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Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by escodotman: 9:57am On Nov 09, 2018
oyatz:
1) Now, you are just coming up with your exact grouse...Perjury and lying under oath, a very grave allegation.


2) "Affirmati Non Neganti Incumbit Probatio" He who asserts must prove.
The most appropriate thing to do is to get your 'hardcast evidence' and take the matter up in court.

The late Gani Fawehinmi immensely contributed to the entrenchment of democracy in Nigeria by doing this.


*On a lighter note, you can debate maturely without all these 'Zombies' every now and then.








Oh really? You reject the ''zombie'' label on you but you feel comfortable calling people ''wailers''? Whether anyone wants to take Buhari to court is not the issue here. The issue is lying every time he wants to contest that his certificate is with military which, has become his modus operandi, whereas, his principal recomended him to the military without a certificate, thereby committing perjury by swearing on the contrary. Buhari has contested several times with the same claim about his certificate being with the military, and when he became the Commander-in-Chief, he couldn't order the military to produce the imaginary certificate.
Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by oyatz(m): 11:17am On Nov 09, 2018
Bros , i guess you were around when the Government college, Katsina released Buhari's Statement of results and now that WAEC also issued his attenstation, yet you aren't satisfy.




Sir, what exactly do you wish to achieve from this Buhari's certificate saga?

1) To demarket Buharu's candidacy and make people not vote for him?

2) To make Buhari disqualify himself from the 2019 presidential election?

3) To get justice for a case of perceived perjury?

Points numbers 1 &2 will not be achieved. The PDP and their sympathizers had used this method in 2014-2015 and didn't work and it WILL NOT work in 2019.

On a personal note, Buhari has failed abysmally but the PDP can't win this election based on their present strategies.

Most of the PDP online supporters are people who hate Buhari for one reason or the other but not necessarily patriotic Nigerians. Their approach to political issues is largely emotional and sometimes irrational.


*Zombie is a derogratory and dehumanizing term but Wailers is NOT sir. If you were around in the 1970s ,you must have heard about 'Bob Marley and the Wailing Wailers'.

The Wailers were the energized youths who were complaining about the poor state of their Caribbean country and agitating for a better deal from their leaders (mostly through Reggae music).




escodotman:
Oh really? You reject the ''zombie'' label on you but you feel comfortable calling people ''wailers''? Whether anyone wants to take Buhari to court is not the issue here. The issue is lying every time he wants to contest that his certificate is with military which, has become his modus operandi, whereas, his principal recomended him to the military without a certificate, thereby committing perjury by swearing on the contrary. Buhari has contested several times with the same claim about his certificate being with the military, and when he became the Commander-in-Chief, he couldn't order the military to produce the imaginary certificate.
Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by escodotman: 7:47pm On Nov 09, 2018
oyatz:
Bros , i guess you were around when the Government college, Katsina released Buhari's Statement of results and now that WAEC also issued his attenstation, yet you aren't satisfy.




Sir, what exactly do you wish to achieve from this Buhari's certificate saga?

1) To demarket Buharu's candidacy and make people not vote for him?

2) To make Buhari disqualify himself from the 2019 presidential election?

3) To get justice for a case of perceived perjury?

Points numbers 1 &2 will not be achieved. The PDP and their sympathizers had used this method in 2014-2015 and didn't work and it WILL NOT work in 2019.

On a personal note, Buhari has failed abysmally but the PDP can't win this election based on their present strategies.

Most of the PDP online supporters are people who hate Buhari for one reason or the other but not necessarily patriotic Nigerians. Their approach to political issues is largely emotional and sometimes irrational.


*Zombie is a derogratory and dehumanizing term but Wailers is NOT sir. If you were around in the 1970s ,you must have heard about 'Bob Marley and the Wailing Wailers'.

The Wailers were the energized youths who were complaining about the poor state of their Caribbean country and agitating for a better deal from their leaders (mostly through Reggae music).




Hey man, what makes you think you have a right to declare which Nigerians are patriotic and which are not? This is democracy. Patriotism is subjective. To some people, it is you who is not being patriotic by supporting a man, an obvious lie, over the Nation and rule of law. You said Katsina college released Buhari's statement of result.... You still don't get, do you? No one is saying Buhari didn't start schooling but the issue is DID HE SIT FOR WAEC EXAMINATION BEFORE LEAVING SCHOOL TO JOIN THE ARMY? You mentioned the statement of result his principal released but you failed to mention a recommendation letter also written to the army by the said principal, stating that Buhari would sit for and pass WAEC (not that he had already sat for it), which eventually enabled him to join the army! This should tell you that Buhari didn't enter the army through due process by using a certificate. Again, I don't remember telling you here if Buhari's government has failed or not, what I've been talking about is the WAEC certificate issue. And whether he contests or not is non of my business. The word ''wailers'' has been used to disparage and abuse anyone who sees differently or doesn't agree with the government. Whatever it was used for in the past in music has become irrelevant unless you want to feign ignorance that it's not being used to ridicule and abuse anti-APC people.
Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by oyatz(m): 10:24pm On Nov 09, 2018
Bros,


If you truly read and understood my post, the phrase 'but not necessarily patriotic' is not a yes-or-no declaration but an opinion with a possibility clause.



1) The said European Principal of Katsina Pronvicial School who wrote a recommendation letter for Buhari in 1961 wasn't the same Principal of the school (later renamed Government Secondary school, Katsina) in 2015 when the school released Buhari's Statement of Results.


2)Are you saying both the Statement of Results issued by his Secondary school and the Attestation of results issued by WAEC are non-existent or forged?

