prolog2:
As I have told you again and again, languages are not static, they evolve.
For example, the words "friend" and "foe" were not always part of english, they were borrowed from the vikings.
You are not being logical.
I don't see the logics of you believing that the Edo borrowed the word from yoruba.
If one same word is in two different languages, how do you get the guts to say, "those guys ost have copied it ?" Where is your proof ?
Even your yorubanized "translation" of Omo n'Oba n'Edo makes no sense, indeed the word Edo is left out !

Why didn't you follow this your advice before quoting me saying oba is not a Yoruba word? You were the one who started this argument by saying Yorubas borrowed the word from Edo without a proof. So why the sudden change? are you sure you are normal?

You need serious help.

prolog2:
You talk too much, just show me a precolonial or early colonial picture of a yoruba chief on which the word Oba is mentionned.

Show me a post colonial picture of a Yoruba oba where oba is mentioned.

You must be a sick fellow.

Once again.
Before the colonial era, none of your chiefs had the title "Oba" attached to his name.
The only King who had the title Oba is Omo n'Oba n'Edo.
In the colonial era, "ooni of ife sir Adesoji Aderemi" changed his nomnclature to "ooni of ife oba Adesoji Aderemi"
Soon after that all your other yoruba chiefs followed.
That is the copying.
You can spot the early photos of Adesoji Aderemi in which he is referred to as "ooni of ife sir Adesoji Aderemi", in the later ones he is referred to as "ooni of ife oba Adesoji Aderemi"

blazhykowskyi:


Why didn't you follow this your advice before quoting me saying oba is not a Yoruba word? You were the one who started this argument by saying Yorubas borrowed the word from Edo without a proof. So why the sudden change? are you sure you are normal?

You need serious help.

prolog2:
Once again.
Before the precolonial era, none of your chiefs had the title "Oba" attached to his name.
The only King who had the title Oba is Omo n'Oba n'Edo.
In the colonial era, "ooni of ife sir Adesoji Aderemi" changed his nomnclature to "ooni of ife oba Adesoji Aderemi"
Soon after that all your other yoruba chiefs followed.
That is the copying.
You can spot the early photos of Adesoji Aderemi in which he is referred as "ooni of ife sir Adesoji Aderemi", in the later once he is referred to as "ooni of ife oba Adesoji Aderemi"

Your Ife prince started using oba in 1920.

Go and ask your elders. You are just too young and dumb to rewrite history.

Give it a rest.

blazhykowskyi:


Show me a post colonial picture of a Yoruba oba where oba is mentioned.

You must be a sick fellow.

I fail once again to see the relevancy of your question.
Although here is a photo taken in th colonial era in which your ooni has already copied the title "Oba":

http://www.sojigraphics.com/2017/07/oba-adesoji-aderemi-personal-testimony.html

prolog2:


I fail once again to see the relevancy of your question.
Although here is a photo taken in th colonial era in which your ooni has already copied the title "Oba":

http://www.sojigraphics.com/2017/07/oba-adesoji-aderemi-personal-testimony.html

Show me a picture of your prince before he copied oba from Yoruba.

Perharps it is time you show a precolonial or early colonial picture of a yoruba chief bearing the title "Oba" ?


You keep deviating from the question.

What I said is very simple: The only King to whom the title Oba belongs is Omo n'Oba n'Edo (Oba in short).
Precolonial texts and precolonial photos of the Oba show him to be holding this tite in those periods.
Now, what exactly shows your yoruba chiefs to be holding this title in precolonial days ?
Show me a precolonial picture in which a yoruba chief is called "Oba".

blazhykowskyi:


Show me a picture of your prince before he copied oba from Yoruba.

blazhykowskyi:


Your Ife prince started using oba in 1920.

Go and ask your elders. You are just too young and dumb to rewrite history.

Give it a rest.

