Excelboi:
I suspect this as well

Yeah same happened to my friend when he decided to cut cost on feeding his birds.
The result was that d birds dint lay eggs.
So he had to switch back and after a week they started laying.

I doubt anyone here has really being raising layers , my dad had a poultry farm for more than 20 years and the average age they start dropping is 24 weeks , if you have chicks that drop earlier then you are lucky to have that set of breed dropping at an earlier age. Do not fret and wait out till they attain 24 weeks ( you should only be worried if it extends to 26 weeks ) , in the mean time you can give them vitamin premix to boost their development

jomoh:


I don’t think going back to growers mash was the best advice. Growers mash was supposed to give them the hieght and weight they need to start laying eggs and once they’ve attained that height then theirs no need for growers again.

No need for grower when they start laying eggs

jomoh:


I don’t think going back to growers mash was the best advice. Growers mash was supposed to give them the hieght and weight they need to start laying eggs and once they’ve attained that height then theirs no need for growers again.

Then what are you suggesting they eat?

Kreamie:
What’s their current weight?

Honestly I cannot say yet. I will mention you when I get that. I'm far from them for now...

virago:
I doubt anyone here has really being raising layers , my dad had a poultry farm for more than 20 years and the average age they start dropping is 24 weeks , if you have chicks that drop earlier then you are lucky to have that set of breed dropping at an earlier age. Do not fret and wait out till they attain 24 weeks ( you should only be worried if it extends to 26 weeks ) , in the mean time you can give them vitamin premix to boost their development

OK ma'am, I find it this very useful and mind calming. I was having the general believe that they start laying by 18-19 weeks.

Likely set backs: 1. Poor feeding ( quality and quantity) 2. Change in location (deep liter to battery cage) 3. Worms (deworm them) 4. Hatchery problem 5. Too much of medications (antibiotics) 6. Poor weight 7. Village council verdict

Feed them properly with grower .these birds that am seeing can not weigh 1.5 kg hence, don't expect bird of weight less than 1.5 to give u egg. Serve them feed Adlibitum that is without rationing . give include vitamins into their feed twice a week.

Excelboi:
Hello people, Please my 86 layer birds have not start dropping eggs and tomorrow will make it exactly 22 weeks old of there age. I belive that by 18 weeks they should start laying. I groom them right from Day old Upto this stage and I gave them necessary vaccine and not a single one have dropped any egg. I'm beginning to get worried as I believe they are due. Any help will be appreciated so others can learn too.

At 17 weeks, I switched to a formulation prepared by self called pre layers feed recommended by an expert in layers and they ate that for like 3 weeks before it was advised to swtich back to grower pending when they will start dropping. The vaccines given to them so far its Lasota, gomboro, deworm and multivitamin... I don't know the precise weeks they were administered. They once had Newcastle disease that affected them in their neck and it was controlled. They are on the top feed, and I use them deep litter system.
They are currently feeding on Livestock Feeds. 1st pix is Week 17, 2nd pix is Week 20.

Excelboi:
Then what are you suggesting they eat?

Honestly at this point you need to speak with a real expert.

But I’m very sure it’s not growers they need right now. They don’t need any growth again. They need to be laying eggs.

First I’ve never heard of anything called prelayers. What I know is that you feed them growers till they start dropping eggs themselves then you switch to layers.

Second you don’t go from prelayers to growers. You were supposed to go from prelayers to layers.

My suggestion is this.

Going by the second picture of 22weeks. The positioning of their arms/wings shows they ready to start laying eggs.

1. Take one of them, kill it and look for sign of egg production in her egg pouch(there should be something like a chain of tiny eggs). Once there’s sign of egg production then you proceed with prelayers.

2. i. Stop the growers immediately
ii. go back to prelayers(feed them for 3days with a lot of water
iii. Then switch to layers and let’s see what happens.

Put radio there na make dem dey relaxed and small breeze make dem feel at home

You need BAF feed.

Excelboi:
Hello people, Please my 86 layer birds have not start dropping eggs and tomorrow will make it exactly 22 weeks old of there age. I belive that by 18 weeks they should start laying. I groom them right from Day old Upto this stage and I gave them necessary vaccine and not a single one have dropped any egg. I'm beginning to get worried as I believe they are due. Any help will be appreciated so others can learn too.

