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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 8:46am On Nov 14, 2018
vaxx:
You guys are really close minded, You never give room to other alternative. I keep on saying it that the physical universe is enough evidence for God.

Lets look at this perspective.....

Is fire and water a living thing? ""Disclaimer "" i fully understand fire and water are not living things. But however i am going to give it a shoot.

Fire and water both constituted of basic units. Fire is nothing more than a combustion reaction, and the resulting flame is the visible manifestation of the reaction. The intense heat of the fire vaporizes the fuel source, and, as the vaporized fuel interacts with air particles (free atoms and molecules), a glowing flame is produced. The glow is light emitted from the exited electrons of the air particles. In other words, the basic unit of a flame is the particles of air. Those particles can be thought of as a type of cell, the basic unit of the existent flame. Water is also composed of basic units. These units are called molecules, and they are of the form H2O (hydrogen and oxygen.

Water is the source of life, that most of the animate lifes depends on. It seems paradoxical, how can inanimate become a source of life to animate object? But that is the wonders of universe. Infact the major source of life are inanimate (Air, sunlight and water)

God can actually be an inanimate object, yet still still remain a source of life to everyone .


At least you agree that God is an inanimate object, even though the Bible reveals him as a living being. That's a good start.
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Nobody: 10:32am On Nov 14, 2018
joseph1013:


You expect me to work for the devil, a fictional character who has been made up to serve as Jehovah's alibi?
I pity you greatly because you do not even believe what you just said yourself! Maybe this wasn't intended for me anyways but for those who you are putting up this show for, so I would just pretend as if I didn't hear you myself, and wait till you are ready for me!
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Nobody: 10:46am On Nov 14, 2018
vaxx:
You guys are really close minded, You never give room to other alternative. I keep on saying it that the physical universe is enough evidence for God.

Lets look at this perspective.....

Is fire and water a living thing? ""Disclaimer "" i fully understand fire and water are not living things. But however i am going to give it a shoot.

Fire and water both constituted of basic units. Fire is nothing more than a combustion reaction, and the resulting flame is the visible manifestation of the reaction. The intense heat of the fire vaporizes the fuel source, and, as the vaporized fuel interacts with air particles (free atoms and molecules), a glowing flame is produced. The glow is light emitted from the exited electrons of the air particles. In other words, the basic unit of a flame is the particles of air. Those particles can be thought of as a type of cell, the basic unit of the existent flame. Water is also composed of basic units. These units are called molecules, and they are of the form H2O (hydrogen and oxygen.

Water is the source of life, that most of the animate lifes depends on. It seems paradoxical, how can inanimate become a source of life to animate object? But that is the wonders of universe. Infact the major source of life are inanimate (Air, sunlight and water)

God can actually be an inanimate object, yet still still remain a source of life to everyone .









I've know u to be a traditionalist,but let me not make assumptions,can you define "God" and if you would be kind enough,give me important features that "God" has (is he omniscient.......)
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by budaatum: 3:50pm On Nov 14, 2018
joseph1013:


At least you agree that God is an inanimate object.

inanimate /ɪnˈanɪmət /adjective
not alive. showing no sign of life; lifeless.
"inanimate objects like stones"


Is God an "inanimate object", or non-existent and not an object at all?
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by vaxx: 6:03pm On Nov 14, 2018
joseph1013:


At least you agree that God is an inanimate object, even though the Bible reveals him as a living being. That's a good start.
At least , i agree God can and not God is. They are two different statement and the idea of treating them the same is erroneous. My understanding of God differ from the bible, therefore it will be wrong to give it bible interpretation. I sighted that the water is inanimate and likewise a process too.i gave a chemical demonstration of how the water become a process. In simple term, water Is moving and changing states . From gas--liquid-solid and continually dissolving other substances into itself, then shedding those substances as it moves through plants or land or people (this is how plants get many nutrients, and also how we get oxygen to our intenal organs and glucose to muscles, etc). Water is processional just like living being. So if water the inanimate object is like this , then water is very like human beings and all other entities on the planet.

Even the bible says God created man in his own image, but living and non living things are all testament of God.
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Nobody: 6:13pm On Nov 14, 2018
vaxx:
At least , i agree God can and not God is. They are two different statement and there idea of treating them the same is erroneous. My understanding of God differ from the bible, therefore it will be wrong to give it bible interpretation.i sighted that the water is inanimate and likewise a process too.i gave a chemical demonstration of the water become a process. In simple term, water Is moving and changing states . From gas--liquid-solid and continually dissolving other substances into itself, then shedding those substances as it moves through plants or land or people (this is how plants get many nutrients, and also how we get oxygen to our intenal organs and glucose to muscles, etc). Water is processional so living being. So if water the inanimate object is like this , then water is very like human beings and all other entities on the planet.