There are several pctures of Oba Ovonramwen taken in 1897 which clearly say either "Oba of Benin Kingdom", either "Omo n'Oba n'Edo".

adewoleshittu:
stop posting rubbish the new minister is not an hausa he is a native of iwo and a famous islam scholar in iwo.

don't mind the oponu ayirida op
the scholar is the son of baba baaqi from Iwo land. I don't know what concerns ipob concern this matter now

Reelectbuhari:


whenever I see u comment.....we shed tears....

one day south south will fall to fulani....is certain...

we know south east will be very hard to fall.....

but we here are certain that one day south south will fall to us....


prof sagay , payt utomi and others is always on our side....

Afonja do something with your life abeg.

Nonaira3:

Afonja do something with your life abeg.

am no afonja.....

You have some comprehension problems.
I have always claimed that the title "Oba" doesn't belong to any yoruba chief.
The title "Oba" belongs to Omo n'Oba n'Edo. Perharps you will get this now since this is the 5th time I am telling this to your slow brain.
What I am claiming is that your yoruba chiefs copied it when they were seeking relevance.

Before the colonial era, none of your chiefs had the title "Oba" attached to his name.
The only King who had the title Oba is Omo n'Oba n'Edo.
In the colonial era, "ooni of ife sir Adesoji Aderemi" changed his nomnclature to "ooni of ife oba Adesoji Aderemi"
Soon after that all your other yoruba chiefs followed.
That is the copying.
You can spot the early photos of Adesoji Aderemi in which he is referred to as "ooni of ife sir Adesoji Aderemi", in the later ones he is referred to as "ooni of ife oba Adesoji Aderemi"

blazhykowskyi:


You are now contradicting yourself. You said he adopted oba title but you wrote "holding the title of ooni"

As I though, you are quoting a wikipedia page written by a faceless and ignorant individual.
Your approach to knowledge is faulty.
You shouldn't accept a claim as true when it is not accompanied by a proof.
I really hope you actually realise the childishness of your question and I hope you realize that you need to learn how to think rationally.
I really wonder what they teach you guys in nigerian schools.
When my generation started writing down wikipedia, we didn't intend it to be a tool for history rewriters. But it seems that the usual yoruba suspects have filled the african history sections with their fake-history. This will only help yoruba to further confuse the youth. yoruba love confusion and lies.
Also, can you explain me why you yoruba lots all have the same talking points ? You all just keep quoting this made up story. And the most annoying is that you always assume that the person you are talking to has never heard the story. But here is a kicker: it is only a made up story, nothing more.

obaaderemi:
You've not said anything but hurl angry childish insults like a little girl. Historian, what is the meaning and origin of the name "Bini"?

prolog2:
As I though, you are quoting a wikipedia page written by a faceless and ignorant individual.
Your approach to knowledge is faulty.
You shouldn't accept a claim as true when it is not accompanied by a proof.
I really hope you actually realise the childishness of your question and I hope you realize that you need to learn how to think rationally.
I really wonder what they teach you guys in nigerian schools.
When my generation started writing down wikipedia, we didn't intend it to be a tool for history rewriters. But it seems that the usual yoruba suspects have filled the african history sections with their fake-history. This will only help yoruba to further confuse the youth. yoruba love confusion and lies.
Also, can you explain me why you yoruba lots all have the same talking points ? You all just keep quoting this made up story. And the most annoying is that you always assume that the person you are talking to has never heard the story. But here is a kicker: it is only a made up story, nothing more.

What is the meaning of the word "Bini"? No one mentioned Wikipedia here but you. I don't know why you are running away from a simple question.

prolog2:
You are one funny fellow.
Let me break it down for you: I do not work for you !
What in your sick brain makes you thing you can just throw all these claims at me and expect me to respond to all of them at once as if I were a robot working for you ?

