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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:03am On Dec 30, 2016
BascoVanVeli:
That is not my belief of Nigeria. Plus we don't have to be the ones to send them packing every year but this continent has gra gra that they don't witness until they maybe play Uruguay. Are u sure their players will make it through a full Afcon?
At least one of them must always make the final. The title would just be rotating between Brazil and Argentina.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:06am On Dec 30, 2016
BascoVanVeli:
I don't see it as that far, we are talking purely football and u are making it harder by bringing in logistics especially since my point is based on the fact that if Nigeria were a south American country like Peru we would also gain from being around the big dogs. Nigeria won't gain anything by deciding to play in south america so that seems more like the sun falling.
Well...

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:10am On Dec 30, 2016
Icon4s:
Asia has 4 automatic slots.

Going through a 5th placed S/American team is a more difficult and dicey route. Worse still that they'll have to play the likes of Tahiti, Solomon Island, Fiji, New Zealnd in the build-up to the difficult play-off. Its Just like practicing with common entrance past questions in preparation for the WAEC exams.

Australia needed more competitive matches and more assurance of qualifying.
By a mile and a half Asia is tougher. They have to play Japan, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Iraq and Thailand. So that is at least with Japan and Saudi, 4 big matches to make the world cup instead of 2 with Oceana.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:12am On Dec 30, 2016
BascoVanVeli:
By a mile and a half Asia is tougher. They have to play Japan, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Iraq and Thailand . So that is at least with Japan and Saudi, 4 big matches to make the world cup instead of 2 with Oceana.
Which of these is(are) tougher than Uruguay?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Petrobros: 11:17am On Dec 30, 2016
Icon4s:
Well...
Baba u be badt guy o. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:18am On Dec 30, 2016
Petrobros:
Baba u be badt guy o. grin
Wetin me do na?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:31am On Dec 30, 2016
Icon4s:
Which of these is(are) tougher than Uruguay?
Uruguay now or in 2006? Cuz Uruguay is at the top of their log and won't need playoffs to make the world cup. Argentina is currently 5th but we all know that's a fluke.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:35am On Dec 30, 2016
Icon4s:
Look at the list of countries you are rolling out: Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Uruguay, Colombia, Ecuador (6 already). Tell me why teams like Peru, Paraguay, Bolivia and Venezuela would not find it difficult qualifying when only 5 would qualify from that group.
if you can't qualify ahead of Ecuador then you are not good enough
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m):
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:05pm On Dec 30, 2016
BascoVanVeli:
Uruguay now or in 2006? Cuz Uruguay is at the top of their log and won't need playoffs to make the world cup. Argentina is currently 5th but we all know that's a fluke.
Your list of Japan, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Iraq and Thailand is it now or in 2006?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:07pm On Dec 30, 2016
Mickael2:
if you can't qualify ahead of Ecuador then you are not good enough
Do u think Nigeria would easily qualify ahead of Ecuador if we were in that group of qualifiers.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:38pm On Dec 30, 2016
Icon4s:
Your list of Japan, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Iraq and Thailand is it now or in 2006?
If u are talking now Uruguay is at the top of the log they won't need playoffs. Back then in 2006 South America was not as competitive. Unless u are trying to imply that the Australians could see the future and anticipated Uruguay, Chile and Colombia suddenly becoming world class. U can't say they ran away because of the qualifiers when they were qualifying to world cups, that fact alone defeats any arguement u are trying to make.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:49pm On Dec 30, 2016
Icon4s:
At least one of them must always make the final. The title would just be rotating between Brazil and Argentina.
I would think u would know by now that football is not played on paper.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by tglobal(m): 4:14pm On Dec 30, 2016
BascoVanVeli:
If Nigeria were a south American country we would have a world cup by now.
I have serious doubts about this. We have had at least 11 opportunities to beat teams from South America in the past two decades (including the golden age of our football) and our returns have been very poor (including against Peru).
The only time Nigeria has ever beaten a South American side was the victory over Argentina in 2011 at Abuja (and the result even get k-leg). Columbia, Paraguay and Peru have beaten us in the past.