If the PDP and people like you who still strongly hold the view that Buhari is an illiterate or has no WAEC certificate are not satisfied, you need to try the legal option to determine his culpability.


*On a personal note, you seemed to have a deep seated hatred for Buhari/ APC (most of your posts on Nairaland in the last couple of months easily point to this).
You have a right to be so but i advise you to be less personal about this Buhari's matter because it doesn't worth it so as not to be seriously disappointed...both APC and PDP are two sides of the same coin.







escodotman:
Hey man, what makes you think you have a right to declare which Nigerians are patriotic and which are not? This is democracy. Patriotism is subjective. To some people, it is you who is not being patriotic by supporting a man, an obvious lie, over the Nation and rule of law. You said Katsina college released Buhari's statement of result.... You still don't get, do you? No one is saying Buhari didn't start schooling but the issue is DID HE SIT FOR WAEC EXAMINATION BEFORE LEAVING SCHOOL TO JOIN THE ARMY? You mentioned the statement of result his principal released but you failed to mention a recommendation letter also written to the army by the said principal, stating that Buhari would sit for and pass WAEC (not that he had already sat for it), which eventually enabled him to join the army! This should tell you that Buhari didn't enter the army through due process by using a certificate. Again, I don't remember telling you here if Buhari's government has failed or not, what I've been talking about is the WAEC certificate issue. And whether he contests or not is non of my business. The word ''wailers'' has been used to disparage and abuse anyone who sees differently or doesn't agree with the government. Whatever it was used for in the past in music has become irrelevant unless you want to feign ignorance that it's not being used to ridicule and abuse anti-APC people.
Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by alen4smith(m): 10:25pm On Nov 09, 2018
socialmediaman:
The truth is that Buhari has lost the goodwill that brought him to power in 2015. Greed wouldn’t let him take the honorable path and resign or do 1 term and let someone more capable lead the country.

He’s no longer believable and Nigerians do not trust him or his promises again because guess what? He failed on every single important promise he made to Nigerians.

By the way, where are the looters Buhari promised to bring to book? Where are the petrol subsidy cabals Buhari promised to prosecute? Who are those phantom looters that returned trillions of dollars while Buhari goes around the world borrowing? How did Babachir Lawal escape justice? What about Kemi Adeosun? Ganduje? What happened to the $45million found in Lagos apartment? How did those involved in budget padding escape justice? Why is Buhari doing 2 terms after promising to do one term?

Buhari is no different from his predecessors in terms of lies, broken promises and corruption, but he’s worse than them on economic management.

Certificate or none, Buhari failed woefully and should not be on the 2019 ballot, but since he is, we’re waiting for him at the polls, that’s where we’ll have the final say!
you have just one vote sir
Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by merbenko: 12:37am On Nov 10, 2018
alen4smith:
you have just one vote sir
From the one vote come a million vote sir, so never under estimate the power of one vote
Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by engineerboat(m): 1:24am On Nov 10, 2018
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Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by escodotman: 6:46am On Nov 10, 2018
oyatz:
Bros,


If you truly read and understood my post, the phrase 'but not necessarily patriotic' is not a yes-or-no declaration but an opinion with a possibility clause.



1) The said European Principal of Katsina Pronvicial School who wrote a recommendation letter for Buhari in 1961 wasn't the same Principal of the school (later renamed Government Secondary school, Katsina) in 2015 when the school released Buhari's Statement of Results.


2)Are you saying both the Statement of Results issued by his Secondary school and the Attestation of results issued by WAEC are non-existent or forged?

If the PDP and people like you who still strongly hold the view that Buhari is an illiterate or has no WAEC certificate are not satisfied, you need to try the legal option to determine his culpability.


*On a personal note, you seemed to have a deep seated hatred for Buhari/ APC (most of your posts on Nairaland in the last couple of months easily point to this).
You have a right to be so but i advise you to be less personal about this Buhari's matter because it doesn't worth it so as not to be seriously disappointed...both APC and PDP are two sides of the same coin.







Look, whether it was the same principal who wrote recommendation letter and statement of result, it does not matter at all. Statement of result by a secondary school is different from a WAEC result or certificate, this is what you should understand. A university drop-out could also give you one or two statement of results, but the most important document is the one that evident the individual completed the school process which would be a certificate. You can continue to look up my posts even since last year, APC agents/supporters and your likes would definitely call it ''hatred''. This is unbelivable! Are citizens not entitled to hold their leaders accountable again? When has airing your views on governance in your country and the state of the nation became ''hatred''? You said Buhari has ''failed'', but what have you done about it, sit down and look and not speak out? This is a democracy, any citizen who criticizes a government should be seen as ''hating'' the leader at the helm of affairs whose the buck stops at his table? With all the indices international organisations have placed Nigeria on, people should just be looking and not speak out like you and APC supporters? Do Wole Soyinka, Northern Elders and Arewa forum, Northern Youths Forum, North Central leaders whose people are being killed by fulani militials, Middle Belt leaders, Afenifere, PANDEF (Niger Delta), OBJ, General Danjuma and so many others, also ''hate'' Buhari? Did Buhari take their lands or houses that would make all these Nigerians and leaders ''hate'' him? WE ARE NOT SLAVES IN OUR OWN COUNTRY!! What is the essence of DEMOCRACY if people cannot voice out and speak to power, air their dissatisfaction about how their country is being governed so that APC supporters and your likes won't term them ''hating Buhari''?
Re: Tonyebarcanista And Co, Come And See Someones Attestation RESULT. by PFRB: 8:10am On Nov 10, 2018
I do not think it was an official thing by WAEC to give Buhari that certificate. It may be an action by a top WAEC official. That certificate from WAEC does not look official.

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