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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Vic2Ree(m): 12:17am On Mar 19, 2019
IAmSabrina:

Maybe Jack already defined the character's powers, but you have to remember that Captain America has had multiple comic book artists and writers since the 1940s. They've all had their different multiple interpretations of Cap's powerset. Many of his feats and accomplishments in the comics sometimes fall into the range of "super" human.

Are you familiar with PIS & CIS? If you are, you'll know that how a character's powers as described by the creator are not always how they'll be portrayed by the person writing the comic.

If you watch "Death Battles" and other versus matches on youtube, you'll know that feats and achievements are what matter more than the actual character description
Thank you so much. Haba!
I was coming to say this. I really like how you reason.
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by TheKingIsHere: 12:22am On Mar 19, 2019
Vic2Ree:

Have you never heard of Character Induced Stupidity?

Nope, kindly explain.

Also let us know if kingpin who has almost the same feats/stats with captain America, and beaten caps and spiderman has superpowers for him to do so.
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 12:25am On Mar 19, 2019
Vic2Ree:

Thank you so much. Haba!
I was coming to say this. I really like how you reason.
Lol. Thanks

But just to clarify, i'm not saying that Cap has "superpowers". As far as i'm concerned, the definition of that term depends on who's defining it. So i'm not exactly sure and i'm not going to pretend as if i know grin
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by TheKingIsHere: 12:27am On Mar 19, 2019
IAmSabrina:

Lol. Thanks

But just to clarify, i'm not saying that Cap has "superpowers". As far as i'm concerned, the definition of that term depends on who's defining it. So i'm not exactly sure and i'm not going to pretend as if i know grin

See scope.

I hail o

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Vic2Ree(m): 12:33am On Mar 19, 2019
TheKingIsHere:


Nope, kindly explain.

Also let us know if kingpin who has almost the same feats/stats with captain America, and beaten caps and spiderman has superpowers for him to do so.
The link is in IAmSabrina's post that i quoted. Basically it's when a writer dumbs down a character or writes him above his/her usual capacity to suit the story. It works hand in hand with Plot Induced Stupidity. I think that should explain Kingpin's ability to match Captain America in that scan you showed. Don't you think it would have been a boring comic to read if Cap just knocked him out once?

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by TheKingIsHere: 12:37am On Mar 19, 2019
Vic2Ree:

The link is in IAmSabrina's post that i quoted. Basically it's when a writer dumbs down a character or writes him above his/her usual capacity to suit the story. It works hand in hand with Plot Induced Stupidity. I think that should explain Kingpin's ability to match Captain America in that scan you showed. Don't you think it would have been a boring comic to read if Cap just knocked him out once?

Una don start. This has nothing to do with writer dumbing down a character.

On several occasions, kingpin has fought spiderman and captain America without shaking.

In spiderman into the spider verse, kingpin killed a spiderman with his fists. Was that dumbing down a character too?

How about the official marvel website where kingpin has almost the same stat/feats with captain America? Is that also dumbing down a character? Or does it men that kingpin has superpowers for him to have a very close stat with caps
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 12:46am On Mar 19, 2019
TheKingIsHere:


See scope.

I hail o
You are looking for who to catch and quote. Lol. My hands are clean, Ko le werk grin grin
[img]https://media1./images/764e13945fa3e2e1f0f0c4d8829f689b/tenor.gif[/img]

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Vic2Ree(m): 12:51am On Mar 19, 2019
TheKingIsHere:


Una don start. This has nothing to do with writer dumbing down a character.

On several occasions, kingpin has fought spiderman and captain America without shaking.

In spiderman into the spider verse, kingpin killed a spiderman with his fists. Was that dumbing down a character too?

How about the official marvel website where kingpin has almost the same stat/feats with captain America? Is that also dumbing down a character? Or does it men that kingpin has superpowers for him to have a very close stat with caps
Lemme ask you.....

If you were asked who'd win b/w Batman & Spiderman, will you consider stats or feats? (Mind you they're not the same thing).

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Vic2Ree(m): 12:51am On Mar 19, 2019
IAmSabrina:

You are looking for who to catch and quote. Lol. My hands are clean, Ko le werk grin grin
[img]https://media1./images/764e13945fa3e2e1f0f0c4d8829f689b/tenor.gif[/img]
U this girl, you're not serious grin

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by CosmicPhoenix: 3:20am On Mar 19, 2019
Kingpin fighting cap doesnt even mean he has powers,the guy is f*cking strong but he doesnt have the super speed,increased stamina,quick healing etc
PIS and CIS are the only reasons we even see some comic book fights,

Vic2Ree:

The link is in IAmSabrina's post that i quoted. Basically it's when a writer dumbs down a character or writes him above his/her usual capacity to suit the story. It works hand in hand with Plot Induced Stupidity. I think that should explain Kingpin's ability to match Captain America in that scan you showed. Don't you think it would have been a boring comic to read if Cap just knocked him out once?
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 6:51am On Mar 19, 2019
IAmSabrina:

Maybe Jack already defined the character's powers, but you have to remember that Captain America has had multiple comic book artists and writers since the 1940s. They've all had their different multiple interpretations of Cap's powerset. Many of his feats and accomplishments in the comics sometimes fall into the range of "super" human.

