Hozier:
Obviously you know nothing about art or literature, Lol. The most foolish way to measure artistic success is by sales. Anything can drive sales, any m0ron in the right genre, with the right target market and a good publishing company can rack up some good sales numbers. Novels sell more than poems or plays so it is expected for Achebe to have sales numbers on his side. When both artists were judged by the quality of their works, who came up top? Who won the biggest literature award ever?
So because Manchester United recorded more sales than Real Madrid, they are a more successful club?

Threebear:


This one is a real Afonja, I'm done arguing this trash.
You don't measure artistic success by sales, you measure it by YouTube videos
Werey
Novels don't sell more than plays my friend stop making complete utter fool of yourself. Shakespeare has the most successful books second only to the Bible, guess what?
All his books are plays.
Please go get some education, you sound like you need it.

Hozier:


Lol, if we are to go by this logic, Taylor Swift with the highest number of YouTube views is the most successful artiste in the world, and we can as well say Manchester united were the most successful team in 2017 since they recorded the highest revenue of all football clubs in the world, even more than Real Madrid. Can you see how flawed your analogy is?

Achebe is a novelist, Soyinka is more of a poet and a playwright.
Between a novelist and a playwright, who would you expect to have more sales record? Who won the most prestigious literature award between the two? Yeah right, Soyinka.

By now, you should have known the Threebear guy is an Igbo cretin riddled with characteristic low self esteem and a single digit IQ.

He knows deep down his argument is foolish but he's just baiting you.

I would have thought it was the height of stupidity to come to a Yoruba owned website to rant and abuse Yorubas while enriching the Yoruba owner.

The panacea for such folks? Haven't you ever heard silence is the best response for a fool?

I am sure with his rants and whining, the Nobel committee would withdraw Wole's prize

Hozier:


Lol, Olodo Mr education, . J. K Rowling's Harry Potter series has more sales than Shakespeare. Novels sell more than plays, if you know anything about literature you won't even be arguing this. And point to where I said you can judge an artist success by either YouTube videos or sales. Do you even know the greatest music composer of all time Mozart died in penury?

I'm sure you will claim Ice Prince is a more successful artist than Asa because he attends more shows.

Threebear:
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Harry Potter sold more than Shakespeare
I'm officially dead, this one is a complete olodo. Chai, who did this to these Afonjas?
Oga please a little research can clear your head.
Who cares if the greatest music composer died in penury?
The fact that he is the greatest music composer does it make him successful?
Why are you talking like someone without a brain.
We are talking about success here not talent, can't you tell the difference, wizkid and davido are the most successful artist today, are they more talented than Timi dakola? Do they have vocals as strong as Darey? Can they dance or sing properly?
Since when is talent a measure of success?
Stop sounding daft and talking out of point.
Micheal Jackson is the most successful artist ever because his credentials match his hype ,he sold more albums than any individual, had tours that grossed billions ,had one of the strongest singles of all time called thriller. What you don't know about YouTube and steaming is that they started getting counts in recent time, bringing up One's YouTube stats and saying that person should be called a the most successful is very stupid!!
It is an unfair comparison to those who weren't judged with YouTube, sheesh ,how can someone be so dumb?
Even in this modern times Adele has Taylor beat in sales and accolades.
Please update yourself, you're embarrassing yourself.[/s]

Threebear:

Chinuea Achebe is the most successful African writer,a close second chimamanda adichie, a simple google check will clear your ignorance.
Things fall apart is one of the highest selling books in the world with 25 million naira copies sold, every thing that wole sold put together has not sold a quarter of that.

AdolfHitlerxXx:


By now, you should have known the Threebear guy is an Igbo cretin riddled with characteristic low self esteem and a single digit IQ.

He knows deep down his argument is foolish but he's just baiting you.

I would have thought it was the height of stupidity to come to a Yoruba owned website to rant and abuse Yorubas while enriching the Yoruba owner.

The panacea for such folks? Haven't you ever heard silence is the best response for a fool?

I am sure with his rants and whining, the Nobel committee would withdraw Wole's prize

Threebear:

Winning a noble prize does not make him more successful stop making a fool of yourself!
Chinuea Achebe won awards too,
Things fall apart has been translated to more than 21 languages, none of wole's book has found an inch of that success.
He is a, playwright, a novelist a poet but none of his works are recognized internationally.
He is a Jack of all trade and master of none!
Achebe buried his whole career with just one classic novel, that is still being discussed fifty years later.
Seun owns nairaland, that is true, but if you know anything about running a website, you'd know there are igbos on his pay roll too.
The topics you see getting pushed to front pages, the 24 hours working of the website, the day to day update, these are people doing that Job .Let's not talk of the investors and share holders, so I'm not only making seun rich, I'm making all the igbos ,that work under him and with him rich.
I told you afonjas you knew nothing

BluntBoy:



Using your criterion, it means Stephen King is greater than T.S Elliot since Stephen has a high sales rate.