Even the bible says God created man in his own image, but living and non living things are all testament of God.
So you are a Christian after all
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by vaxx: 6:14pm On Nov 14, 2018
darkchild64:

So you are a Christian after all
where do i mentioned i am a christain here.
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Nobody: 7:38pm On Nov 14, 2018
vaxx:
where do i mentioned i am a christain here.
Well u quoted the bible so I chose to assume u are a christian,you don't often see non christians quoting the bible,clear me if I'm wrong
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by MuttleyLaff: 10:48pm On Nov 14, 2018
darkchild64:
So you are a Christian after all

vaxx:
where do i mentioned i am a christain here.

darkchild64:
Well u quoted the bible so I chose to assume u are a christian ...
The devil quotes(d) the bible, and I havent seen anyone because of that assume the devil is a christian

darkchild64:
... you don't often see non christians quoting the bible, clear me if I'm wrong
budaatum often quotes the bible

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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Empiree: 5:54am On Nov 15, 2018
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Nobody: 7:32am On Nov 15, 2018
MuttleyLaff:




The devil quotes(d) the bible, and I havent seen anyone because of that assume the devil is a christian

budaatum often quotes the bible
Yeah,but what I meant is that,non believers do not uphold the teachings in the bible like he did
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by MuttleyLaff: 7:55am On Nov 15, 2018
darkchild64:
Yeah,but what I meant is that,non believers do not uphold the teachings in the bible like he did
Show how exactly he upheld teachings in the bible
and I'll show you budaatum, the devil and/or et al have done and/or do the same
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Nobody: 9:01am On Nov 15, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
Show how exactly he upheld teachings in the bible
and I'll show you budaatum, the devil and/or et al have done and/or do the same
vaxx:
At least , i agree God can and not God is. They are two different statement and the idea of treating them the same is erroneous. My understanding of God differ from the bible, therefore it will be wrong to give it bible interpretation. I sighted that the water is inanimate and likewise a process too.i gave a chemical demonstration of how the water become a process. In simple term, water Is moving and changing states . From gas--liquid-solid and continually dissolving other substances into itself, then shedding those substances as it moves through plants or land or people (this is how plants get many nutrients, and also how we get oxygen to our intenal organs and glucose to muscles, etc). Water is processional just like living being. So if water the inanimate object is like this , then water is very like human beings and all other entities on the planet.

Even the bible says God created man in his own image, but living and non living things are all testament of God.
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by MuttleyLaff: 9:22am On Nov 15, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
Show how exactly he upheld teachings in the bible
and I'll show you budaatum, the devil and/or et al have done and/or do the same

darkchild64:
vaxx:
At least , i agree God can and not God is. They are two different statement and the idea of treating them the same is erroneous. My understanding of God differ from the bible, therefore it will be wrong to give it bible interpretation. I sighted that the water is inanimate and likewise a process too.i gave a chemical demonstration of how the water become a process. In simple term, water Is moving and changing states . From gas--liquid-solid and continually dissolving other substances into itself, then shedding those substances as it moves through plants or land or people (this is how plants get many nutrients, and also how we get oxygen to our intenal organs and glucose to muscles, etc). Water is processional just like living being. So if water the inanimate object is like this , then water is very like human beings and all other entities on the planet.

Even the bible says God created man in his own image, but living and non living things are all testament of God.
Just because someone makes a reference or mention of bible verse(s) doesnt mean the person is a christian, doesnt mean the person necessarily upholds or support that particular christian value or not

Paul in his epistles, quotes pagan or unbeliever philosophers
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Nobody: 11:24am On Nov 15, 2018
MuttleyLaff:


Just because someone makes a reference or mention of bible verse(s) doesnt mean the person is a christian, doesnt mean the person necessarily upholds or support that particular christian value or not

Paul in his epistles, quotes pagan or unbeliever philosophers
Fine so ur point is that vaxx is not a Christian ?
No probs
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by MuttleyLaff: 11:27am On Nov 15, 2018
darkchild64:

Fine so ur point is that vaxx is not a Christian ?
No probs
My point is you cant just like that conclude he is a christian basing it on him making Bible references or mentions
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 11:31am On Nov 15, 2018
darkchild64:

Well u quoted the bible so I chose to assume u are a christian,you don't often see non christians quoting the bible,clear me if I'm wrong

MuttleyLaff:
My point is you cant just like that conclude he is a christian basing it on him making Bible references or mentions

If you read what darkchild64 wrote, you would see that he made the assumption based on the bible quotation vaxx made, and he ASKED that vaxx clear the air if he is wrong.

I can't see what he has done wrong. Or are you just gunning for a fight at all cost?

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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by MuttleyLaff: 11:47am On Nov 15, 2018
joseph1013:
If you read what darkchild64 wrote, you would see that he made the assumption based on the bible quotation vaxx made, and he ASKED that vaxx clear the air if he is wrong.

