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Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by Kamxin(m): 12:13pm On Apr 24, 2019
PSTEMMA1960:


He said remember when God spoke to u people on mount Sinai he did not appear in any form (meaning no one saw him) He said that on no account should they make any image of any likeness of anything in heaven or on earth nor bow down to worship them...

Now why making them in the first place?

Lets pick the gospel of John chapter 1

verse 1
In he begining was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God

verse 14
And the word was made flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth.

You can see that that premise of Moses of having not seen God before has been rendered invalid.

And in Exodus 25:10
God ordered Moses to mold an ark full of images of things on earth and heaven.

What of molding of the bronze serpent, for people to look on and avoid snake bite.

So old things have past away and we are a new creatue in Christ. Lets stop picking half half verse that suit a half agenda.
Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by Nobody: 4:24pm On Apr 24, 2019
barapistis:



Good read and exposé

But for real

I think the catholic church fits into the picture of the great LovePeddler as described in Revelation

I haven't studied it

But I have had few visions describing this
Welcome back bro.

Where have you been?

I hope you're good.

Thanks a lot for your support.
Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by Nobody: 7:52am On Apr 27, 2019
The full (Modified) version of "The Woman Called Earth Is Homophobic" thread post is coming soon!

Don't miss it!
Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by Nobody: 9:28pm On May 09, 2019
The Woman Called Earth Is Homophobic (Full Version)*

https://www.nairaland.com/5143114/woman-called-earth-homophobic
Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by Ubenedictus(m): 6:30pm On May 19, 2019
jesusjnr2:
Yeah!

At least you know who the leaders of that church were, and they weren't going about teaching people anti-Christ doctrines in the name of God, and encouraging the worshipping of images as that of Mary, and endorsing gay sex, etc., but were preaching the gospel of the Kingdom of God as Christ had commanded them to do.

So of what use is a useless church if they if they were there in all of the centuries and yet represent demonic doctrines that emanated from the pit of hell!

Don't worry when the time is coming and now is when you would remember that I told you I belong to that true church, and not the one led by and anti-christ, gay sex endorser, which you obviously are really proud of, for this dead church full of imposters which were planted by the devil shall be overthrown by the real and true church.

My Master is Jesus just incase you don't know, who told the adulterous woman go and sin no more, and that's the same message I have for all the homosexuals in the world, and not that gay is an adjective as your master would say, and I suppose you too.
your ignorance is rather unfortunate.

I'm really sorry, but your own prejudice makes you unteachable.

I pray God finds you with his grace

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Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by Ubenedictus(m): 6:37pm On May 19, 2019
jesusjnr2:
There's no point in this, because you are an advocate yourself of gay sex just like your mentor, so keep following in his footsteps, because if it's now normal to you for someone to be attracted to be sleeping with the same sex(gay), just like someone can be attracted to killing their neighbors(murderer), committing adultery(adulterer), defiling little and raping little children (paedophiles), raping fellow humans(rapists), etc. and you find nothing wrong with it, then there's no point for me to respond to you.

But so you know I would fight with every thing in my life any idea that it's now normal to be gay, and not a abomination as it is in the sight of God, for the Earth needs me to stand up to such perversion and destruction of the fundamentals of human existence, by satanic forces.
you have bore false witness and lied against me.

May God forgive you.

That tells me you are not ready for any type of discussion. You just want to perpetuate your opinions among your pals of like mind
Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by Ubenedictus(m): 6:42pm On May 19, 2019
PSTEMMA1960:
so honor and worship are 2 different things? God specifically told Solomon how the temple should be built.....and if was the images of cherubims and seraphims that were in the temple....and no one was bowing down before them...

As for knowing the meaning of "pope" I do not know and I ha haven't seen it in the bible b4....so u can do me a favor by explaining to me what it is...
pope simply means daddy, the same way you guys call your G. O. It is based upon scriptures where the apostle says "I Fathered you in the Lord ".

Honor and worship of God are two different things, I honor my parents, I worship God, can you note the difference?

