rosita33:
this what a person like freeze trying to tell the gullibles but they have been brainwashed, charmed by the pastors. intact 99.9% of days pastors. I was almost a victim and I have seen many people close to me in the same mess.

I have never countered the existence of fake pastors. The bible says they will exist clearly. Freeze is against rccg.a church in 190 nations. There will always be bad and good people. Coming to say pastors are the main problem does not make sense to me.

this bororo is SICK.....another SAUL that will soon be PAUL.....

Penalty82:


Those countries you mentioned that are well developed, is it their religious leaders or politicians that developed them? I am asking this question because Muslims has ruled Nigeria more than any religion, going by your submission we can say that Nigeria is backward because of Mulims.

your problem is simple English

Express1086:

your problem is simple English

Your problem is over sabi.

desreek9:
I was expecting this "fridge" to quote a bible verse saying we shudnt fast for 50 days, so because Jesus fasted for 40 days we all must fast 40 days, so we cant choose to fast for more or less than 40days smh

It's obvious he's against pentecostals from this write up, if not why is he bringing up catholic and muslim countries with wealth, don't they have thousands of churches and mosques there, dont they have politicians who rule and maintain their collective wealth, do they blame their priests and imams for infrastructure and whatnot?

He should direct his rants to our politicians, pastors and churches can only assist however they can which they've been doing from time immemorial.

he dear not talk about Muslims. those guys don't fight online.

A true anti-christ.
How do i know that?
From tithe talk to "you must not be born again before you make heaven" to bla bla bla, and now prayer & fasting.

He's now on social media saying RCCG should remove him from their mailing list - stupidity of the highest order cos i know one has to subscribe for a newsletter himself before joining the mail list. Why not just unsubscribe from something he subscribed to himself?

Now i see clearly why he is against RCCG. He's too poor to pay N500k for his kids fees, and thus the envious and vile propaganda. Get a job man!!! Or better still, BEG.

"Be not ignorant of the devil's devices."

Ekealterego:
Sadly true.
People should be told the truth!
The time we spend hunting for miracles, we should rather use that time to make our country a better place. People need tinknow that things don't happen magically. Even the bible noted that faith without works is dead, its a combination of a faith as small as a mustard seed and a whole lot of work. While you are busy praying to get a car magically, do you know the average citizen in the west and far east are sweating it out in a factory somewhere? People are in labs doing active research on how to improve, guys are working in the harsh winter weather developing apps, the IT personnel are busy developing intelligent computers, while you have already spend 50 days out of the lil time you have hunting for miracles. Prayer is powerful but more work is better!

so pathetic. you think all you need to succeed is hard work alone?. if it were so bricklayers will be the richest. There is always the God factor in everything.
let me ask you, why are people richer,healthier,living in a better environment than you are dead but you are alive. when you find answer to this we will talk more.

jos4kay:
This Freeze is gradually showing his true color. Fasting and Prayer is a spiritual exercise.

A canal mind can't understand the things of the spirit.

Pavore9:
It is work and pray, not pray and pray!

...and you told you its only prayers prayers.

when you get high enough in life, u will realise that work alone can't get you all u want. You need the God factor.

be wise bro. Trust in Him and don't lean on your own understanding.

Milonis:
This guy is becoming a stupid nuisance. Did anybody told him that the fasting substitute work and innovation?

This guy is just something else. Slamming everything about Christianity. Waiting for the day he would slam Ramadan Fast...

That's the beauty of Christianity, do all the slamming, the church marches on

He has made up his mind to display his stupidly in public.

tippyboy:
blaming the failure of this country on pastors is not cool.

Freeze is not in position to give this advice,
Matthew 7:5
You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

Freeze with your creativities and innovations how many mansions you don own.

You should focus more on your life cos I'm pretty sure most of the people doing the fasting and prayers are richer you.

Absolute truth.

Bro, flesh and blood have not revealed this to you. you are in the spirit.

1freshdude:
Even if RCCG members like let them starve to death, it won't change shit. Okay, they will only lose weight and give their digestive tract a break, but the socioeconomic challenges will remain. Nepa will still not give light, Buhari will remain deaf and the budget funded by loans from countries that don't care about religion.
The churches are huge distraction in Nigeria, Daddy and mummy GO's should manage the billions they have already fleeced people of, let people face the problem of the country squarely. Nobody is coming from heaven or anywhere to save anybody...ask yourself since when have you been praying and starving, why are things getting worse?

with all due respect, your view on this topic is so myopic and a demonstration of someone that doesn't understand how things work. Things may not be getting well for you but I know many out there who have seen the hand of God in what their doing.

keep on displaying your stupidity. you will eat your words very soon.

LordHiffy:
this guy has become a nuisance. first it was tithe issue, now fasting and prayer is gradually becoming his problem... how soon till he starts saying "theres no God"?

