Fetula4u:
The call of God is over my life but i don't want to become a pastor.....what do i do? Please help me am confuse

Fetula4u:
The call of God is over my life but i don't want to become a pastor.....what do i do? Please help me am confuse

Golden6:
Good Day Believer's,

I had a question , about God, and I made the following assumptions about God to ask it;

God can do Anything
God Knows Everything
God loves Everyone Equally
When Sinners die , they go to hell


And someone , who claims to be born again made the following statements in his attempt to answer my question;

God Cannot do Anything
God Does Not know Everything
The soul of dead sinners are destroyed, they do not go to hell.



Most importantly , Not only did he claim God does not love Everyone , he also claimed that God loving everyone is a very stupid idea.



Is that truly what most Believer's believe in ? I am honestly shocked by his views.. especially on that about God's love.



Here is the link to the question I asked,

https://www.nairaland.com/5007574/argument-god-does-not-exist#75489803


Please , try and help me understand how God Exists , and who he is. Thank you

Ihedinobi3:

Hi. I'm not sure what your goal is. It did look like you were just trying to harass Christians like other atheists here do so I ignored your thread. Are you actually asking for a Christian to explain to you what we believe and why we believe it? Is that what you want? Or are you just looking for an opportunity to show off your newly acquired big brains since you decided to become an atheist?

Golden6:






Ohh no..not to me... To the born again who told me that God doesn't love everyone.


My goal is clearly stated in the question I asked.. that the link was provided

Ihedinobi3:

You are all over threads asking Christians to help you understand how God exists and you say that it is the "born again who told (you) that God doesn't love everyone" that you want addressed?

Look, there are plenty enough atheists on this forum with whom you can mock all you want. And there are more than enough Christians willing to talk to you even if they are wasting their time doing so. You can go to them. If you want to have a real conversation, however, you will have to begin with honesty first and I'll join you.

Now, do you want to understand what Christians believe or do you want to have some fun?

BL00DRAW:
It’s the church and Saint Paul that has fed them the dogma of three gods in one god and the blood of the begotten son theory. How their intelligence allows them to accept such a concept of God is beyond understanding.

Rebekkah:
LOVE AT THE 9TH HOUR

Psalm 32:11 King James Version (KJV)
Be glad in the LORD, and rejoice, ye
righteous: and shout for joy, all ye that are
UPRIGHT IN HEART.

Nobody's soul deserves hell. YOU'VE BEEN WARNED.

JeromeBlack:


Hey, please, watch this video below. I want to ask you some religious questions on it. Please the video is not long.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt8kqqHOyww

Ihedinobi3:

I've watched it. Very sad. What are your questions?

budaatum:

Jesu love me now!
I will not wait till the THE 9TH HOUR!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5fXhoxJqQQ

JeromeBlack:


Okay, here are my questions

JeromeBlack:
1) Christians say that God has a plan. What is God's plan for such children who lived for many years under terror and abuse from murderous parents?

JeromeBlack:
2) How can God sit down and watch the abuse of children? (The children were beaten, raped and also had to watch the murder/torture of many victims of their parents)

JeromeBlack:
3) How do you preach to someone who grew up in such abuse? (I know someone who suffered similar abuse and refuses to believe in a God that allowed him to suffer throughout his childhood- he was abused for 16 years)

Ihedinobi3:

Your questions are really one question, in my thinking: why is there pain and suffering in this life if God is just and has a plan?

But I will take them separately for simplicity.




His plan for them - as for everybody else - is for them to be saved from Eternal Condemnation and live with Him free of all kinds of pain and sorrow and regret throughout eternity. That is always back of everything that God either ordains or permits in this life.




First, God is God and is thus not subject to any questioning. That is, it is folly to imagine that God is responsible to anyone at all. What He does is entirely as He pleases. So, it is wrongheaded to call Him on the carpet. A failure to accept this will simply make it impossible for the person asking questions to even begin to comprehend God's Wisdom in all that He does.

Second, this life is really just one very large question for each individual: will you trust God and submit to His Authority confident that He does all things well? Or will you consider yourself wiser than Him and reject His Authority confident that you can do better than He? All of our experiences are designed to give us an opportunity to answer this question. So, even though God does not want us to suffer as we do, He does permit it so that we can have a real chance at deciding whether we trust Him or not. Without a real opportunity to doubt His Ability and Character, we cannot really willingly choose to trust Him.

Third, part of the configuration of the circumstances that allow us to make a choice about God is the choices that other people make about Him. Wicked people exist who are choosing to reject God's Authority and who demonstrate that choice by hurting other people. Short of removing their right to choose, it is not possible to remove the role that they play in creating the circumstances which allow their victims to make their own choices. So, although it is no fault of the children's that they were born into homes like that, it is still an opportunity both for them and for their parents to demonstrate their choices about God.

Fourth and finally, this life is painful, yes, and regrettably so. But it was not meant to be that way. It only became that way because of #3 above. If creatures had not chosen to rebel against God at all, there would have been no evil whatsoever in the whole Creation. But they did and now everybody is touched in some way by it. But God allows it to give everybody a fair chance to choose the eternal destiny they want. In the end, all those who choose to trust Him will find that all the pains of this life will disappear and be replaced by only joy, only peace, only perfect happiness. Things must be this way for now but they will not be so forever.




There really is only ever one thing to say, no matter who the audience may be: we are all sinners deserving of far worse than this world is able to throw at us. For even the least sin, the Lake of Fire is a devastating answer. But we don't have to pay for any of our sins anymore. We can look forward to an eternity completely free from all the terrible pains of this life and the incredible agony of the Lake of Fire if we choose to trust God and walk with Him no matter what.