Actually people were prostrating in front of those images in the Temple just as they bowed down before the temple itself.
Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by Ubenedictus(m): 6:47pm On May 19, 2019
payosehtor:
for the benefit of the doubt I should direct you to the catechismal book/page but it's unfortunate I do not keep those kind of materials with me cuz, I 've grown passed the level of RECITALS (where in one is thought to recite prayers writen by someone else as if God is concerned with the charisma and not the heart intent)
sorry you are ignorant, the psalms Jesus Christ himself prayed are recited prayers, the our father and the grace you pray in your church are all recited. There is nothing wrong with such prayers so far you mean what you say.


There is no Catholic document that supports the nonsense you wrote
Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by Nobody: 7:10pm On May 19, 2019
Ubenedictus:
your ignorance is rather unfortunate.

I'm really sorry, but your own prejudice makes you unteachable.

I pray God finds you with his grace
God forbid!!!

For the god behind this gay agenda is not my God but Satan who obviously is your god and that of the catholic pope.

So be sorry for yourself, for after you've helped him advance his demonic homosexual agenda, he'd take you into his everlasting habitations.

It's better to be ignorant, than to have your kind of knowledge which is opposed to the truth, so keep your teaching of satanic lies to yourself.

#prejudicedagainstthetruth
Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by Nobody: 7:20pm On May 19, 2019
Ubenedictus:
you have bore false witness and lied against me.

May God forgive you.

That tells me you are not ready for any type of discussion. You just want to perpetuate your opinions among your pals of like mind
Lol!

You case is really a serious one, for you don't even know that you and your pope are the ones that need forgiveness for advancing the demonic homosexual agenda.

So what are you doing mentioning me, for you should already know that there's nothing to discuss with someone who works for Satan, and helps him to spread his lies about homosexuality upon the earth.

Of course i accept that i'm like minds with Christ who would tell the homosexuals that "gay" is not just an adjective but an abominable sin, hence that they should GO AND SIN NO MORE!
Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by Ubenedictus(m): 10:54am On May 24, 2019
jesusjnr2:
That's exactly my point.

Your quote of your pope was exactly my quote of the pope, so I asked what's the point of quoting him again, if It wasn't to change any thing in my quote of your pope?

So whether he mentioned gay sex explicitly is besides the point here, because only the ignorant would not know that it was exactly what he did in the process.
only the biased will assume someone said what he didn't say
Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by Nobody: 12:52pm On May 24, 2019
Ubenedictus:
only the biased will assume someone said what he didn't say
Only an unchristlike pope would not say what Jesus said, which is "go and sin no more"!

At least you've admitted that I didn't misquote him, so your assumption is subjective, since it's not your own quote, it's not up to you to decide which assumption is biased or not.

I would start calling you a ardent gay supporter from now on.
Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by EdifiedHebrew: 5:13pm On May 24, 2019
vincentus16:

Trash!!!
Dont say what u dont know. We don't worship images. If u wanna know y we use image u can google it. It will give u every fact u need.
Catholic is the oldest institution. Pipo r opening churches here and there. So if u pipo for instance succeed in pulling Catholic down by painting them black (wic can't work shaa). Then tell me that church that is acknowledged or instituted by Jesus. Is it winners or redeemers or assemblies, deeper life and the rest. Pls point out the one that is the true church then so that we will all know.
I remembered what Jesus said to peter before he ascended. He instructed them to be careful that many will come to claim to com in my name. And that's exactly what's happening. Pentecostals opening churches here and there.
Take it or leave it, peter is the first pope. Go and google the list of popes the catholic church hav had till pope Francis. It will bring it out for u.
I jst dey laugh all this churches that existed yesterday that is opening mouth. I know that u pipo need members that's it.
I was a Catholic before when i don't search the scriptures but Yahawah bahasham Yahawashi Hamasciach brought me out from that pity of hell satanic doctrine.

