I want to build a 24hr power for personal use in the future.... I tot about the cost of getting 24/7 light directly through solar, but due to the cost of solar panels and battery for 24/7. I decided to discard the idea. Another came to my mind....
Using a dc motor powered by battery to run a spoilt generator set with coil still intact. Although i intend removing every form of petrol engine from this unit...
I intend charging the battery from the inbuilt battery charger on the generator set by my lame calculations 8.3amp from the generator wont produce enough charge to last 24hrs..... So i tot of charging the battery with a solar panel so as to get more charge that will last 24hrs....
I am not a good elecrtical student but i believe someone would b able to point me in the right direction to achieve this with this set up...

One simple way it might work 24hrs is by using the national grid type of generation transmission and distribution method, if you know, you know

you can achieve this but you have to modify the design. Use an electric motor in place of your DC motor. Combine a gear box, fly-wheel disc and an Electric starter. The battery powers up the kick Starter at the initial stage; which turns your gear box and alternator. the gear box makes sure your alternator rotates at 1500RPM because your generator needs to run at that speed to generate its rated power. you split the out put of your alternator ; and use one to power the electric motor that takes over from your kick starter. (no need to rectify the voltage anymore).

Pharaoh94:
you can achieve this but you have to modify the design. Use an electric motor in place of your DC motor. Combine a gear box, fly-wheel disc and an Electric starter. The battery powers up the kick Starter at the initial stage; which turns your gear box and alternator. the gear box makes sure your alternator rotates at 1500RPM because your generator needs to run at that speed to generate its rated power. you split the out put of your alternator ; and use one to power the electric motor that takes over from your kick starter. (no need to rectify the voltage anymore).

are u saying with this setup i can get continous rotation?
Will i still need solar panels?

What u av to do is modify the DC motor. Recoil it.

What you are aiming to build is called a perpetual motion machine. And this model currently doesn't permit it.

While I do not give up on the thought of stumbling into free energy someday, your concept is greatly flawed. See reasons below:

1. The essence of the PRIME MOVER (engine or DC motor as you intend) is to convert the potential energy in (fuel or the battery in your case) to rotary motion which will then drive the alternator. In practice this prime movers power rating is GREATER than the output power you desire so as to compensate for friction, inertia and energy losses as heat in the wires. What this means is you will lose a significant portion of your input energy in the initial stage of driving.

2. There will be friction and energy losses also in the alternator. Your appliances will also consume some or most of the energy which you have generated.

3. The usual narrative is to connect a feedback wiring to charge the battery again. But in essence you are putting back from what you have left not a whole new energy source. The conversion to charge the battery is also fraught with energy losses.

When you start this your proposed system, it may seem like it is working initially but You will use up the power in your battery before long and not be able to replenish it without adding energy from outside.

This principle I tried to explain is called the LAW OF CONSERVATION OF ENERGY.

If you need constant power immediately, I advise you sacrifice and get solar/wind power first.
I also advise you experiment small, with tiny DC motors (the type we called propeller). Dont spend much to learn how this would fail except you've got the money to throw away.

But
If you absolutely want to keep trying for free energy, think of natural, free and abundant energy sources such as light, heat, soil/organic matter, earths magnetism etc. Now figure ways to harness them for your benefit.

Good luck in your search.

PS: I work with BuildTact - www.BuildTact.com - we build machines to ease problems - 08166165445

david5565:
What you are aiming to build is called a perpetual motion machine. And this model currently doesn't permit it.

While I do not give up on the thought of stumbling into free energy someday, your concept is greatly flawed. See reasons below:

1. The essence of the PRIME MOVER (engine or DC motor as you intend) is to convert the potential energy in (fuel or the battery in your case) to rotary motion which will then drive the alternator. In practice this prime movers power rating is GREATER than the output power you desire so as to compensate for friction, inertia and energy losses as heat in the wires. What this means is you will lose a significant portion of your input energy in the initial stage of driving.

2. There will be friction and energy losses also in the alternator. Your appliances will also consume some or most of the energy which you have generated.

3. The usual narrative is to connect a feedback wiring to charge the battery again. But in essence you are putting back from what you have left not a whole new energy source. The conversion to charge the battery is also fraught with energy losses.

When you start this your proposed system, it may seem like it is working initially but You will use up the power in your battery before long and not be able to replenish it without adding energy from outside.

This principle I tried to explain is called the LAW OF CONSERVATION OF ENERGY.

If you need constant power immediately, I advise you sacrifice and get solar/wind power first.
I also advise you experiment small, with tiny DC motors (the type we called propeller). Dont spend much to learn how this would fail except you've got the money to throw away.

But
If you absolutely want to keep trying for free energy, think of natural, free and abundant energy sources such as light, heat, soil/organic matter, earths magnetism etc. Now figure ways to harness them for your benefit.

Good luck in your search.

PS: I work with BuildTact - www.BuildTact.com - we build machines to ease problems - 08166165445

you dont understand my point... I mean the battery wont b charged from alternator, but a solar panel

Cutefine02:


you dont understand my point... I mean the battery wont b charged from alternator, but a solar panel

In essence, despite the high cost of solar panels and batteries, you're still going to use them??
Then why bother with all the extra construction and connection?

Cutefine02:


are u saying with this setup i can get continous rotation?
Will i still need solar panels?

i dont think you need a solar panel. you will get continuous rotation. but to get this you have to modify a lot of things.
1. use a DC series motor designed for cranes and trains. they have a high starting torque and its torque reduces as speed increases.

2. use a low RPM synchronous generator; they generate maximum power at a very low RPM about 500-600RPM will give a high out put power.

3. You can stilll use a 1500 RPM synchronous generator but be ready to rotate your flywheel and DC motor at an RPM higher than 1500

4, You can hack and modify AN AC INDUCTON MOTOR by converting it in to a Permanent magnent Generator which requires a low RPM to genrate power.

the use of low RPM generators can eliminate the gear box and bulky fly-wheels in your design.