, I remember stating it on this platform on my Wall that the evidence are not sufficient. Now the case has been withdrawn. A person can benefit from forgery without being guilty of it.
Guys we are too learned to allow security agencies to confuse us. Let DSS produce the real evidence.
NOW IS MY POSITION:
Let's ask DSS for the real evidence. Even if they are not producing it to the press, let them demonstrate that they have it.
- A judge travelled to Ghana or Niger to collect bribe!
-Who told them?
-Any video or audio to that effect?
-Whose bribe did the judge go there to collect?
-Any statement by the person who gave him the bribe?
-How must is the bribe collected?
-For what purpose was it collected?
-Is it about a case?
-Who are the parties to the case?
-Have you interviewed them?
By asking these questions instead of getting so excited about the foreign corrency especially and the Rolls Royce, we will help DSS a great deal.
2. Secondly let's advise DSS to go back to NJC. They should present their allegations to NJC. It is better if the affected judges are suspended or removed while they are facing prosecution. Otherwise a Supreme Court judge will leave the dock in the morning and sit to hear a case in the afternoon. That is not too good. That is why it is always better to have a judge face disciplinary action even if it is suspension before their prosecution.
I hope this changes our conversation a little

ZanyABC:
NOW THAT THE CONTROVERSY REGARDING THE RECENT 'CRACKDOWN' ON JUDGES IS OVER: WHAT NEXT?
If you have money, you can really take advantage of government in this country. There is too much noise; too much sentiments and little 'intelligent conversation'. At the end of day, everything is swept under the carpet.
Notwithstanding where each of us stood regarding the last saturday's crackdown on judges, I am sure EVERY Nigerian now worries about how to get the judges convicted, if truly they are gulty.
NOW imagine what people are talking about! Let's even assume that the arrest of the judges meets the standard of law, are we going to get them convicted with all these conversation people are having?
What conversations am I talking about? DSS has been releasing 'evidence' against the judges and here are some of them: a list of 'monies' recovered from judges' bedrooms; the fact that a Rolls Royce was found in a judge's compound, the fact that a judge has 15 cars, the fact that a judge has several properties...etc
You call these ones evidence of corruption? DSS must be joking.
In which part of the law is keeping money at home a crime? Even if you keep N200 billion in your house, that in itself is not corruption. It does not take a brilliant lawyer few days to come up with some explanations for you.
In which section of the law is owing a Rolls Royce a crime? There are a thousand and one legitinate ways to own a Rolls Royce. Could be a birthday gift from your daughter's man. Could be proceeds of business. If DSS finds 1000 Rolls Royce in a person's house, that is not proof of corruption. Even if you own all the houses in Nigeria, that is not a crime. We should stop asking people to come and explain how they got XYZ amount of money! That is the easiest way to lose a corruption case.
If this is what you guys did forJames Ibori, Stella Odua, Joshua Dariye, and others, I am not surprised these guys were not convicted. Little wonder all corruption cases don't end up in conviction. If anyone goes to court with peripheral information such as these, no judge will grant a conviction.
The proceed of corruption can be used to buy a bicycle or nothing; and that does change the fact that it is corruption. The proceeds of corruption may have been spent patapata. Meaning even if DSS found no money in the judge's houses, that does not affect a case of corruption in any significant way.
The real evidence we need are evidence of people who paid brides to the judge; the evidence of a go-between; Audio and video record of the process from negotiations to dropping of the cash to the judge. Fundamentally inciminating evidence from the judge call logs to go-betweens, and several other evidence. So far I am yet to see 5% of the evidence needed to establish corruption.
Let's stop talking about Rolls Royce or foreign currencies. That is not how to prove corruption. These are evidence that gives DSS a reasonable suspicion to effect arrest and carry out investigation; that is not the evidence to prove corruption.
I hope this will help our excitement. We always get too excited about weightless information like this. What has happened to Stella Odua, Fayose, Allynson Madueke and many others with all the figures that were put in the media. Gbenga Daniel nko? How about Dimeji Bankole? Assuming Jonathan spared them, why hasn't Buhari convicted any of them?
When the Federal Government sued Saraki and Ekweremadu for forgery, I remember stating it on this platform on my Wall that the evidence are not sufficient. Now the case has been withdrawn. A person can benefit from forgery without being guilty of it.
Guys we are too learned to allow security agencies to confuse us. Let DSS produce the real evidence.
NOW IS MY POSITION:
Let's ask DSS for the real evidence. Even if they are not producing it to the press, let them demonstrate that they have it.
- A judge travelled to Ghana or Niger to collect bribe!
-Who told them?
-Any video or audio to that effect?
-Whose bribe did the judge go there to collect?
-Any statement by the person who gave him the bribe?
-How must is the bribe collected?
-For what purpose was it collected?
-Is it about a case?
-Who are the parties to the case?
-Have you interviewed them?
By asking these questions instead of getting so excited about the foreign corrency especially and the Rolls Royce, we will help DSS a great deal.
2. Secondly let's advise DSS to go back to NJC. They should present their allegations to NJC. It is better if the affected judges are suspended or removed while they are facing prosecution. Otherwise a Supreme Court judge will leave the dock in the morning and sit to hear a case in the afternoon. That is not too good. That is why it is always better to have a judge face disciplinary action even if it is suspension before their prosecution.
I hope this changes our conversation a little

