A40:

Jordan is overrated abeg. He owes his career to Chris Paul. Whiteside was very spot on with that all he does is catch lobs line. Ok he is a good rebounder but that's about it.

Take away Griffin ke? Did you see what he did two seasons ago vs the Spurs and Rockets?

Jordan na liability late in games and has refused to improve offensively. Either at FTs or acquiring some sort of post game. Clippers aren't doing shyte with him. Belee dat

Jordan value na for defense
why else your Mavs dey chase am up and down for free agency period that year ?

SIRcumalot:

Jordan value na for defense
why else your Mavs dey chase am up and down for free agency period that year ?

That value is immensely overrated. The Mavs are typically lazy at scouting mostly hitting and missing in FA. This is a franchise that has not developed an all-star since 2003

Giannis is the truth...

A40:

That value is immensely overrated. The Mavs are typically lazy at scouting mostly hitting and missing in FA. This is a franchise that has not developed an all-star since 2003

Jordan is basically the same type of player as Tyson Chandler,let him act as the defensive anchor and not worry about creating shots for him,he could gets his points from putbacks and offensive rebound.

SIRcumalot:

Jordan is basically the same type of player as Tyson Chandler,let him act as the defensive anchor and not worry about creating shots for him,he could gets his points from putbacks and offensive rebound.

Even this defensive anchor thing is overrated. This article breaks it down to the nitty gritty.

bballbreakdown.com/2015/04/17/why-deandre-jordan-doesnt-deserve-dpoy-consideration/

A40:

Even this defensive anchor thing is overrated. This article breaks it down to the nitty gritty.

bballbreakdown.com/2015/04/17/why-deandre-jordan-doesnt-deserve-dpoy-consideration/

too much analytics!!!
all I got from this is that defensive Center value is decreasing.
honestly,wont you rather have DeAndre in Bogut's place ?
bogut isn't working out for Dallas.

SIRcumalot:

too much analytics!!!
all I got from this is that defensive Center value is decreasing.
honestly,wont you rather have DeAndre in Bogut's place ?
bogut isn't working out for Dallas.

Chale. There are a lot of useful nuggets you can pick from these articles. What they also show is that defensive impact goes beyond highlight blocks e.t.c

When a so-called defensive anchor's team is bleeding fewer pts when he sits than when he is on the floor then water don pass garri. On the flipside when a guy like Draymond Green sits for the Warriors you know there is kasala. There is a reason the Clippers aren't an elite defensive team despite DeAndre's numbers. If Bogut got injured less often I would take him over DeAndre easily

SIRcumalot:

too much analytics!!!
all I got from this is that defensive Center value is decreasing.
honestly,wont you rather have DeAndre in Bogut's place ?
bogut isn't working out for Dallas.

A healthy Bogut over 2 DeAndre any day. Who was DeAndre before CP3 landed in LA? NOBODY....

My pillow has to pardon me for tonight, no way am I missing OkC Vs Houston. Two of my top 3 MVP picks are balling, and I somehow have to convince myself that Harden is the better of them two. Yes?

Decale:
Giannis is the truth...

He's Russell Westbrook in Kevin Durant's body.

All-Star Voting First Ballots:
EASTERN CONFERENCE:
Frontcourt

1. LeBron James (CLE) 595,288

2. Giannis Antetokounmpo (MIL) 500,663

3. Kevin Love (CLE) 250,347

4. Joel Embiid (PHI) 221,984

5. Carmelo Anthony (NY) 189,817

6. Jimmy Butler (CHI) 189,066

7. Kristaps Porzingis (NY) 184,166

8. Paul George (IND) 138,332

9. Hassan Whiteside (MIA) 72,628

10. Jabari Parker (MIL) 64,141

Guards

1. Kyrie Irving (CLE) 543,030

2. Dwyane Wade (CHI) 278,052

3. DeMar DeRozan (TOR) 253,340

4. Isaiah Thomas (BOS) 193,297

5. Derrick Rose (NY) 129,924

6. Kyle Lowry (TOR) 128,940

7. John Wall (WAS) 87,360

8. Jeremy Lin (BKN) 59,562

9. Kemba Walker (CHA) 52,122

10. Avery Bradley (BOS) 32,822

WESTERN CONFERENCE:
Frontcourt

1. Kevin Durant (GS) 541,209

2. Zaza Pachulia (GS) 439,675

3. Kawhi Leonard (SA) 341,240

4. Anthony Davis (NO) 318,144

5. Draymond Green (GS) 236,315

6. DeMarcus Cousins (SAC) 202,317

7. Karl-Anthony Towns (MIN) 125,278

8. LaMarcus Aldridge (SA) 101,724

9. Blake Griffin (LAC) 100,524

10. Marc Gasol (MEM) 97,370

Guards

1. Stephen Curry (GS) 523,597

2. James Harden (HOU) 519,446

3. Russell Westbrook (OKC) 501,652

4. Klay Thompson (GS) 293,054

5. Chris Paul (LAC) 173,830

6. Damian Lillard (POR) 117,857

7. Eric Gordon (HOU) 76,609

8. Manu Ginobili (SA) 65,832

9. Andre Iguodala (GS) 64,247

10. Zach LaVine (MIN) 53,642

lolawilliams:


He's Russell Westbrook in Kevin Durant's body.

