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Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by Obi1kenobi(m): 10:36pm On Mar 25, 2018
shervydman:

Since the east is short on those aforementioned resources (natural, agricultural, human, industries n so on) and 3 out of 5 states still managed to generate more than #10b compared with 2 out of 13 core northern states that accomplished that feat, not minding d fact that north has some of those resources. if the east now have about 50% nko??

The region is not short on human resources. And you're coming to my point that if we had anything like the endowments of the North, we would be in an even much better position. The North is the most naturally endowed region in this country, but their masses are held back by a culture which discourages upward social mobility, and their elite are more focused on grasping for Niger Delta oyel than educating their plebs or exploiting the considerable natural potential they have.

The SE has to do better though in establishing industries (we have low agricultural potential since landmass is small, and we have less minerals than other regions). And has to attract its sons to invest in their homeland. And has to play their politics right to attract more Federal infrastructure.

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Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by DerideGull(m): 10:45pm On Mar 25, 2018
Osaze007:


Stop shifting goal post
USA is the wealthiest nation but has highest debt
Point is south east is a poor shit hole region

Education from a garbage truck. Who is USA indebted?

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Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by DerideGull(m): 10:49pm On Mar 25, 2018
0monnak0da:
What about exodus? The borders are open. You can go back to Jerusalem?

When Nigerians get to the point of exodus, we shall know those to be repatriated. I know for sure that certain peeps migrated from Oyo Ile, a distance of 30 miles north of Ilorin, Kwara State.

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Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by MarysMeal: 10:56pm On Mar 25, 2018
Gorotango, where are you? Come and explain how you feed the nation.

Despite the quotes from omonakoda, the gworo eater couldn't respond to one. Lmao grin

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Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by OkutaNla: 11:00pm On Mar 25, 2018
DerideGull:


Education from a garbage truck. Who is USA indebted?


https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-the-united-states-of-america-is-most-in-debt-to.html

Countries The United States Of America Is Most In Debt To

Around two-thirds of the U.S. National debt is owed to the American public by way of the Social Security System and the Federal Reserve. Through these, the U.S. government issues Treasury Securities to issue its debts. The other claimants to U.S. Treasuries and their debts are foreign countries.

5. Brazil ($247 Billion USD)

One of the countries is Brazil, with about $247.3 billion USD owed as of February of 2016. Brazil has the ninth largest economy in the world as of 2015. As a result, it has achieved international influence and has regional say in South America. Its estimated Purchasing Power Parity (PPP) Gross Domestic Product (GDP) total as of 2016 is $3.208 trillion while per capita is $15,690. Its currency is the Real. Brazil has been touted to become one of the five biggest economies in the years to come.

4. Ireland ($256 Billion USD)
Ireland owns about $256 billion in US debt as of February of 2016. In 1973, Ireland joined the European Economic Union (EEC) and followed its own liberal economic policies that gave its economy a headway that continued to 2007 but the world economy suffered a tailspin in 2008. However with recovery, Ireland and Germany were graded by the United Nations as the sixth most developed nations in the world. Its estimated GDP PPP total as of 2016 is $272.867 billion while its GDP per capita is $58,373.00. Its currency is the Euro. It is a member of several organizations such as: the European Union, Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development, and the Council of Europe.

3. Japan ($1.13 Trillion USD)
Japan owns about $1.13 Trillion USD in U.S. Treasuries as of February of 2016. The country ranks as a great power, and belongs to the G20, G8, and G7 countries. It is also a member of the United Nations. Its economy is the world's fourth biggest by purchasing power parity (PPP) and the third by nominal GDP. Its estimated GDP PPP total as of 2016 is $4.842 trillion while its GDP per capita is $38,210.00. It nominal GDP puts it as the third biggest economy in the world after the United States and China. Its exports are considered as one of the most advanced in electronics, automobiles, ships, chemicals, textiles, and steel. Although its public debt has risen to about 200% of its GDP. Its currency is the Yen.

2. China ( $1.25 Trillion USD)
China has about $1.25 Trillion USD in U.S. Treasuries as of February of 2016. In 1978, the Chinese government initiated economic reforms that started an economic expansion that led to China's economic boom. Its estimated GDP PPP total as of 2016 is $19,392 trillion while its GDP per capita is $14,107.00. This also led to a record of 568 billionaires in the People's Republic of China, including 28 billionaires younger than 40 years old, and 93 female billionaires. China has the world's second biggest economy as of 2014. From 2007 to 2011, China's economy rose at the same rate as all of the G7 countries combined.