You're been decieved, the Catholics worship idols including all christains. The priests & the pastors tricks them because they love deceits by the cunning & craftiness of their Popes, Bishops,Priests, Pastors & General Overseers. they lied to the congregations.
Both Catholic, Muslims, Pentecostals all will be destroyed because they are the enemies of the most high Yahawah. PSALMS 33:8 Let all the earth fear the LORD: let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him.

9 For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast.

10 The LORD bringeth the counsel of the heathen to nought: he maketh the devices of the people of none effect.

11 The counsel of the LORD standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart to all generations.


Peter was never a Catholic. The hands of All christains Popes, Bishops, Priests, Pastors & General Overseers are full of blood. the have devoured souls, they smell blood.

Christainity is one of the congregations of the dead PROVERBS 21: 15 It is joy to the just to do judgment: but destruction shall be to the workers of iniquity.

16 The man that wandereth out of the way of understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead.
28 A false witness shall perish: but the man that heareth speaketh constantly.
Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by EdifiedHebrew: 5:27pm On May 24, 2019
vincentus16:
see. The pope is nt supporting the act. He's jst encouraging others not to segregate them. And not condemn them.
U Pentecost that's talking what abt adventist church that support abortion with some flimsy excuse. Y don't u guys criticize the church. Y must it be catholic?. Who knows what the doctrine of ur church looks like.

Catholic is the father of all abonimations on the earth.
Catholic is one of the worst enemies of the most high.

DANIEL 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

REVELATION 13: 3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.

10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by EdifiedHebrew: 5:37pm On May 24, 2019
Ubenedictus:
pope simply means daddy, the same way you guys call your G. O. It is based upon scriptures where the apostle says "I Fathered you in the Lord ".

Honor and worship of God are two different things, I honor my parents, I worship God, can you note the difference?

Actually people were prostrating in front of those images in the Temple just as they bowed down before the temple itself.

THOSE IMAGES ARE THE IMAGES OF THE gods OF THE HEATHEN
the images of christains jesus christ are the images of cesare borgia, son of pope alexander.
he is a homosexual
he is a murderer
he impregnate his sister.
while the image of mary is the image of semiramis.
Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by Ubenedictus(m): 7:02pm On May 25, 2019
EdifiedHebrew:
I was a Catholic before when i don't search the scriptures but Yahawah bahasham Yahawashi Hamasciach brought me out from that pity of hell satanic doctrine.

You're been decieved, the Catholics worship idols including all christains. The priests & the pastors tricks them because they love deceits by the cunning & craftiness of their Popes, Bishops,Priests, Pastors & General Overseers. they lied to the congregations.
Both Catholic, Muslims, Pentecostals all will be destroyed because they are the enemies of the most high Yahawah. PSALMS 33:8 Let all the earth fear the LORD: let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him.

9 For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast.

10 The LORD bringeth the counsel of the heathen to nought: he maketh the devices of the people of none effect.

11 The counsel of the LORD standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart to all generations.


Peter was never a Catholic. The hands of All christains Popes, Bishops, Priests, Pastors & General Overseers are full of blood. the have devoured souls, they smell blood.

Christainity is one of the congregations of the dead PROVERBS 21: 15 It is joy to the just to do judgment: but destruction shall be to the workers of iniquity.

16 The man that wandereth out of the way of understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead.
28 A false witness shall perish: but the man that heareth speaketh constantly.
lol

So you believe all these stuff you wrote?
Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by Ubenedictus(m): 9:08pm On May 25, 2019
EdifiedHebrew:


Catholic is the father of all abonimations on the earth.
Catholic is one of the worst enemies of the most high.

DANIEL 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

REVELATION 13: 3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.

10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
and in your mind those passages refer to the Catholic Church?
Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by Ubenedictus(m): 11:37pm On May 25, 2019
jesusjnr:
Only an unchristlike pope would not say what Jesus said, which is "go and sin no more"!

At least you've admitted that I didn't misquote him, so your assumption is subjective, since it's not your own quote, it's not up to you to decide which assumption is biased or not.