He doesn't shoot bricks, more efficient, blocks a whole lot of shots and has way less TOs. So no...

He's Lebron in KD's body

Well, if there's one thing East does better than the West is that they actually vote all stars?

The West? Not so much

Decale:


He doesn't shoot bricks, more efficient, blocks a whole lot of shots and has way less TOs. So no...

He's Lebron in KD's body

Wow. these are true tho

kyle korver to the cavs

okc better come out strong in the 2nd half or this game is over.

A40:

Chale. There are a lot of useful nuggets you can pick from these articles. What they also show is that defensive impact goes beyond highlight blocks e.t.c

When a so-called defensive anchor's team is bleeding fewer pts when he sits than when he is on the floor then water don pass garri. On the flipside when a guy like Draymond Green sits for the Warriors you know there is kasala. There is a reason the Clippers aren't an elite defensive team despite DeAndre's numbers. If Bogut got injured less often I would take him over DeAndre easily

one or even two great defensive player(cp3) can't get you great defensive rating your team must have a great defensive scheme in place.
so far,jordan has made all nba first team defense twice now.
why the clippers defensive rating goes up without him is a mystery,maybe opposing team just make threes and drive less.

harden is still my guy. but I won't mind if Westbrook takes the MVP this season.

SIRcumalot:
harden is still my guy.
but I won't mind if Westbrook takes the MVP this season.

Chai, sleep no even let me finish 3rd quarter but one thing is evident nd we have echoed those sentiments here time and again : Westbrook is a one man army Harden is a team leader.
Yesterday, for all his exploits , his team mates let him down at crucial moments and that's cos he calls most of the play.
Harden is my man

Well the All Star voting, though largely based on court celebrity power (Ofcus I would vote for a player I fancy watching) also tells us alot. Most of the top picks share my sentiments, my only surprise is seeing my one and only Dwayne (d'flash) Wade ahead of Isaiah Thomas. . If a half broken Dwayne Wade can get ahead of Thomas, then It's obvious he wouldn't get a look-in for MVP as some campaigned on here.

Korver going to Cavs. Wow!!

SIRcumalot:

one or even two great defensive player(cp3) can't get you great defensive rating your team must have a great defensive scheme in place.
so far,jordan has made all nba first team defense twice now.
why the clippers defensive rating goes up without him is a mystery,maybe opposing team just make threes and drive less.

Guy are you his agent? I brought an article that broke down everything and you are still arguing.

DeAndre made all-NBA First team last season yet I can name 5 centers better than him easily. We have seen instances where the D.P.O.Y didn't even make all defense first team. These awards are not consistent and this is what I always tell you people

How can a so-called defensive anchor's team actually defend better in his absence

A40:

Guy are you his agent? I brought an article that broke down everything and you are still arguing.

DeAndre made all-NBA First team last season yet I can name 5 centers better than him easily. We have seen instances where the D.P.O.Y didn't even make all defense first team. These awards are not consistent and this is what I always tell you people

How can a so-called defensive anchor's team actually defend better in his absence

For all this talk I would like to be.
The article is just one guys opinion,after all this media type are the one that have voted him in twice now.





It will be really funny if Westbrook and KD start for the West all stars.

SIRcumalot:

It will be really funny if Westbrook and KD start for the West all stars.

It would be, really but not going to happen. Curry and Harden will get the most votes in the backcourt.

But never underestimate these weird NBA fanatics. Afterall, Zaza Pachulia is up there