Do u have answers to them? If not keep quiet. Masters my foot

where did you get the "meaning" of the word "bini" ? Which precolonial dictionnary gave it to you ?
It is almost as if you don't understand that I am in a completely differet level ot thinking than you.
While you are watching teletubbies, I am writing a book on category theory.
I have had this conversation at least ten times and I know exactly what you are doing, I know exactly what you want to quote and I know it is wikipedia. You trying to hide your source is futile. Just mentionning the word "bini" already gave you away.
Don't think for one second that you are going to be allowed to just say things without providing the original source.
Soon enough you will start saying that yoruba oral history captured Edo-history better than Edo oral history did (this is the next step of your faulty reasonning).

obaaderemi:
What is the meaning of the word "Bini"? No one mentioned Wikipedia here but you. I don't know why you are running away from a simple question.

When were your great-great grand parents brought back to africa by the british once they were freed from slavery ?
When exactly did the freed slaves and their descendents decide to call themselves yoruba ?
When did they decide to start making up their "history" ?

proudlyYoruba:
Do u have answers to them? If not keep quiet. Masters my foot

prolog2:
where did you get the "meaning" of the word "bini" ? Which precolonial dictionnary gave it to you ?
It is almost as if you don't understand that I am in a completely differet level ot thinking than you.
While you are watching teletubbies, I am writing a book on category theory.
I have had this conversation at least ten times and I know exactly what you are doing, I know exactly what you want to quote and I know it is wikipedia. You trying to hide your source is futile. Just mentionning the word "bini" already gave you away.
Don't think for one second that you are going to be allowed to just say things without providing the original source.
Soon enough you will start saying that yoruba oral history captured Edo-history better than Edo oral history did (this is the next step of your faulty reasonning).

Tell us the Edo version since you don't want the Yoruba version or the "Wikipedia" version. If you are truly a proud son of Benin, then you should be proud to tell us the origin of the word "Bini" instead of throwing insults here like a little child.I am sure everyone can see how you have boxed yourself into a corner.

prolog2:
When were your great-great grand parents brought back to africa by the british once they were freed from slavery ?
When exactly did the freed slaves and their descendents decide to call themselves yoruba ?
When did they decide to start making up their "history" ?

