CatfishBilly:

I was just being figurative. It wasn't literal. I have a life also, why would I want to spend it running around chasing after postings on threads?

I should have just ignored her like I did on the first thread. Things wouldn't have degenerated to this level.
I'm tired of all the fights and everything.
Let it just stop.
Apologies to everyone I offended.

See why i said CatfishBilly is different? Bennyann? This is a mature, reasonable and intelligent man here.
You have earned my respect.

spacetacular:


Apologies to you as well. Actually ignoring anyone when holding a discussion knowledgeable to both is quite rude. It's better if you had said you did not wish to discuss it then I would have gone with your decision.

Once again my apologies as well

Where are the children in here? this is how adults handle matters.

Analice I now see is seeking attention....

spacetacular:


So you are an advocate to bullying and internet trolling. So you enjoy it when people like the man who began the online suicide game started manipulating people through suggestive words and they ended up with lots of suicide cases. Perhaps you are also an advocate for those bullies who dump defamatory language on anyone they wish simply because they are on the web and push those people to committing suicide even live streaming some on facebook.

Listen yeah, if you cannot behave responsibly over the internet then you definitely cannot be responsible in the real world. You can try and fake responsibility but not for long.

Keep on using the f words and other derogatory terms because you feel it's an expression so it should be a definite part of your life. Enjoy it. Hug it. In fact put it on like a second skin but always remember, there is always someone at the other end of your words.

He is a bully himself. watch out for him.

Droldnallufepoh:


you're always telling almost every atheist this, could it be that you're projecting just asking

Are you seriously saying you don't see the Patten in atheists here? The inner anger in you guys is intense.

Hopefullandlord, it's sad really. I wonder how you guys live with yourselves when alone.

Pls let it end here. The hatred against Christians is very uncalled for.
Allow me to believe what i want, everyone must not hate God.

analice107:

Are you seriously saying you don't see the Patten in atheists here? The inner anger in you guys is intense.

what pattern? that we are all at least above average intelligence? that we all give logical arguments that stand the test of time? the pattern that we all don't have imaginary friend, imaginary enemies and imaginary Paradise? that we all refused to buy into the thousands of god idea out there? that we refused to let you guy's illogicality run smock without being challenged?

Hopefullandlord, it's sad really. I wonder how you guys live with yourselves when alone.

we live just fine, whatever happens on Nairaland stays on Nairaland; atheists here are good at differentiating online and real world
we don't talk about our personal life cuz it makes NO sense to talk about it and to what end would that even be?

I've been in a very jovial mode today, damn I want some atheist/theist discussion

analice107:

He is a bully himself. watch out for him.

Bullying is the use of force, threat, or coercion to abuse , intimidate , or aggressively dominate others.

I honestly don't know how this in anyway describes me

Droldnallufepoh:

what pattern? that we are all at least above average intelligence? that we all give logical arguments that stand the test of time? the pattern that we all don't have imaginary friend, imaginary enemies and imaginary Paradise? that we all refused to buy into the thousands of god idea out there? that we refused to let you guy's illogicality run smock without being challenged?

we live just fine, whatever happens on Nairaland stays on Nairaland; atheists here are good at differentiating online and real world
we don't talk about our personal life cuz it makes NO sense to talk about it and to what end would that even be?

I've been in a very jovial mode today, damn I want some atheist/theist discussion

Hahahahahahaha, So you seriously believe that you are above average intelligent to someone in your field of study and who is a Christian or you are referring to me in a totally different register?

See how intelligent you are?

You say God doesn't exist, but you attribute all natural disasters to him. You call him wicked and uncaring, yet He doesn't exits. You hate Him intensely, yet He doesn't exist.

Hopefullanlord, it's obvious, you don't realize how illogical you sound right now.

If God is imaginary, why don't you just live me to Him? Why do you find it important for me to disbelieve Him like you?

analice107:

Hahahahahahaha, So you seriously believe that you are above average intelligent to someone in your field of study and who is a Christian or you are referring to me in a totally different register?

See how intelligent you are?

I've never met a dumb atheist
I've met many dumb theists though
I'll also be fair by saying the two most intelligent persons I know are theist and deist

that's where I made my conclusions from, I'm not saying you should take my word for it but I've observed it takes a certain level of intellect to question what one was brought up with

You say God doesn't exist, but you attribute all natural disasters to him. You call him wicked and uncaring, yet He doesn't exits. You hate Him intensely, yet He doesn't exist.