At 17 weeks, I switched to a formulation prepared by self called pre layers feed recommended by an expert in layers and they ate that for like 3 weeks before it was advised to swtich back to grower pending when they will start dropping. The vaccines given to them so far its Lasota, gomboro, deworm and multivitamin... I don't know the precise weeks they were administered. They once had Newcastle disease that affected them in their neck and it was controlled. They are on the top feed, and I use them deep litter system.
They are currently feeding on Livestock Feeds. 1st pix is Week 17, 2nd pix is Week 20.

first of all, its like you were not giving them the proper feed. you don't switch from grower feed to layer feed until you see dropping of about 40% (not exactly sure of the figure). also the reason why they're not yet laying may be because of stress, maybe there are times you didn't feed them at the right time. they are very fragile animals and that stress could accumulate and delay their drop date.

my advice to you is to feed them regularly and don't skip their feeding time, also feed them the right qty. about 200birds consume 1bag in a day(we use vital feed brand so i don't know if it's a brand thing..)

continue giving them grower only until you pick about 20-30 eggs a day.

never leave them without water. water does 70%of the work, while feed does the rest.
you can also try giving them booster in their water

if they're about to start laying, there are ways to tell
- their head(that thing that's on their head), will be reddish and will grow out
-when you do like you want to catch them, they won't try to run, but they will stay in one place and squat
-you can put your finger in their behind, if it slips in, then they're close... i personally never tried this last one, but I've seen someone do it.

Finally, stick with one brand of feed. i recommend vital feed...
I'll restate, keep giving them grower until they start dropping

Yahoo boys have use their womb

Go to facebook and join a group -that will be of great help(profitable poultry farming, Nigeria). Even any other issues apart from this one will be sorted out for you. goodluck

Hmmmm.... in tnis season of strikes who knows. Check around for any calendar. They may be aware that Christmas is around the corner and want new minimum wage.

be patient
don't rush them
they look good and healthy
all fowl no be same
give them time ok?

Excelboi:
Hello people, Please my 86 layer birds have not start dropping eggs and tomorrow will make it exactly 22 weeks old of there age. I belive that by 18 weeks they should start laying. I groom them right from Day old Upto this stage and I gave them necessary vaccine and not a single one have dropped any egg. I'm beginning to get worried as I believe they are due. Any help will be appreciated so others can learn too.

At 17 weeks, I switched to a formulation prepared by self called pre layers feed recommended by an expert in layers and they ate that for like 3 weeks before it was advised to swtich back to grower pending when they will start dropping. The vaccines given to them so far its Lasota, gomboro, deworm and multivitamin... I don't know the precise weeks they were administered. They once had Newcastle disease that affected them in their neck and it was controlled. They are on the top feed, and I use them deep litter system.
They are currently feeding on Livestock Feeds. 1st pix is Week 17, 2nd pix is Week 20.

oga chairman!!!
i think your old layers mean no harm.
blame your president who said"each family two, reduce population"

Excelboi:
Hello people, Please my 86 layer birds have not start dropping eggs and tomorrow will make it exactly 22 weeks old of there age. I belive that by 18 weeks they should start laying. I groom them right from Day old Upto this stage and I gave them necessary vaccine and not a single one have dropped any egg. I'm beginning to get worried as I believe they are due. Any help will be appreciated so others can learn too.

At 17 weeks, I switched to a formulation prepared by self called pre layers feed recommended by an expert in layers and they ate that for like 3 weeks before it was advised to swtich back to grower pending when they will start dropping. The vaccines given to them so far its Lasota, gomboro, deworm and multivitamin... I don't know the precise weeks they were administered. They once had Newcastle disease that affected them in their neck and it was controlled. They are on the top feed, and I use them deep litter system.
They are currently feeding on Livestock Feeds. 1st pix is Week 17, 2nd pix is Week 20.

The emboldened are where you got it wrong..
You don't change livestock feed abruptly.. I really feel for the birds because of the metabolic stress they must have gone through as a result of poor managerial skill from you sir..
If you gave them vaccines and they still got infested with viral disease such as lasota, I further confirms my claim..