The best of African teams have found the South Americans a tough nut to crack. Only Cameroon seems to have been able to hold their own against them
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 6:55pm On Dec 30, 2016
tglobal:
I have serious doubts about this. We have had at least 11 opportunities to beat teams from South America in the past two decades (including the golden age of our football) and our returns have been very poor (including against Peru).
The only time Nigeria has ever beaten a South American side was the victory over Argentina in 2011 at Abuja (and the result even get k-leg). Columbia, Paraguay and Peru have beaten us in the past.

The best of African teams have found the South Americans a tough nut to crack. Only Cameroon seems to have been able to hold their own against them
Forget that past talk if we play in CONMEBOL we would get much better and our level will increase. The Naija I know never carry last in football and that won't stop in South America. U can even imagine how many of our players would be plying their trade over there, it would be a takeover.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:17pm On Dec 30, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


The Nike Academy is due to his education and not criteria for picking him. He wants to join the team as a Hannover player and not a Nike player.
I agree with you about development and getting players into the framework work of our national sides well before England and the myriad of English club sides get them.

The problem you will have is selection criteria. I can assure you that nepotism, favoritism, racism, etc are rife in football.

A lot of talented footballers who are black will be overlooked for white boys who are not as good. So if the basis is current club and pedigree we will indirectly be perpetrating the discrimination that exists.

Compare the number of full black African boys in the French league comparative to the English leagues and academies gives you an insight into the problem.

I am not sure there are more Black people in France than the UK. But what I do know is there are far more black coaches and managers in France than England.

I say this because I know a lot of footballers who are not in the academy system and or have been dropped. Ademola Lookman is currently on a number of clubs radar transfer fee around £10 million, 2 years plus + ago he was playing Sunday football and now he's going to the premiership from league 1.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m):
komekn:
I agree with you about development and getting players into the framework work of our national sides well before England and the myriad of English club sides get them.

The problem you will have is selection criteria. I can assure you that nepotism, favoritism, racism, etc are rife in football.

A lot of talented footballers who are black will be overlooked for white boys who are not as good. So if the basis is current club and pedigree we will indirectly be perpetrating the discrimination that exists.

Compare the number of full black African boys in the French league comparative to the English leagues and academies gives you an insight into the problem.

I am not sure there are more Black people in France than the UK. But what I do know is there are far more black coaches and managers in France than England.

I say this because I know a lot of footballers who are not in the academy system and or have been dropped. Ademola Lookman is currently on a number of clubs radar transfer fee around £10 million, 2 years plus + ago he was playing Sunday football and now he's going to the premiership from league 1.


I always welcome and prefer a competitive atmosphere and a continuous search of top talents. Both, local and foreign. Just like Otigba, Fabian has the desire to play. We owe them a chance to prove themselves. Same goes with the local lads.

We monitor them, check if they are worth a chance and give them a call up. The coming friendly games is proper. If we have youngsters in France, they should speak up.

However, I disagree to turning a blind eye to a talent like Fabian if he took the trouble to come to Nigeria and make himself available. That extra effort shows a player who is ready to give his best for the team.

Salisu Yusuf has extensive knowledge of the local League and talents. It is up to him to help Identify the local prospects. Invite as many as possible, screen and pick the most promising.

We can not identify all but we can reach out to those who make themselves available.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:15pm On Dec 30, 2016
komekn:
I agree with you about development and getting players into the framework work of our national sides well before England and the myriad of English club sides get them.

The problem you will have is selection criteria. I can assure you that nepotism, favoritism, racism, etc are rife in football.

A lot of talented footballers who are black will be overlooked for white boys who are not as good. So if the basis is current club and pedigree we will indirectly be perpetrating the discrimination that exists.

Compare the number of full black African boys in the French league comparative to the English leagues and academies gives you an insight into the problem.

I am not sure there are more Black people in France than the UK. But what I do know is there are far more black coaches and managers in France than England.

I say this because I know a lot of footballers who are not in the academy system and or have been dropped. Ademola Lookman is currently on a number of clubs radar transfer fee around £10 million, 2 years plus + ago he was playing Sunday football and now he's going to the premiership from league 1.

We are not going to place a final judgment on the players until after camp with the Super Eagles team. It has always been like that.