Hopefullanlord, it's obvious, you don't realize how illogical you sound right now.

I'm not one of those that do that, but for those that do it does make sense! if theists especially Christians keep calling their god the four omnis (scient, present, potent, benevolent) they should be able to get such "natural disaster" claim, what's "benevolent" about the Haiti earthquake?

I have asked Christians the question, "If an all-powerful, loving God exists why does he allow children to starve?" I usually get one of two responses. Either they tell me that God's ways are "mysterious" and that children starving are all a part of his greater plan that we won't know about until after we die. Or they smugly turn it around to say, "Why are YOU letting kids starve to death? God works through human hands."
The first answer is a total cop-out and basically says they have no friggin' clue as to why he does things but he MUST have some good reason for it. It's just that we are not privy to that reason.
When they say the second answer I respond by giving the following example. Say I am a father and have a 10 yr old son. The son wants a dog for his birthday. So I buy him a puppy and say that it is his responsibility to feed it. He agrees. After awhile the son ignores the puppy and isn't feeding it. The puppy is starving. I have the power to feed the puppy. All I have to do it put food in its bowl. But I don't because feeding the puppy is my son's responsibility. So I watch the puppy starve to death. Now what do you think of me? Would you think I was a heartless monster? Or would you say it was not my fault the puppy starved since it was my son's duty to feed it?
They usually don't have an answer for that one.

If God is imaginary, why don't you just live me to Him? Why do you find it important for me to disbelieve Him like you?

On the whole, proselytizing is a one-way procedure. Atheists don't generally try to "convert" the religious, and are not to be found ringing doorbells and distributing little tracts. Atheists with a scientific bent, however, do not let some of the sillier claims of the theists go unchallenged, nor do we take kindly to the incursions when theists try to bring their religion-of-choice into the public sphere to be imposed upon others. In other words, we tend to play defense, not offense, but you'd never think it from the outraged cries of those who think they're losing a Christian privilege that they should never have claimed in the first place.

you want to be able to tell us to accept Jesus, YOU don't let Muslims worship their Allah, you don't let Catholics worship Jesus the way they deem fit, you criticise those groups a lot and more but somehow you want the privilege of yours not facing the same criticism

okay

analice107:

@CatfishBilly, pls take what Bennyann has said here very seriously. Nothing should make you reveal anything personal here. This place may seem like a place where we meet to just chat, but believe it or not, there are very criminally insane individuals in here and they can go to any length to tarnish your image.

I am a victim to what she said. I posted some of my details here, Otem and some of your atheists friends pick them up and crafted a story about me being a friend to him and stealing money from them. My Facebook page was hacked and my pictures posted here.

But their stupidity ended where the details stopped. When i asked about other details which only my close friend (as the person claim she was) would know, she ran off.

Satan's worshippers are hiding under atheism here. You don't know who will turn against you tomorrow. these days with photoshopping, be careful.

Hello again... Happy weekend.


I once told u to keep your profile low, because of this frustrated urchins who will do anything to tarnish good reputation.

Personally me I have nothing to loose, I give u my location, u are bad enough.. Let's dance, or u give me your location I come with my nemesis, but I will ask u again Anna please please keep a low profile..alot of demonically possessed zombies are trailling u, I told u this last year.

I stay behind the curtain watching... If anyone goes personal with me... I won't mind reverting to my old ways to deal mercilessly with whoever..


Just be safe.. Just be safe... That is important to me.

Is blackfire.

Droldnallufepoh:
I've never met a dumb atheist
I've met many dumb theists though
I'll also be fair by saying the two most intelligent persons I know are theist and deist

that's where I made my conclusions from, I'm not saying you should take my word for it but I've observed it takes a certain level of intellect to question what one was brought up with

I'm not one of those that do that, but for those that do it does make sense! if theists especially Christians keep calling their god the four omnis (scient, present, potent, benevolent) they should be able to get such "natural disaster" claim, what's "benevolent" about the Haiti earthquake?