Seeing ur comment makes me feel more intelligent. Ur came here telling us about ur credential and some made up jumbo. You were asked to prove, u started bringing out some 'I don't work for u crap'. Bro I am an undergraduate but I no fit argue like you. Answers to ur question
1) Statistics pointed to two important trends. Around 1807 when the British abolished the trade. The presence of the british naval on the African coast did not halt slave trade since other powers are still engaged in it. The slave trade did not finally end until with the abolition of slavery in America beginning with the British colonies 1834 ; French Colonies 1848 : US America 1865 Brazil and Cuba; 1888
2)As an ethnic description, the word "Yoruba" was first recorded in reference to the Oyo Empire in a treatise written by the 16th century Songhai scholar Ahmed Baba . It was popularized by Hausa usage and ethnography written in Arabic and Ajami during the 19th century, in origin referring to the Oyo exclusively. (Maureen Warner-Lewis (1997). Trinidad Yoruba: From Mother Tongue to Memory . University of the West Indies. p. 20. ISBN 978-976-640-054-5)
The extension of the term to all speakers of dialects related to the language of the Oyo (in modern terminology North-West Yoruba) dates to the second half of the 19th century. It is due to the influence of Samuel Ajayi Crowther , the first Anglican bishop in Nigeria. Crowther was himself a Yoruba and compiled the first Yoruba dictionary as well as introducing a standard for Yoruba orthography. We have different names Omo Oodua, Omo Karo Ojire, Omolúwàbí, Awa Abínibí. Before u start ramnling, Korea was giving to that peninsula by the British, anybody who watches Korea movies will know Koreans call their country 'hanguk'
3) numerous veranda posts were reported to have been used as architectural accompaniment
in the Old Oyo palace. R. W. Keay reported to have seen seven or eight of the veranda posts which have been
miraculously saved from fire in the attack of the Old Oyo (Adepegba, 2007:18), while one hundred brass posts
formally used in the verandas were reported by Clapperton to have been looted by Fulani army (Fadipe,
2012:41-42). Clapperton also reported to have seen wood carving veranda posts. They were expressed in
military themes (Kalilu, 1995:125-142). The contents of the work include: procession of warriors and drummers
as well as animals. The flock of artists into the town is also instructive of the abundant art commissions on
ground for take. Are Lagbayi ara Ojunwon, an eighteen century wood carver was one of the numerous artist
who practiced wood carving in Oyo. He was the progenitor of Abogunde wood carver lineage in Oyo
(Abimbola 1990, Adepegba 1995:48, Adepegba 2007:23). Some of them practice their art in Ogbomoso, Iwo
and Ede.
Sir which of our history is made up. These sre foreign attestation to a military might and country rich in art and craft.
I'm sure this particular point has been covered by some topics on Nairaland. While Yoruba has meaning for Oba, Benin find it difficult to explain what the word means in their language.
Now for the purpose of enlightenment, I will educate you and your likes some Yoruba language structure. See the word "Ba" is very significant in Yoruba language, and it means reign over or oversee something. Examples include
Baale: (the "le" sound is like in let), the expansion of the word is Ba (reigns over) and Ile (the land). So the word Baale means someone that reigns over a land or someone that oversee things on a particular land or area. This title is used for leader of a small communities or villages in Yorubaland
Bale: (the "le" sound is like in lay), the expansion of the word is Ba (reigns over) and ile (the house). So the word Bale means someone that reigns over a house or someone that oversee things in a house. This title is used for husband as they are the head of a house in Yoruba tradition
Oba: the word Oba is a shorten form of eni to ba le gbogbo. Logically, it is sensible to use Oba instead of eni to ba le gbogbo. The break down of the expression eni to ba le gbogbo is eni (someone), to ba (reigns over) and le gbogbo (everything). Hence Oba (eni to ba le gbogbo) means someone that reigns over everything whether it is land, house, river or any goddamn thing. (#copied)

So now answer your question Mr. Masters. With knowledge dispensers like u, Nigeria is bound yo doom.

In case I haven't been clear enough, I will not be answering this question.
I will not promote stupidity. You folks always try to drag perfectly logical debates into non logical territory.
I am posting historical documents to prove my points, I am doing things in a logical manner, but you would rather have a non logical debate about the word "bini". Bring me a precolonial dictionary in which you spot that word and its definition, then you would have something logical to contribute.

obaaderemi:
Tell us the Edo version since you don't want the Yoruba version or the "Wikipedia" version. If you are truly a proud son of Benin, then you should be proud to tell us the origin of the word "Bini" instead of throwing insults here like a little child.I am sure everyone can see how you have boxed yourself into a corner.

What a load of crap. Most of what you wrote didn't come with a source and the only few sources you had were from the 1990's.
This must be a joke, I am laughing. You yoruba really believe that you can just make up your "history". Well, it doesn't work like that, the aim of history is to discover the past, not to make up a fictional past. I really don't know how to say it so that you understand: you are too dumb to actually have a conversation with me. Imagine kids in kindergarten trying to debate you. that is exactly what is happening with you trying to debate me. I see each flaws in your reasoning and I feel very insulted that such a poor mind thinks he can actually debate me.
At least, go and educate yourself for at least 7 years and then come back and debate me. Right now you don't have what it takes.
In a logical debate claims do not matter, what matters are the proof. You give absolutely no proof. It is just claim after claim and then you call your claims education ! Basically, you are preaching your dogma and confusing it with science. Not adhering to your dogma is seen as being uneducated by your narrow mind.
Just do yourself a favour and go and learn how to think. Given your lack of intelligence, it will take at leats 7 years.
One question though: why do yoruba always think the aim in a debate is to impose their vue ? To me, the aim in a debate is to get to the truth weither you are wrong or right. If all you are after is imposing your point then trying to dupe the percieved enemy is the next step. And this is why you and your fellow yoruba always engage in 419 tactics while in debates.
You have to approach debates in the same way as Gallileo. The opponent is more of a coworker than an actual ennemy. The aim is to get to the absolute truth and you are both working towards that aim.