I have said it before. He is on a mission.

majekdom2:
who is the "you" that you know is praying for a car? Who is the person that you know is not working. Who is the you! Stop being critical. Do you own part, leave peopl with their beliefs. There are are thousand and one billionaires that will be part of the fast. RCCG is an institution in more than 190 nations... can this be ordinary whilst freeze is a man known in few states in a country. We should use our common sense here and not always follow what a silly man who wants attention says!

God bless you.
just want to ask that since freeze have been working hard and have been using is "immaginations" what has achieve until he started abusing pastors.
I rest my case.

judge not

djon78:





Honestly you are really not smart indeed. Look at the very stupid question you are asking. Imagine talking about industrial revolution of 100s of years before. That is very stupid.

You would have asked what the nations that got developed the last 30 years what they did. What did countries like South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, Hongkong UAE, Qatar, etc did to get developed. What economic models did they apply to become developed nations.

I don't know where you have been in the world, I have been to some of these countries I quoted and also been to some developed western nations and I can tell you that these countries I quoted have better and modern infrastructures than some of these western nations and the speed they are coming they will displace the west in coming decades.
Eg changi international Airport Singapore has been winning the best Airport in the world for the past years. Emirates Airport Dubai is the leading Airport hub now in the world, and many other things

You, your entire family, your whole local government, town and state are morons! Look at this empty imp. What do you know about development? Stupid mullato!

Get this into that generational empty skull of yours, the blue print of development is the British industrial revolutions of 1700's, every development after than took a cue from it.
Now run off, changai airport ko, zenchen carrier ni. Asslock!

Xbee007:
We just have our priorities reversed in this country. You want to embark on a journey rather than make necessary checks you pray over it. When you have accident you then blame devil and innocent villagers for your misfortune.

No Pastor will ever say you should not take precaution. Even the bible says "watch and pray" not watch alone. Remember the Titanic was declared the safest ship in the world, yet sank. Safety is of the Lord.

dadde:


with all due respect, your view on this topic is so myopic and a demonstration of someone that doesn't understand how things work. Things may not be getting well for you but I know many out there who have seen the hand of God in what their doing.

keep on displaying your stupidity. you will eat your words very soon.

Stupid man, even when i die, my carcass would be better off than you. You think everyone has a small mind like You? You throw empty treats about when your stupid practices come under questioning while you all are killed everyday like flies in your sacred places of worship? Caterpillar fall on you, your daddy/mummy GO and your god. Ashlock!

djon78:



Hey I have been reading your reply to that guy, and from both of your write ups the Guy has got his facts more than you do. You don't even have a basic understanding or grasp of the issue. And he is right with his assertions.

Our major problem is very bad leaders, visionless and mental laziness as a people. It is the work of the leaders to put in basic infrastructures like electricity, good road networks etc. The Church is not the problem.

And you are the Authority who says what is correct or not? Lol, you must really think highly of yourself.

For the umpteenth time, all this are defects of the structure, everybody is looking at the symptoms, their are more fundamental issues, things dont happen in a vacuum.
To the role of religion in development, you probably dont know this, but il educate you. The protestant ethics was one of the reason the industrial revolutions started in great Britain, is that ethics the same as that of African churches today who's message borders 99% on money today?
I want to enjoy my weekend night please buzz off!

1freshdude:


You, your entire family, your whole local government, town and state are morons! Look at this empty imp. What do you know about development? Stupid mullato!

Get this into that generational empty skull of yours, the blue print of development is the British industrial revolutions of 1700's, every development after than took a cue from it.
Now run off, changai airport ko, zenchen carrier ni. Asslock!

Hahaha you know what, anyone that knows his onions and looks at your reply will totally know that you are a very ignorant, uninformed man. You don't even have basic understanding of what you are talking about. And guess what. This is the major problem of blackman and our underdevelopment, when you see a clueless novice bragging when knows nothing.

I just saw your replies and I had to call you out so you don't keep spreading ignorance to deceive people on this forum.

British industrial revolution of 1700s indeed..??. Haha nothing person no go see for Nairaland

djon78:



Hahaha you know what, anyone that knows his onions and looks at your reply will totally know that you are a very ignorant, uninformed man. You don't even have basic understanding of what you are talking about. And guess what. This is the major problem of blackman and our underdeveloped: when you see a clueless novice bragging when knows nothing.

I just saw your replies and I had to call you out so you don't keep spreading ignorance to deceive people on this forum.

You know shit, and you never been anywhere in the west if the only landmark infrastructure you could mention in your imaginary travel is an airport in Singapore...lol..i got to drink my beer!

1freshdude:


You know shit, and you never been anywhere in the west if the only landmark infrastructure you could mention in your imaginary travel is an airport in Singapore...lol..i got to drink my beer!

Haha Singapore in the west.....? Be exposing your stupidly

djon78:



Haha Singapore in the west.....? Be exposing your stupidly

English is not easy, I agree. Read my comment as many times as possible or show someone in your neighbourhood or church tomorrow who has elementary education, they can explain to you.

My time is valuable..I have wasted enough on you.

1freshdude:


English is not easy, I know, read my comment 7 times or show someone in your neighbourhood or church tomorrow, it will become clearer to you.