Are you familiar with PIS & CIS? If you are, you'll know that how a character's powers as described by the creator are not always how they'll be portrayed by the person writing the comic.

If you watch "Death Battles" and other versus matches on youtube, you'll know that feats and achievements are what matter more than the actual character description
No writer can give a superhero not created by them super powers unless an accident occurred that gave them that powers and non of which cap has experienced. The highest they can do is tweak the origin story a bit and not entirely.

Batman has been written to have powers e.g Batman red death, Batman God of knowledge. But they were on temporary basis or else world stories.

The creator said Captain America has no super powers then he has no super powers but if you can show me a character that all of a sudden was written to have powers and they were permanent without any form of accident or event occuring then maybe

Superhuman don't necessarily means super powers.

As for the death battle Batman won your "super powered Captain America" grin grin

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by phr0nesis(m): 7:54am On Mar 19, 2019
TheKingIsHere:

See scope.
I hail o
That girl na scope queen
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by phr0nesis(m): 8:13am On Mar 19, 2019
Vic2Ree:

The link is in IAmSabrina's post that i quoted. Basically it's when a writer dumbs down a character or writes him above his/her usual capacity to suit the story. It works hand in hand with Plot Induced Stupidity. I think that should explain Kingpin's ability to match Captain America in that scan you showed. Don't you think it would have been a boring comic to read if Cap just knocked him out once?
OK let's just ignore the writer.
Check every list categorizing superheroes without superpowers, you will always see Captain America there among characters like Black Widow, Batman, Iron Man, Dick Grayson

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by austine5n6(m): 8:24am On Mar 19, 2019
I guess its painful to admit but our dear old Captain America has no super powers.

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 8:30am On Mar 19, 2019
austine5n6:
lol...the things I see in this place ehh...anyway am enjoying this, in other news hulk616 is nowhere to be found grin
i was tired after carrying 760M dollars for captain marvel. you know something like this , DC fans are not used to it. grin grin

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 8:30am On Mar 19, 2019
austine5n6:
I guess its painful to admit but our dear old Captain America has no super powers.
Very painful indeed grin grin grin
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 8:32am On Mar 19, 2019
iuwe:

Very painful indeed grin grin grin

undecided undecided
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by TheKingIsHere: 8:34am On Mar 19, 2019
Vic2Ree:

Lemme ask you.....

If you were asked who'd win b/w Batman & Spiderman, will you consider stats or feats? (Mind you they're not the same thing).

If captain America has a stat and because of that you term him to have superpowers, why don't you say that kingpin who has similar stats have superpowers too?

As for a likely battle between Batman and spiderman, yes you will consider their stat/feat as it plays a major advantage in their battle.
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 8:37am On Mar 19, 2019
hulk616:
undecided undecided
You have got nothing to say? grin grin
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 8:50am On Mar 19, 2019
iuwe:

You have got nothing to say? grin grin
captain america
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 8:51am On Mar 19, 2019
TheKingIsHere:


If captain America has a stat and because of that you term him to have superpowers, why don't you say that kingpin who has similar stats have superpowers too?

As for a likely battle between Batman and spiderman, yes you will consider their stat/feat as it plays a major advantage in their battle.
Spider-Man will win easily
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 9:13am On Mar 19, 2019
hulk616:
captain america
Has no super powers grin grin grin

Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by nani667: 9:24am On Mar 19, 2019
°°°°

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by blingxx(m): 9:33am On Mar 19, 2019
Blackmanta, Mjbolt, hulk616 grin grin grin

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 10:18am On Mar 19, 2019
blingxx:
Blackmanta, Mjbolt, hulk616 grin grin grin
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 11:03am On Mar 19, 2019
iuwe:

No writer can give a superhero not created by them super powers unless an accident occurred that gave them that powers and non of which cap has experienced. The highest they can do is tweak the origin story a bit and not entirely.
No hero has been written to be given powers.
But they've been written to have their powers exaggerated or underrated. There's a huge difference. You didn't read what i said.
Electro ring a bell? Explain to me right now how someone like Daredevil beats him...

iuwe:

[s]Batman has been written to have powers e.g Batman red death, Batman God of knowledge. But they were on temporary basis or else world stories.[/s]

iuwe:

The creator said Captain America has no super powers then he has no super powers but if you can show me a character that all of a sudden was written to have powers and they were permanent without any form of accident or event occuring then maybe
Again, Being given powers =/= having your abilities overrated by the writer. Smh


iuwe:

Superhuman don't necessarily means super powers.
You think i don't know that? Lol


iuwe:

As for the death battle Batman won your "super powered Captain America" grin grin
Exactly! Thank you! But can you guess why?
It wasn't stats cause Batman is nowhere as strong as Captain America.
By the way you people keep thinking i'm making arguments for Cap having powers (which i'm not), but really you should try and understand my post before responding.