I would start calling you a ardent gay supporter from now on.
who told you they were sinning? All we know is that someone's brother had same sex attraction, who told you he was having gay sex or sinning?

Nobody said that, it is an assumption you made up in your head.


Why will I say go and sin no more just because someone says his brother is gay and was discriminated against?

Does that sound sane to you?

I can also start calling you a homophobic. Gay are human beings and I am happy to support them against unjust discrimination
Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by Ubenedictus(m): 11:50pm On May 25, 2019
EdifiedHebrew:


THOSE IMAGES ARE THE IMAGES OF THE gods OF THE HEATHEN
the images of christains jesus christ are the images of cesare borgia, son of pope alexander.
he is a homosexual
he is a murderer
he impregnate his sister.
while the image of mary is the image of semiramis.
none of the images in the catholic church is Cesar Borgia, there were already images of Jesus Christ before Borgia was born and after his death they still exist.


The images Of Mary has nothing to do with Semiramis, it is the image found in the catacombs of the persecuted early church that is still adapted for every culture and in use.

It has nothing to do with pagans
Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by Nobody: 8:59am On May 27, 2019
Ubenedictus:
who told you they were sinning? All we know is that someone's brother had same sex attraction, who told you he was having gay sex or sinning?

Nobody said that, it is an assumption you made up in your head.


Why will I say go and sin no more just because someone says his brother is gay and was discriminated against?

Does that sound sane to you?

I can also start calling you a homophobic. Gay are human beings and I am happy to support them against unjust discrimination
So it seems you agree that gay sex is an abomination, but being gay and being sexually attracted to same sex which culminates in gay sex which is an abominable sin, is not a sin but a sin which I made it up in my own head.

So I would like you to please reconcile that saying of yours with this saying of Jesus here concerning the sin of adultery:

Matthew 5:27-28 (KJV)

Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.


So tell me if being gay and sexually attracted to someone of the same sex, is not the same thing as committing the abominable sin of gay sex in one's heart, that should warrant telling them "go and sin no more"?

And you said that a homophobic cannot be righteous

If so, what defines a homophobic for you?

And Is it possible for someone who stones those who practice homosexuality to death as it was commanded in the laws of Moses not to be homophobic?

For instance, if Moses or Joshua had obeyed the commandment of God and had kept the commandment of God in the respect of those who have gay sex, and hence stoned them to death, is it possible for them not to be homophobic?

If no, then does being homophobic make them not to be righteous?
Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by EdifiedHebrew: 7:13pm On Sep 16, 2019
Ubenedictus:
none of the images in the catholic church is Cesar Borgia, there were already images of Jesus Christ before Borgia was born and after his death they still exist.


The images Of Mary has nothing to do with Semiramis, it is the image found in the catacombs of the persecuted early church that is still adapted for every culture and in use.

It has nothing to do with pagans
Is Yahawashi Hamasciach whom you called Jesus christ a Black man or whiteman?
Is mary a black woman or a white woman?
what colour of the Images of HAMASCIACH did find?
Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by EdifiedHebrew: 7:17pm On Sep 16, 2019
Ubenedictus:
pope simply means daddy, the same way you guys call your G. O. It is based upon scriptures where the apostle says "I Fathered you in the Lord ".

Honor and worship of God are two different things, I honor my parents, I worship God, can you note the difference?

Actually people were prostrating in front of those images in the Temple just as they bowed down before the temple itself.
Matthew 23: 9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.

12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by jesusjnr2020(m): 2:06pm On Oct 22, 2020
Ubenedictus:
in your post you said the Pope endorsed gay sex, in my post I showed the Pope didn't mention sex at all, talkless of gay sex
What do you have to say now, eh?

Are you still going to blindly defend your Pope endorsed gay sex?
Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by Ubenedictus(m): 2:39pm On Jan 12, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
What do you have to say now, eh?