I have asked Christians the question, "If an all-powerful, loving God exists why does he allow children to starve?" I usually get one of two responses. Either they tell me that God's ways are "mysterious" and that children starving are all a part of his greater plan that we won't know about until after we die. Or they smugly turn it around to say, "Why are YOU letting kids starve to death? God works through human hands."
The first answer is a total cop-out and basically says they have no friggin' clue as to why he does things but he MUST have some good reason for it. It's just that we are not privy to that reason.
When they say the second answer I respond by giving the following example. Say I am a father and have a 10 yr old son. The son wants a dog for his birthday. So I buy him a puppy and say that it is his responsibility to feed it. He agrees. After awhile the son ignores the puppy and isn't feeding it. The puppy is starving. I have the power to feed the puppy. All I have to do it put food in its bowl. But I don't because feeding the puppy is my son's responsibility. So I watch the puppy starve to death. Now what do you think of me? Would you think I was a heartless monster? Or would you say it was not my fault the puppy starved since it was my son's duty to feed it?
They usually don't have an answer for that one.


On the whole, proselytizing is a one-way procedure. Atheists don't generally try to "convert" the religious, and are not to be found ringing doorbells and distributing little tracts. Atheists with a scientific bent, however, do not let some of the sillier claims of the theists go unchallenged, nor do we take kindly to the incursions when theists try to bring their religion-of-choice into the public sphere to be imposed upon others. In other words, we tend to play defense, not offense, but you'd never think it from the outraged cries of those who think they're losing a Christian privilege that they should never have claimed in the first place.

you want to be able to tell us to accept Jesus, YOU don't let Muslims worship their Allah, you don't let Catholics worship Jesus the way they deem fit, you criticise those groups a lot and more but somehow you want the privilege of yours not facing the same criticism

okay

Are you saying brother Thomas is not dumb? Really?
Modify. Sir, do you see starving Children as some sought of evil in the world?

Blackfire:






Hello again... Happy weekend.


I once told u to keep your profile low, because of this frustrated urchins who will do anything to tarnish good reputation.

Personally me I have nothing to loose, I give u my location, u are bad enough.. Let's dance, or u give me your location I come with my nemesis, but I will ask u again Anna please please keep a low profile..alot of demonically possessed zombies are trailling u, I told u this last year.

I stay behind the curtain watching... If anyone goes personal with me... I won't mind reverting to my old ways to deal mercilessly with whoever..


Just be safe.. Just be safe... That is important to me.

Is blackfire.

My dearest dear, light doesn't run or hide from darkness, the reverse is always the case. Satan and his agents use fear and intimidation as a weapon, but am not afraid of either satan or his agents let them come.

I got so uninterested with this platform and wanted to deactivate, one of the persons who kept me here is you. Satanic agents wants the Christians to leave everything to them, but, i don't run. Am a soldier, and soldiers don't run from battle.
All i have ever said here remains here, i have never cried out or summoned anyone before the indeterminate council of the most high God, if i do, they will feel it.

But, they are dead already, so why flog a dead horse?

Droldnallufepoh:
I've never met a dumb atheist
I've met many dumb theists though
I'll also be fair by saying the two most intelligent persons I know are theist and deist

that's where I made my conclusions from, I'm not saying you should take my word for it but I've observed it takes a certain level of intellect to question what one was brought up with

I'm not one of those that do that, but for those that do it does make sense! if theists especially Christians keep calling their god the four omnis (scient, present, potent, benevolent) they should be able to get such "natural disaster" claim, what's "benevolent" about the Haiti earthquake?

I have asked Christians the question, "If an all-powerful, loving God exists why does he allow children to starve?" I usually get one of two responses. Either they tell me that God's ways are "mysterious" and that children starving are all a part of his greater plan that we won't know about until after we die. Or they smugly turn it around to say, "Why are YOU letting kids starve to death? God works through human hands."
The first answer is a total cop-out and basically says they have no friggin' clue as to why he does things but he MUST have some good reason for it. It's just that we are not privy to that reason.
When they say the second answer I respond by giving the following example. Say I am a father and have a 10 yr old son. The son wants a dog for his birthday. So I buy him a puppy and say that it is his responsibility to feed it. He agrees. After awhile the son ignores the puppy and isn't feeding it. The puppy is starving. I have the power to feed the puppy. All I have to do it put food in its bowl. But I don't because feeding the puppy is my son's responsibility. So I watch the puppy starve to death. Now what do you think of me? Would you think I was a heartless monster? Or would you say it was not my fault the puppy starved since it was my son's duty to feed it?
They usually don't have an answer for that one.