proudlyYoruba:
Seeing ur comment makes me feel more intelligent. Ur came here telling us about ur credential and some made up jumbo. You were asked to prove, u started bringing out some 'I don't work for u crap'. Bro I am an undergraduate but I no fit argue like you. Answers to ur question
1) Statistics pointed to two important trends. Around 1807 when the British abolished the trade. The presence of the british naval on the African coast did not halt slave trade since other powers are still engaged in it. The slave trade did not finally end until with the abolition of slavery in America beginning with the British colonies 1834 ; French Colonies 1848 : US America 1865 Brazil and Cuba; 1888
2)As an ethnic description, the word "Yoruba" was first recorded in reference to the Oyo Empire in a treatise written by the 16th century Songhai scholar Ahmed Baba . It was popularized by Hausa usage and ethnography written in Arabic and Ajami during the 19th century, in origin referring to the Oyo exclusively. (Maureen Warner-Lewis (1997). Trinidad Yoruba: From Mother Tongue to Memory . University of the West Indies. p. 20. ISBN 978-976-640-054-5)
The extension of the term to all speakers of dialects related to the language of the Oyo (in modern terminology North-West Yoruba) dates to the second half of the 19th century. It is due to the influence of Samuel Ajayi Crowther , the first Anglican bishop in Nigeria. Crowther was himself a Yoruba and compiled the first Yoruba dictionary as well as introducing a standard for Yoruba orthography. We have different names Omo Oodua, Omo Karo Ojire, Omolúwàbí, Awa Abínibí. Before u start ramnling, Korea was giving to that peninsula by the British, anybody who watches Korea movies will know Koreans call their country 'hanguk'
3) numerous veranda posts were reported to have been used as architectural accompaniment
in the Old Oyo palace. R. W. Keay reported to have seen seven or eight of the veranda posts which have been
miraculously saved from fire in the attack of the Old Oyo (Adepegba, 2007:18), while one hundred brass posts
formally used in the verandas were reported by Clapperton to have been looted by Fulani army (Fadipe,
2012:41-42). Clapperton also reported to have seen wood carving veranda posts. They were expressed in
military themes (Kalilu, 1995:125-142). The contents of the work include: procession of warriors and drummers
as well as animals. The flock of artists into the town is also instructive of the abundant art commissions on
ground for take. Are Lagbayi ara Ojunwon, an eighteen century wood carver was one of the numerous artist
who practiced wood carving in Oyo. He was the progenitor of Abogunde wood carver lineage in Oyo
(Abimbola 1990, Adepegba 1995:48, Adepegba 2007:23). Some of them practice their art in Ogbomoso, Iwo
and Ede.
Sir which of our history is made up. These sre foreign attestation to a military might and country rich in art and craft.
I'm sure this particular point has been covered by some topics on Nairaland. While Yoruba has meaning for Oba, Benin find it difficult to explain what the word means in their language.
Now for the purpose of enlightenment, I will educate you and your likes some Yoruba language structure. See the word "Ba" is very significant in Yoruba language, and it means reign over or oversee something. Examples include
Baale: (the "le" sound is like in let), the expansion of the word is Ba (reigns over) and Ile (the land). So the word Baale means someone that reigns over a land or someone that oversee things on a particular land or area. This title is used for leader of a small communities or villages in Yorubaland
Bale: (the "le" sound is like in lay), the expansion of the word is Ba (reigns over) and ile (the house). So the word Bale means someone that reigns over a house or someone that oversee things in a house. This title is used for husband as they are the head of a house in Yoruba tradition
Oba: the word Oba is a shorten form of eni to ba le gbogbo. Logically, it is sensible to use Oba instead of eni to ba le gbogbo. The break down of the expression eni to ba le gbogbo is eni (someone), to ba (reigns over) and le gbogbo (everything). Hence Oba (eni to ba le gbogbo) means someone that reigns over everything whether it is land, house, river or any goddamn thing. (#copied)