LMAO grin

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 12:58pm On Mar 19, 2019
IAmSabrina:

No hero has been written to be given powers.
But they've been written to have their powers exaggerated or underrated. There's a huge difference. You didn't read what i said.
Electro ring a bell? Explain to me right now how someone like Daredevil beats him...




Again, Being given powers =/= having your abilities overrated by the writer. Smh



You think i don't know that? Lol



Exactly! Thank you! But can you guess why?
It wasn't stats cause Batman is nowhere as strong as Captain America.
By the way you people keep thinking i'm making arguments for Cap having powers (which i'm not), but really you should try and understand my post before responding.

LMAO grin
A hero powers can be exaggerated because the plot required it to but the point you are not getting is that no matter how exaggerated it is it can't go beyond his original power sets.

Captain America can't be said to lift things the hulk can do neither can the hulk powers be underated to the point he can't lift things Captain America would.

Anytime Captain America abilities are overrated they have to explain why it happened because his basic skill sets has been put to question.

I didn't say you are making a point of cap having super powers and if I sounded like that then I am sorry.

Because brain triumph over brawl almost all the time and that is what bats never lacks.
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 1:26pm On Mar 19, 2019
iuwe:

A hero powers can be exaggerated because the plot required it to but the point you are not getting is that no matter how exaggerated it is it can't go beyond his original power sets.
Your statement is a little vague when you say "original power sets". I think the whole point of PIS, CIS and/or bad writing in general is to make a hero or villain look far better or more capable than he normally is. Batman is a street-leveller come rain, come shine....

However, please look up the stats of DC's Spectre
Then see how Batman was able to hurt him with a kick

iuwe:

I didn't say you are making a point of cap having super powers and if I sounded like that then I am sorry.
Apology accepted smiley

iuwe:

Because brain triumph over brawl almost all the time and that is what bats never lacks.
Ding! Ding! Ding!

Also don't forget more impressive feats and accomplishments...
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 2:38pm On Mar 19, 2019
IAmSabrina:

Your statement is a little vague when you say "original power sets". I think the whole point of PIS, CIS and/or bad writing in general is to make a hero or villain look far better or more capable than he normally is. Batman is a street-leveller come rain, come shine....

However, please look up the stats of DC's Spectre
Then see how Batman was able to hurt him with a kick


Apology accepted smiley


Ding! Ding! Ding!

Also don't forget more impressive feats and accomplishments...
I do think Batman is a little above that. Dude knows all forms of Martial arts plus judo and boxing. I would preferably call him a stealth assassin tier fighter.

When I said original power sets, "since he has been written as a human in peak conditions having greater endurance and enhanced strength and durability". That is to say when his skill sets are meant to be exaggerated, it still has to be believable (coughs) and can be explained by the laws of physics.
Yes some heroes can be written to be better and more capable than their original feats but that is for CIS and PIS to explain.
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 2:42pm On Mar 19, 2019
iuwe:

I do think Batman is a little above that. Dude knows all forms of Martial arts plus judo and boxing. I would preferably call him a stealth assassin tier fighter.
Enough to hurt the Spectre? cheesy

iuwe:

When I said original power sets, "since he has been written as a human in peak conditions having greater endurance and enhanced strength and durability". That is to say when his skill sets are meant to be exaggerated, it still has to be believable (coughs) and can be explained by the laws of physics.
Yes some heroes can be written to be better and more capable than their original feats but that is for CIS and PIS to explain.

I agree with the bolded but you and I know that this isn't always the case in comic books
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 2:51pm On Mar 19, 2019
IAmSabrina:

Enough to hurt the Spectre? cheesy
I didn't mean that in respect to his capability of hurting Spectre rather his Street fighter reference. But that is not to say it would be enough to hurt Spectre. Dude once got hit by an Omega beam and lived to tell the tale. Hurting Spectre would be PIS induced to my opinion though cause we know he doesn't have such strength to do so. wink

IAmSabrina:

I agree with the bolded but you and I know that this isn't always the case in comic books
That's comic world for you where you die and there is a Lazarus pit waiting to resurrect you. cheesy
Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by Nobody: 3:00pm On Mar 19, 2019
iuwe:

I didn't mean that in respect to his capability of hurting Spectre rather his Street fighter reference. But that is not to say it would be enough to hurt Spectre. Dude once got hit by an Omega beam and lived to tell the tale. Hurting Spectre would be PIS induced to my opinion though cause we know he doesn't have such strength to do so. wink


That's comic world for you where you die and there is a Lazarus pit waiting to resurrect you. cheesy
Lol. True grin

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