On the whole, proselytizing is a one-way procedure. Atheists don't generally try to "convert" the religious, and are not to be found ringing doorbells and distributing little tracts. Atheists with a scientific bent, however, do not let some of the sillier claims of the theists go unchallenged, nor do we take kindly to the incursions when theists try to bring their religion-of-choice into the public sphere to be imposed upon others. In other words, we tend to play defense, not offense, but you'd never think it from the outraged cries of those who think they're losing a Christian privilege that they should never have claimed in the first place.

you want to be able to tell us to accept Jesus, YOU don't let Muslims worship their Allah, you don't let Catholics worship Jesus the way they deem fit, you criticise those groups a lot and more but somehow you want the privilege of yours not facing the same criticism

okay

i didn't read. You are so illogical.

ilynem:

Are you saying brother Thomas is not dumb? Really?

nope, he's not

Modify. Sir, do you see starving Children as some sought of evil in the world?

its incompatible with the four omnis

Droldnallufepoh:

nope, he's not

its incompatible with the four omnis

Are you one of those that think because there is God, there shouldn't be evil in the world?

ilynem:

Are you one of those that think because there is God, there shouldn't be evil in the world?

Is that a faulty point of view?

CatfishBilly:

Is that a faulty point of view?

It is very faulty sir. And it is devoid of understanding of who God really is.

ilynem:

It is very faulty sir. And it is devoid of understanding of who God really is.

What's the correct point of view?
That God didn't create evil?
That God didn't allow evil?
Cut out the Sir, please. It creeps me out. Makes me feel very old

analice107:

My dearest dear, light doesn't run or hide from darkness, the reverse is always the case. Satan and his agents use fear and intimidation as a weapon, but am not afraid of either satan or his agents let them come.

I got so uninterested with this platform and wanted to deactivate, one of the persons who kept me here is you. Satanic agents wants the Christians to leave everything to them, but, i don't run. Am a soldier, and soldiers don't run from battle.
All i have ever said here remains here, i have never cried out or summoned anyone before the indeterminate council of the most high God, if i do, they will feel it.

But, they are dead already, so why flog a dead horse?

I never expect anything less in your comments...

U are one of the reasons I reverted from delusional grandeur to the loving arms of my Savior.

Stay strong... Many a times I read your comments from the background...

U are one of the reasons I still enjoy NL.

Let them build there army of confusion... They will scatter in 7 ways.


Happy Sunday love.

Blackfire:




I never expect anything less in your comments...

U are one of the reasons I reverted from delusional grandeur to the loving arms of my Savior.

Stay strong... Many a times I read your comments from the background...

U are one of the reasons I still enjoy NL.

Let them build there army of confusion... They will scatter in 7 ways.


Happy Sunday love.

I love you Child of God.

CatfishBilly:

What's the correct point of view?
That God didn't create evil?
That God didn't allow evil?
Cut out the Sir, please. It creeps me out. Makes me feel very old

I will not call you "sir" again, sir .
Seriously now. Evil isn't a "thing". What do I mean? Evil is simply the absence of Good. Evil can be Moral or Natural. Moral in the sense that people do evil and then we have natural evil like natural disasters, sicknesses, blah blah blah.
Now One of the greatest ethic God has given us is love. Love isn't learnt. It is in built. If it is possible for a baby to grow in isolation, will that baby know how to Love? Yes.
Now we have to ask, how did we get this ability love? Who placed it in us?
I believe God did. And its an ethic implanted in us from birth. But if we have the freewill to love, then we should have the freewill not to love. Moral evil is caused from that decision not to love. If we are all compelled to love, then we are simply robots. God is all powerful, but he has given us that will not to love.
As for natural evil. God made a perfect world in Eden, sin came in and spoilt that world. Now you will ask, why can't an all powerful God stop evil? Humans grade evil, God does not. Its either black or white. Evil or good. Take evil away from the world and we all die. You know why? Cuz we commit evil every single day. Even as small (not small to God cuz he doesn't grade it) as lying.