So now answer your question Mr. Masters. With knowledge dispensers like u, Nigeria is bound yo doom.

prolog2:
In case I haven't been clear enough, I will not be answering this question.
I will not promote stupidity. You folks always try to drag perfectly logical debates into non logical territory.
I am posting historical documents to prove my points, I am doing things in a logical manner, but you would rather have a non logical debate about the word "bini". Bring me a precolonial dictionary in which you spot that word and its definition, then you would have something logical to contribute.

Thank you for admitting you can not answer the question,Sir. You are now confirmed as a Bini wannabe and not the real thing.

Cooly100:


To smoke them out...mention Lagos...and no man's land...in one sentence and you will see them coming out from the grounds...

lagos is a no mans land

just like enugu, right ?

Eagba:
lagos is a on mans land

prolog2:
just like enugu, right ?

the other guy was right

prolog2:
What a load of crap. Most of what you wrote didn't come with a source and the only few sources you had were from the 1990's.
This must be a joke, I am laughing. You yoruba really believe that you can just make up your "history". Well, it doesn't work like that, the aim of history is to discover the past, not to make up a fictional past. I really don't know how to say it so that you understand: you are too dumb to actually have a conversation with me. Imagine kids in kindergarten trying to debate you. that is exactly what is happening with you trying to debate me. I see each flaws in your reasoning and I feel very insulted that such a poor mind thinks he can actually debate me.
At least, go and educate yourself for at least 7 years and then come back and debate me. Right now you don't have what it takes.
In a logical debate claims do not matter, what matters are the proof. You give absolutely no proof. It is just claim after claim and then you call your claims education ! Basically, you are preaching your dogma and confusing it with science. Not adhering to your dogma is seen as being uneducated by your narrow mind.
Just do yourself a favour and go and learn how to think. Given your lack of intelligence, it will take at leats 7 years.
One question though: why do yoruba always think the aim in a debate is to impose their vue ? To me, the aim in a debate is to get to the truth weither you are wrong or right. If all you are after is imposing your point then trying to dupe the percieved enemy is the next step. And this is why you and your fellow yoruba always engage in 419 tactics while in debates.
You have to approach debates in the same way as Gallileo. The opponent is more of a coworker than an actual ennemy. The aim is to get to the absolute truth and you are both working towards that aim.

The logic u were trying to use is 'Since it's history the materials should be like 1885, LMAO'. RESEARCH DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT. Research is an original contribution to the existing stock of knowledge making for its advancement. , the research attitude presumes that the first look and every later look may be prone to error so we must look again and again differently and thoroughly each time. Research also minimizes the role of chance in knowledge acquisition and scientific investigation. I was opportuned to participate in a capstone research project for my lecturer, he threw my papers away. He said 'What sorta dates are these? I won't take this from you, I want 2000 dates not 90s'.Do you know why cause researches have literature review, this chapter has to do with reviewing all existing and relevant works that have been done by other scholars in that particular field of study and it entails a detailed critique of such works, indicating their strengths and weaknesses. The literature review is usually written as summaries indicating the sources i.e. the names of the authors, titles of books/journals, titles of articles, publishers, year of publication, page number etc. So Sir Masters, If I had the opportunity I will cite 2018 materials cause knowledge ain't static it grows everyday. That is for the authenticity of the material u were trying to discredit.
For ur second opinion it is an assertion. An opinion is just like an asshole everyone has one. Cam u answer the questions blachy... asked. Can u do us the favour of replying him. And bro, which University awarded you Msc? Kinda curious

Eagba:
the other guy was right

You quoted a Bini wannabe. You both belong to the same boat.