Life is painful, no matter where we are and what we are doing. There is always something that hurts in a way that can make us call God on the carpet. But if we are honest, God is never to blame. He didn't have to create anybody. His doing so was His Pleasure. We owe Him our very existence whatever it may be. If our life is painful, He promises that if we trust Him now, He can show us a peace and a joy that cannot be touched by our circumstances and experience right now in this life. And after this life, He guarantees that we will never again have any experience like what we suffer through in this life.

This is not merely a fair deal. It is incredibly generous since it was our own rebellion that produced the pain of this life. If we say that we committed no sin to merit being born into such wicked families as your friend was, we must also remember that your friend could only be born if that family existed. As such, even though he was not suffering for something he did, being born there was his opportunity to demonstrate whether he thinks God is worth anything to him. That opportunity had incredible eternal rewards attached to it. Every labor is painful but the payout is what makes it sweet. God is always good to us even in giving us a chance to prove what we are worthy to receive in eternity.

JeromeBlack:



Interesting.

I am summarizing your points as follows

1) The suffering any human being faces is irrelevant in God's eye. The overall master plan is to live in eternal paradise with him

2) God is not subject to us. We cannot question him

3) The original sin of Adam and Eve is also affecting us. We are partly responsible for it. (While you might be tempted to deny this consequence of your argument, remember that you said this; It is incredibly generous since it was our own rebellion that produced the pain of this life.

4) We all deserve to burn in hell because as you said; we are all sinners deserving of far worse than this world is able to throw at us. For even the least sin, the Lake of Fire is a devastating answer.
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JeromeBlack:
I really want to say that I expected such heartless and illogical thinking from you. This is the problem many atheists have with believers like yourself- you put theology before rational analysis.

I will make five points in rebuttal of your theological points;

JeromeBlack:
1) Facts remain facts and the important fact here is that humans are products of their upbringing and environment. This is why a son of a wife beater is usually a wife beater in future. Even the bible says that light cannot come out of darkness. It is actually an exception when an abused child turns his or her life into a good one as an adult in the future- usually the child becomes an abuser or a depressed human being.

JeromeBlack:
2) Coming off from point 1, your God seems to put people in positions that make them less likely to believe in him. I want you note that some of these serial killers had some certain satanic and occultic beliefs. Now, imagine that you were born in a family that belonged to a satanic cult- would you have become the christian that you are today?

JeromeBlack:
3) I come from a catholic background and I can attest that no one explains original sin like the catholics do. You are a catholic. Do you know that the concept of original sin is a catholic creation? Sorry but I left the catholic church because of doctrines like original sin. One cannot be responsible for the sins of his or her ancestors.

JeromeBlack:
4) As a black humanist, slavery rubs me the wrong way. I hate slavery- both mental and physical. I cannot serve a God that cannot be questioned. That is mental slavery. If God gave us brains to reason and ask questions, then he should expect to be questioned by us humans. Your point that God does not owe us answers is both ridiculous and contradictory.

Furthermore, the God you present is not a leader but a slave driver. True leadership is service to one's followers. Have you forgotten that Jesus washed the feet of his followers? A God that cannot be questioned is one that cannot lead. How can you lead people if they do not understand your motives? There is a reason why atheists regard a lot of christian as brainless sheep- they just follow religion without thinking.

JeromeBlack:
5) Even the catholics knew that all sins could not be counted as equal. Even in Dante's inferno, all sins do not get the same treatment. Your view that we all deserve hell because even the smallest sin deserves the lake of fire is nothing but heartless, apathetic and fatalist. Are you arguing that a lying teenager deserves the same fate as a serial killer?

JeromeBlack:
Your view on life is worse than nihilism. Where the nihilist believes that there is no meaning at all, you believe that there is no meaning except the choice between heaven and hell in the afterlife. Both you and the nihilist waste your lives, the difference is that the nihilist wastes his life in meaninglessnesss while you waste your own life in an illogical purpose.

Rebekkah:
LOOKING FOR V'DAY LOVE

14th February is two days away. You won't fail to notice how redder things have become. Just like Christmas, yahooo!

But of course a different kind of Christmas. You know Christmases are spent with family but V'DAY is solely for that special one right?

Let's not bother about the st Valentine myth and all that, it wasn't what you came here for, was it? We're all searching for love, truth be told.

BUT, already we have that love staring us in the face. 'Damn, where's it!??' you'll ask.

IT'S IN JOHN 3:16

GOD'S LOVE SURPASSES ALL. Embracing this love is where the issue is (for some). You don't need any fairy tale reason to have and hold this undiluted love.


The Catholic father who went through tooth and nail to get lovers wedded bla bla bla... isn't he like a second father Christmas. Oh yes, he was an actual father (Catholic priest). Therefore, It'll be safe to say Valentine is the younger version of santa (another camouflage of satan) since they wear the same costume (RED for sacrifice & WHITE for purity, yep!). Valentine's day is a cover-up ceremony (uuuuuuh, sorry to disappoint you this time).

Tracing back to history; 14th February would mostly likely be the exact date of Passover and Purim.

Like Christmas and other earthly feasts, real dates and meanings have been terribly shaded. Remove the covercloth and you'll see satan's horn right at the centre of it. If not why would a memorial for a 'saint' become a day for elevated profanity and sexual perversion.

THINK-TANK!
It's not me that'll deny you of your lover's day gift and all. But we have to end this gullibility. Designating only 1 out of 365 days in a year for celebrating love is very very limiting. EVERYDAY IS LOVEDAY!

All Christians must do is sift off the chaff and bag the millet. Spread God's love on 14th February likewise other days.

Remember, Jehovah is LOVE. There you go; LOVE LOVE LOVE!

Rebekkah:
PMB will win the election on 16th February.

But as for this Buhari you see today, you shall see them no more.

NIGERIA WILL WORK AGAIN, HALLELUJAH!