Are you still going to blindly defend your Pope endorsed gay sex?
bobo, be informed before you post.

the pope did not endorse gay sex
Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by Ubenedictus(m): 2:41pm On Jan 12, 2021
EdifiedHebrew:
Matthew 23: 9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.

12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.

For even if you had ten thousand others to teach you about Christ, you have only one spiritual father. For I became your father in Christ Jesus when I preached the Good News to you.
1 cor 4:15
Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by Ubenedictus(m): 2:49pm On Jan 12, 2021
So it seems you agree that gay sex is an abomination, but being gay and being sexually attracted to same sex which culminates in gay sex which is an abominable sin, is not a sin but a sin which I made it up in my own head.

So I would like you to please reconcile that saying of yours with this saying of Jesus here concerning the sin of adultery:

Matthew 5:27-28 (KJV)

Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.


So tell me if being gay and sexually attracted to someone of the same sex, is not the same thing as committing the abominable sin of gay sex in one's heart, that should warrant telling them "go and sin no more"?

And you said that a homophobic cannot be righteous

If so, what defines a homophobic for you?

And Is it possible for someone who stones those who practice homosexuality to death as it was commanded in the laws of Moses not to be homophobic?

For instance, if Moses or Joshua had obeyed the commandment of God and had kept the commandment of God in the respect of those who have gay sex, and hence stoned them to death, is it possible for them not to be homophobic?

If no, then does being homophobic make them not to be righteous?

lust is different from sexual orientation, i find women attractive, i am a heterosexual male, those doesn't mean i lust after every woman i see.
i gay man can find a fellow man attractive, it is a disorder but it is not a sin unless he lust after that man.

so there are 3 levels.
sexual orientation
lust
sex.
whether you are straight or gay, at the level of sexual orientation there is no sin there. if u allow yourself to be moved into lust then there is sin. sodomy and fornication is also sin.

but the very fact that a person is oriented gay does not in and of itself make that person a sinner.
do you understand?


Moses and Joshua also stoned people caught in adultery. if a christian stones an adulterer to death today will you call that person righteous?

i know i wont, so too i will not call a homophobe a righteous person simply because moses dis that.

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Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by Ubenedictus(m): 2:52pm On Jan 12, 2021
EdifiedHebrew:
Is Yahawashi Hamasciach whom you called Jesus christ a Black man or whiteman?
Is mary a black woman or a white woman?
what colour of the Images of HAMASCIACH did find?
you are free to take a look and decide for yourself


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Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by jesusjnr2020(m): 5:08pm On Jan 12, 2021
Ubenedictus:

bobo, be informed before you post.

the pope did not endorse gay sex
Lol!

If you can't still see the obvious truth about your Pope up til now, the chances are that you never will, but thank God not all Catholics are blindly following the Pope as you are.

https://nypost.com/2020/10/23/catholic-leaders-condemn-popes-endorsement-of-same-sex-unions/

God bless.

Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by Ubenedictus(m): 5:33pm On Jan 12, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
Lol!

If you can't still see the obvious truth about your Pope up til now, the chances are that you never will, but thank God not all Catholics are blindly following the Pope as you are.

https://nypost.com/2020/10/23/catholic-leaders-condemn-popes-endorsement-of-same-sex-unions/

God bless.
even in that which you wrote i still can t see anything there about gay sex


maybe these will help you

https://www.ncronline.org/news/people/popes-civil-union-comments-appear-be-taken-out-context

this is the full quote from the interview. Atleast read well before you spread false information simply because it suits your ageda.



“I was asked a question on a flight - after it made me mad, made me mad for how one news outlet transmitted it - about the familial integration of people with homosexual orientation, and I said, homosexual people have a right to be in the family, people with homosexual orientation have a right to be in the family and parents have the right to recognize that son as homosexual, that daughter as homosexual. Nobody should be thrown out of the family, or be made miserable because of it.”