1. Itself ($12.9 Trillion USD)
The United States owes itself about $12.9 Trillion USD as of February of 2016. The debt is divided among several government agencies such as the Social Security System, with around a 16% share, several federal government agencies holding about 13%, and the Federal Reserve holding about 12%. Although the world markets has had its ups and downs in the recent decade, the United States is still considered as a safe haven for investments. Its estimated GDP PPP total as of 2016 is $18.124 trillion while its GDP per capita is $56,421.00. The United States has the world's biggest economy in real and nominal GDP. Its Human Development Index, average wage, and per capita GDP figures in the world's top 10 in economic well-being.

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Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by ocelot2006(m): 11:02pm On Mar 25, 2018
GoroTango:
Don't you ever in your life call the north parasites because we feed you. All the grains and beef you eat is it being farmed in your village?

And all the oil thats this nation's MAIN MONEY EARNER and source of your infrastructural funds, where do you think it comes from?

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Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by MarysMeal: 11:07pm On Mar 25, 2018
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DerideGull:


Education from a garbage truck. Who is USA indebted?

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U.S. Debt to China: How Much Does It Own? ... The U.S. debt to China is $1.17 trillion as of January 2018. That's 19 percent of the $6.26 trillion in Treasury bills, notes, and bonds held by foreign countries.


https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.thebalance.com/u-s-debt-to-china-how-much-does-it-own-3306355&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwi1tavdvIjaAhUQZ1AKHVlYCvsQFjAAegQICRAB&usg=AOvVaw1PlwF446x417HCswLXZAqb

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Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by Truthcat: 11:08pm On Mar 25, 2018
Keep deceiving yourself, when you know Nigeria is saving you greatly. Giving lip service to disintegration, disturbing everyone with cry of marginalization, while fleeing to other regions, and actually going after getting your biafra are two different things.
DerideGull:


Omo Kanda, yet some folks in the shithole called Nigeria will run short of suicide when disintegration is mentioned. How humanly possible that people who erroneously flaunt themselves as IGR maker are the same ones to develop convulsion when disintegration of Nigeria is slightly invoked?

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Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by MarysMeal: 11:10pm On Mar 25, 2018
ocelot2006:


And all the oil thats this nation's MAIN MONEY EARNER and source of your infrastructural funds, where do you think it comes from?

Abeg make una pity that gworo eater.

The guy right now grin

Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by Truthcat: 11:15pm On Mar 25, 2018
You can't give what you don't have. If you can't do it in your house, you can't do it in your neighbors house. You ibos contribute nothing to your host communities, you are freeloaders.
newbornmacho:
The Igbos in other regions are responsible for the igr in those regions.

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Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by Lot13(m): 11:19pm On Mar 25, 2018
joeyfire:


Leave all this awada kerikeri. Ogun State is nothing without Lagos, Lagos is NOTHING without diversity
Nonsense.

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Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by OkutaNla: 11:24pm On Mar 25, 2018
Truthcat:
You can't give what you don't have. If you can't do it in your house, you can't do it in your neighbors house. You ibos contribute nothing to your host communities, you are freeloaders.

Are you minding that ignoramus? We have asked them to show us these ibos that are responsible for the IGR of other regions coz most taxes aren't gotten from 2x2 shop traders. They are well known tax evaders who use the excuse of appreticeship to evade remitting PAYE to the govt (they will claim they don't pay wages to their 'apprentices'). Even Lagos derives most of its IGR from PAYE which stands 'pay as you earn' and is personal income tax from employees' salaries and wages through deduction at source by an employer (and we all know those who constitute the bulk of that revenue stream, and they are NOT ibo traders, else Anambra/Onitsha and Abia/Aba would be posting the highest igr since they have more Igbo traders than anywhere else). Ditto Ogun as well as Oyo. Leave them make dem continue to delude themselves.

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Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by Truthcat: 11:25pm On Mar 25, 2018
They are prospecting states added to the real oil states due to politics. We all know that not even a spoon of oil is coming out of any igbo state. If you say palm oil now, I understand, not crude oil.
CSTR2:

Two Niger delta states are in the SE.

what are you on about?