It means Harry Potter is greater than The Bluest Eye.

It means the poorly written Forty Shades of Grey is greater than Toni Morrison's Song of Solomon.

My friend, literary worth is not judged by sales. There are many erotic novels like Forty Shades of Grey that sell better than books by Nobel Laureates. Does that make them better?

Still going by your criterion, it means Forty Shades of Grey is greater than Things Fall Apart since it has recorded higher sales. It also means that E.L. James is greater than Achebe simply because he has sold more copies of his book.

Threebear:

Oga go back to where the argument started, don't jump in and start blabbering nonsense.
We are not talking of who is greater here, we are talking of who is more successful.
Greatness is subjective!
I can come out today and say Elechi Amadi is the greatest Nigerian writer, that's my opinion and whether you agree or not it won't change it.
But success is not measured by opinions, success is measured with facts and figures, stats and certifications .whatever are your opinions about the quality of those Afro mentioned writers works, it doesn't change the facts that their works are more successful than those writers you claim are better.
A wise man verifies a topic before jumping in, we are arguing success here not greatness
Get your facts right!

Threebear:

Oga go back to where the argument started, don't jump in and start blabbering nonsense.
We are not talking of who is greater here, we are talking of who is more successful.
Greatness is subjective!
I can come out today and say Elechi Amadi is the greatest Nigerian writer, that's my opinion and whether you agree or not it won't change it.
But success is not measured by opinions, success is measured with facts and figures, stats and certifications .whatever are your opinions about the quality of those Afro mentioned writers works, it doesn't change the facts that their works are more successful than those writers you claim are better.
A wise man verifies a topic before jumping in, we are arguing success here not greatness
Get your facts right!

cstr1000:
But wait o, she no get family?
Why is everything there yorubacentric?

Hozier:
Obviously you know nothing about art or literature, Lol. The most foolish way to measure artistic success is by sales. Anything can drive sales, any m0ron in the right genre, with the right target market and a good publishing company can rack up some good sales numbers. Novels sell more than poems or plays so it is expected for Achebe to have sales numbers on his side. When both artists were judged by the quality of their works, who came up top? Who won the biggest literature award ever?
So because Manchester United recorded more sales than Real Madrid, they are a more successful club?

ogbeniolola:
I think Afenifere should investigate the way and manner igbo girls are fast pitching their tents with good yoruba sons lately....well this trend is a serious indictment on igbo men many of whom are too engrossed in Alaba, Ladipo and IPOB struggles to know how to take of family and women.

Hozier:


Lol, Olodo Mr education, . J. K Rowling's Harry Potter series has more sales than Shakespeare. Novels sell more than plays, if you know anything about literature you won't even be arguing this. And point to where I said you can judge an artist success by either YouTube videos or sales. Do you even know the greatest music composer of all time Mozart died in penury?

I'm sure you will claim Ice Prince is a more successful artist than Asa because he attends more shows.

cstr1000:

lol.

Achebe's book sold because it was original. It showed primitive Africa in a non-primitive way for the very first time.

It had nothing to do with play or no play.

There are plays that are world best sellers.

Threebear:

Winning a noble prize does not make him more successful stop making a fool of yourself!
Chinuea Achebe won awards too,
Things fall apart has been translated to more than 21 languages, none of wole's book has found an inch of that success.
He is a, playwright, a novelist a poet but none of his works are recognized internationally.
He is a Jack of all trade and master of none!
Achebe buried his whole career with just one classic novel, that is still being discussed fifty years later.
Seun owns nairaland, that is true, but if you know anything about running a website, you'd know there are igbos on his pay roll too.
The topics you see getting pushed to front pages, the 24 hours working of the website, the day to day update, these are people doing that Job .Let's not talk of the investors and share holders, so I'm not only making seun rich, I'm making all the igbos ,that work under him and with him rich.
I told you afonjas you knew nothing

Hozier:
Wole Soyinka under Chinua Achebe's shadow? What brand of weed have you been smoking bro?

HelenBee:
Love is blind, but I can't Sha.

fuckpro:
...Akoko kité,you fine sha

HelenBee:
Fuckpro, what a moniker.

fuckpro:
...i humbly submit that judge not a book by its cover

HelenBee:
So you're a fuckAmateur??