ilynem:

Are you one of those that think because there is God, there shouldn't be evil in the world?

nope but I'm one of those that think if the four omnis is true there shouldn't be evil

Droldnallufepoh:


nope but I'm one of those that think if the four omnis is true there shouldn't be evil

Can you kindly elaborate?

ilynem:

Can you kindly elaborate?

are you one of the Christians that think Yahweh has the four omnis? (potent, scient, present, benevolent)

analice107:

My dearest dear, light doesn't run or hide from darkness, the reverse is always the case. Satan and his agents use fear and intimidation as a weapon, but am not afraid of either satan or his agents let them come.

I got so uninterested with this platform and wanted to deactivate, one of the persons who kept me here is you. Satanic agents wants the Christians to leave everything to them, but, i don't run. Am a soldier, and soldiers don't run from battle.
All i have ever said here remains here, i have never cried out or summoned anyone before the indeterminate council of the most high God, if i do, they will feel it.

But, they are dead already, so why flog a dead horse?

Seriously u think if heaven exist u will go there? Lol... Heaven must be a joke of a place

frank317:


Seriously u think if heaven exist u will go there? Lol... Heaven must be a joke of a place

So says the sad one. Seriously, treat this depression before it gets out of hand.

CatfishBilly this is not a prank, pls prescribe anti depressants for this person. The kind of heaviness he carries around could break his spinal cord.

Since no one in his family cares enough to intervene, lets do something before it goes beyond this.

Dr Joshthefirst. You are needed here.

analice107:

So says the sad one. Seriously, treat this depression before it gets out of hand.

CatfishBilly this is not a prank, pls prescribe anti depressants for this person. The kind of heaviness he carries around could break his spinal cord.

Since no one in his family cares enough to intervene, lets do something before it goes beyond this.

Dr Joshthefirst. You are needed here.

And she thinks she is making sense.

Does thinking I am depressed make u wet between ur legs? If so u are free to call me depressed all day, just as long as fluid keeps flowing babe.

frank317:


And she thinks she is making sense.

Does thinking I am depressed make u wet between ur legs? If so u are free to call me depressed all day, just as long as fluid keeps flowing babe.

I can't tell when she is joking or being serious. that one, she makes me laugh.

Pastafarian:


are you one of the Christians that think Yahweh has the four omnis? (potent, scient, present, benevolent)

Yup

ilynem:

Yup

If god is so powerful, can he make another god more powerful than himself?

ilynem:

I will not call you "sir" again, sir .
Seriously now. Evil isn't a "thing". What do I mean? Evil is simply the absence of Good. Evil can be Moral or Natural. Moral in the sense that people do evil and then we have natural evil like natural disasters, sicknesses, blah blah blah.
Now One of the greatest ethic God has given us is love. Love isn't learnt. It is in built. If it is possible for a baby to grow in isolation, will that baby know how to Love? Yes.
Now we have to ask, how did we get this ability love? Who placed it in us?
I believe God did. And its an ethic implanted in us from birth. But if we have the freewill to love, then we should have the freewill not to love. Moral evil is caused from that decision not to love. If we are all compelled to love, then we are simply robots. God is all powerful, but he has given us that will not to love.
As for natural evil. God made a perfect world in Eden, sin came in and spoilt that world. Now you will ask, why can't an all powerful God stop evil? Humans grade evil, God does not. Its either black or white. Evil or good. Take evil away from the world and we all die. You know why? Cuz we commit evil every single day. Even as small (not small to God cuz he doesn't grade it) as lying.

Evil is a thing. Example, killing someone is a thing, not absence of not killing someone, Slavery is a thing, it's not absence of freedom.

Evil can't be moral cos the backbone of morality is empathy, and any human that lacks empathy can commit all sorts of atrocities. Evil and empathy can't mix, they are like oil and water.

People who have the inability to love that is lack empathy are called psychopaths and for whatever reason, they were born like that. If god created humans, he also created the psychopaths, so, god created evil.

So, if god is omni everything and still went ahead to create the psychopaths, that means he knowingly brought evil into the world, so, if he can bring psychopaths into the world, then he can also take them out/remove evil. Unless he can't do that then he isn't omni everything as he is purpoted to be.