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Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by Truthcat: 11:29pm On Mar 25, 2018
Don't mind them, they know exactly what you are talking about but just want to use mob action to confuse you.
0monnak0da:
You are very intelligent


The point is a simple one what fraction of a state's GDP is IGR and what fraction is allocation.


The greater the latter is the more parasitic it is

That is very elementary logic When a state funds its budget by 90$ allocation then parasitism comes into the equation except for the major oil producing states non of which is in the SE . If it was it would reflect in the size of the allocation

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Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by Truthcat: 11:36pm On Mar 25, 2018
One wonders what will happen when they finally wake up to reality, cos as it is they are still in fantasy land.
OkutaNla:


Are you minding that ignoramus? We have asked them to show us these ibos that are responsible for the IGR of other regions coz most taxes aren't gotten from 2x2 shop traders. Even Lagos derives most of its IGR from PAYE which stands 'pay as you earn' and is personal income tax from employees' salaries and wages through deduction at source by an employer (and we all know those who constitute the bulk of that revenue stream, and they are NOT ibo traders). Ditto Ogun as well as Oyo. Leave them make dem continue to delude themselves.

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Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by Truthcat: 11:43pm On Mar 25, 2018
It doesn't matter, they are siblings, Lagos to Kogi and every town in between. Focus on your region.
joeyfire:


If Lagos was a house, Ogun State would be the cheap BQ. Ogun owes EVERYTHING to being next to Lagos.

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Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by Truthcat: 11:53pm On Mar 25, 2018
Fg used SW money to build that bridge just like Yoruba built the rest of Nigeria and also developed the oil which after discovery is just now a mere addition. SW still does not live on oil just as it has been since the time of the colonial. The money generated in Yorubaland is what Nigeria runs on mostly, not oil, that's including our own oil.
joeyfire:
FG used oil money to build this. Pls show me what you people built with IGR biko

Na una be the chief parasites
Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by Truthcat: 12:12am On Mar 26, 2018
@ op, to your question.

Both the North and SE are parasitic, reason they are holding on to Nigeria.

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Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by Truthcat: 12:25am On Mar 26, 2018
Your problem is, you couldn't mention disintegration when the opportunity presented itself at the national conference, all you ask for was a state. The other region that loves the current arrangement in Nigeria as much as you do is your natural ally the core north, because you have so much in common, from parasitism to survival of your region after Nigeria is no more.
DerideGull:


When disintegration of Nigeria is mentioned, you wail like a heavy rain.

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Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by Nobody: 1:25am On Mar 26, 2018
GoroTango:
Don't you ever in your life call the north parasites because we feed you. All the grains and beef you eat is it being farmed in your village?
Southern Nigeria Soil is far more fertile than the one in the North.
Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by Nobody: 1:32am On Mar 26, 2018
0monnak0da:
It is a tax but the parasite argument here is based on the premise that the core f the SE budget is based on allocations from other regions so without those allocations the SE governments are not viable

That is the point of discussion here

Compare with Ogum state where 70% of budget is IGR

so we are talking about how much of ths budget is Internally Generated and how much is allocation??




""without those allocations the SE governments are not viable""

Lmao, Na craze de worry una.

Same SE that cannot survive in Nigeria said ok let me carry my useless self n form my own country for the poor and the Afonja n Awusa scream heavy NOOOOO. U must stay wit us in Nigeria.


That's how to know who the parasites are in descending order.

Meanwhile SE is a geographic expression, or isn't the home of the igbos.

Igbo land spans to SS n in that SS, the most populated tribe is Igbo.

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Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by Nobody: 1:34am On Mar 26, 2018
GoroTango:
How can you call the north parasitic when we practically feed this country?


Lol.
Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by 0monnak0da: 2:25pm On Mar 26, 2018
PrecisionFx:





""without those allocations the SE governments are not viable""

Lmao, Na craze de worry una.

Same SE that cannot survive in Nigeria said ok let me carry my useless self n form my own country for the poor and the Afonja n Awusa scream heavy NOOOOO. U must stay wit us in Nigeria.


That's how to know who the parasites are in descending order.

Meanwhile SE is a geographic expression, or isn't the home of the igbos.

Igbo land spans to SS n in that SS, the most populated tribe is Igbo.

How does trying to take Ore translate into leaviing . Trying to take Benin? Trying to take SS?

Greedy and covetuous people!!


Truth is that you tried to take what was not yours and paid dearly for it.

