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Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by livelymatilda22: 10:41am On Oct 07, 2018
David Mark's vote= 35

Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by kehinde1588(m): 10:41am On Oct 07, 2018
David Marks's votes= 35
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by sgtponzihater1(m): 10:43am On Oct 07, 2018
Dancing!, Atiku for president!!!!!
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Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by sgtponzihater1(m): 10:43am On Oct 07, 2018
Dancing!, Atiku for president!!!!!
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Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by kehinde1588(m): 10:43am On Oct 07, 2018
Turaki's votes= 65
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by livelymatilda22: 10:43am On Oct 07, 2018
K Turaki's Vote = 65

Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by SHOPPERS(m): 10:44am On Oct 07, 2018
Turaki: 65
Sule Lamido next
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by kehinde1588(m): 10:47am On Oct 07, 2018
Sule Lamido's votes= 96
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by SHOPPERS(m): 10:47am On Oct 07, 2018
Lamido : 96
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by NobleEngineer(m): 10:47am On Oct 07, 2018
Sure lamido - 96
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by livelymatilda22: 10:47am On Oct 07, 2018
Sule Lamido= 96

Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by kehinde1588(m): 10:49am On Oct 07, 2018
Bafarawa's votes= 48
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by SHOPPERS(m): 10:49am On Oct 07, 2018
Bafarawa:48
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by NobleEngineer(m): 10:49am On Oct 07, 2018
Bafarawa - 48
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by livelymatilda22: 10:50am On Oct 07, 2018
Bafarawa=48

Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by fratermathy(m): 10:50am On Oct 07, 2018
Dhugal:

Oga, Ikwerre may maintain a separate identity now but in no way is their culture separate from Igbo culture.
Why don't you face your own culture, or better still, the topic of this thread

Someone said Wike is Igbo and that is what preempted the discuss. Ikwerre is NOT Igbo and there are many distinctive aspects of their culture not found in Igbo culture and vice versa.

Don't start an argument you can't win.

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Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by Mandynews(f): 10:50am On Oct 07, 2018
RESULT Void votes: 68 Jonah Jang: 19 Baba-Ahmed: 05

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Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by Larryslim(m): 10:52am On Oct 07, 2018
Some of the candidates should have stepped down before the primaries, imagine someone with 5 votes??
You no get people ni?
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by jideola008(m): 10:52am On Oct 07, 2018
Big congratulations to Atiku #Team
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by SHOPPERS(m): 10:52am On Oct 07, 2018
Dakwambo: 111
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by kehinde1588(m): 10:53am On Oct 07, 2018
Dankwabo's votes= 111
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by NobleEngineer(m): 10:53am On Oct 07, 2018
Dankwabbo vote : 111
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by TroubleMaker47(m): 10:53am On Oct 07, 2018
Dankwambo : 111
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by 77up(m): 10:53am On Oct 07, 2018
Dankuabo = 111
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by clefstone(m): 10:53am On Oct 07, 2018
fratermathy:


Wike is not Igbo. I do hope you know that? He has never claimed to be so, he has never identified as such, and above all, he doesn't speak Igbo. He is Ikwerre and yes, Ikwerre is an Igboid language according to linguists. The Ikwerres have always maintained their distinct identity and culture. This is akin to Itsekiri, which is a Yoruboid language but maintain a separate cultural identity or like Urhobo, which is an Edoid language but have never identified as anything but Urhobo. To be clear, that a language is described as Igboid, Yoruboid, Edoid, Nupoid, Hausoid, etc, doesn't mean that the so-described language is mutually intelligible with the languages they use in describing them. Most likely, the languages within the descriptive cluster all share the same ancestry, grammar, vocabulary, or other linguistic features. They only use the biggest variant of the language group to describe all of them for ease of description. This, in no way, implies that those who speak Igboid, Nupoid, Hausoid, Yoruboid, etc, languages are members of the ethnic group which has been used to describe their language.

In fact, there are cases where people from different ethnic groups speak the same language. We know of Welsh and Irish people who speak English but do not identify as English people. In Nigeria, we have cases of minorities in the North who speak Hausa but never identify as Hausa people. Even individually, we have persons born into particular groups but who choose to identify with another group. Chief Okotie-Eboh was born an Urhobo but identified as Itsekiri (an adopted identity) all his life.

Ethnicity goes beyond language. Its a complex of identity, consciousness, culture, politics, religion, kinship, and many other things. Unless someone identifies as belonging to a group, its better not to make assumptions, even if the person speaks like or appears to be from an obvious group. This is especially true in the case of the so-called "minority" groups.
I want to use your quote against you. Based on what you have said, as an Urhobo man would you say the Okpes and Urhobos are of different ethnic group?

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Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by livelymatilda22: 10:53am On Oct 07, 2018
Dankwanbo = 111

Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by Mandynews(f): 10:53am On Oct 07, 2018
RESULT Kabiru Turaki: 65 Sule Lamido: 96 David Mark: 35
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by sgtponzihater1(m): 10:54am On Oct 07, 2018
fratermathy:


Someone said Wike is Igbo and that is what preempted the discuss. Ikwerre is NOT Igbo and there are many distinctive aspects of their culture not found in Igbo culture and vice versa.

Don't start an argument you can't win.

Ikwerre can't be Igbo. Some culture may be similar but doesn't make them the same at all.

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Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by 77up(m): 10:54am On Oct 07, 2018
Larryslim:
Some of the candidates should have stepped down before the primaries, imagine someone with 5 votes??
You no get people ni?
and to think millions don go grin

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Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by kehinde1588(m): 10:55am On Oct 07, 2018
Markafi's votes= 74
Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by livelymatilda22: 10:55am On Oct 07, 2018
Makarfi= 74

Re: Sorting Of Votes Begins At PDP Convention (Live Updates) by NobleEngineer(m): 10:55am On Oct 07, 2018
Ahmed Makarfi : 74

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