Fabian Senninger has good education, promising talent. We invite him and judge. I doubt Leon Balogun will talk Fabian into playing for us if he did not see promise.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Obalolapius: 9:39pm On Dec 30, 2016
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Obalolapius: 9:47pm On Dec 30, 2016
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by terzurum5(op):
Nigeria Beach Soccer team ranked 20th in the world

Audu Adamu's men climbed up 10 places in the overall Fifa ranking released by the Beach Soccer World Cup for December.


Nigeria beach soccer national team have moved up 10 places to the 20th position in the overall world ranking released by the Beach Soccer World Wide for December 2016.


The Supersand Eagles who were previously ranked 30th in the world rose up thanks to their second place finish at the 2016 African Beach Soccer Cup of Nations in Lagos which qualified them for the 2017 Fifa Beach Soccer World Cup in the Bahamas.


Audu Adamu's men with 756 points are now third in Africa but behind Egypt in the 16th position with 908 points while Senegal are now Africa's best with 1028 points in 12th place in the world.


Morocco moved up five places to 21st place in the World as Madagascar rose up seven spots to 23rd position while Cote d'Ivoire climbed up a spot to 28th place occupying the fourth to sixth positions respectively on the continent.


In the world, Portugal ended up as 2016 world best team ahead of Russia, Brazil, Italy, Iran, Switzerland, Tahiti, Japan, Paraguay and Spain.


The next World ranking will be published in January 2017.

m.goal.com/x/en-ng/news/4093/nigerian-football/2016/12/29/30964262/nigeria-beach-soccer-team-ranked-20th-in-the-world
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:20pm On Dec 30, 2016
TheGoodJoe:

We are not going to place a final judgment on the players until after camp with the Super Eagles team. It has always been like that.

Fabian Senninger has good education, promising talent. We invite him and judge. I doubt Leon Balogun will talk Fabian into playing for us if he did not see promise.
A few years ago I knew a British born Nigerian midfielder playing for a premiership team. I asked him to come to Abuja and make himself available. The protocols for invitation to the English national team are very stringent and bureaucratic. He made the assumption he would not be welcomed inspite of all my advice. He was scared he would be embarrassed.

What I am saying not all players have that boldness. Without some official overtures they may stay away. You need to see things from thier perspective and Conservative cultural background .

For example nobody in England would dream about going to a wedding without an invitation. Nigeria a different scenario entirely.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:52am On Dec 31, 2016
komekn:
A few years ago I knew a British born Nigerian midfielder playing for a premiership team. I asked him to come to Abuja and make himself available. The protocols for invitation to the English national team are very stringent and bureaucratic. He made the assumption he would not be welcomed inspite of all my advice. He was scared he would be embarrassed.

What I am saying not all players have that boldness. Without some official overtures they may stay away. You need to see things from thier perspective and Conservative cultural background .

For example nobody in England would dream about going to a wedding without an invitation. Nigeria a different scenario entirely.

That is why players like Leon Balogun, Ikeme and Iwobi deserve commendation. They have shown others that if they want to play for Nigeria, we will welcome them.

At the end it is to increase our pool and select the best crop of talents to wear the green white green jerseys. Whether foreign or Nigerian born.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:43am On Dec 31, 2016
I was hearing this and that about Iheanacho's performance, how it wasn't up to par but having watched a replay of that match those claims were bogus. He had a strong performance, his goal was his reward for relentless pressing and fine movements. He didn't have a single issue with his touch, honestly i am wondering what game people watched to say he didn't do good.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by goldfish80(m):
Era of NFF depending on government for funds will be over soon, says Carena