I really need to stop replying you. Come to france and learn how to use your brain. I am not going to waste my time trying to educate you here.
To tell you the truth, I am tired of this back and forth. You are trying to debate things which are obvious to me. History is the study of historical documents. In order to claim that an event took place at date A, you need documents writen in the period of A which state that claim. (I don't even get the point where you are talking about "your lecturer". I could probably give lessons to your "lecturer".)
I know you guys are not really interested in history, you are interested in rewriting history which is why you want to quote documents recently written. You see a guy who is rewriting history can not magically write his documents in the years 1800. That is one of the reasons the date of documents is very important (it is a first test for fraudsters).
Ofcourse the fake-story peddlers will not like these kinds of restrictions eventhough that is the norm everywhere.
By the way, I wrote this: https://symboliclogiques.files./2016/03/thc3a9orie-formelle-des-catc3a9gories.pdf
I shouldn't have to show what I do, but when talking with juveniles who won't listen to reason, what else can one do ?
Just accept the fact that right now, you are just too dumb to talk to me. Period. Get educated and then look at the subject with an open mind, not a yorubacentric mind !

proudlyYoruba:
The logic u were trying to use is 'Since it's history the materials should be like 1885, LMAO'. RESEARCH DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT. Research is an original contribution to the existing stock of knowledge making for its advancement. , the research attitude presumes that the first look and every later look may be prone to error so we must look again and again differently and thoroughly each time. Research also minimizes the role of chance in knowledge acquisition and scientific investigation. I was opportuned to participate in a capstone research project for my lecturer, he threw my papers away. He said 'What sorta dates are these? I won't take this from you, I want 2000 dates not 90s'.Do you know why cause researches have literature review, this chapter has to do with reviewing all existing and relevant works that have been done by other scholars in that particular field of study and it entails a detailed critique of such works, indicating their strengths and weaknesses. The literature review is usually written as summaries indicating the sources i.e. the names of the authors, titles of books/journals, titles of articles, publishers, year of publication, page number etc. So Sir Masters, If I had the opportunity I will cite 2018 materials cause knowledge ain't static it grows everyday. That is for the authenticity of the material u were trying to discredit.
For ur second opinion it is an assertion. An opinion is just like an asshole everyone has one. Cam u answer the questions blachy... asked. Can u do us the favour of replying him. And bro, which University awarded you Msc? Kinda curious

The thing which I really don't get is why you guys just keep assuming that whomever is talking to you must have an educational background which is lower than yours. How dumb are you guys ?
If only you would agree to just listen to reason and have an open mind !
Instead all I see here are kids who just learnt the alphabet and want to challenge a guy who has been studying category theory for 3 years.
How dumb must you be ?

prolog2:
I really need to stop replying you. Come to france and learn how to use your brain. I am not going to waste my time trying to educate you here.
To tell you the truth, I am tired of this back and forth. You are trying to debate things which are obvious to me. History is the study of historical documents. In order to claim that an event took place at date A, you need documents writen in the period of A which state that claim. (I don't even get the point where you are talking about "your lecturer". I could probably give lessons to your "lecturer".)
I know you guys are not really interested in history, you are interested in rewriting history which is why you want to quote documents recently written. You see a guy who is rewriting history can not magically write his documents in the years 1800. That is one of the reasons the date of documents is very important (it is a first test for fraudsters).
Ofcourse the fake-story peddlers will not like these kinds of restrictions eventhough that is the norm everywhere.
By the way, I wrote this: https://symboliclogiques.files./2016/03/thc3a9orie-formelle-des-catc3a9gories.pdf
I shouldn't have to show what I do, but when talking with juveniles who won't listen to reason, what else can one do ?
Just accept the fact that right now, you are just too dumb to talk to me. Period. Get educated and then look at the subject with an open mind, not a yorubacentric mind !