“Another thing is, I said when you see some signs in the children and from there send them to - I should have said a ‘professional,’ what came out was ‘psychiatrist.’ I meant to say a professional because sometimes there are signs in adolescence or pre-adolescence that they don’t know if they are homosexually oriented or if it is that the thymus gland didn’t atrophy in time. Who knows, a thousand things, no? So, a professional. The title of the daily paper: ‘The Pope sends homosexuals to the psychiatrist.’ It’s not true!”

“They asked me the same question another time and I repeated it, ‘They are children of God, they have a right to a family, and such.’ Another thing is - and I explained I was wrong with that word, but I meant to say this: When you notice something strange - ‘Ah, it’s strange.’ - No, it’s not strange. Something that is outside of the usual. That is, not to take a little word to annul the context. There, what I said is that they ‘have a right to a family.’ And that doesn’t mean to approve of homosexual acts, not at all.”




is that an endorsement of gay sex?
Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by jesusjnr2020(m): 5:40pm On Jan 12, 2021
Ubenedictus:
even in that which you wrote i still can t see anything there about gay sex
Okay you should wait for him to specifically mention gay sex first, since you're the only one that doesn't know it's what takes place in the same sex-unions that your Pope endorsed.
Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by Ubenedictus(m): 5:59pm On Jan 12, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
Okay you should wait for him to specifically mention gay sex first, since you're the only one that doesn't know it's what takes place in the same sex-unions that your Pope endorsed.

this is the full quote from pope francis

“Another thing is, I said when you see some signs in the children and from there send them to - I should have said a ‘professional,’ what came out was ‘psychiatrist.’ I meant to say a professional because sometimes there are signs in adolescence or pre-adolescence that they don’t know if they are homosexually oriented or if it is that the thymus gland didn’t atrophy in time. Who knows, a thousand things, no? So, a professional. The title of the daily paper: ‘The Pope sends homosexuals to the psychiatrist.’ It’s not true!”

“They asked me the same question another time and I repeated it, ‘They are children of God, they have a right to a family, and such.’ Another thing is - and I explained I was wrong with that word, but I meant to say this: When you notice something strange - ‘Ah, it’s strange.’ - No, it’s not strange. Something that is outside of the usual. That is, not to take a little word to annul the context. There, what I said is that they ‘have a right to a family.’ And that doesn’t mean to approve of homosexual acts, not at all.”


https://www.dw.com/en/vatican-clarifies-popes-comments-on-homosexual-unions/a-55478883

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/vatican-breaks-silence-explains-popes-civil-union-comments-73970357

https://www.aciafrica.org/news/2204/pope-francis-homosexuality-comments-heavily-edited-in-newly-released-documentary


if you take d stress of reading through things you won't be jumping after first reactions to base your agenda
Re: Proof That Catholic Popes Are Not Chosen By God: Endorsement Of Gay Sex. by Ubenedictus(m): 6:02pm On Jan 12, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
Okay you should wait for him to specifically mention gay sex first, since you're the only one that doesn't know it's what takes place in the same sex-unions that your Pope endorsed.

a civil union is not a marriage and does not necessarily involve sex at least in the pastoral experience on Jorge Mario Belgogio now Pope Francis.


you can read up.


But on Wednesday Archbishop Victor Manuel Fernandez, a theologian who has long been close to the pope, suggested that the pope’s phrase is substantially equivalent to the phrase “civil union.”

The archbishop posted on Facebook that before he became the pope, then Cardinal-Bergoglio “always recognized that, without calling it ‘marriage,’ in fact there are very close unions between people of the same sex, which do not in themselves imply sexual relations, but a very intense and stable alliance. They know each other thoroughly, they share the same roof for many years, they take care of each other, they sacrifice for each other. Then it may happen that they prefer that in an extreme case or illness they do not consult their relatives, but that person who knows their intentions in depth. And for the same reason they prefer that it be that person who inherits all their assets, etc. This can be contemplated in the law and is called ‘civil union’ [unión civil] or ‘law of civil coexistence’ [ley de convivencia civil], not marriage.”


https://www.aciafrica.org/news/2204/pope-francis-homosexuality-comments-heavily-edited-in-newly-released-documentary

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