A foreign investor based in the United Kingdom is set to inject a huge sum of $1.5 billion into Nigerian football. The plan, which is said to have the backing of the federal government, will take effect in the next 18 months. It is being packaged by Arabella 21st Century, in partnership with UK-based Aurora Sports and Entertainment.
Speaking with journalists in Lagos yesterday, Chief Executive Officer of Arabella 21st Century, Femi Carena said the move, if well managed by Nigerians, would not only put the nation’s football among the billion dollars investment group like others in the world, but also put an end to the era of sports administrators running cap in hand to the Presidency for funds to run the various national teams.
According to Carena, a one-time Special Adviser to former Secretary General of the NFF, Chief Taiwo Ogunjobi, an international conference to unveil the foreign investors will hold on March 8-9, 2017. “The conference will be addressed by the Nigerian Stock Exchange and top officials of the English Premier League. We also in talk with world football legend, Pele, and he has agreed to be part of the ceremony.”
Carena hinted that Sports Minister, Solomon Dalung has given the go-ahead for the investors to come into the nation’s football, adding that both the NFF and LMC have also been briefed.
“Both the NFF and LMC can’t guarantee the investors. The Sports Minister is the eye of the Federal Government, and he has done what is expected of him. We are bringing money for the NFF and LMC. The minister has already issued a release concerning this plan. We are also in torch with the league board, Shehu Dikko and Nduka Irabor. Understanding the politics of this country, I don’t need to see the NFF or the LMC because the project would die on arrival. It is purely the job of the sports minister and we are on the right track. We are not coming into Nigerian football to change the status of FIFA or CAF. If all Nigerians rally round this big project, our football will never remain the same. The international conference holding in March 2017 has officials of the NFF and LMC in its planning committee,” Carena stated.
Also speaking yesterday, a representative of the broadcast partner in the United Kingdom, Babatunde Ayinor and a directors in Arabella 21st Century, Dr. Rafiu Ladipo, urged Nigerians to embrace the plan for the good of the nation’s football.
http://m.guardian.ng/sport/uk-based-aurora-sports-to-inject-1-5b-in-nigerian-football/
Looks like we are in for exciting times. The stars are alligning for the actualization of my 2022 world prophecy. I can't wait
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by zicky(m): 8:53am On Dec 31, 2016
BascoVanVeli:
I was hearing this and that about Iheanacho's performance, how it wasn't up to par but having watched a replay of that match those claims were bogus. He had a strong performance, his goal was his reward for relentless pressing and fine movements. He didn't have a single issue with his touch, honestly i am wondering what game people watched to say he didn't do good.
. If Nacho was the one sub-off like Nolito in that match, you would have heard worst.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:27am On Dec 31, 2016
zicky:
. If Nacho was the one sub-off like Nolito in that match, you would have heard worst.
That's only natural we are not Spanish, we are invested in Nacho not Nolito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:36pm On Dec 31, 2016
TheGoodJoe:

That is why players like Leon Balogun, Ikeme and Iwobi deserve commendation. They have shown others that if they want to play for Nigeria, we will welcome them.

At the end it is to increase our pool and select the best crop of talents to wear the green white green jerseys. Whether foreign or Nigerian born.
Iwobi was born in Nigeria and has very strong Nigerian links and nothing about Nigeria should be strange to him.

Items and Balogun yes.

But it's not easy for a lot of these players who have no current link up and or association with Nigeria. We need to do more to engage with them.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:43pm On Dec 31, 2016
komekn:
Iwobi was born in Nigeria and has very strong Nigerian links and nothing about Nigeria should be strange to him.

Items and Balogun yes.

But it's not easy for a lot of these players who have no current link up and or association with Nigeria. We need to do more to engage with them.


Either they want to play for Nigeria or not. If they do not feel Nigerian and want to represent another country, Good luck to them.

Our interests and hearts lie with those who want to represent Nigeria.

Iwobi deserves praise because his decisions showed many foreign kids who have alliances with Nigeria that sometimes, it is not about playing for foreign teams with benefits. Sometimes, players need to sacrifice to build their home Country.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:44pm On Dec 31, 2016
Please can someone in the coaching crew call-up Otigba.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody:
komekn:
Iwobi was born in Nigeria and has very strong Nigerian links and nothing about Nigeria should be strange to him.

Items and Balogun yes.

But it's not easy for a lot of these players who have no current link up and or association with Nigeria. We need to do more to engage with them.
Plus, Iwobi's Uncle is Jay Jay.

You are very correct about the need to engage them. Not every player would go out on a limb to declare allegiance without some form of guarantee.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by terzurum5(op): 12:51pm On Dec 31, 2016
BascoVanVeli:
I was hearing this and that about Iheanacho's performance, how it wasn't up to par but having watched a replay of that match those claims were bogus. He had a strong performance, his goal was his reward for relentless pressing and fine movements. He didn't have a single issue with his touch, honestly i am wondering what game people watched to say he didn't do good.
The standard of play expected from Kelechi is from Mars.

Seriously, no one considers the age, game time and experience he needs to attain that height.

Any way, such high expectations are so common with players with rich potentials with some early hipe around them.
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