Clueless novice, shift one side. At least I have seen that you are a complete chaff. Goodnight

djon78:



Clueless novice, shift one side. At least I have seen that you are a complete chaff. Goodnight

Goodnight? Guy die in your sleep for all I care, mumu!

dadde:


so pathetic. you think all you need to succeed is hard work alone?. if it were so bricklayers will be the richest. There is always the God factor in everything.
let me ask you, why are people richer,healthier,living in a better environment than you are dead but you are alive. when you find answer to this we will talk more.

Well, your narrow definition for hard-work is basically limited to physical efforts right? Don't business men work hard?. When I say hard work, I mean intellectual, physical, mental and not your narrow definition of menial hard jobs. I am not saying there is no God factor but you must also know that an atheist who is brilliant and works hard will likely make it than a God believing individual who only hunts for miracles and miracle hunting is what our churches are promoting.

Ekealterego:

Well, your narrow definition for hard-work is basically limited to physical efforts right? Don't business men work hard?. When I say hard work, I mean intellectual, physical, mental and not your narrow definition of menial hard jobs. I am not saying there is no God factor but you must also know that an atheist who is brilliant and works hard will likely make it than a God believing individual who only hunts for miracles and miracle hunting is what our churches are promoting.

Market forces through demand and supply reallocates resources. The set of people with skills/services in highest demand get paid the most.

World's richest men (by all standard) intellect, material are atheist! There is no GOD factor in outcomes.
Outcomes are affected by socioeconomic environments (government, institutions opportunities), if there were any God factor secular states won't be the world leaders!
Think Africans think, think Monkeys think!

1freshdude:


FALSE!

Those things dont give them FALSE HOPES...the PASTORS DO!

You talk about church not been open during work hours, so you go to church after work? is that one work? When you work eight hours here, let me see how you get to the strength to go to one church/religious house...Nigeria doesnt understand what it entails to work.

@bolded, most Nigerians work at least 8hours every week days.
You really are not busy if you work just for 8 hours in a day.

majekdom2:
I have never countered the existence of fake pastors. The bible says they will exist clearly. Freeze is against rccg.a church in 190 nations. There will always be bad and good people. Coming to say pastors are the main problem does not make sense to me.

OK but by their fruits we shall them says the bible.

majekdom2:
I have never countered the existence of fake pastors. The bible says they will exist clearly. Freeze is against rccg.a church in 190 nations. There will always be bad and good people. Coming to say pastors are the main problem does not make sense to me.

OK but by their fruits we shall them says the bible.

majekdom2:
I have never countered the existence of fake pastors. The bible says they will exist clearly. Freeze is against rccg.a church in 190 nations. There will always be bad and good people. Coming to say pastors are the main problem does not make sense to me.

OK but by their fruits we shall them says the bible.

majekdom2:
I have never countered the existence of fake pastors. The bible says they will exist clearly. Freeze is against rccg.a church in 190 nations. There will always be bad and good people. Coming to say pastors are the main problem does not make sense to me.

OK. but by their fruits we shall them.

majekdom2:
I have never countered the existence of fake pastors. The bible says they will exist clearly. Freeze is against rccg.a church in 190 nations. There will always be bad and good people. Coming to say pastors are the main problem does not make sense to me.

OK. but by their fruits we shall them.

majekdom2:
I have never countered the existence of fake pastors. The bible says they will exist clearly. Freeze is against rccg.a church in 190 nations. There will always be bad and good people. Coming to say pastors are the main problem does not make sense to me.

OK. but by their fruits we shall them.

Jalive:

No Pastor will ever say you should not take precaution. Even the bible says "watch and pray" not watch alone.

Logically, we should watch (take necessary precautions) more than we pray. However, when we pray more than we watch then we are inviting avoidable disaster.

Remember the Titanic was declared the safest ship in the world, yet sank.

The people that dubbed the Titanic "the safest ship in the world" were ignorant to the simple fact that no piece of equipment is totally failsafe. Every machinery is fallible, especially those with design flaws. They were also stupid enough not to provide emergency means of escape in the event of accidents.
Most Nigerians don't even know the standard PSI of their vehicle tires. We put our lives in the hands of road side vulcanizers with very ancient equipment. Speed limit is alien to our society. I once boarded a vehicle from my town to Abuja, just few minutes to our destination FRSC stopped us and requested for the driver's Driver's License. The idiot didn't have one! The person entrusted with the lives of a dozen passengers has never held a Driver's License in his life not even an expired one. If accident had happened and we were lucky to tell the tale we would have blamed the devil and innocent villagers.

Safety is of the Lord.

Perhaps it is, perhaps it is not. China has the largest road users in the world. More vehicles far more than Nigerians could possibly imagine. Yet, it has one of the lowest rate of vehicular accidents in the world. Isn't that surprising?
And guess what. They don't even believe in the Lords we worship!

sweetlaw:




Which dance?

He didn't insult anybody, just starting the obvious but again it's not for people who have been brainwashed to understand sha

He who the gods want to kill they first make mad...
I have nothing more to say, but mark it.