Ok, great. I goofed. Can you now answer the questions u were asked?

prolog2:
I really need to stop replying you. Come to france and learn how to use your brain. I am not going to waste my time trying to educate you here.
To tell you the truth, I am tired of this back and forth. You are trying to debate things which are obvious to me. History is the study of historical documents. In order to claim that an event took place at date A, you need documents writen in the period of A which state that claim. (I don't even get the point where you are talking about "your lecturer". I could probably give lessons to your "lecturer".)
I know you guys are not really interested in history, you are interested in rewriting history which is why you want to quote documents recently written. You see a guy who is rewriting history can not magically write his documents in the years 1800. That is one of the reasons the date of documents is very important (it is a first test for fraudsters).
Ofcourse the fake-story peddlers will not like these kinds of restrictions eventhough that is the norm everywhere.
By the way, I wrote this: https://symboliclogiques.files./2016/03/thc3a9orie-formelle-des-catc3a9gories.pdf
I shouldn't have to show what I do, but when talking with juveniles who won't listen to reason, what else can one do ?
Just accept the fact that right now, you are just too dumb to talk to me. Period. Get educated and then look at the subject with an open mind, not a yorubacentric mind !

You kept hurling insults all around, that's a sign of a juvenile. And you made mention of a Yorubacentric mind, dude shed away your edocentric mind. My sources provided eyewitnesses account of Bain Hugh Clapperton who was a Scottish naval officer and explorer of West and Central Africa who died in Sokoto, an acquaintance of Muhammad Bello, Usman Dan Fodio and Sheik Al Kanemi the Emir of Borno. Tell me a better foreign and independent eyewitness than a man who accompanied Walter Oudney, a Consul appointed by the Colonial Secretary on his exploration of Africa. Just get 'Hugh Clapperton into the Interior of Africa. Records of the Second Expedition 1825-1827, with Jamie Bruck Lockhart'
2) As per Abogunde of Ede, I will attach the picture of one of his art work. Dated around 1801 - 1850 (Historians uncertain of date but are sure it is in the 19th century). Some of his work are in the Art Institute of Chicago
3) As per the analysis of the oro ise 'ba' - head/rule when you see a Nigerian that speaks YORUBA ask him

Look kid, the important thing is not that the autor is foreign ! Nobody gives a fvck about the origin of the autor !!!!! All that matters are the dates in which the documents were written. To describe an event which allegedly took place at date A, you need documents written at date A.
And stop just throwing names, just post the alleged documents and point out what you are quoting in the documents. That is how it is done !
Like that the people whom you are talking to can verify by themselves if your document is authentic and if the quote actually exists.
Also, don't post documents quoting other documents, just post the original thing ! Let me check the date and the quote !

proudlyYoruba:
You kept hurling insults all around, that's a sign of a juvenile. And you made mention of a Yorubacentric mind, dude shed away your edocentric mind. My sources provided eyewitnesses account of Bain Hugh Clapperton who was a Scottish naval officer and explorer of West and Central Africa who died in Sokoto, an acquaintance of Muhammad Bello, Usman Dan Fodio and Sheik Al Kanemi the Emir of Borno. Tell me a better foreign and independent eyewitness than a man who accompanied Walter Oudney, a Consul appointed by the Colonial Secretary on his exploration of Africa. Just get 'Hugh Clapperton into the Interior of Africa. Records of the Second Expedition 1825-1827, with Jamie Bruck Lockhart'
2) As per Abogunde of Ede, I will attach the picture of one of his art work. Dated around 1801 - 1850 (Historians uncertain of date but are sure it is in the 19th century). Some of his work are in the Art Institute of Chicago
3) As per the analysis of the oro ise 'ba' - head/rule when you see a Nigerian that speaks YORUBA ask him