sdindan:
End of the drama.

APC will soon bring another move that will take us to next week.

Liability:
We yoruba muslims are sorry for voting in buhari

ZanyABC:
[s]NOW THAT THE CONTROVERSY REGARDING THE RECENT 'CRACKDOWN' ON JUDGES IS OVER: WHAT NEXT?
If you have money, you can really take advantage of government in this country. There is too much noise; too much sentiments and little 'intelligent conversation'. At the end of day, everything is swept under the carpet.
Notwithstanding where each of us stood regarding the last saturday's crackdown on judges, I am sure EVERY Nigerian now worries about how to get the judges convicted, if truly they are gulty.
NOW imagine what people are talking about! Let's even assume that the arrest of the judges meets the standard of law, are we going to get them convicted with all these conversation people are having?
What conversations am I talking about? DSS has been releasing 'evidence' against the judges and here are some of them: a list of 'monies' recovered from judges' bedrooms; the fact that a Rolls Royce was found in a judge's compound, the fact that a judge has 15 cars, the fact that a judge has several properties...etc
You call these ones evidence of corruption? DSS must be joking.
In which part of the law is keeping money at home a crime? Even if you keep N200 billion in your house, that in itself is not corruption. It does not take a brilliant lawyer few days to come up with some explanations for you.
In which section of the law is owing a Rolls Royce a crime? There are a thousand and one legitinate ways to own a Rolls Royce. Could be a birthday gift from your daughter's man. Could be proceeds of business. If DSS finds 1000 Rolls Royce in a person's house, that is not proof of corruption. Even if you own all the houses in Nigeria, that is not a crime. We should stop asking people to come and explain how they got XYZ amount of money! That is the easiest way to lose a corruption case.
If this is what you guys did forJames Ibori, Stella Odua, Joshua Dariye, and others, I am not surprised these guys were not convicted. Little wonder all corruption cases don't end up in conviction. If anyone goes to court with peripheral information such as these, no judge will grant a conviction.
The proceed of corruption can be used to buy a bicycle or nothing; and that does change the fact that it is corruption. The proceeds of corruption may have been spent patapata. Meaning even if DSS found no money in the judge's houses, that does not affect a case of corruption in any significant way.
The real evidence we need are evidence of people who paid brides to the judge; the evidence of a go-between; Audio and video record of the process from negotiations to dropping of the cash to the judge. Fundamentally inciminating evidence from the judge call logs to go-betweens, and several other evidence. So far I am yet to see 5% of the evidence needed to establish corruption.
Let's stop talking about Rolls Royce or foreign currencies. That is not how to prove corruption. These are evidence that gives DSS a reasonable suspicion to effect arrest and carry out investigation; that is not the evidence to prove corruption.
I hope this will help our excitement. We always get too excited about weightless information like this. What has happened to Stella Odua, Fayose, Allynson Madueke and many others with all the figures that were put in the media. Gbenga Daniel nko? How about Dimeji Bankole? Assuming Jonathan spared them, why hasn't Buhari convicted any of them?
When the Federal Government sued Saraki and Ekweremadu for forgery, I remember stating it on this platform on my Wall that the evidence are not sufficient. Now the case has been withdrawn. A person can benefit from forgery without being guilty of it.
Guys we are too learned to allow security agencies to confuse us. Let DSS produce the real evidence.
NOW IS MY POSITION:
Let's ask DSS for the real evidence. Even if they are not producing it to the press, let them demonstrate that they have it.
- A judge travelled to Ghana or Niger to collect bribe!
-Who told them?
-Any video or audio to that effect?
-Whose bribe did the judge go there to collect?
-Any statement by the person who gave him the bribe?
-How must is the bribe collected?
-For what purpose was it collected?
-Is it about a case?
-Who are the parties to the case?
-Have you interviewed them?
By asking these questions instead of getting so excited about the foreign corrency especially and the Rolls Royce, we will help DSS a great deal.
2. Secondly let's advise DSS to go back to NJC. They should present their allegations to NJC. It is better if the affected judges are suspended or removed while they are facing prosecution. Otherwise a Supreme Court judge will leave the dock in the morning and sit to hear a case in the afternoon. That is not too good. That is why it is always better to have a judge face disciplinary action even if it is suspension before their prosecution.
I hope this changes our conversation a [/s]little

PEPPERified:
Buhari always showing himself. Clueless and dull totalitarian.