Now you are free to leave and go anywhere you like: Libya Jerusalem etc

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Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by 0monnak0da: 2:26pm On Mar 26, 2018
The fact is the SE is just full ofbeggar Almajiri states lining up in Abuja for ALLOCATION whilst contributing next to nothing

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Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by Nobody: 2:52pm On Mar 26, 2018
0monnak0da:


How does trying to take Ore translate into leaviing . Trying to take Benin? Trying to take SS?

Greedy and covetuous people!!


Truth is that you tried to take what was not yours and paid dearly for it.

Now you are free to leave and go anywhere you like: Libya Jerusalem etc

Lmao, taking ore n ogbomosho to use it and coup which soup? As in Ofe Ora? Lol.

Now run along boy, join the other Piglets in the mud for a mud fight.

Cuz If u were a man, u would have understood what happened in ore.

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Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by PVision2020(m): 2:57pm On Mar 26, 2018
GoroTango:
As for you inyamiri there is no greater parasite than you, which goes a long way to explain the low IGR your region generates and what ten million of your destitute brethren are doing in mine.
LOL... Finishing... savage
Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by Nobody: 2:57pm On Mar 26, 2018
shervydman:

U normal at all
Very normal indeed
Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by PVision2020(m): 3:06pm On Mar 26, 2018
newbornmacho:
The Igbos in other regions are responsible for the igr in those regions.
Igbos are responsible for IGR in other regions but irresponsible for IGR in their region. Your case is extremely pathetic.

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Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by 0monnak0da: 3:33pm On Mar 26, 2018
PrecisionFx:

Lmao, taking ore n ogbomosho to use it and coup which soup? As in Ofe Ora? Lol.

Now run along boy, join the other Piglets in the mud for a mud fight.

Cuz If u were a man, u would have understood what happened in ore.

Mud fight

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Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by Igboid: 5:07pm On Mar 26, 2018
Obi1kenobi:
Yes. The South East is parasitic. Short on industries. Short on agricultural output. It's the least naturally endowed region in the country when you look at the size, population, paucity of mineral or natural resources, landlocked location etc. On top of all this, it has easily the lowest level of Federal infrastructural or industrial investment. By far.

I wouldn't say we're as parasitic as the North. Only Kano and Kaduna out of the 13 "core North" states (i.e the real abokis in the NE and NW) raise up to N10billion a year in IGR, while 3 SE states out of 5 manage to do so. I'm surprised it's not 4 out of 5 as I'm shocked Imo can only raise just over N6billion in IGR in a year which puts them at the level of Ebonyi. Well done o, Okorocha. grin

What do you mean by saying that SE is parasitic?
Do you mind expanding that blatant statement?


Short on industries? Multinational industries you mean?
Short on agricultural output? Excuse me, how did you arrive at this? Isn't the entire Nigeria a net importer of staple food materials?

Least naturally endowed? Please, what exactly do you mean by this?

The Size? Look at the size of Rwanda in Africa for example, they are currently out doing the shithole, size had never been an issue, if it were, Kazakhistan would be a first world nation and not Singapore.
Population? Please explain what you mean by this, are you saying that the SE is poorly populated or densely populated?
SE is not poor on natural resources, Imo and Anambra are sitting on reasonable reserve of natural gas, Abia and Imo already have substantial crude oil reserves, which in an Independent Igbo nation would ensure we don't import crude oil. It would save us our forex.
Landlocked? That's debatable, we still have the Obuaku window.

Lowest level of federal allocation and investment, yes! This is the only point you made throughout this your post, the rest are invalid, congratulations!


Don't use "we" for SE, your SE origin is still up for debate, and for the records, SE is not parasitic, let alone dragging for who is more parasitic with the North, you need to get your basics right and stop pokenosing into issues you know nothing about.

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Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by 0monnak0da: 5:38pm On Mar 26, 2018
He gave a good explanation. One that is easily accesible to intelligent people

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Re: Is The SOUTH EAST Just As Parasitic As The North??? by Odingo1: 5:58pm On Mar 26, 2018
When they hear Biafra all of them will run away and be calling Brutai to save them, SE are parasites but you guys are afraid of them having Biafra.

Keep on deceiving yourselves cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy shocked shocked shocked.

SE that is parasitic want to have a country of their own, why those who felt that they are not parasitic are afraid to have their own country and manage their own resources.

Higher IGR mean more poor people in a state, you take all the masses money and call it IGR, Lagos state milking the masses and be calling it IGR.

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