Well, my advice is that you should sell them off and start again. Because it's very difficult to bring a laying bird back to laying phase... Except you are ready to spend more than envisaged... At week 22, you should have 10% hen day production...

But if you insist you want to bring them back to life production wise:

Note, are you giving the birds enough and adequate water? The methionine in the diet, I hope it's not adulterated? If you cheat laying birds as little as a gram of feed, they will also deprive you of eggs.. Are you adhering to the photo period required? Do the birds have bright eyes? What is your bird source, how reputable is the company? I can keep on going sir. Factors that could be responsible are much more than I can mention. In fact do you know you could be using adulterated vaccines too? Such as expired or vaccines that has broken cold chain, when do you feed them, do you feed them? What color is the faeces?... And so on
Well, possible solutions are;
1, flush the birds via fasting method as prescribed by owoeye and Akande 2012
2, check the birds for presence of lice or any other ectoparasites..
3, I wish you could stay on quality commercial feed because you never can tell the quality of the feed ingredients used in the one you formulated..
4, multivitamin is also inevitable but to be sincere you never can diagnose birds you don't see..
All the best sir/ma
Owoeye T. I

Dem don do abortion tire, no more egg(s) to produce...
On a serious note
I don't knw much about this, but i feel with the comments related to the topic, you can be sure that all is well, just few more weeks.

tropaz:


The emboldened are where you got it wrong..
You don't change livestock feed abruptly.. I really feel for the birds because of the metabolic stress they must have gone through as a result of poor managerial skill from you sir..
If you gave them vaccines and they still got infested with viral disease such as lasota, I further confirms my claim..

Well, my advice is that you should sell them off and start again. Because it's very difficult to bring a laying bird back to laying phase... Except you are ready to spend more than envisaged... At week 22, you should have 10% hen day production...

But if you insist you want to bring them back to life production wise:
1, flush the birds via fasting method as prescribed by owoeye and Akande 2012
2, check the birds for presence of lice or any other ectoparasites..
3, I wish you could stay on quality commercial feed because you never can tell the quality of the feed ingredients used in the one you formulated..
4, multivitamin is also inevitable but to be sincere you never can diagnose birds you don't see..
All the best sir/ma

Its my first time raising layers hence the lapses. Point taken, thanks.

I think u are the cause of the problem ,its very easy for you to go online and google search anything u think u are not getting wrong, firstly at 22weeks u are using 2 feeder for 85 birds its very wrong, at least u should be having 10 to 12 feeders likewise the drinker, make that correction and u chat me privately

That's not too bad. Unless after 24 weeks before u may think something is wrong.
The average time of laying is between 17-24wks so urs is still within the range

Excelboi:
Its my first time raising layers hence the lapses. Point taken, thanks.

Its obvious.. Well, I must commend your courage... It's not easy to raise pullets..
Don't worry, you will soon get it right. And when you get it right, please don't rest. Keep improving yourself daily because poultry production is dynamic...
Cheers

kolafolabi:
They could be broilers...

Bikonu you guys are wicked

well is one of dose things we c in farming biz especially poultry.
1. good mgt is d core thing. my birds start laying at 14weeks so it could b as a result of feeding dem wit different feed brands dat made dem not to attain d weight 4 laying
2. breed of birds
3. giving sulphur related drug

capponla231:
I think u are the cause of the problem ,its very easy for you to go online and google search anything u think u are not getting wrong, firstly at 22weeks u are using 2 feeder for 85 birds its very wrong, at least u should be having 10 to 12 feeders likewise the drinker, make that correction and u chat me privately

It's 4 feeders Sir. The pix didn't cover the whole poultry house. I will definitely message you.

hope u r giving them their proper meal

The condition i see in that picture is not favorable for them to lay

Contact me for help

Bro I recommend Benza organic solution and benza feeds. If u feed them I believe before a week or two they will start laying they have ovary issues contact on 08060710142

sexymoma:
You sure say dem nor take contraceptive

but why

the problem started from the cost cutting and making feed yourself,I have bred 500 issa brown that started laying in 16 weeks on top feed grower before switching to layers,if they don't attain that weight it will not lay,I will even advice to give them top feed starter for at least one week and see if the protein levels in it will boost their weight gain,also use amin total vitaminl in the water,remember to vaccinate against fowl pox its time for it.