Always proving to the world that you are completely clueless and dumb.

ZanyABC:
NOW THAT THE CONTROVERSY REGARDING THE RECENT 'CRACKDOWN' ON JUDGES IS OVER: WHAT NEXT?
If you have money, you can really take advantage of government in this country. There is too much noise; too much sentiments and little 'intelligent conversation'. At the end of day, everything is swept under the carpet.
Notwithstanding where each of us stood regarding the last saturday's crackdown on judges, I am sure EVERY Nigerian now worries about how to get the judges convicted, if truly they are gulty.
NOW imagine what people are talking about! Let's even assume that the arrest of the judges meets the standard of law, are we going to get them convicted with all these conversation people are having?
What conversations am I talking about? DSS has been releasing 'evidence' against the judges and here are some of them: a list of 'monies' recovered from judges' bedrooms; the fact that a Rolls Royce was found in a judge's compound, the fact that a judge has 15 cars, the fact that a judge has several properties...etc
You call these ones evidence of corruption? DSS must be joking.
In which part of the law is keeping money at home a crime? Even if you keep N200 billion in your house, that in itself is not corruption. It does not take a brilliant lawyer few days to come up with some explanations for you.
In which section of the law is owing a Rolls Royce a crime? There are a thousand and one legitinate ways to own a Rolls Royce. Could be a birthday gift from your daughter's man. Could be proceeds of business. If DSS finds 1000 Rolls Royce in a person's house, that is not proof of corruption. Even if you own all the houses in Nigeria, that is not a crime. We should stop asking people to come and explain how they got XYZ amount of money! That is the easiest way to lose a corruption case.
If this is what you guys did forJames Ibori, Stella Odua, Joshua Dariye, and others, I am not surprised these guys were not convicted. Little wonder all corruption cases don't end up in conviction. If anyone goes to court with peripheral information such as these, no judge will grant a conviction.
The proceed of corruption can be used to buy a bicycle or nothing; and that does change the fact that it is corruption. The proceeds of corruption may have been spent patapata. Meaning even if DSS found no money in the judge's houses, that does not affect a case of corruption in any significant way.
The real evidence we need are evidence of people who paid brides to the judge; the evidence of a go-between; Audio and video record of the process from negotiations to dropping of the cash to the judge. Fundamentally inciminating evidence from the judge call logs to go-betweens, and several other evidence. So far I am yet to see 5% of the evidence needed to establish corruption.
Let's stop talking about Rolls Royce or foreign currencies. That is not how to prove corruption. These are evidence that gives DSS a reasonable suspicion to effect arrest and carry out investigation; that is not the evidence to prove corruption.
I hope this will help our excitement. We always get too excited about weightless information like this. What has happened to Stella Odua, Fayose, Allynson Madueke and many others with all the figures that were put in the media. Gbenga Daniel nko? How about Dimeji Bankole? Assuming Jonathan spared them, why hasn't Buhari convicted any of them?
When the Federal Government sued Saraki and Ekweremadu for forgery, I remember stating it on this platform on my Wall that the evidence are not sufficient. Now the case has been withdrawn. A person can benefit from forgery without being guilty of it.
Guys we are too learned to allow security agencies to confuse us. Let DSS produce the real evidence.
NOW IS MY POSITION:
Let's ask DSS for the real evidence. Even if they are not producing it to the press, let them demonstrate that they have it.
- A judge travelled to Ghana or Niger to collect bribe!
-Who told them?
-Any video or audio to that effect?
-Whose bribe did the judge go there to collect?
-Any statement by the person who gave him the bribe?
-How must is the bribe collected?
-For what purpose was it collected?
-Is it about a case?
-Who are the parties to the case?
-Have you interviewed them?
By asking these questions instead of getting so excited about the foreign corrency especially and the Rolls Royce, we will help DSS a great deal.
2. Secondly let's advise DSS to go back to NJC. They should present their allegations to NJC. It is better if the affected judges are suspended or removed while they are facing prosecution. Otherwise a Supreme Court judge will leave the dock in the morning and sit to hear a case in the afternoon. That is not too good. That is why it is always better to have a judge face disciplinary action even if it is suspension before their prosecution.
I hope this changes our conversation a little