lolawilliams:
All-Star Voting First Ballots:
EASTERN CONFERENCE:
Frontcourt

1. LeBron James (CLE) 595,288

2. Giannis Antetokounmpo (MIL) 500,663

3. Kevin Love (CLE) 250,347

4. Joel Embiid (PHI) 221,984

5. Carmelo Anthony (NY) 189,817

6. Jimmy Butler (CHI) 189,066

7. Kristaps Porzingis (NY) 184,166

8. Paul George (IND) 138,332

9. Hassan Whiteside (MIA) 72,628

10. Jabari Parker (MIL) 64,141

Guards

1. Kyrie Irving (CLE) 543,030

2. Dwyane Wade (CHI) 278,052

3. DeMar DeRozan (TOR) 253,340

4. Isaiah Thomas (BOS) 193,297

5. Derrick Rose (NY) 129,924

6. Kyle Lowry (TOR) 128,940

7. John Wall (WAS) 87,360

8. Jeremy Lin (BKN) 59,562

9. Kemba Walker (CHA) 52,122

10. Avery Bradley (BOS) 32,822

WESTERN CONFERENCE:
Frontcourt

1. Kevin Durant (GS) 541,209

2. Zaza Pachulia (GS) 439,675

3. Kawhi Leonard (SA) 341,240

4. Anthony Davis (NO) 318,144

5. Draymond Green (GS) 236,315

6. DeMarcus Cousins (SAC) 202,317

7. Karl-Anthony Towns (MIN) 125,278

8. LaMarcus Aldridge (SA) 101,724

9. Blake Griffin (LAC) 100,524

10. Marc Gasol (MEM) 97,370

Guards

1. Stephen Curry (GS) 523,597

2. James Harden (HOU) 519,446

3. Russell Westbrook (OKC) 501,652

4. Klay Thompson (GS) 293,054

5. Chris Paul (LAC) 173,830

6. Damian Lillard (POR) 117,857

7. Eric Gordon (HOU) 76,609

8. Manu Ginobili (SA) 65,832

9. Andre Iguodala (GS) 64,247

10. Zach LaVine (MIN) 53,642

I have been a follower of this thread for long but this time around, I was tempted to comment!



Is this list for real?
WTF!!!

Zaza Pachulia? How many pro games does Joel Embiid have? Are you kidding me!??!?!?!


those niggas have more votes than:
Kawhi Leonard
Anthony Davis
Draymond Green
DeMarcus Cousins
Karl-Anthony Towns
LaMarcus Aldridge
Blake Griffin
Marc Gasol

zopaks:



I have been a follower of this thread for long but this time around, I was tempted to comment!



Is this list for real?
WTF!!!

Zaza Pachulia? How many pro games does Joel Embiid have? Are you kidding me!??!?!?!


those niggas have more votes than:
Kawhi Leonard
Anthony Davis
Draymond Green
DeMarcus Cousins
Karl-Anthony Towns
LaMarcus Aldridge
Blake Griffin
Marc Gasol

As for ZaZa, it's so surprising. i must confess, but you should know that even 40,000 of it didnt come from his USA fans. I heard his country did it for him, majority of the Georgians voted him in, 400k+ votes were from the Georgians. He's like their messiah.

For Embiid, I think everyone loves the kid

NBA.com MVP Race:
1. James Harden
2. Russell Westbrook
3. Kevin Durant
4. LeBron James
5. Giannis Antetokounmpo
6. Jimmy Butler
7. Isaiah Thomas
8. Stephen Curry
9. Kawhi Leonard
10. DeMar DeRozan

lolawilliams:


As for ZaZa, it's so surprising. i must confess, but you should know that even 40,000 of it didnt come from his USA fans. I heard his country did it for him, majority of the Georgians voted him in, 400k+ votes were from the Georgians. He's like their messiah.

For Embiid, I think everyone loves the kid

The Russians may have a hand in these votes. Same way they hacked the last u.s elections.
Orubebe would not take it.

Meanwyl, best news of the year so far: we got kyle korver.

nairamaniac:


The Russians may have a hand in these votes. Same way they hacked the last u.s elections.

Orubebe would not take it.

Meanwyl, best news of the year so far: we got kyle korver.

Lool. I was so shocked when i first saw the list, i thought it was fake i search other site to check to confirm the authenticity and found out it was real... Zaza over Cousins and A.davis and karl looool.

Korver happy lowkey he wont get sweep by the Cavs in p/offs like it happened for the past 2seasons. lool

korver is a good pick, just think about when JR gets back HOLY HELL!! , the Cavs already knows who they will be meeting in finals and its obvious the team we got cant beat the Warriors in finals. Now that we copped us a 42.9% 3point shooter. I just hope we get one last thing which is a rim protector, then we're good to go.

lolawilliams:


Lool. I was so shocked when i first saw the list, i thought it was fake i search other site to check to confirm the authenticity and found out it was real... Zaza over Cousins and A.davis and karl looool.

Korver happy lowkey he wont get sweep by the Cavs in p/offs like it happened for the past 2seasons. lool

korver is a good pick, just think about when JR gets back HOLY HELL!! , the Cavs already knows who they will be meeting in finals and its obvious the team we got cant beat the Warriors in finals. Now that we copped us a 42.9% 3point shooter. I just hope we get one last thing which is a rim protector, then we're good to go.

its real o. In fact, they should restrict foreign countries from voting. It needs to be looked into. I don't think we need a rim protecting specialist. Cavs would always out-rebound warriors, especially on the offensive end. Tristan, love and Lebron can always take turns protecting the rim.

What is happening here?

Giannis screwed the bucks Tonite with that turnover
And hoford with those threes.