I can't see what he has done wrong. Or are you just gunning for a fight at all cost?
"where do i mentioned i am a christain here."
- vaxx: 6:14pm On Nov 14

The above inverted commas is what vaxx wrote replying back to darkchild64

When I quote Koran, quote etcetera, it doesn't mean I am a Muslim or what not

Some mistake giving correction to spoiling for a fight.

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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 11:59am On Nov 15, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
"where do i mentioned i am a christain here."

The above inverted commas is what vaxx wrote replying back to darkchild64

When I quote Koran, quote etcetera, it doesn't mean I am a Muslim or what not

Some mistake giving correction to spoiling for a fight.

Again, you are gunning for a fight where none exists. He asks for clarification. The guy has provided clarification using a query. Why are you angry?
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by vaxx: 12:06pm On Nov 15, 2018
darkchild64:

Well u quoted the bible so I chose to assume u are a christian,you don't often see non christians quoting the bible,clear me if I'm wrong
what is wrong if Richard darwkin quote the bible or if Williams Craig quote richard darwkin book (aka) ""The god delusion ""? Is there any law prohibiting non Christian to quote the bible


Bible is part of English-speaking culture, so when quoting the bible, people familiar with english easily know what you’re talking about. Plus lots of Bible quotes have entered common speech (brother’s keeper, do unto others, etc. So it’s easy to find a quote that’s apropos to any argument.


I am not a bible advocate but the verse i reference there quite agree with the message i am passing.

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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Anas09: 12:22pm On Nov 15, 2018
MuttleyLaff:




The devil quotes(d) the bible, and I havent seen anyone because of that assume the devil is a christian

budaatum often quotes the bible
Are you now saying Budaatum is a devil? lolzzzz
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by LordReed(m): 12:26pm On Nov 15, 2018
Anas09:

Are you now saying Budaatum is a devil? lolzzzz

If Budaatum is a devil, she's a patient civil devil. LoL
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by MuttleyLaff: 12:46pm On Nov 15, 2018
joseph1013:
Again, you are gunning for a fight where none exists. He asks for clarification. The guy has provided clarification using a query. Why are you angry?
I permit you to continue running wild with your imagination
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by MuttleyLaff: 12:52pm On Nov 15, 2018
Anas09:

Are you now saying Budaatum is a devil? lolzzzz
No, I am not saying budaatum is a devil
but that budaatum, like vaxx, references the bible
yet darkchild64 doesn't choose to assume budaatum is a christian based on him referencing, quoting or mentioning Bible verses
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Anas09: 1:52pm On Nov 15, 2018
LordReed:

If Budaatum is a devil, she's a patient civil devil. LoL
Is Budaatum a she now?
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Anas09: 2:05pm On Nov 15, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
No, I am not saying budaatum is a devil
but that budaatum, like vaxx, references the bible
yet darkchild 64 doesn't choose to assume budaatum is a christian based on him referencing, quoting or mentioning Bible verses
He/She quotes scriptures he/she does not believe in.

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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Nobody: 2:42pm On Nov 15, 2018
vaxx:
what is wrong if Richard darwkin quote the bible or if Williams Craig quote richard darwkin book (aka) ""The god delusion ""? Is there any law prohibiting non Christian to quote the bible


Bible is part of English-speaking culture, so when quoting the bible, people familiar with english easily know what you’re talking about. Plus lots of Bible quotes have entered common speech (brother’s keeper, do unto others, etc. So it’s easy to find a quote that’s apropos to any argument.


I am not a bible advocate but the verse i reference there quite agree with the message i am passing.
Just had to be sure
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by LordReed(m): 2:48pm On Nov 15, 2018
Anas09:

Is Budaatum a she now?

I saw Budaatum use a female personal pronoun so I presume that's the case.

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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by vaxx: 2:49pm On Nov 15, 2018
darkchild64:

Just had to be sure
ok. Now , you are sure.
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Nobody: 2:54pm On Nov 15, 2018
vaxx:
ok. Now , you are sure.
But u refused to answer a question I asked,ur definition of "God"
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Anas09: 3:19pm On Nov 15, 2018
LordReed:


I saw Budaatum use a female personal pronoun so I presume that's the case.
It uses both. I asked It once if it was a she, It reverted to 'he'. lol.

Omobasuron. (am i right?) Are you male of female. Be proud of your gender. Or are you a Hermaphrodite? Don't worry if you are, I'll still accept you as you are.lolzzz.

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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by LordReed(m): 3:33pm On Nov 15, 2018
Anas09:

It uses both. I asked It once if it was a she, It reverted to 'he'. lol.

Omobasuron. (am i right?) Are you male of female. Be proud of your gender. Or are you a Hermaphrodite? Don't worry if you are, I'll still accept you as you are.lolzzz.

Ah OK, Budaatum is gender fluid. I wonder what our religious brethren will think of that. LoLz

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